Antonio Brown got everything he wanted in trade to Raiders

[Shoes]

Ryan Clark



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y97G4bA0M8E

[DesertSteel]

Let's hope he has a Randy Moss (who was a better WR than AB) type of experience in Oakland...

[Dwinsgames]

Let's hope he has a Randy Moss (who was a better WR than AB) type of experience in Oakland...

could happen , Carr was rumored on the block 2 weeks ago ......

what happens when / if he and Brown do not get along ?

That will happen if the O-Line doesn't do well ( and they are not great ) time affects everything else ...

then who throws the ball to AB a rookie ? the backup ?

[steelerdude15]

could happen , Carr was rumored on the block 2 weeks ago ......

what happens when / if he and Brown do not get along ?

That will happen if the O-Line doesn't do well ( and they are not great ) time affects everything else ...

then who throws the ball to AB a rookie ? the backup ?

These are the exact thoughts I've had since the trade was announced. That's why its too early to say that AB won and got everything he wanted when those scenarios could happen starting this year. If those things happen, it might make the Steelers look like they won this trade.

[AtlantaDan]

could happen , Carr was rumored on the block 2 weeks ago ......

what happens when / if he and Brown do not get along ?

That will happen if the O-Line doesn't do well ( and they are not great ) time affects everything else ...

then who throws the ball to AB a rookie ? the backup ?

That assumes Gruden was doing more than an impulse buy with AB early in what allegedly is a long term rebuild

Not happy with your QB and shipped out a younger receiver along with an All Pro LB in his prime in 2018 but bring in a WR who has seen his best years in 2019

Not necessarily the best fit for a team missing more than one piece

AB got all he wanted while the Steelers did not and the Raiders may have regrets down the road

The Raiders are taking a huge risk in acquiring Antonio Brown but not for the reason you think

Given the money they paid and the draft capital sacrificed, the Raiders acquired Brown to be a 31-year-old No. 1 wide receiver. In today’s NFL, 31-year-old No. 1 wide receivers do not exist....

For him to remain great, he will have to defy a rigid aging curve.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/03/10/raiders-are-taking-huge-risk-acquiring-antonio-brown-not-reason-you-think/?utm_term=.7dd9ca117c5e

[Fire Goodell]

Raiders are gonna be on the short end once again, bank on it. Let's face it, AB isn't AB of 2-3 years ago, it was obvious to anyone watching him that he lost a step. Yes he'll still put up a few more 1000 yard seasons, but the days of him leading the league in yardage are over.

Not saying he's still not a good WR, but I think his days of being a top 3 WR are over. Let's see how he does with Carr throwing him the ball. And let's be honest, the Raiders have a lot of holes on that team, AB isn't gonna turn them into an instant contender. But AB doesn't care about that, as long as he gets his money and stats, he'll be happy. Look for Carr's INT's to go up because he has to force feed the baby to keep him happy.

[Fire Goodell]

I hope the Raiders also pick up and (over)pay Le'Veon Bell. Then watch the fireworks from a distance when they realize that a star WR and RB doesn't necessarily translate to postseason success. In their case, missing the playoffs entirely

[steelreserve]

Let's hope he has a Randy Moss (who was a better WR than AB) type of experience in Oakland...

What, you mean pout his way out of town, into another trade where the Raiders get fleeced by the Patriots, then go there and suddenly be a big-time #1 receiving threat again while the Raiders are still paying half his salary?

Sadly, I can see it happening exactly like that.

[zulater]

Give it time. He might have a good first year but the moment another receiver signs for a dime more than him he'll start derailing again. .

[AtlantaDan]

Raiders are gonna be on the short end once again, bank on it. Let's face it, AB isn't AB of 2-3 years ago, it was obvious to anyone watching him that he lost a step. Yes he'll still put up a few more 1000 yard seasons, but the days of him leading the league in yardage are over.

Not saying he's still not a good WR, but I think his days of being a top 3 WR are over. Let's see how he does with Carr throwing him the ball. And let's be honest, the Raiders have a lot of holes on that team, AB isn't gonna turn them into an instant contender. But AB doesn't care about that, as long as he gets his money and stats, he'll be happy. Look for Carr's INT's to go up because he has to force feed the baby to keep him happy.

Good breakdown by FiveThirty Eight on AB's mixed bag of stats in 2018 - bottom line is his best move last season was running go routes (which Carr is not particularly good at completing) while JuJu did the dirty work

According to Sports Info Solutions, Antonio Brown was exceptional on go routes last season, catching four touchdowns and accumulating 216 receiving yards on 15 targets on the route. Meanwhile, the Raiders were atrocious targeting go routes over the same period, with Carr throwing two interceptions on just nine attempts....

If we look at routes that the Raiders employed frequently and Brown did run more often in Pittsburgh, the new Oakland receiver doesn’t compare that favorably to the production offered by Oakland’s 2018 receiving corps. On slant routes — short patterns run across the middle of the field at an angle — his expected points added (EPA) per play relative to the Raiders’ receivers was pedestrian...

Brown was ineffective in the middle of the field in general in 2018, posting negative EPA on digs and posts — two other in-breaking routes. He increasingly ceded targets over the middle to Juju Smith-Schuster, who is bigger, younger and perhaps more eager to put his body on the line for a reception. With no guaranteed money in Brown’s contract, self-preservation could have been a contributing factor to his seeming unwillingness to catch balls over the middle last season. At least that’s what the Raiders are hoping is the case: The alternative — that Brown is declining and no longer able to produce over the middle — is slightly terrifying for a team that just made Brown the highest-paid receiver in the league.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/can-derek-carr-and-the-raiders-make-the-most-of-antonio-brown/

Not certain if AB will be any less tired of getting hit by going across the middle just because his $$$ are guaranteed :noidea:

[BnG_Hevn]

These are the exact thoughts I've had since the trade was announced. That's why its too early to say that AB won and got everything he wanted when those scenarios could happen starting this year. If those things happen, it might make the Steelers look like they won this trade.

All he wanted was the money, according to Clark, so he did win in his mind. Not caring about winning championships is a HUGE red flag IMO.

[BnG_Hevn]

What is the salary cap for AB this season? it was 22+ million, is that still on the books?

[steelreserve]

What is the salary cap for AB this season? it was 22+ million, is that still on the books?

We eat $21.2 million for the privilege of not having him on the roster, yes.