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BlackAndGold
04-27-2019, 12:56 PM
Discuss

teegre
04-27-2019, 12:58 PM
I know nothing about him, except that he would have been great in my "all blue & yellow" mock draft.

:lol:

BlackAndGold
04-27-2019, 12:58 PM
Former QB converted to TE. Has played the position for 2 years. Maybe some upside?

stillers4me
04-27-2019, 01:00 PM
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EzraTank
04-27-2019, 01:00 PM
6'8" 265 lbs. Big dude. If he can catch I could see throwing him jump balls in the middle.

BlackAndGold
04-27-2019, 01:00 PM
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stillers4me
04-27-2019, 01:02 PM
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SteelMember
04-27-2019, 01:06 PM
Well. If anything, maybe he solidifies the heavy goal line package... if he can improve his blocking.

Mojouw
04-27-2019, 01:06 PM
Fairly slow. Goes down to easy on contact. Doesn’t really know how to block. Not enough strength for the NFL. Supper tall. Plays his butt off. They managed to find the guy closest to Jesse James to come out in 2 years. AMazing.

So, I guess they really have a type for the 2nd TE position?

hawaiiansteeler
04-27-2019, 01:06 PM
here's your big receiver Ben!

AtlantaDan
04-27-2019, 01:07 PM
The Outlaw Version 2.0, for better or worse

Despite his lofty college yards per reception, Gentry tested as a lowly fifth-percentile SPARQ athlete with 4.90 "speed" and a lineman-esque 7.40 three-cone time. Not a dominant blocker with unreliable hands, Gentry’s NFL ceiling is likely in the Jesse James range.

https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/51803/zach-gentry

Here's Pittsburgh's replacement for Jesse James. Gentry was the biggest tight end prospect in this class, has blocking chops coming from Michigan, and flashed, albeit not often at all, some seam-stretch ability as a receiver.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/draft-tracker/

With his size and background at Michigan, teams might be tempted to play him as a combination tight end with run-blocking duties, but he's much better-suited in space than in the trenches. Gentry runs pretty well and moves fluidly as a route-runner, but his hands and focus can be maddening. He showed flashes of what he could do with a more capable quarterback last year, but his disappointing workouts and testing might have pushed back and out of the draft.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-gentry?id=32194745-4e72-0399-13c5-f32125e7a948

Gentry has a rare combination of height, weight and arm length, but he has marginal top-end speed. His size creates matchup problems and he'll have the ability to generate late separation with his massive frame if he continues to get stronger. He's not much of a threat after the catch and there are too many focus drops on his tape. He has the frame to wall off as a blocker, but he needs to improve his strength and technique.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/rounds


(http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/rounds)

teegre
04-27-2019, 01:08 PM
Maybe they are going to groom AV's replacement...

stillers4me
04-27-2019, 01:09 PM
He was a former QB? Trick play alert!!!!!!

hawaiiansteeler
04-27-2019, 01:09 PM
so we basically traded AB for Diontae Johnson and Zach Gentry.

seems fair :sarcasm2:

Six Rings
04-27-2019, 01:09 PM
Fairly slow. Goes down to easy on contact. Doesn’t really know how to block. Not enough strength for the NFL. Supper tall. Plays his butt off. They managed to find the guy closest to Jesse James to come out in 2 years. AMazing.

So, I guess they really have a type for the 2nd TE position?

James was much faster than Gentry. Not a huge fan of this pick, looks like a situational tight end only. We could have done better in round five.

hawaiiansteeler
04-27-2019, 01:11 PM
first pick I haven't liked.

stillers4me
04-27-2019, 01:13 PM
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Shoes
04-27-2019, 01:16 PM
JJ clone, maybe worse. Slow, no yards after the catch unless a coverage was blown and can't block. Like I said don't bother drafting a TE after R3.

stillers4me
04-27-2019, 01:16 PM
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DesertSteel
04-27-2019, 01:18 PM
The draft experts say "should be in an NFL training camp." That's promising. I hope he shows up.

AtlantaDan
04-27-2019, 01:20 PM
first pick I haven't liked.

Agreed - OL level speed


The draft experts say "should be in an NFL training camp." That's promising.

