CB Artie Burns is due an $800,000 roster bonus on Sunday and the Steelers appear ready to pay it

[polamalubeast]

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[Edman]

Insert "That's 800,000 dollars too much lol" comment here.

You can buy bread for 79 cents and burn it in a toaster and it will be just as effective as Artie Burns.

[steelreserve]

Hey I got an idea, why not take $800,000 and throw it in the garbage can, that might work too.

[polamalubeast]

Unless the Steelers trade him,Burns will be a steelers in 2019.

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[ALLD]

They should arrest Burns for stealing a paycheck.

[DesertSteel]

Burns - the draft pick that made us forget about Jarvis Jones!

[polamalubeast]

Burns - the draft pick that made us forget about Jarvis Jones!


:rofl2:

[polamalubeast]

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[steelreserve]

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This is finally gonna be his year, guys!

I heard Dupree is just a hair away from having a breakout season too!

Burns-Dupree All-Pro in 2019, can you feel it?

[Craic]

This is finally gonna be his year, guys!

I heard Dupree is just a hair away from having a breakout season too!

Burns-Dupree All-Pro in 2019, can you feel it?

I am going to laugh my ass off in February if those two are on the Pro-bowl team for legitimate reasons (not everyone else dodging the game).

[polamalubeast]

This is finally gonna be his year, guys!

I heard Dupree is just a hair away from having a breakout season too!

Burns-Dupree All-Pro in 2019, can you feel it?

Butler think that Dupree will be the key for the steelers defense!

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[polamalubeast]

– People will rag on Artie Burns for giving up the long reception in 7v7 but I thought he had another nice day.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/07/2019-steelers-training-camp-diary-day-two/

[stillers4me]

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[polamalubeast]

At least Artie Burns still has a Job...Not the case for another first round pick in 2016....

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[Born2Steel]

I sincerely hope Burns comes back and proves all of us wrong. This may be the worst waste of $800,000 since the 'Bertha' tunnell.

[86WARD]

PAY DAY!!!

DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS Y’ALL!

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[polamalubeast]

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[polamalubeast]

LOL

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[Mojouw]

Who Cares? This has been the biggest over-blown issue of the off-season. Play it out in your head:

1. Team cuts Burns to not pay the $800K roster bonus.
2. Team now needs another sub 27 year old athletic CB to round out the group for the rest of training camp.
3. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/cornerback/type-veteran/ -- that's the veteran CB salary chart. Take a look at what $800K or less gets you. This is the list of currently available guys that have played in the NFL before: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/cornerback/available/.
4. For $800K or less, Artie Burns is the most physically gifted athlete you are going to sign. In theory he knows the defense. In theory he could learn some technique and be a better depth option than anyone else currently available. I get that is not acceptable return for a 1st round pick, but consider the alternatives.
5. $800K is chump change for an NFL team. O. Khan could find $800K in cap space in less than 15 minutes.

Long story short, this is not a big deal. It is not like there are amazing CBs just hanging out on the open market that the team is passing on to keep Artie Burns around. You want an actual thing to worry over? How about this:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/jordan-dangerfield-12673/

Cutting that unplayable waste of space is halfway to what Tre Boston made last year. Now, I have no idea of Boston would consider signing here (rumored that his old GM is gonna get him a job with NYG) and further if the team wants to open up competition with Davis...but Dangerfield is just as much (if not more) of waste of roster spot than Burns. Yet no one complains...

[hawaiiansteeler]

Dangerfield is just as much (if not more) of waste of roster spot than Burns. Yet no one complains...

Dangerfield is currently running 3rd string at FS behind Sean Davis and Kameron Kelly.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/07/2019-steelers-training-camp-depth-chart/

[polamalubeast]

Dangerfield is currently running 3rd string at FS behind Sean Davis and Kameron Kelly.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/07/2019-steelers-training-camp-depth-chart/

I don't know who is Kameron Kelly.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I don't know who is Kameron Kelly.

