Day 3: R4, R5, R6, R6, R6, R7 (who is left?)

[teegre]

Here is a short list of who we could draft tomorrow. I will add to this later tonight (or, in the morning). The players with an "*" met with the Steelers. So far, all of our picks have met with the Steelers. (Note: The Steelers were at Alabama's pro day.) Lastly, we might double-dip at WR, and it never hurts to double-dip at CB.

*Charles Omenihu, OLB, Texas
Christian Miller, OLB, Alabama
*David Long, OLB???, WVU
*Ben Burr-Kirven, OLB???, Washington
*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
*Justin Hollins, OLB, Oregon

Dionte Thompson, S, Alabama
*Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida
Amani Hooker, S, Iowa
*Ugo Amadi, S, Oregon

*Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.
*Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
*David Sills, WR, WVU
*Gary Jennings, WR, WVU

Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
*Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn St.
Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston

... and, lots & lots of RBs

[NOTE: I will also add a trade up chart.]

[BlackAndGold]

Hope the Steelers move up and get CGJ. He's a ideal dime safety.

Then Moreau in round 5 hopefully, West Virginia has a great blocking tight in in Trevon Wesco


Mack Wilson has yet to be drafted. Ouch.

[teegre]

Trevon Wesco

That's right!!! :nod: I'll add him to my Google Doc.


With six picks left, I'm guessing that one of them will be a Mountaineer.

[BlackAndGold]

That's right!!! :nod: I'll add him to my Google Doc.

As we know they were at his pro day. Unless Moreau is there I can see him being the pick in round 5 if they don't take Moreau in round 4.

( really hope the Steelers move up for a ball hawk safety)

[munchy]

i cant see them drafting another wr

juju
washington
moncrief
switzer
johnson

plus 5 more scrubs for practice squad....

the above 5 mentioned are locks.

[SteelMember]

( really hope the Steelers move up for a ball hawk safety)

Who you like, Hooker?

[teegre]

Picks and values

R4 (122) ... 50
R5 (141) ... 35
R6 (175) ... 21
R6 (192) ... 14
R6 (207) ... 8
R7 (219) ... 3


Trading up in R4:

R4 (50) + R6 (14) = 64 ... Pick 115 (thirteenth pick)

*R4 (50) + R6 (21) = 71 ... Pick 112 (tenth pick)

R4 (50) + R5 (35) = 85 ... Pick 105 (third pick)

**R4 (50) + R6 (21) + R6 (14) = 85 ... Pick 105 (third pick)


* good value

**this seems like a steal, if there’s a guy who “fell” and they wanted to get to the top of R4; plus, you get to keep the R5 pick.

[Born2Steel]

Would 'LOVE' to see a double dip at CB. Some good LBs left in this draft also. Moreau or Mack either one, both very similar.

[Born2Steel]

Kelvin Harmon(WR) is still available as well.
Jordan Wyatt(CB)
Tony Pollard(RB/WR/KR)
Blake Cashman(ILB)
Mack Wilson(ILB)
Dru Tranquill(ILB)
Dillon Mitchell(WR)
Stanley Morgan(WR)
Mike Bell(Safety)

[BlackAndGold]

Who you like, Hooker?

CGJ and Hooker.

both fit well as a dime safety. Albeit CGJ can be a legit free safety, not sure why he has not been drafted.

[steelreserve]

*Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

We have a dire shortage of useless 7th-round TEs who stay on the roster for several years despite the fact that they suck shit and we don't really need a fourth tight end.

Grimble is kind of holding down that spot, but is a little too athletic and seems to bounce between TE2 and TE3, so he does not quite fit the mold, although he is pretty useless.

Moreau is the top-rated TE remaining by many accounts, so he can't be it simply because he won't be there in R7.

Mack, I don't know if he'll last that long either, but he's out because the useless tight end needs to be tall and lanky and run tentatively and awkwardly after the catch, and always look like he's going to fumble at any moment.

I have my eyes on Donald Parham (http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/103814) from Stetson, who is the worst-rated TE left that many people actually bothered to rate, fits the tall and lanky model great, and has the potential for extra disappointment by being 6'8" so people will go "wow, with that size advantage, he's bound to be useful as (a blocker, a red-zone target, etc., pick one)!" He even has a common first name and a last name that starts with PA, in the great tradition of Michael Palmer and David Paulson. This guy is SO in our wheelhouse that I will be throwing chairs if we don't take him with our final pick.

[pczach]

i cant see them drafting another wr

juju
washington
moncrief
switzer
johnson

plus 5 more scrubs for practice squad....

the above 5 mentioned are locks.


You can never say never in the draft. The team may not see it that way.

Either way, there is still a lot of talent left on the board. Let's hope for some great steals on day 3.

[Dwinsgames]

i cant see them drafting another wr

juju
washington
moncrief
switzer
johnson

plus 5 more scrubs for practice squad....

the above 5 mentioned are locks.