Not everyone gives him that floor :rolleyes:

His disappointing workouts and testing might have pushed back and out of the draft.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-g...5-f32125e7a948 (https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-gentry?id=32194745-4e72-0399-13c5-f32125e7a948)

Shoes
04-27-2019, 01:24 PM
Agreed - OL level speed



Not everyone gives him that floor :rolleyes:

His disappointing workouts and testing might have pushed back and out of the draft.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-g...5-f32125e7a948 (https://www.nfl.com/prospects/zach-gentry?id=32194745-4e72-0399-13c5-f32125e7a948)

One highlight clip will show all of that, the guys shouldn't have been drafted...by anyone.

polamalubeast
04-27-2019, 01:26 PM
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Shoes
04-27-2019, 01:30 PM
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Those must have been the blow coverage ones. If you look at the film he goes down within 5 yards where he catches the ball.

AtlantaDan
04-27-2019, 01:35 PM
Gentry also compared to another Steelers great from yesteryear

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hawaiiansteeler
04-27-2019, 01:44 PM
Gentry also compared to another Steelers great from yesteryear



so Gentry will be cited with public urination some day?

cool :cool:

SteelMember
04-27-2019, 01:46 PM
His size may be Spaeth, but his blocking has a long ways to go. That's where Speath excelled.

Shoes
04-27-2019, 01:49 PM
If they wanted a blocking TE this late in the draft they should have moved up and took Moreau.

hawaiiansteeler
04-27-2019, 01:49 PM
His size may be Spaeth, but his blocking has a long ways to go. That's where Speath excelled.

I think the Steelers wanted Moreau, and panicked when he was selected a couple picks earlier.

teegre
04-27-2019, 01:50 PM
If they wanted a blocking TE this late in the draft they should have moved up and took Moreau.

It would have only cost us our last R6 pick.

Shoes
04-27-2019, 01:51 PM
I think the Steelers wanted Moreau, and panicked when he was selected a couple picks earlier.

They should have moved up to get him instead of holding on to compost picks.

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It would have only cost us our last R6 pick.

Agreed.

SteelMember
04-27-2019, 01:52 PM
If they wanted a blocking TE this late in the draft they should have moved up and took Moreau.

I called for the same. One of those 6ths would have been pennies to get Moreau if he was their preference. They stood pat hoping he'd fall, imo. Oops

Born2Steel
04-27-2019, 01:56 PM
Should have traded up? How do we know they didn't try? You are all watching a feed, not in the actual warroom. Gentry may end up much better than Moreau in the end.

munchy
04-27-2019, 02:10 PM
another project that could have been had a round or 2 later.
probably makes the team because our current group of TEs are pathetic (after mcdonald)

st33lersguy
04-27-2019, 02:47 PM
They needed someone other than Grimble behind McDonald besides useless Grimble, especially since they let go of Hodges

Born2Steel
04-27-2019, 02:51 PM
They needed someone other than Grimble behind McDonald besides useless Grimble, especially since they let go of Hodges

I honestly did not know we let go of Hodges.

steelreserve
04-27-2019, 02:58 PM
If you are going to pick a TE like this, you need to do it in the 7th round. You're slipping, Colbert.

AtlantaDan
04-27-2019, 03:50 PM
More shade thrown at this pick courtesy of Gerry Dulac

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(https://mobile.twitter.com/gerrydulac/status/1122206681465806855)

86WARD
04-27-2019, 04:15 PM
Fairly slow. Goes down to easy on contact. Doesn’t really know how to block. Not enough strength for the NFL. Supper tall. Plays his butt off. They managed to find the guy closest to Jesse James to come out in 2 years. AMazing.

So, I guess they really have a type for the 2nd TE position?

If he’s as good as James and a little taller, I’m good with that. McDonald is the main guy and he’s been good.

Mojouw
04-27-2019, 04:34 PM
If he’s as good as James and a little taller, I’m good with that. McDonald is the main guy and he’s been good.

I guess that all depends on how you viewed Jesse James. I thought he was a borderline waste of a roster spot and created more problems than he solved. I would have rather had a 2nd TE with 2 Jim Abbott hands that could set an edge in the run game than Jesse James.

I'm being extreme. But I just don't think guys that tall like James and Gentry can win the leverage advantage with yoked up NFL defenders. They are too tall and lack the functional strength. They can be good receiving options, but they aren't really TEs.

