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Born2Steel
06-14-2019, 12:28 PM
What are the thoughts on Hargrave starting ahead of Tuitt in 2DL sets? Or getting closer to 50/50 snaps anyway?

Mojouw
06-14-2019, 03:16 PM
I have no idea how to do it, but good things happen when Hargrave plays on passing downs.

pczach
06-14-2019, 03:43 PM
I think I read somewhere that both players had higher rates of pressures than Heyward.

I love Hargrave. He is a disrupter and has natural pass rush ability. They need to get him on the field on passing downs more this year. They seemed to figure that out later in the year last season.

Born2Steel
06-14-2019, 06:34 PM
Javon's stats since his draft in 2016:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HargJa00.htm

Stephon's stats since his draft in 2014:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TuitSt00.htm

Cam's stats since his draft in 2011:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HeywCa01.htm

1st 3 seasons of career comparison looks like this:
Cam - 48 games, 12 TFLs, 7.5 sacks, 20 QB hits
Stephon - 32 games, 17 TFLs, 11.5 sacks, 30 QB hits
Javon - 47 games, 15 TFLs, 10.5 sacks, 16 QB hits

I honestly don't know why we don't have all 3 of these guys on the field together more. Bring these guys with TJ and there's a good chance somebody's hitting the QB or getting a TFL on a RB every play.

BTW, TJ in 2 seasons has: 31 games, 22 TFLs, 20 sacks, 34 QB hits.

teegre
06-15-2019, 12:08 PM
Tuitt is quietly really good. He’s never reached the level I had once expected (All Pro), but he’s a very good DE.

That said, when Hargrave is on the field, good things happen. It passes the “eye test”.

SUMMATION:
Both :noidea:

Born2Steel
06-15-2019, 03:46 PM
Tuitt is quietly really good. He’s never reached the level I had once expected (All Pro), but he’s a very good DE.

That said, when Hargrave is on the field, good things happen. It passes the “eye test”.

SUMMATION:
Both :noidea:

As has been said on here before...good problem to have.

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-16-2019, 09:23 PM
This thread title so much makes me think......"Ditka vs. a Hurricane, who wins?" :chuckle:

teegre
06-17-2019, 08:28 AM
This thread title so much makes me think......"Ditka vs. a Hurricane, who wins?" :chuckle:

“Uuuh, Bill... is it, uh, a regular-sized Ditka or is it mini-Ditka?”

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-17-2019, 10:09 AM
“Uuuh, Bill... is it, uh, a regular-sized Ditka or is it mini-Ditka?”:chuckle:

But....what if the hurricane was named Hurricane Ditka??

Mojouw
06-17-2019, 11:12 AM
“Uuuh, Bill... is it, uh, a regular-sized Ditka or is it mini-Ditka?”

Can the mini ditkas fly?


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