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Born2Steel
04-20-2019, 03:25 PM
1) Arizona - Kyler Murray QB Oklahoma
2) SF 49ers - Nick Bosa DE/OLB Ohio St
3) NY Jets - Josh Allen DE/OLB Kentucky
4) Oakland - Quinnen Williams DT/DE Alabama
5) Tampa Bay - Devin White ILB LSU
6) NY Giants - Jonah Williams OT Alabama
7) Jacksonville - Jawaan Taylor OT Florida

So who would go at number 8 to the Lions if the Steelers don't trade up to this spot?

Dwinsgames
04-20-2019, 03:43 PM
Lions LOVE pass catching TE's and could use an upgrade there , they could also use a #1 WR ....

so Metcalf or Hockenson but can never rule out a top flight corner when A. Rod is in your division

Born2Steel
04-20-2019, 03:56 PM
If the Lions go defense the value is at edge here. FSU's Burns and Clem's Ferrell are both available. If going pass catcher here there are Metcalf, Butler, and Hockenson that carry top10 value on some boards. If the Steelers were drafting at 8 they would probably take Devin Bush or maybe Brian Burns.

hawaiiansteeler
04-20-2019, 04:17 PM
Lions LOVE pass catching TE's and could use an upgrade there

Jesse James is offended :flap:

86WARD
04-20-2019, 04:30 PM
Lions LOVE pass catching TE's and could use an upgrade there , they could also use a #1 WR ....

so Metcalf or Hockenson but can never rule out a top flight corner when A. Rod is in your division

None of these WRs should go first round.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 04:39 PM
None of these WRs should go first round. Some team will reach on Metcalf because of his freakishness and happens every year on players like that. I remember TE Matt Jones was a huge reach for the Jags.

Born2Steel
04-20-2019, 04:43 PM
So you guys are thinking Metcalf could still be available when the Steelers pick at 20? That is an interesting way to look at it. If the Steelers don't trade up to the 8th spot then I don't think they will get Brian Burns though because I think the Lions will draft him at #8 overall.

hawaiiansteeler
04-20-2019, 04:49 PM
So you guys are thinking Metcalf could still be available when the Steelers pick at 20? That is an interesting way to look at it. If the Steelers don't trade up to the 8th spot then I don't think they will get Brian Burns though because I think the Lions will draft him at #8 overall.

Metcalf reminds me of David Boston, no thanks.

and I think Montez Sweat is a wildcard here, some teams reportedly have him completely off their draft board but he's a heckuva player.

Dwinsgames
04-20-2019, 04:51 PM
Some team will reach on Metcalf because of his freakishness and happens every year on players like that. I remember TE Matt Jones was a huge reach for the Jags.


he was a QB convert ( Arkansas I think ) was WR with the Jags .... they spent a ton of resources on him based on his 40 time

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Metcalf reminds me of David Boston, no thanks.

and I think Montez Sweat is a wildcard here, some teams reportedly have him completely off their draft board but he's a heckuva player.

Boston was one hell of a player for what 2 years ( and then the roids showed up and he was finished quickly after that )

Mojouw
04-20-2019, 05:05 PM
This is my favorite thing that has ever happened here.

Sweat is plummeting and reportedly has cancelled plans to attend the draft. (hint, hint, Colbert). So I think the Lions address other needs and go edge rusher with Ferell over Gary.

Born2Steel
04-20-2019, 05:12 PM
I think DK Metcalf has a ton of upside. His ceiling is as high as it gets. He may have a low floor if you think he's juicing but his size and speed are rare. Scouts compare him to Josh Gordon(without the drug test fails) and Damarius Thomas. I see him more like Julio Jones in that when he's out there he will demand doubles and still produce for big plays. But like Jones he will have games off to recuperate a couple times a season.(He didn't play a full season in college due to injury issues, like Jones). Taking Metcalf at 20 gives you an X receiver that is also a constant deep threat, plus you get that 5th year option. If he's physically spent after 4 you let him become a free agent. I'm not saying he should definitely be the choice at 20, but I would rather have him on my team than face him twice a year. (Although I like AJ Brown better of the 2)

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This is my favorite thing that has ever happened here.

Sweat is plummeting and reportedly has cancelled plans to attend the draft. (hint, hint, Colbert). So I think the Lions address other needs and go edge rusher with Ferell over Gary.

I had the Lions making Burns unavailable for the Steelers but I could be persuaded to vote Ferrell.

Mojouw
04-20-2019, 05:18 PM
I think DK Metcalf has a ton of upside. His ceiling is as high as it gets. He may have a low floor if you think he's juicing but his size and speed are rare. Scouts compare him to Josh Gordon(without the drug test fails) and Damarius Thomas. I see him more like Julio Jones in that when he's out there he will demand doubles and still produce for big plays. But like Jones he will have games off to recuperate a couple times a season.(He didn't play a full season in college due to injury issues, like Jones). Taking Metcalf at 20 gives you an X receiver that is also a constant deep threat, plus you get that 5th year option. If he's physically spent after 4 you let him become a free agent. I'm not saying he should definitely be the choice at 20, but I would rather have him on my team than face him twice a year. (Although I like AJ Brown better of the 2)

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I had the Lions making Burns unavailable for the Steelers but I could be persuaded to vote Ferrell.