Re-visiting the 2018 NFL Draft, and newly acquired Steelers CB Kameron Kelly

By Pittsblitz56 May 12, 2019

The Pittsburgh Steelers signed CB Kameron Kelly from the AAF, and it is only appropriate we go back and take a look at some of his strengths and weaknesses.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/12/18563184/re-visiting-the-2018-nfl-draft-and-newly-acquired-steelers-cb-kameron-kelly-aaf-profile-news

[polamalubeast]

Re-visiting the 2018 NFL Draft, and newly acquired Steelers CB Kameron Kelly

By Pittsblitz56 May 12, 2019

The Pittsburgh Steelers signed CB Kameron Kelly from the AAF, and it is only appropriate we go back and take a look at some of his strengths and weaknesses.

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/5/12/18563184/re-visiting-the-2018-nfl-draft-and-newly-acquired-steelers-cb-kameron-kelly-aaf-profile-news

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[Mojouw]

Dangerfield is currently running 3rd string at FS behind Sean Davis and Kameron Kelly.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/07/2019-steelers-training-camp-depth-chart/

Good. Dangerfield has repeatedly proven to be totally unplayable in either base defense or sub packages. He simply isn't a good enough athlete.

He is the Matakevich of the DBs just without STs splash plays.

[polamalubeast]

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[polamalubeast]

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Good play by Artie Burns...Kelly with the interception....Not a good play by Ben too!

[hawaiiansteeler]

Good play by Artie Burns..

this is going to be Artie's breakout year...

[polamalubeast]

Never a good thing when a player need to return to his rookie form...

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[steelreserve]

Good. Dangerfield has repeatedly proven to be totally unplayable in either base defense or sub packages. He simply isn't a good enough athlete.

He is the Matakevich of the DBs just without STs splash plays.

I would agree with this 100%. If you cannot have a guy on the field because he is too much of a liability on any regular defensive play, then what the hell is he doing on the roster.

As for Burns, you are right that we are not going to sign anyone who is clearly better for $800K. I think we are all just tired of seeing these players hang around for one more chance after they've already had one more chance, and it seems pretty clear-cut that we have a player who just does not have that special something that makes a good NFL player. Continuing to chase after "potential" long after that ship has sailed. We waste too much time on that type of bullshit, and I'd rather see us cut our losses sooner and cycle through a few low-risk, high-reward prospects with those roster spots. Oh well, at least we're not paying this one $10 million to suck this year.

[vasteeler]

Never a good thing when a player need to return to his rookie form...

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Haha, no shit!

[polamalubeast]

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[teegre]

I don't know who is Kameron Kelly.

1. He’s an Aztec.

2. He was one of the best players in the short-lived AAF.

3. He was a former QB who switched to CB. He can basically play ANY position in the secondary. He’s like a defensive Slash.

[Steeldude]

This is finally gonna be his year, guys!

I heard Dupree is just a hair away from having a breakout season too!

Burns-Dupree All-Pro in 2019, can you feel it?

What's sad is there are people on this forum who actually believe that.

[polamalubeast]

What's sad is there are people on this forum who actually believe that.

Sorry, but one on this forum believes that.

[Steeldude]

Sorry, but one on this forum believes that.

It must be another website with the exact same URL as this one.

[polamalubeast]

Good. Dangerfield has repeatedly proven to be totally unplayable in either base defense or sub packages. He simply isn't a good enough athlete.

He is the Matakevich of the DBs just without STs splash plays.

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[polamalubeast]

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[polamalubeast]

– Artie Burns having an Artie Burns camp. Which is to say a good one. Justin Layne with a better day today, too.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/2019-steelers-training-camp-diary-day-six/

[polamalubeast]

• Another player who was perceived to have an uphill fight on his hands to win a roster spot is Artie Burns. Today he is unquestionably one of the 53 best players on campus, and it isn’t that difficult to make the case that he’s the third-best cornerback in a Steelers helmet.