Born2Steel
04-27-2019, 05:25 PM
I guess that all depends on how you viewed Jesse James. I thought he was a borderline waste of a roster spot and created more problems than he solved. I would have rather had a 2nd TE with 2 Jim Abbott hands that could set an edge in the run game than Jesse James.

I'm being extreme. But I just don't think guys that tall like James and Gentry can win the leverage advantage with yoked up NFL defenders. They are too tall and lack the functional strength. They can be good receiving options, but they aren't really TEs.

What if he's Matt Spaeth(6'7") blocking and Jesse James(6'7") receiving?

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-27-2019, 05:37 PM
His size I think it's worth taken a gamble on him to see if he pans out. If he does he could be a beast at that size and why I'm okay with the pick.

Shoes
04-27-2019, 05:42 PM
His size I think it's worth taken a gamble on him to see if he pans out. If he does he could be a beast at that size and why I'm okay with the pick.

The history of late-round TE and the Steeler's don't work very well. This one won't be any different. The guy can't block and has drop and focus issues. As much as I wanted a TE the pick should have gone to another position imo.

polamalubeast
04-27-2019, 05:44 PM
The history of late-round TE and the Steeler's don't work very well. This one won't be any different. The guy can't block and has the drop and focus issues. As much as I wanted a TE the pick should have gone to another position imo.

Jesse James?

Shoes
04-27-2019, 05:45 PM
Jesse James?

I don't think he is as good as James and James wasn't a good blocker

polamalubeast
04-27-2019, 05:46 PM
I don't think he is as good as James.

Maybe,but James was not a bad late round pick for the steelers.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-27-2019, 05:46 PM
The history of late-round TE and the Steeler's don't work very well. This one won't be any different. The guy can't block and has drop and focus issues. As much as I wanted a TE the pick should have gone to another position imo. You are most likely right but there is always a first time.

Mojouw
04-27-2019, 05:46 PM
What if he's Matt Spaeth(6'7") blocking and Jesse James(6'7") receiving?

I guess that would be fine. If I remember correctly, Spaeth wasn't all that good of a blocker until a few years in the league and after he was on the Bears for a bit. Like year 1-2/3 -- not so much.

It isn't really a big deal. It is just kinda sticking in my craw because I read a bunch of stuff on Gentry pre-draft and was like "Oh. Great. Jesse James in the 3rd round. That'd be just so not exciting."

And here we are...

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-27-2019, 05:48 PM
I think Pitt still likes Grimble and why TE wasn't a high pick.

Shoes
04-27-2019, 05:49 PM
I guess that would be fine. If I remember correctly, Spaeth wasn't all that good of a blocker until a few years in the league and after he was on the Bears for a bit. Like year 1-2/3 -- not so much.

It isn't really a big deal. It is just kinda sticking in my craw because I read a bunch of stuff on Gentry pre-draft and was like "Oh. Great. Jesse James in the 3rd round. That'd be just so not exciting."

And here we are...

Agreed, when McDonald goes down this season we can have a linebacker play TE. :lol:

BlackAndGold
04-27-2019, 05:51 PM
I think Pitt still likes Grimble and why TE wasn't a high pick.

Yes he's a good blocker. They've been working with him for years now.

But of course everyone will remember his fumble vs Denver so he now sucks.

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Still could trade for a #2 tight end if Grimble doesn't work out.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-27-2019, 05:59 PM
Yes he's a good blocker. They've been working with him for years now.

But of course everyone will remember his fumble vs Denver so he now sucks.

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Still could trade for a #2 tight end if Grimble doesn't work out. Agreed and I don't think he is that bad and a lot of players do stupid stuff. Burress comes to mind but made many good plays after and all was forgiven by fans.

hawaiiansteeler
04-27-2019, 08:43 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers: Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan C- Grade

I didn't think there was a good chance Zach Gentry would be drafted. I had him slotted in the seventh round in the end, but I excluded him from my mock at times. He's a raw player with poor athleticism, so he offers a low ceiling and a low floor. This isn't a very good pick.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades5.php

Shoes
04-27-2019, 08:55 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers: Zach Gentry, TE, Michigan C- Grade

I didn't think there was a good chance Zach Gentry would be drafted. I had him slotted in the seventh round in the end, but I excluded him from my mock at times. He's a raw player with poor athleticism, so he offers a low ceiling and a low floor. This isn't a very good pick.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades5.php

You are correct Gentry shouldn't have been drafted. I like Snell but If they wanted a TE that should have taken one in R4 and an RB in R5. All this talk from Colbert about the best player available is BS, Gentry was not the BPA in R5. It was a wasted pick imo.