+ Eli

[Six Rings]

Here is a short list of who we could draft tomorrow. I will add to this later tonight (or, in the morning). The players with an "*" met with the Steelers. So far, all of our picks have met with the Steelers. (Note: The Steelers were at Alabama's pro day.) Lastly, we might double-dip at WR, and it never hurts to double-dip at CB.

*Charles Omenihu, OLB, Texas
Christian Miller, OLB, Alabama
*David Long, OLB???, WVU
*Ben Burr-Kirven, OLB???, Washington
*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
*Justin Hollins, OLB, Oregon

Dionte Thompson, S, Alabama
*Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida
Amani Hooker, S, Iowa
*Ugo Amadi, S, Oregon

*Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.
*Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
*David Sills, WR, WVU
*Gary Jennings, WR, WVU

Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
*Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn St.
Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston

... and, lots & lots of RBs

[NOTE: I will also add a trade up chart.]

Lot of good football players on the board. I expect a run on the WR's and DB's. Of the players you mentioned Burr-Kirven had amazing production and first round numbers at the combine, no reason why we can't draft another Inside Linebacker.

Julian Love would be a really nice pick for the Steelers. For some reason, I think we pick Moreau, if he's on the board in rounds 4-5.

When it comes to round 6-7, those guys seldom pan out unless they are punters or kickers. With three 6th round picks, we could upgrade at punter or kicker.

With Conner and Samuels, Running back is not a need, but if a BPA guy slides to us I'd be okay with it after round four.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Then Moreau in round 5 hopefully, West Virginia has a great blocking tight in in Trevon Wesco


Mack Wilson has yet to be drafted. Ouch.

I'm hoping they end up with Moreau and Justin Hollins.

Mack Wilson looked terrible on tape to me, but I am surprised that some team didn't get teased by his athleticism. Tre Lamar from Clemson was getting hyped as well, but he is pedestrian in his speed. Germaine Pratt is a Bungle now.

[DesertSteel]

Hoping for Julian Love CB and David Sills WR.

[Born2Steel]

I would love to have Justice Hill become a Steeler if we do draft a RB today.

If we double down on CB Julien Love is my favorite still on the board. Isaiah Johnson is not a bad pick based purely on potential, and I really like Wyatt(SMU) late or UDFA.

I doubt we take another WR only because the WR room only has so many chairs. But...Harmon has been on 'my' list this entire preseason. A bit surprised he's still available.

Omenihu, Miller, Long, Burr-Kirven, Brailford, Hollins, Jelks? Yes please, I'll take any 2!

As for TE I could see not even drafting one with McDonald, Grimble, and Hodges unless it's the extra tackle type. Don't really need another 'Y-type'. That's why I agree it will be either Moreau or Mack or none.

Of the safeties left who has the best ball skills and best range, Ugo or Gardner-Johnson? Mike Bell from Fresno State is another physical freak that needs some training up and time in a pro conditioning system.

[Shoes]

Sheldrick Redwine hasn't been taken, has he?

[Born2Steel]

Sheldrick Redwine hasn't been taken, has he?

Correct, Redwine is another safety with good size, speed, and ball skills still available.

[teegre]

Sheldrick Redwine hasn't been taken, has he?

No, he has not.

Good catch. After breakfast, I’ll update the list. :nod:

[AtlantaDan]

+ Eli

With his attitude I have no clue why he was signed to a 2 year deal in March unless it was in case the FA and draft additions at WR look bad in preseason

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2019/3/14/18265636/pittsburgh-steelers-sign-wide-receiver-eli-rogers-to-a-2-year-deal-donte-moncrief-nfl-news

I will be surprised if he is on the roster in September

[teegre]

The Cardinals are on the clock...

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Butler doesn't last long.

[teegre]

CG-J is gone. Drat.

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I have added a few more, plus added names mentioned in this thread.

*Charles Omenihu, OLB, Texas
Christian Miller, OLB, Alabama
*David Long, OLB???, WVU
*Ben Burr-Kirven, OLB???, Washington
*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
*Justin Hollins, OLB, Oregon
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama
Dru Tranquill, ILB, Notre Dame
Blake Cashman, ILB, Minnesota

Dionte Thompson, S, Alabama
Amani Hooker, S, Iowa
*Ugo Amadi, S, Oregon
Sheldrick Redwine, S, The “U”
Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
*Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame
*Trevon Wesco, TE, WVU

Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
*Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn St.
Isaiah Johnson, CB, Houston
Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St.
*Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia
*David Sills, WR, WVU
*Gary Jennings, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska

Tony Pollard, RB, Memphis
Benny Snell, RB, Kentucky

[hawaiiansteeler]

CG-J is gone. Drat.

not surprised, Butler and CG-J were ripe fruit hanging on the tree.

[teegre]

not surprised, Butler and CG-J were ripe fruit hanging on the tree.