• One example was his performance in the Aug. 1 practice. When Burns came to the NFL he was labeled as a guy not real interested in run support, but he has improved significantly in that aspect of cornerback play. During a two-play sequence of an 11-on-11 period that contained live tackling, Burns came off a block to stone Benny Snell for no gain on a sweep to his side, and then he also weaved through the trash to dump Diontae Johnson for no gain on a quick sideline screen.

• Burns hasn’t been perfect in coverage, but he has won more than he has lost, and later in the same practice he cleanly defended a pass at the goal line for JuJu Smith-Schuster with an official standing by and watching closely.

https://www.steelers.com/news/labriola-on-calm-boz-artie-player-s-coach

[polamalubeast]

Artie Burns has his swagger back. That was something he was missing last season, but he is his old feisty self now. That is a great thing to see.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/farabaugh-training-camp-observations-day-six/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Mojouw]

If he plays well in the preseason Burns is gonna make the team. I think. If they keep 6 CBS:

Haden/Nelson/Hilton/Sutton/Burns/Lane with Brian Allen either moving to safety or being the odd-man out.

[86WARD]

If he plays well in the preseason Burns is gonna make the team. I think. If they keep 6 CBS:

Haden/Nelson/Hilton/Sutton/Burns/Lane with Brian Allen either moving to safety or being the odd-man out.

Do you think the Steelers (with their history) would outright cut him?

[Mojouw]

Do you think the Steelers (with their history) would outright cut him?
Yes.

[polamalubeast]

Yes.

Are you talking of Burns or Allen?

I would be surprised if the Steelers cut Burns, especially if he continues his good training camp ... A trade might be possible, but cut, I would be surprised, at least 5-6 CB of the steelers are much better than Burns....The steelers can not cut a player that you just give a bonus signing of 800,000 even if he has a good camp.

[Mojouw]

Are you talking of Burns or Allen?

I would be surprised if the Steelers cut Burns, especially if he continues his good training camp ... A trade might be possible, but cut, I would be surprised, at least 5-6 CB of the steelers are much better than Burns....The steelers can not cut a player that you just give a bonus signing of 800,000 even if he has a good camp.

Either. Both. They will take the best 5-6 CBs they can find.

Everyone always talks like the Steelers just carry "bad" first round picks around on the roster for years and years. But when has that actually happened?

Take Jarvis Jones. They carried him around because there was literally not a better OLB in camp. Then as soon as there was, they got rid of him.

[polamalubeast]

Either. Both. They will take the best 5-6 CBs they can find.

Everyone always talks like the Steelers just carry "bad" first round picks around on the roster for years and years. But when has that actually happened?

Take Jarvis Jones. They carried him around because there was literally not a better OLB in camp. Then as soon as there was, they got rid of him.

No for Jarvis Jones

The reason why Jones left after the 2016 season was because his contract was over.He did not play another snap in the NFL after that.

The only reason why Jones lost his job in the mid-season as starter in 2016 was because the team was at 4-5 at this time .... No reason to have seen Jarvis Jones with so many snaps after having only 6 sacks in 4 years! ... If the steelers would have been 6-3 and in good position in the standing, Jones would have kept his job, but at 4-5 and in big trouble in the standing, Tomlin had no choice.

Same thing the year before with Blake vs. Boykin ... Blake started only to be on the bench more often after being 6-5 (and that the steelers gave up 5 TD pass to Russell Wilson in Seattle) and the steelers needed to win every game to keep control of our destiny for a playoffs spot for the rest of the season.

At least Tomlin was less patient with Burns last year .... After his awful coverage at the end of the half against the Bengals, it was over for Burns.

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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Take Jarvis Jones. They carried him around because there was literally not a better OLB in camp. Then as soon as there was, they got rid of him.