Here are the R5 picks

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2019-nfl-draft-grades-analysis-for-every-fifth-round-pick-from-deionte-thompson-to-cole-holcomb/

tom444
04-27-2019, 09:42 PM
6-foot-8(!)

Well, you can stick him in the end zone on the hail mary.

Just make sure it's a hail mary.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DphiN4whQ3Q

Bluecoat96
04-27-2019, 10:14 PM
Granted, I'm as biased as they come since I'm a big Michigan fan, but I believe that Gentry's ceiling is way higher that JJ's ever was. He had moments that were truly exciting....and some "meh" moments. The fact that he had academic honors at a quality University like Michigan says to me that he has the mental capacity to succeed at the next level. I think that he's just beginning to learn of his potential as a TE. He's a 5th round draft pick. Worst case scenario? I think they could stash him on the practice squad. We'll see. Go Blue!

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polamalubeast
04-28-2019, 10:07 AM
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Shoes
04-28-2019, 10:22 AM
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Right, and PFF had TJ Hockenson ranked 21st in the draft.

But I wish him success.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-28-2019, 12:16 PM
Gentry had 32 catches for 514 yards this past season with Shea Patterson at QB. The year before the Michigan QB situation was a mess with them bouncing between Speight and O'Korn and whoever didn't suck. Gentry had 303 receiving yards in 2017 and was named most improved offensive player, after making the switch to TE.

Gentry still has a lot of upside, as he only has a couple years playing TE. I expect him to improve while in Pittsburgh, but he is really just a #2TE, like James was IMO. Below is a video of some of his play from the first half of last season and he is more productive than all the stat nerds, who never watched games think he is. I like the pick, even though I wanted Justin Hollins, OLB Oregon with that pick and he was still on the board. But another decent TE would not have been around by the time the Steelers picked in the 6th.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRttqsW0vTE

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Oh and unlike some have posted, he isnt a real good blocking TE. He needs work in that area for sure.

Mojouw
04-28-2019, 12:25 PM
OK. Here is the thing, is Gentry really a TE? I mean he is tall. But he has low functional strength for all that size. I have yet to see any film of him blocking the snot out of anyone. In fact most reports indicate he isn't a very good blocker, like at all. The inability of James and Grimble to block was the reason that Colbert had to move a draft pick and pry McDonald loose. A #2 TE, ideally isn't about "stretching the seam" it is about being a good enough blocker that the defense truly believes it will be a run, aligns to defend that, and then you pass out of that formation.

Gentry looks better as a "move" TE that starts out split wide to begin with. The problem with that is that while he will still be tall in the NFL, he will be painfully slow. His forty times and change of direction drills are bad. So can he even do the TE adjacent stuff he did at Michigan in the pros? Testing numbers say "not really".

Hopefully he can pack on muscle, NOT lose any "speed" (he doesn't have any to lose), do a bunch of yoga and not be so stiff and lumbering, and get better.

I will root for the guy. I watched him play in the Big 10, and he can ball a bit. But I will say that if you can not dominate Big 10 competition, I have little faith in your ability to have much of an impact in the NFL.

Shoes
04-28-2019, 12:29 PM
Gentry had 32 catches for 514 yards this past season with Shea Patterson at QB. The year before the Michigan QB situation was a mess with them bouncing between Speight and O'Korn and whoever didn't suck. Gentry had 303 receiving yards in 2017 and was named most improved offensive player, after making the switch to TE.

Gentry still has a lot of upside, as he only has a couple years playing TE. I expect him to improve while in Pittsburgh, but he is really just a #2TE, like James was IMO. Below is a video of some of his play from the first half of last season and he is more productive than all the stat nerds, who never watched games think he is. I like the pick, even though I wanted Justin Hollins, OLB Oregon with that pick and he was still on the board. But another decent TE would not have been around by the time the Steelers picked in the 6th.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRttqsW0vTE

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Oh and unlike some have posted, he isnt a real good blocking TE. He needs work in that area for sure.