:yup: I was in favor of trading up to get the "steal" who "dropped". It is also why those high picks at the beginning of Day 2 and Day 3 have so much value.

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julian Love CB gone.

[hawaiiansteeler]

:yup: I was in favor of trading up to get the "steal" who "dropped". It is also why those high picks at the beginning of Day 2 and Day 3 have so much value.

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julian Love CB gone.

Love was another player I never thought would make it to Day 3.

[teegre]

Lot of good football players on the board. I expect a run on the WR's and DB's. Of the players you mentioned Burr-Kirven had amazing production and first round numbers at the combine, no reason why we can't draft another Inside Linebacker.

Julian Love would be a really nice pick for the Steelers. For some reason, I think we pick Moreau, if he's on the board in rounds 4-5.

When it comes to round 6-7, those guys seldom pan out unless they are punters or kickers. With three 6th round picks, we could upgrade at punter or kicker.

With Conner and Samuels, Running back is not a need, but if a BPA guy slides to us I'd be okay with it after round four.

I agree with all of this. Heck, VW is good, but not replaceable. Long or Burr-Kirven provide depth, and honestly, competition. Plus, I've read that Burr-Kirven might be able to slide outside (and, likewise, I feel that Long could, as well).


As far as WR goes, we do not need one... but, with practice squad being so user-friendly, you can always stash one there.

[polamalubeast]

A Punter in the 4th round?!

Stupid 49ers!

[hawaiiansteeler]

A Punter in the 4th round?!

Stupid 49ers!

San Francisco 49ers: Mitch Wishnowsky, P, Utah GENE SMITH Grade

Long ago, Jaguars general manager Gene Smith used a third-round pick on a punter. He passed on Russell Wilson in the process. This is a classic example of why you should never draft a punter prior to the seventh round. This is a wasted pick, and an easy "F."

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades4.php

[teegre]

10 picks to go.

Charles Omenihu had a great Senior Bowl. He is a huge OLB, but with so many dime packages, we sort of need an OLB who can also play DE.

David Long and Ben Burr-Kirven can provide depth at ILB, or even competition. Personally, I think that they can play OLB.

I want a pass-rusher. Period.

As far as other positions...

Caleb Wilson was a R1 talent who got injured. He has not reached his initial level of talent, but he could be a "steal" (if he regains his form). At worst, he is Jesse James's replacement (as the "decent" second TE).

And, I'd be fine with a S.

[Born2Steel]

Waiting on that pure pass rusher type.

[teegre]

Waiting on that pure pass rusher type.

100% That is what we need. Everything else is a "upgrade".

[Born2Steel]

There goes Christian Miller.

[Shoes]

The rats have a bunch of picks

[teegre]

Miller gone.
Hooker gone.

[Dwinsgames]

getting to the point now that TE Moreau or S Hooker may be the best Value in terms of pos of need and bpa ...

never mind there goes hooker

[SteelMember]

Miller gone.
Hooker gone.

Dang

[teegre]

5 to go.

Same names as before:
http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/30366-Day-3-R4-R5-R6-R6-R6-R7-(who-is-left-)?p=689988&viewfull=1#post689988

[SteelMember]

Think the Steelers have any feelings on D'andre Walker?

[teegre]

Omenihu
Long
Burr-Kirven
Wilson (TE)

Dionte Thompson, S, Alabama might be the best value.

[BlackAndGold]

Yea CGJ and Hooker wasn't going to fall to Pittsburgh. I felt like both were round day 2 talents.

for safety, Ugo Amadi from Oregon is someone they brought in for a pre draft visit. 9 career interceptions.

[Mojouw]

Miller gone.
Hooker gone.


Dang

Double dang

[teegre]

Think the Steelers have any feelings on D'andre Walker?

They seem to like going to Athens... so, possibly.

[Shoes]

Cheats get the danish viking

[teegre]

Yea CGJ and Hooker wasn't going to fall to Pittsburgh. I felt like both were round day 2 talents.

for safety, Ugo Amadi from Oregon is someone they brought in for a pre draft visit. 9 career interceptions.

He played slot CB, and also boundary CB... and will move to FS. I like his versatility.

[Born2Steel]

Bit of an OL run?

[SteelMember]

Michael Jordan is a guy still there. Would bring interior line flexibility...

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[BlackAndGold]

He played slot CB, and also boundary CB... and will move to FS. I like his versatility.

Something you want with a day 3 defensive back.

[teegre]

Something you want with a day 3 defensive back.

Something the Steelers have been trying to utilize...

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There goes Gary Jennings. We didn't need him, but he was a favorite of mine.

[Shoes]

Browns got redwine?

[teegre]

Redwine gone.
Wesco gone.

[BlackAndGold]

There goes Wesco. Steelers may go TE here.

[teegre]

There goes Wesco. Steelers may go TE here.