I think Jones and Burns situations were very similar. Both drafted to be eventual starters, but have some veterans around to hopefully bridge the gap until they are ready. Guys like Worilds, Harrison, Moats were OLB with Jones around, but they could see he wasn't panning out, so doubled down on Dupree and Chickillo in the same draft.

With Burns, there wasn't really any CB depth around, so Burns got pressed into action, but since he doesn't look to pan out, the FA signings of guys like Nelson, Haden were necessary. I don't think Burns gets cut, I think he makes it, with the hope that if Austin is coaching him up, that they maybe get him a 1 year deal next season and possibility to become a dime option.

[teegre]

What's sad is there are people on this forum who actually believe that.

Just one (me).

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I don't think Burns gets cut, I think he makes it, with the hope that if Austin is coaching him up, that they maybe get him a 1 year deal next season and possibility to become a dime option.

Burns has regained his swagger... circa Ike Taylor 2007.

Mind you, I don’t think Burns will ever become as good as the Swaggin’U alum, but I do see Burns once again being as god as he was as a rookie (which was, as you said, on par with that of a good nickel or dime back).

[Butch]

Just one (me).

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Burns has regained his swagger... circa Ike Taylor 2007.

Mind you, I don’t think Burns will ever become as good as the Swaggin’U alum, but I do see Burns once again being as god as he was as a rookie (which was, as you said, on par with that of a good nickel or dime back).

I know how you feel. I seem to be alone in the beliefe that we go underfeated this year.
1. JuJu - chip on shoulder to prove he can be legit #1
2. Ben - Bigger chip to prove his critics he can lead this team without Bell and Brown on the team (yes even though we all know Bell left us last year).
3. Cheats game 1 they have no idea what is about to be unleashed upon them in their own back yard!!!
Here we go Steelers!!!

[86WARD]

Are you talking of Burns or Allen?

I would be surprised if the Steelers cut Burns, especially if he continues his good training camp ... A trade might be possible, but cut, I would be surprised, at least 5-6 CB of the steelers are much better than Burns....The steelers can not cut a player that you just give a bonus signing of 800,000 even if he has a good camp.

Burns.

[86WARD]

Either. Both. They will take the best 5-6 CBs they can find.

Everyone always talks like the Steelers just carry "bad" first round picks around on the roster for years and years. But when has that actually happened?

Take Jarvis Jones. They carried him around because there was literally not a better OLB in camp. Then as soon as there was, they got rid of him.

I think these may be the first round players that give them that rap:

Ziggy Hood - contract expired.
Jarvis Jones - released before 5th year option.
Bud Dupree - signed for 5th year option.

First round players that were clearly not first round talent that spent “too much time” on the roster? I’m just guessing here...

I would be surprised if they outright cut him after paying him $800k. I feel like that would be out of their comfort zone to just “throw” 800k away...they seem to be smarter about that kind of transaction if you will.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I do see Burns once again being as god as he was as a rookie (which was, as you said, on par with that of a good nickel or dime back).

I hope that Burns is better than he was as a rookie. Primarily in that he didn't stay true to his responsibilities and his technique should improve after 3years. I think a real good DB coach like Austin can help him to understand how to play smart and consistent enough to get on the field.

Plus, Burns has to be a bit more humble as he is no longer that #1 pick with promise, but a guy that is fighting for the #6 CB spot.

[polamalubeast]

Burns was fine in the first 2 season(like the post 38 in this thread) but last year it was a disaster.

[Mojouw]

I think these may be the first round players that give them that rap:

Ziggy Hood - contract expired.
Jarvis Jones - released before 5th year option.
Bud Dupree - signed for 5th year option.

First round players that were clearly not first round talent that spent “too much time” on the roster? I’m just guessing here...

I would be surprised if they outright cut him after paying him $800k. I feel like that would be out of their comfort zone to just “throw” 800k away...they seem to be smarter about that kind of transaction if you will.