Why take a RB in R4? I mean I'm ok with Snell but they could have picked a better TE in R4 and still a good RB in R5

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-28-2019, 12:44 PM
Why take a RB in R4? I mean I'm ok with Snell but they could have got a better TE in R4 and still a good RB in R5

Who was the only TE taken between the Benny Snell pick and the Zack Gentry pick? Foster Moreau.

Steelers likely had 3rd team All-American and First team All SEC RB Benny Snell ranked higher than Foster Moreau in the 4th. Then when the 5th came around, they picked the next best TE on their board, who was Gentry. So the choice was Quadree Ollison and Foster Moreau, or Benny Snell and Zack Gentry as RB/TE selections in the 4th and 5th.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-28-2019, 12:51 PM
OK. Here is the thing, is Gentry really a TE? I mean he is tall. But he has low functional strength for all that size. I have yet to see any film of him blocking the snot out of anyone. In fact most reports indicate he isn't a very good blocker, like at all. The inability of James and Grimble to block was the reason that Colbert had to move a draft pick and pry McDonald loose. A #2 TE, ideally isn't about "stretching the seam" it is about being a good enough blocker that the defense truly believes it will be a run, aligns to defend that, and then you pass out of that formation.

Gentry looks better as a "move" TE that starts out split wide to begin with. The problem with that is that while he will still be tall in the NFL, he will be painfully slow. His forty times and change of direction drills are bad. So can he even do the TE adjacent stuff he did at Michigan in the pros? Testing numbers say "not really".

Hopefully he can pack on muscle, NOT lose any "speed" (he doesn't have any to lose), do a bunch of yoga and not be so stiff and lumbering, and get better.

I will root for the guy. I watched him play in the Big 10, and he can ball a bit. But I will say that if you can not dominate Big 10 competition, I have little faith in your ability to have much of an impact in the NFL.

So what was the better option, to pick Foster Moreau in the 4th, or just not pick Gentry at all and instead wait to the 7th and get Sweeney from Boston College, who isn't a threat to catch the football at all?

Reality is that the Steelers had too many other needs at ILB, OLB, CB, WR, RB to use any of their RD 1-3 on a TE, so the only guy that was available ahead of Gentry was Moreau. I am honestly not going to gripe much about the difference in talent between Moreau and Gentry. I thought they were both 5th round type guys.

Shoes
04-28-2019, 01:01 PM
Who was the only TE taken between the Benny Snell pick and the Zack Gentry pick? Foster Moreau.

Steelers likely had 3rd team All-American and First team All SEC RB Benny Snell ranked higher than Foster Moreau in the 4th. Then when the 5th came around, they picked the next best TE on their board, who was Gentry. So the choice was Quadree Ollison and Foster Moreau, or Benny Snell and Zack Gentry as RB/TE selections in the 4th and 5th.

Yes, Snell ranked higher than Moreau but there were better players at other positions available than Gentry in R5. I would have skipped the TE and pick the best player. If McDonald goes down they will end up trading or picking up a TE anyway this season.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-28-2019, 02:00 PM
Yes, Snell ranked higher than Moreau but there were better players at other positions available than Gentry in R5. I would have skipped the TE and pick the best player. If McDonald goes down they will end up trading or picking up a TE anyway this season.

I can agree with that. I still liked Justin Hollins from Oregon and thought we needed some more depth of a guy that can rush the QB from the OLB position.

Born2Steel
04-28-2019, 02:06 PM
Can we give the guy a day at training camp first. He may be a wonderful surprise, he may crumble to dust.

I am VERY confident in Benny Snell. That was a good pick in round 4. Sorry TE wasn't a higher priority in the minds of the Steeler's FO but this poor mouthing every move because Hockenson or Fant didn't get drafted is simply childish. You're better than that. We've had too many conversations on here for me to believe you are that petty and immature. Chill with the bashing until we have something to actually bash, then I'll join you in the bashing. PROMISE.