I forgot that Burns was still available for the Steelers to trade up for. I think he would be the guy that would make the Lions GM put the phone down on Colbert and instead turn the card into the commissioner. Honestly, I think the Lions would rather have any of the 3 big name pass rushers left (Burns, Gary, Ferrell) than the Steelers 1st and 3rd round pick.

hawaiiansteeler
04-20-2019, 05:26 PM
I forgot that Burns was still available for the Steelers to trade up for. I think he would be the guy that would make the Lions GM put the phone down on Colbert and instead turn the card into the commissioner. Honestly, I think the Lions would rather have any of the 3 big name pass rushers left (Burns, Gary, Ferrell) than the Steelers 1st and 3rd round pick.

it would take our 1(20), 2(52) and 3(83) picks to move up to 1(8).

pczach
04-20-2019, 05:48 PM
it would take our 1(20), 2(52) and 3(83) picks to move up to 1(8).

Who would you want at #8?

hawaiiansteeler
04-20-2019, 05:50 PM
Who would you want at #8?

the only player I would consider it for would be Devin White if he were still available, but imo that price is too steep even for him.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 05:51 PM
he was a QB convert ( Arkansas I think ) was WR with the Jags .... they spent a ton of resources on him based on his 40 time

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Boston was one hell of a player for what 2 years ( and then the roids showed up and he was finished quickly after that ) Yea Jones turn out to be a huge bust and had off field issues after they drafted him As for Boston, he did have a few good years and remember cause I had him on my fantasy team. Yea he was into the Roids big time and even did the saving his blood then put it back in him later like Lance Armstrong.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 06:15 PM
As for Metcalf I never seen him play but what I read he sounds like a project and may have two huge games out of the year and very little production in others and just my opinion what I read. Also in my opinion after seeing his physique, He has to be having help and very rare to get that big and cut without. Knock on Boston was why he fizz out quick. He put to much muscular weight on his frame and his bones and joints couldn't handle it.

hawaiiansteeler
04-20-2019, 06:19 PM
As for Metcalf I never seen him play but what I read he sounds like a project and may have two huge games out of the year and very little production in others and just my opinion what I read. Also in my opinion after seeing his physique, He has to be having help and very rare to get that big and cut without. Knock on Boston was why he fizz out quick. He put to much muscular weight on his frame and his bones and joints couldn't handle it.

Injuries have ended two out of his three seasons at Ole Miss, this past season with a neck injury and his true freshman season with a broken foot.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 06:23 PM
Injuries have ended two out of his three seasons at Ole Miss, this past season with a neck injury and his true freshman season with a broken foot. That there is more then enough to be leery. Some team will still take a chance on him in the 1st though and again probably earlier then expected.

Shoes
04-20-2019, 06:33 PM
I can see the Lions taking Hock, he's a sure a thing The Lions haven't had much success at the TE position in past drafts.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 06:57 PM
I can see the Lions taking Hock, he's a sure a thing The Lions haven't had much success at the TE position in past drafts. Not saying the Lions will draft Metcalf but that is the perfect type team that will. Ain't going to do much next year and able to gamble on him.

Shoes
04-20-2019, 07:45 PM
Injuries have ended two out of his three seasons at Ole Miss, this past season with a neck injury and his true freshman season with a broken foot.

My gut feeling is his injury issues will follow him to the NFL.

pczach
04-20-2019, 08:26 PM
the only player I would consider it for would be Devin White if he were still available, but imo that price is too steep even for him.

I agree. White is who I would consider, but that is a lot to give up.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 09:00 PM
I agree. White is who I would consider, but that is a lot to give up.I wouldn't do it either and if White or Hock are still around in the teens, sure wouldn't take a ton to move up. Moving up into the top ten like that really only should be for a franchise QB or one missing piece that can can send a team over the hump to a title.

teegre
04-20-2019, 09:41 PM
I’d take Hockenson 100 times out of 100.

As Hawaii stared: DK Metcalf is David Boston, part II.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
04-20-2019, 10:04 PM
I’d take Hockenson 100 times out of 100.

As Hawaii stared: DK Metcalf is David Boston, part II. Unless he is the next Gronk not worth moving up in the top ten to get him IMO. If he is that next Heath and sounds more like what he will be, okay moving up in the teens to get him.

teegre
04-21-2019, 01:24 PM
Unless he is the next Gronk not worth moving up in the top ten to get him IMO. If he is that next Heath and sounds more like what he will be, okay moving up in the teens to get him.

1. We're talking abput pick #8 (Lions)... Metcalf vs. Hockenson.

2. Since you brought it up, if Hockenson drops anywhere near 15, I'd trade up for him.

2. I'd take another Heath Miller. :noidea: I loved that guy.