Caleb Wilson did not visit, but I'd draft him (over the two that did visit).

[Shoes]

We are in the compost level :chuckle:

[stillers4me]

#Steelers (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash) select Benny Snell Jr. RB Kentucky

[Dwinsgames]

5) Benny Snell RB ( from out mock contest )

[teegre]

Snell is a logical pick. I did NOT want a RB this early, but he is the 'heart" pick. As in: I cannot argue against the pick.

[Born2Steel]

Well ok then. Bowling ball RB it is. Welcome aboard Benny Snell!

[SteelMember]

Humm, he was in the conversation... at some point. Okay.

[Shoes]

NE has two picks coming up. One has to be a TE

[SteelMember]

Shoes... the TE draft tracker... :chuckle:

[teegre]

NE has two picks coming up. One has to be a TE

Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
*Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

[Shoes]

Shoes... the TE draft tracker... :chuckle:

Right, we are scraping the bottom now. Time to draft one. :lol:

[SteelMember]

We have a long wait now. Maybe this is where they look to move up...

[BlackAndGold]

We have a long wait now. Maybe this is where they look to move up...

We have an early 5th. Not that long.

[teegre]

We have an early 5th. Not that long.

:nod:

I'd then trade the R6 picks to get another early R5 pick. Quality over quantity.

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Ridley gone.
Pollard is gone.
Johnson (CB) is gone.

Ravens got a CB (Marshall) who dropped really far (after being a R2 pick early in the process).

[SteelMember]

We have an early 5th. Not that long.

Yeah, 13 or so isn't baaad...

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11...

[BlackAndGold]

Yeah, 13 or so isn't baaad...

After that pick it'll be a wait.

[SteelMember]

:nod:

I'd then trade the R6 picks to get another early R5 pick. Quality over quantity.

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Ridley gone.
Pollard is gone.
Johnson (CB) is gone.

Ravens got a CB (Marshall) who dropped really far (after being a R2 pick early in the process).

Moving using a 6th(s), was my hope.

[teegre]

Moving using a 6th(s), was my hope.

R5 (141) ... 35
R6 (175) ... 21
R6 (192) ... 14

So trade the first two R6 picks, and get back-to-back picks.

[BlackAndGold]

:nod:

I'd then trade the R6 picks to get another early R5 pick. Quality over quantity.


Really want them to get a TE. If not they may have to look if they can trade for one.

[teegre]

Really want them to get a TE. If not they may have to look if they can trade for one.

Shoes agrees. :lol:

Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
*Foster Moreau, TE, LSU
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

[Dwinsgames]

still cant believe they released Hodges ... he must have pissed hot or something

[teegre]

There goes Amandi (S, Oregon). Versatile.

[SteelMember]

Really want them to get a TE. If not they may have to look if they can trade for one.

TE would be nice. Getting some D at either olb or S won't hurt my feelings.

[BlackAndGold]

There goes Amandi (S, Oregon). Versatile.

Dammit.

[teegre]

TE would be nice. Getting some D at either olb or S won't hurt my feelings.

That is my druthers, as well.

[SteelMember]

Here comes the TE gauntlet...

[Shoes]

McDonald hasn’t played a complete season since coming into the nfl. I don’t think that is going to change this season and with him out we are sol.

[SteelMember]

Dammit.

Pats trade knowing they get the TE either way. Drat

[teegre]

Pats trade knowing they get the TE either way. Drat

Yet... they did not draft a TE.

(Shoes cheers.)

[SteelMember]

Oh, surprise... Back up QB.

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Yet... they did not draft a TE.

(Shoes cheers.)

Lol

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6...

[Mojouw]

Stidham is just such a Patriots pick. They will build him into what he was hyped to be and then flip him for 112 draft picks as Tom BRady uses stretching and deionized water to play into his 50s.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

still cant believe they released Hodges ... he must have pissed hot or something

He has been with the Vikings, Panthers, Jets and Steelers since 2017 with no actual games played. I'm really not that shocked he isn't competing for a place on an NFL team.

[teegre]

ESPN is drooling over the Taperiots for picking Stidham... because, you know, minutes beforehand, everyone was just wondering how Stidham had slid so far. :jerkit:

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There goes Cominsky.

My mock draft is in the crapper. :lol:

[polamalubeast]

Michael Jordan with the Bengals!

[teegre]

Michael Jordan with the Bengals!

Will he wear 23 or 45???

[SteelMember]

Uh,oh

[Shoes]

Like I said don’t even pick a TE after R3

[teegre]

I posted this earlier, but...

Charles Omenihu had a great Senior Bowl. He is a huge OLB, but with so many dime packages, we sort of need an OLB who can also play DE.

David Long and Ben Burr-Kirven can provide depth at ILB, or even competition. Personally, I think that they can play OLB.

I want a pass-rusher. Period.

As far as other positions...