I know they players that people are thinking of but kinda separate taking the best 53 guys out of camp and playing time into two different categories. I think that playing time can be be questioned, but I can not remember the team cutting a better player to hold onto a draft pick. Not saying it didn’t happen, just do not remember. Folks kinda talk about it like there were all these better OLBs and DBs that JOnes and Burns have kept off the roster.

[86WARD]

I know they players that people are thinking of but kinda separate taking the best 53 guys out of camp and playing time into two different categories. I think that playing time can be be questioned, but I can not remember the team cutting a better player to hold onto a draft pick. Not saying it didn’t happen, just do not remember. Folks kinda talk about it like there were all these better OLBs and DBs that JOnes and Burns have kept off the roster.

IMO, I think it stems from the thoughts that people think the team thinks players like Burns, Hood, Jones and Dupree are fine players and there’s a lack of urgency to replace them? Not so much that there isn’t a better player as much as the team has t tried to find a better one? I’m just guessing.

[Mojouw]

IMO, I think it stems from the thoughts that people think the team thinks players like Burns, Hood, Jones and Dupree are fine players and there’s a lack of urgency to replace them? Not so much that there isn’t a better player as much as the team has t tried to find a better one? I’m just guessing.

Maybe. But that is sort of a different discussion than cutting a guy. I mean the Steelers already demoted Burns for Sensabaugh essentially twice. They drafted Sutton and Lane. They signed Nelson. I feel like there has been a pretty solid effort to get CBs onto the roster. Further, they seem to break camp with the best half dozen or so each year.

For Dupree, they have brought in some unheralded guys but they have brought in several OLBs. Tupac and Alphabet Soup being the most recent. But there was Keion Adams and Farfignewton Hugawhat.

I dunno. I think this time of year (draft to preseason) just makes me grumpy. Seems like everyone just has all these negative takes on things that don't line up with how I remember things...

It is like this for me. All I heard about was how only the moronic coaching staff of the Pittsburgh Steelers would play Blake over Boykin. I think Boykin left Pittsburgh and never played another down of football in a real NFL game. Was it injury? Was it ineffectiveness? Who knows. But what I do know is that no one brings that part of it up.

[polamalubeast]

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[hawaiiansteeler]

Steelers' Artie Burns is in a fight -- for his NFL life, and his dad's life

Aug 9, 2019
Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27355023/steelers-artie-burns-fight-nfl-life-dad-life

[teegre]

Steelers' Artie Burns is in a fight -- for his NFL life, and his dad's life

Aug 9, 2019
Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27355023/steelers-artie-burns-fight-nfl-life-dad-life

This is exactly why I was in favor of drafting Artie Burns... because, I knew that I was going to root for him (no matter who drafted him). Simply, my heart overtook my brain.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

This is exactly why I was in favor of drafting Artie Burns... because, I knew that I was going to root for him (no matter who drafted him). Simply, my heart overtook my brain.

Maybe that is why I saw him as a day 3 selection.....I never saw any of those types of stories. I just saw his film.

[teegre]

Maybe that is why I saw him as a day 3 selection.....I never saw any of those types of stories. I just saw his film.

As a player, he’s... not good.

As a human, he’s an All Pro.

[HollywoodSteel]

I for one am happy we still have Burns after watching our back up corners stop absolutely no one in that preseason game. I don’t think I saw a corner break up a single pass. Just tackle after the catch or get lucky because the pass rush caused a bad throw.

[polamalubeast]

I for one am happy we still have Burns after watching our back up corners stop absolutely no one in that preseason game. I don’t think I saw a corner break up a single pass. Just tackle after the catch or get lucky because the pass rush caused a bad throw.

Layne is going to be our 6th corner this year if Burns proves that last year was a fluke ...

