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st33lersguy
12-17-2018, 04:40 PM
After their big win, Steelers head down to Nawlins to take down the Saints

Saints will be a tougher team than the Pats especially on the road. Plus it will be interesting to see how they play after winning their Super Bowl last week

Fire Goodell
12-17-2018, 04:49 PM
31-21 Saints. Yeah we played a great game vs NE, but this is vs New Orleans in the dome. NO has only been held to under 30 at home once all season, so chances are Ben has to beat Brees in a shootout. Ben's track record in the dome isn't great, I'm hoping for a win but expecting a loss here.

AtlantaDan
12-17-2018, 04:49 PM
At least the Steelers will not be scoreboard watching since Ravens @Chargers is Saturday night

Given how this team likes to live on the edge I expect a focused effort only if the Ravens beat the Chargers - hard to see a team that lost on the road to Denver & Oakland winning in New Orleans

Saints open as 6&1/2 point favorites and Chargers are 4&1/2 point favorites

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Saints 34 - Steelers 24

Root hard for the Chargers

Mojouw
12-17-2018, 06:54 PM
Saints 35
Steelers 10

And it is never a close game.


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Hawkman
12-17-2018, 10:42 PM
I hope someone on defense watched the game tonight. Carolina had a great formula for keeping the Saints to a low score. If Carolina had any offense they would have won.

Psycho Ward 86
12-17-2018, 11:03 PM
31-27 Saints

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/17/upshot/nfl-playoff-trees-week-16.html#pit

Heres the best damn playoff scenario map anywhere. Even our most likely path to the playoff is anything but certain. Hopefully Lamar Jackson is forced into a shootout. Kid hasnt thrown for more than 178 yards in any of his 5 starts. Ravens still quietly own the league's #1 scoring and total defense, along with the #r passing and rushing defense

Lose to the Saints + Beat the Bengals + Chargers beat the Ravens = playoffs . i think were in for a nail biter with this scenario

AtlantaDan
12-17-2018, 11:17 PM
31-27 Saints

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/12/17/upshot/nfl-playoff-trees-week-16.html#pit

Heres the best damn playoff scenario map anywhere. Even our most likely path to the playoff is anything but certain. Hopefully Lamar Jackson is forced into a shootout. Kid hasnt thrown for more than 178 yards in any of his 5 starts. Ravens still quietly own the league's #1 scoring and total defense, along with the #r passing and rushing defense

Lose to the Saints + Beat the Bengals + Chargers beat the Ravens = playoffs . i think were in for a nail biter with this scenario

After the Chargers loss at Heinz I thought that would probably be the endgame, although I thought 9-6-1 might get a wildcard until the Colts beat the Texans. Of course I assumed a win over the Raiders and Pats loss to get there

Chargers should be motivated Saturday night since they still have a real shot at the #1 seed. But if the Ravens split with Chargers and Chiefs on the road while the Steelers went 0-2 at home against those teams as part of going 0-4 against the AFC West the Ravens deserve to win the division

Fire Goodell
12-17-2018, 11:18 PM
I hope someone on defense watched the game tonight. Carolina had a great formula for keeping the Saints to a low score. If Carolina had any offense they would have won.

A big part of their formula was make them play outside, we won't have that option sunday unfortunately lol

cold-hard-steel
12-18-2018, 06:45 AM
31-21 Saints. Yeah we played a great game vs NE, but this is vs New Orleans in the dome. NO has only been held to under 30 at home once all season, so chances are Ben has to beat Brees in a shootout. Ben's track record in the dome isn't great, I'm hoping for a win but expecting a loss here.

And just what is Bens track record in "the dome"?

AtlantaDan
12-18-2018, 07:04 AM
And just what is Bens track record in "the dome"?