Caleb Wilson was a R1 talent who got injured. He has not reached his initial level of talent, but he could be a "steal" (if he regains his form). At worst, he is Jesse James's replacement (as the "decent" second TE).

And, I'd be fine with a S.

[BlackAndGold]

I like Omenihu for the 5th.

[teegre]

I like Omenihu for the 5th.
:nod:

Best value:
Dionte Thompson, S, Alabama

[SteelMember]

Best available safety... Dionte Thompson?

[Dwinsgames]

Like I said don’t even pick a TE after R3

you don't like Mack ?

[teegre]

Thompson is gone.

Omenihu!!!

[Dwinsgames]

Thompson was a rd 1 talent based on the tape through the first 4 weeks of the college season , then fell off the earth with poor play ... was he hurt ? not sure but completely different player beginning of year vs end ...

[SteelMember]

Hollins at OLB...

[teegre]

Omenihu is too big to be an OLB, but so was LaMarr Woodley... and Mike Vrabel.

[Dwinsgames]

and now the talking heads are saying what I just did lol

[SteelMember]

Right on time. D'oh

[teegre]

Hollins at OLB...

That would work.

I want a pass-rusher.

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TE

[polamalubeast]

TE

[Shoes]

Great JJ the second

[teegre]

I know nothing about him, except that he would have been great in my "all blue & yellow" mock draft. LOL

[SteelMember]

And there's the project TE...

[stillers4me]

1122197849427652608

[Dwinsgames]

that is Jesse James all over again .... big and raw with slow feet

[Bluecoat96]

I know nothing about him, except that he would have been great in my "all blue & yellow" mock draft. LOLBeing a Michigan fan, I approve of this pick. Upgrade over the outlaw.

Sent from my XT1710-02 using Tapatalk

[stillers4me]

1122198017078169600

[teegre]

Being a Michigan fan, I approve of this pick. Upgrade over the outlaw.

Thank you. :nod:

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Now... use those R6 picks to TRADE UP.

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Burr-Kirven gone.

[SteelMember]

Now the long wait to fill out the practice squad...

[teegre]

Now the long wait to fill out the practice squad...

Exactly.

I'm going to go watch Endgame. I'll be back just in time for the first R6 pick.

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That last Bucaneers' pick was Gay.

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Oruwariye gone.

[SteelMember]

25... ugh

[polamalubeast]

Kicker in the 6th round for the steelers?

[teegre]

I had Van Ginkel as an URFA in my mock. I removed him... because... I knew he'd go in R5 (to the Dolphins).

[teegre]

Browns get Mack Wilson in R5.

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There goes Justin Hollins.

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19 picks to go... :yawn:

[SteelMember]

17...

[teegre]

There goes Blake Cashman.

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That is a lot of LBs going recently. Expect David Long to go soon, as well. We do not need him, but he'd be a good backup (or, he might push VW). And, he might be able to convert to OLB.

[DesertSteel]

I think the Steelers package one of the 6's and jump up for a guy that dropped whom they like. We need an Edge guy!

[teegre]

I think the Steelers package one of the 6's and jump up for a guy that dropped whom they like. We need an Edge guy!

I agree with both of those statements.

Dammit!!!... Omenihu just went.

[SteelMember]

I think the Steelers package one of the 6's and jump up for a guy that dropped whom they like. We need an Edge guy!

+1

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11...

[tom444]

Patriots' TEs
Austin Seferian-Jenkins (https://www.patriots.com/team/players-roster/austin-seferian-jenkins/)
Jacob Hollister (https://www.patriots.com/team/players-roster/jacob-hollister/)
Stephen Anderson (https://www.patriots.com/team/players-roster/stephen-anderson/)
Matt LaCosse (https://www.patriots.com/team/players-roster/matt-lacosse/) Ryan Izzo (https://www.patriots.com/team/players-roster/ryan-izzo/)

[Mojouw]

I really hope we shore up our long snapper depth. Troubling spot on the roster.

[SteelMember]

Things are really moving... NFL network still reviewing Cashman pick almost 10 ago.

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9...

[Shoes]

I really hope we shore up our long snapper depth. Troubling spot on the roster.

Possible tradeup. :chuckle:

[Mojouw]

Now I'm confused.

Yaaah! Replaced one of the greatest TEs to ever play the game with a former drunk who had one good year and has either been injured or released every other season aside from that one?

Consults notes: However he still has more athletic ability than every TE rostered by the Steelers...

[hawaiiansteeler]

I really hope we shore up our long snapper depth. Troubling spot on the roster.

maybe we can lure James Harrison back out of retirement.

[teegre]

Things are really moving... NFL network still reviewing Cashman pick almost 10 ago.

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9...

I'm not even watching. I have it on, simply, to watch the them talk about the Steelers' picks (10-15 minutes after the pick is actually made).

[Mojouw]

In all seriousness --- Emanuel Hall WR Missouri

Give him a year to get stronger and NOT lose speed -- look out.