I will not be worried because of the game against Tampa Bay ... I mean, no other CB that will be in our rotation this year played in this game, outside of Hilton (I do not know if he had a pass against him) and Sutton (I do not think he was a problem)

[pczach]

This is exactly why I was in favor of drafting Artie Burns... because, I knew that I was going to root for him (no matter who drafted him)





That story about him and hearing about how he is raising his brothers will always make me root for him. I knew that going into the draft, and although I didn't like the pick at the time because I thought it was too high....I was happy for him personally and was really hoping he would become a great player.

I get pissed off reading posts from people that make it so personal. They make claims about players on a personal level when they have NO idea how they conduct themselves in life or professionally.

People can criticize the player if they want, but I ask that they please root for the man inside the helmet.

[HollywoodSteel]

Layne is going to be our 6th corner this year if Burns proves that last year was a fluke ...

I will not be worried because of the game against Tampa Bay ... I mean, no other CB that will be in our rotation this year played in this game, outside of Hilton (I do not know if he had a pass against him) and Sutton (I do not think he was a problem)

I’m just saying that I don’t mind the idea of Burns for depth since Layne is not ready. Especially if reports about Burns from camp this year are true.

And our back up safeties seemed pretty awful in coverage as well.

[hawaiiansteeler]

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[El-Gonzo Jackson]

That story about him and hearing about how he is raising his brothers will always make me root for him. I knew that going into the draft, and although I didn't like the pick at the time because I thought it was too high....I was happy for him personally and was really hoping he would become a great player.

I get pissed off reading posts from people that make it so personal. They make claims about players on a personal level when they have NO idea how they conduct themselves in life or professionally.

People can criticize the player if they want, but I ask that they please root for the man inside the helmet.

I thought Burns was a round 3-5 talent in his draft season and was pretty vocal about it. The minute he was drafted, I hoped I was wrong and was rooting for the guy, but alas it turns out he is who I thought he was. I still hope Teryl Austin can resurrect his ability and turn him into a serviceable player, but don't think he is gonna be top 3 on this roster and it looks like Sutton is grabbing hold of the top 4 spot as well.

Unfortunately for the Steelers it looks like Burns is an athlete, but not a football player. Still hopeful he is a backup CB in the event of injury and maybe the #5 guy until Layne learns how to play NFL football.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Here is the thing about Artie and why I spotted it early and don't think he will ever be a good football player and specially a good CB. He does not look back at the football or the QB throwing it hardly ever. I think he is, I will knock the ball out of the WR hands at the last moment and rely on my speed. Hence all the pass interference calls when he realize he is burnt no pun intended. Wish him luck and not sure a coach will help to improve him and have little faith.

Glad to see he is a great human being and that is awesome and what a cool guy! Did not know that about him and wish him the best in life and football!

[steelreserve]

That story about him and hearing about how he is raising his brothers will always make me root for him. I knew that going into the draft, and although I didn't like the pick at the time because I thought it was too high....I was happy for him personally and was really hoping he would become a great player.

I get pissed off reading posts from people that make it so personal. They make claims about players on a personal level when they have NO idea how they conduct themselves in life or professionally.

People can criticize the player if they want, but I ask that they please root for the man inside the helmet.

I don't understand why anyone would actually be rooting "against" any player currently on the team. Especially if they're just mad at him because he sucks. Wouldn't him suddenly improving solve both problems at once?

I do, however, completely understand why people have a frustrated / defeatist attitude about these kinfs of players who just never can seem to get their shit together and never will.

[Steeldude]

Artie Burns has his swagger back. That was something he was missing last season, but he is his old feisty self now. That is a great thing to see.

https://steelersdepot.com/2019/08/farabaugh-training-camp-observations-day-six/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Back? Feisty? This sounds like a Jarvis Jones article.

Well hopefully he can at least be an averag CB this season.

[teegre]

Two series, two great plays by Burbs.

1. Open-field tackle on Tyreek Hill (for no gain).

2. Forced a fumble.

[teegre]

3. Good pass breakup.

4. Batted pass (almost an INT) as he rushed the passer.

SUMMATION:
Burns looks focused & driven.