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I was ALL IN on getting a pure pass rusher in the 4th or 5th as well. In fact I was hoping for it and trying to decide which one I liked better. But I will take Snell and Gentry until they prove to be bad picks.

Mojouw
04-28-2019, 02:19 PM
To be clear, I am team "root for Gentry" since he was drafted by the Steelers. I am also on team, "don't draft TEs that can't do TE things".

I would rather have just left the draft with MacDonald and Grimble and filled the hole on the roster at another time. I also don't see the point of drafting a TE that can just block and is no threat in the passing game (the Moreau dude). Honestly, maybe they just put Hawkins on a diet...

Shoes
04-28-2019, 03:18 PM
To be clear, I am team "root for Gentry" since he was drafted by the Steelers. I am also on team, "don't draft TEs that can't do TE things".

I would rather have just left the draft with MacDonald and Grimble and filled the hole on the roster at another time. I also don't see the point of drafting a TE that can just block and is no threat in the passing game (the Moreau dude). Honestly, maybe they just put Hawkins on a diet...

Agree 100%

Shoes
04-28-2019, 03:41 PM
Can we give the guy a day at training camp first. He may be a wonderful surprise, he may crumble to dust.

I am VERY confident in Benny Snell. That was a good pick in round 4. Sorry TE wasn't a higher priority in the minds of the Steeler's FO but this poor mouthing every move because Hockenson or Fant didn't get drafted is simply childish. You're better than that. We've had too many conversations on here for me to believe you are that petty and immature. Chill with the bashing until we have something to actually bash, then I'll join you in the bashing. PROMISE.

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I was ALL IN on getting a pure pass rusher in the 4th or 5th as well. In fact I was hoping for it and trying to decide which one I liked better. But I will take Snell and Gentry until they prove to be bad picks.


I don't know who you are talking to here but I suspect it's me. This is a Football forum filled with peoples opinions and nothing more. I had no illusions that Hock or Fant would be draft by the Steelers nor do I think anyone else did. My thoughts all along have been if you don't draft a TE after R3 or R4 go for the BPA. Your issue is you want everyone to drink the Rooney, Colbert, and Tomlin kool-aid as you do and not make waves. Well, the world isn't so fairy tale like. I don't need to be instructed by you with your "childish", "petty" and "immature" digs. You know nothing about me. Drink up.

Born2Steel
04-28-2019, 05:57 PM
I don't know who you are talking to here but I suspect it's me. This is a Football forum filled with peoples opinions and nothing more. I had no illusions that Hock or Fant would be draft by the Steelers nor do I think anyone else did. My thoughts all along have been if you don't draft a TE after R3 or R4 go for the BPA. Your issue is you want everyone to drink the Rooney, Colbert, and Tomlin kool-aid as you do and not make waves. Well, the world isn't so fairy tale like. I don't need to be instructed by you with your "childish", "petty" and "immature" digs. You know nothing about me. Drink up.

I apologize then for giving you too much credit. Cheers.

slashsteel
04-28-2019, 06:04 PM
To be clear, I am team "root for Gentry" since he was drafted by the Steelers. I am also on team, "don't draft TEs that can't do TE things".

I would rather have just left the draft with MacDonald and Grimble and filled the hole on the roster at another time. I also don't see the point of drafting a TE that can just block and is no threat in the passing game (the Moreau dude). Honestly, maybe they just put Hawkins on a diet...
Little hard to tell what a conversion project can or can't do being relatively new at his position.

He had a good catch per average, 500 yards receiving wasn't horrible. Also read he was an effort blocker, So can't rule out that he can't improve in this area.

I think there is some things there to like, but hard to tell if he long term sticks. With 3 TE's usually the roster standard, I think he will be on the roster at least this year. Unless he camp bombs out. Which I don't see happening.

polamalubeast
04-28-2019, 06:53 PM
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Shoes
04-28-2019, 07:35 PM
I apologize then for giving you too much credit. Cheers.

I don't come here for apologies or credit. It's a football forum to share one's opinion and nothing more.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-28-2019, 07:46 PM
I don't come here for apologies or credit. It's a football forum to share one's opinion and nothing more.
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DesertSteel
04-28-2019, 08:01 PM
He looks a little more athletic in that highlight video than I was expecting. I’m gonna grade the pick a B- at this point until I see how he develops.