[tom444]

Now I'm confused.

Yaaah! Replaced one of the greatest TEs to ever play the game with a former drunk who had one good year and has either been injured or released every other season aside from that one?

Consults notes: However he still has more athletic ability than every TE rostered by the Steelers...


You don't go running around like a chicken with your head cut off just because you lost a player. They'll work it out.

[SteelMember]

Some late QBs

7...

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Headless chickens have some pretty good speed. They just lack vision.

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There goes another olb, Walker.

[teegre]

These next six picks might take eight hours...

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*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

*David Long, OLB???, WVU

Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

*David Sills, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri

[polamalubeast]

These next six picks might take eight hours...

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*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

*David Long, OLB???, WVU

Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

*David Sills, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri



What about the Kicker?

[SteelMember]

WR looks ripe. Surprised Harmon is still there.... well go guard.

[Mojouw]

Some late QBs

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Headless chickens have some pretty good speed. They just lack vision.

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There goes another olb, Walker.

Oh sweet jesus! That was the comment of the day! I mean you just can't make a better joke than that!

[SteelMember]

3...

[teegre]

Isaiah Buggs visited... and we were at his pro day. Plus, we need our annual "replace Dan McCullers" DT pick.

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I'd take a kicker with one of the picks, but right now, I want a pass-rusher.

[tom444]

Not a lot a speed here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOJkF2tB8jc

[SteelMember]

Oh sweet jesus! That was the comment of the day! I mean you just can't make a better joke than that!

:chuckle:

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[teegre]

David Long is a good value here.

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As I've said, he would be a good backup, he would push VW, and maaaaybe he can play OLB (he's athletic enough).

[SteelMember]

6th round... here we come.

[teegre]

Pass rusher

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I know nothing about him.

[Mojouw]

Who?

[Dwinsgames]

I know nothing about this kid .... anyone ?

[polamalubeast]

Pass rusher

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I know nothing about him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/sutton-smith?id=3219534d-4967-1290-7c06-bc9db721f480

[Dwinsgames]

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[Mojouw]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/sutton-smith?id=3219534d-4967-1290-7c06-bc9db721f480

Hopefully someone finds a write-up more encouraging than that. Because it appears the Steelers just drafted Rudy crossed with Matakevich.

[SteelMember]

Nothing on him other than he was ranked 350 something out of 500

[polamalubeast]

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[teegre]

He is what a lot of people have been clamoring for: all production (not a freak athlete with "potential").

[Shoes]

Maybe they should turn Gentry @ 6'7" who was a QB and now is a TE into and edge rusher.

[SteelMember]

15...

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Steelers love the name Sutton.

[polamalubeast]

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[Mojouw]

Okay. So this kinda makes it sound less awful: https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/sutton-smith

"Sutton Smith's NFL project can go one of two ways: Smith can be used as a pass rush specialist and special teams ace, or he can convert to linebacker and utilize his short area quickness, effective hand counters and football instincts on the second level. Smith has the functional athleticism to play in space and often rushed off the edge from a stand-up position. His ceiling is a starting off-ball linebacker with quality pass rush contributions."

That reads like a ILB conversion project. Sits for a year or two, maybe pushes Bostic or Matakevich off the roster with a monster camp this year. And eventually slots in next to Devin Bush?

[Shoes]

He is what a lot of people have been clamoring for: all production (not a freak athlete with "potential").


well yes but edge at 6' 233 pounds, but we are in R6

[Born2Steel]

What I am reading on Sutton Smith(first time looking at him) is he is going to have to be position flexible. Meaning too small to play edge like he did in college. Pass rush specialist so an inside/outside/dime blitzer? Special Teams Ace? Maybe a Nix type situational player.

[teegre]

well yes but edge at 6' 233 pounds?

1. Greg Lloyd was 226 lbs.

2. Like I said, he is what people have been asking for (not a freak, but a producer).

[SteelMember]

Special teamer with olb potential...

[Dwinsgames]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENpyYHpNkVM

[Mojouw]

In the other thread, initial Twitter reports are that he plays ILB and the team expects that.

Question: Why this kid instead of Long?

[Shoes]

1. Greg Lloyd was 226 lbs.

2. Like I said, he is what people have been asking for (not a freak, but a producer).


He looks better than Bud :chuckle:

[teegre]

He's probably already better than Bud :chuckle:

Exactly!!! I'm not down on the pick... I just had never heard of him. That said, his size is indeed a limiting factor.

[Mojouw]

Ok. Based on the video Dwins posted, I can kinda see it. Kid plays his guts out every rep and instead of off the edge, imagine him shot out of cannon coming through the A gap from the ILB position...

[teegre]

Maybe they should turn Gentry @ 6'7" who was a QB and now is a TE into and edge rusher.

:lol: I said he should be AV's replacement.