[Craic]

Back? Feisty? This sounds like a Jarvis Jones article.

Well hopefully he can at least be an averag CB this season.

If tonight's play was any indication, it seems that might be his baseline with a higher ceiling than we previously hoped this season. Of course, it was just one game, but it makes me look forward to watching him next week.

[HollywoodSteel]

3. Good pass breakup.

4. Batted pass (almost an INT) as he rushed the passer.

SUMMATION:
Burns looks focused & driven.

Yes.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I’m glad we have him. If for nothing else, depth.

We’ve heard nothing but good things about him coming out of camp this year. I’m really not that surprised that he’s turning things around to a certain extent.

Am I saying that I suddenly believe he’s everything we hoped we’d get out of a first round pick? No, of course not. But I do think he can still contribute and be much better than he was last year since he seems to be working so hard at it.

And getting his confidence back could go a long way for a corner like him.

[Craic]

Yes.

Like I said earlier in the thread, I’m glad we have him. If for nothing else, depth.

We’ve heard nothing but good things about him coming out of camp this year. I’m really not that surprised that he’s turning things around to a certain extent.

Am I saying that I suddenly believe he’s everything we hoped we’d get out of a first round pick? No, of course not. But I do think he can still contribute and be much better than he was last year since he seems to be working so hard at it.

And getting his confidence back could go a long way for a corner like him.

There's one other thing about Burns that people forget. He's only 24 years old. At that age, the brain has just (or is still) connecting the frontal lobe and allowing for depth of thought (that is, grey-area thought rather than thinking in absolutes). Since Burns's problems have been between the ears, there's at least a reason to hope that he may overcome it (at least to a point) this year.

[HollywoodSteel]

There's one other thing about Burns that people forget. He's only 24 years old. At that age, the brain has just (or is still) connecting the frontal lobe and allowing for depth of thought (that is, grey-area thought rather than thinking in absolutes). Since Burns's problems have been between the ears, there's at least a reason to hope that he may overcome it (at least to a point) this year.

I agree with all of it.

Plus let’s face it, Burns is a good kid and easy to root for. I really want him to succeed.

[teegre]

There's one other thing about Burns that people forget. He's only 24 years old. At that age, the brain has just (or is still) connecting the frontal lobe and allowing for depth of thought (that is, grey-area thought rather than thinking in absolutes). Since Burns's problems have been between the ears, there's at least a reason to hope that he may overcome it (at least to a point) this year.

Burns admitted at draft time that he needed another year in college. But, life intervened.

Ile Taylor lost confidence for a season (2006)... but, when he regained his confidence, he was outstanding. I don’t think that Artie Burns will be that* good, but I’ll gladly take the Artie Burns from last night (for the next six seasons).


*(I used to think that, but I’m more realistic now.)

[polamalubeast]

I think Burns is a lock for the roster spot this year .... The only way he's not a steelers when the regular season start is if he's traded, but it's unlikely

Many forget that Burns was fine in his first two seasons ... Last year, it was a disaster for him of course, but he was fine before that.

[DesertSteel]

I think Burns is a lock for the roster spot this year .... The only way he's not a steelers when the regular season start is if he's traded, but it's unlikely

Many forget that Burns was fine in his first two seasons ... Last year, it was a disaster for him of course, but he was fine before that.
I'm not sure 'fine' is how I'd describe it... He played to the level of a 3rd-4th rounder, but never a 1st.

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I agree with all of it.

Plus let’s face it, Burns is a good kid and easy to root for. I really want him to succeed.
Me too!

[polamalubeast]

I'm not sure 'fine' is how I'd describe it... He played to the level of a 3rd-4th rounder, but never a 1st.

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Me too!

I know he did not play as a first round pick but he was not garbage like last year

[Steeler-in-west]

If burns has a comeback year I’ll attribute it to better locker room culture