[Shoes]

Exactly!!! I'm not down on the pick... I just had never heard of him. That said, his size is indeed a limiting factor.

Nor have I, good motor!

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Ok. Based on the video Dwins posted, I can kinda see it. Kid plays his guts out every rep and instead of off the edge, imagine him shot out of cannon coming through the A gap from the ILB position...
You got that right!

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:lol: I said he should be AV's replacement.


He better start eating and get some lead in his pencil. :chuckle:

[SteelMember]

8...

[Dwinsgames]

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[polamalubeast]

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[Born2Steel]

Kelvin Harmon is still out there? Guy is a YAC machine. Must have an undisclosed injury, or I don't get it.

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There goes another of my UDFAs dammit!

[Dwinsgames]

Maybe they should turn Gentry @ 6'7" who was a QB and now is a TE into and edge rusher.

to slow

[BlackAndGold]

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Yep watch out for Ola and Keion Adams whom they're still high on.

[SteelMember]

2...

[Born2Steel]

If Jelks or Gerry Green are there let's grab one of them guys. Both can get after the passer.

[teegre]

Kelvin Harmon is still out there? Guy is a YAC machine. Must have an undisclosed injury, or I don't get it.

Hot & cold.

When he is on, he is unstoppable. When he is off, he looks like an unmotivated Randy Moss.

[Shoes]

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Go away, Butler.

[teegre]

If Jelks or Gerry Green are there let's grab one of them guys. Both can get after the passer.

*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

*David Sills, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri

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We need another MAC player... gimme Malik Grant.

[SteelMember]

Oline or Dline...

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Buggs...

[teegre]

Isaiah Buggs visited... and we were at his pro day. Plus, we need our annual "replace Dan McCullers" DT pick.

Finally... I get a pick from my mock!!! :lol:

[Mojouw]

I big fat guy with questionable desire! We get one of those every year!

[SteelMember]

Try to get the safety with the last 6th?

[Dwinsgames]

ehh

[Born2Steel]

Completely forgot about Buggs. Better than Jelks here, IMO.

[teegre]

I big fat guy with questionable desire! We get one of those every year!

Yep, the annual "replace Dan McCullers" draft pick. :toofunny:

[polamalubeast]

I big fat guy with questionable desire! We get one of those every year!

LOL

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

I big fat guy with questionable desire! We get one of those every year! So does the WWE.

[teegre]

Try to get the safety with the last 6th?



We need another MAC player... gimme Malik Grant.

:nod:

[polamalubeast]

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[hawaiiansteeler]

Yep, the annual "replace Dan McCullers" draft pick. :toofunny:

or L.T. Walton

[Shoes]

Anyone pick Sills yet?

[SteelMember]

Anyone pick Sills yet?

No, and Preston Williams s still there too. Just mention him because he talked with the team early on.

[teegre]

No, and Preston Williams s still there too. Just mention him because he talked with the team early on.

Wasn't Preston Williams that guy from a season ago who everyone was gaga over? If so, he faded this season... but, has immense talent.

(Could be a different player.)

[Born2Steel]

Kris Boyd is still there. College CB/NFL Safety.

[teegre]

*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

*David Sills, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri

Heck… why not:

Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

[SteelMember]

I think I may like Bell better... toss up

[Mojouw]

I will support ANY draft pick, UDFA, or other FA signing that prevents the 2019 Pittsburgh Steelers from seriously considering playing Jordan Dangerfield or Tyler Matakevich in meaningful snaps on defense.

So is there that guy left?

[teegre]

I think I may like Bell better... toss up

That pick is for DesertSteel. :yup:

We are... Marshall!!!

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[/B]
Both are better than what they picked

I know, right.

And... they met with Mack (which makes the Gentry pick all the more odd).

[Shoes]

I will support ANY draft pick, UDFA, or other FA signing that prevents the 2019 Pittsburgh Steelers from seriously considering playing Jordan Dangerfield or Tyler Matakevich in meaningful snaps on defense.

So is there that guy left?

:lol:

[teegre]

4 picks to go...

[Born2Steel]

Who is that diamond in the rough?

[SteelMember]

3...

[teegre]

Who is that diamond in the rough?

Caleb Wilson

He was injured, and did not return to form. It is a gamble, but if he gets back to 90% of where he was, he'd be our #2 for a decade. "If" he gets back to 100%, we'd have our starter.

[polamalubeast]

The steelers need a kicker!

[teegre]

That said, there is little-to-no chance that we draft another TE.

[Shoes]

Caleb Wilson

He was injured, and did not return to form. It is a gamble, but if he gets back to 90% of where he was, he'd be our #2 for a decade. "If" he gets back to 100%, we'd have our starter.

Worth the pick IMO

[teegre]

Maybe we go with Beau Bqfwuwfjhvdhjbdhbd, OG/C.

[SteelMember]

Lots of guards in the conversation...

[Shoes]

That said, there is little-to-no chance that we draft another TE.

Agreed and they didn't draft one this year either. :chuckle:

[SteelMember]

Maybe we go with Beau Bqfwuwfjhvdhjbdhbd, OG/C.

That would be one... lol

[teegre]

Worth the pick IMO

You know what... after Vance, there is no one. Grimble is far from "safe". So, yea, let's draft Caleb!!!

[Born2Steel]

Malik Gant, Mike Bell, Kris Boyd, David Sills, Kelvin Harmon, Jalen Jelks, all ok with me here.

[teegre]

Agreed and they didn't draft one this year either. :chuckle:

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Ulysees visited.

[SteelMember]

There's the other MAC player...

[polamalubeast]

another LB

[Mojouw]

So much for Colbert's love affair with production/starts at Power 5 conferences.

[Shoes]

another LB

Butler will really be confused this year. Probably have to have name tags on all the players.

[teegre]

There's the other MAC player...

:lol: I know, right.

He visited. I know nothing about him, except that he misspelled Ulysses.

[polamalubeast]

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[SteelMember]

11 to go before we get our backup swing guard... :chuckle:

[Mojouw]

Leaked Picture of Kevin Colbert making sure the Steelers have enough athletic linebackers:

https://cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/768290368805404672/1240/10/scaletowidth

[teegre]

Leaked Picture of Kevin Colbert making sure the Steelers have enough athletic linebackers:

https://cdn.thinglink.me/api/image/768290368805404672/1240/10/scaletowidth

Holy crap!!! :toofunny: O...M...G!!!

[polamalubeast]

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[Born2Steel]

Posted this in the wrong thread earlier. Devin Bush, Sutton Smith, Ulysees Gilbert....The theme of this draft is under-sized LBs.

[stillers4me]

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[Mojouw]

Maybe Colbert's gonna go Dr. Victor Frankenstein here and assemble 2 uber linebackers from the parts of all the other linebackers on the roster?

[teegre]

Maybe Colbert's gonna go Dr. Victor Frankenstein here and assemble 2 uber linebackers from the parts of all the other linebackers on the roster?

:applaudit:

[Shoes]

Steelers take "Pittsburgh Dad" in R7





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Maybe Colbert's gonna go Dr. Victor Frankenstein here and assemble 2 uber linebackers from the parts of all the other linebackers on the roster?


:toofunny: :toofunny:

[teegre]

3 to go...

Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

*David Sills, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri

Heck… why not:

Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

Why stop now:

*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

[Born2Steel]

3 to go...

Malik Grant, S, Marshall
Mike Bell, S, Fresno

Jordan Wyatt, CB, SMU

*David Sills, WR, WVU
Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
Dillon Mitchell, WR, Oregon
Stanley Morgan, WR, Nebraska
Emanuel Hall, WR, Missouri

Heck… why not:

Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA
*Alize Mack, TE, Notre Dame

Why stop now:

*Jordan Brailford, OLB, Oklahoma St.
Jalen Jelks, OLB, Oregon
Kaden Elliss, OLB, Idaho (R7)

Honestly, my eyeball test favorite on that list is probably Jordan Wyatt. Stanley Morgan and Mike Bell close 2nds.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Kicker coming up ?

[teegre]

Kris Boyd is gone.

[SteelMember]

Okay, almost done. One to go...

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Pick is in...

[teegre]

Swing OG. Duh. I would have bet that they would have taken Brumfield.

[SteelMember]

Called a guard. Lol

Just not this OT transition

[Shoes]

Hopefully, some of the udfa will be better than some of these picks, starting with Gentry.

[teegre]

Hopefully, some of the udfa will be better than some of these picks, starting with Gentry.

Often, they are... because, the player gets to choose a place that is a "good fit".

[polamalubeast]

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[BlackAndGold]

Not sure how long Bostic will last with the Steelers.

[polamalubeast]

Not sure how long Bostic will last with the Steelers.

same for Tyler Matakevich

[BlackAndGold]

same for Tyler Matakevich

His special teams play keeps him around for another year.

[AtlantaDan]

Not sure how long Bostic will last with the Steelers.

Bostic is a $2.5 million cap hit on the roster - $700,000 in dead money bonus if cut

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/jon-bostic-12331/


same for Tyler Matakevich

Matakevich is a more cap friendly $735K cap hit, with a $15,764 ( :sofunny: ) dead money signing bonus if cut

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/tyler-matakevich-19200/

Ben Roethlisberger’s new three-year, $80 million contract (https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/04/24/ben-roethlisberger-contract-extension-steelers/stories/201904240102) will increase the hit on the Steelers’ salary cap in 2019 by $3 million.

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/04/26/ben-roethlisberger-contract-steelers-salary-cap-2019/stories/201904260151

Both in terms of personnel additions and needing to find some cash for Ben's new deal, in addition to the massive AB cap hit, Bostic is not in a secure spot