12-6/28 TD/12 INT/103 rating - no surprise stats indoors are better than playing outside at Heinz and other AFC North sites when weather gets bad

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/8d6q5z/dome_sweet_dome_indoor_vs_outdoor_qb_stats/

Game by game breakdown through 2016 season - includes games against some bad Colts, Lions & Falcons teams

https://steelersdepot.com/2016/11/dome-sweet-dome-steelers-qb-ben-roethlisberger/

EzraTank
12-18-2018, 09:21 AM
I hope someone on defense watched the game tonight. Carolina had a great formula for keeping the Saints to a low score. If Carolina had any offense they would have won.

The Saints have been held down the past few weeks by average teams which means we should be able to do the same. We need to keep the ball for long clock eating drives and finish those drives with Ben throwing to his teammates for 7 points.

Just like Brady if you pressure Brees he is human.

We will already know if the Ravens won or not by the game since they play Saturday night. If the Chargers beat the Ravens then a win wraps up the division for us! If the Ravens win and we lose then the Ravens control their own destiny and close the season at home against the Browns which means we probably don't make the playoffs.

Even if we lose this week and beat the Bengals to finish 9-5-1 we HAVE to win the division because one of the Titans or Colts is going to finish 10-6 and probably be the #6 seed. The AFC could end up where the #5 & #6 seeds have better records then the #3/4 seeds. The Titans and Colts play Washington and the Giants this week then face off against each other (@Ten) on the final weekend which will probably be for the #6 spot.

So now those losses to Denver & Oakland are really going to haunt us.

cubanstogie
12-18-2018, 09:32 AM
I give the D credit last week as opposed to saying Brady and Gronk old and done. They have slowed down no doubt but basically shutting down Gronk is good for confidence in my book. Maybe the tutor they brought in worked and he will stay another week. Brees has been pretty bad they last 4 weeks, a pic in every game and only throwing for around 200 yds. Cam threw the ball awful from what I saw last night. I think Steelers move the ball easily and its a close game. Cleveland and the Ravens both played Saints tough so I see no reason Steeler don't get a win. Its basically a playoff game and it comes down to turnovers. Ben takes care of ball and Steelers win 31-29 Saints fail a 2 point conversion to tie.

Fire Goodell
12-18-2018, 09:58 AM
Stop Kamara and Ingram and double Cooks. If you can contain their running game and don't allow them to beat you deep then there's a chance. Brees gets a lot of headlines but honestly it's their 2 headed monster at RB that makes their offense click.

DesertSteel
12-18-2018, 10:32 AM
As someone said about the Chargers (v Ravens), they are due for a loss - so are the Saints. I can see the North going to the last game.

GBMelBlount
12-18-2018, 10:34 AM
At least the Steelers will not be scoreboard watching since Ravens @Chargers is Saturday night

Given how this team likes to live on the edge I expect a focused effort only if the Ravens beat the Chargers - hard to see a team that lost on the road to Denver & Oakland winning in New Orleans

Saints open as 6&1/2 point favorites and Chargers are 4&1/2 point favorites

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

Saints 34 - Steelers 24

Root hard for the Chargers

Agreed, however since we are big underdogs in this game, THAT may provide Ben and the team with the motivation to play inspired football.

Fire Goodell
12-18-2018, 10:41 AM
This team seems to just thrive on drama, it almost seemed as if the team lost their 'reason' to play after they proved they could win without Bell, and after his holdout was a done deal. Now with their backs against the wall, they come out swinging again. I just wished them getting the #1 seed was enough motivation to keep winning.

86WARD
12-18-2018, 10:46 AM
Steelers win 30-24. Steelers play fast and crisp on the turf in NO...

Ben, AB, JuJu, Conner/Samuels, Vance, Switzer, Eli >>>> Brees, Thomas, Kamara, Ingram.

Also, Payton is out coaching himself...if you watched last nights game, he’s trying too hard...

steel striker
12-18-2018, 11:19 AM
I think the Steelers win this 31-27 a close the offense comes alive and, the defense holds on as well.

CV1
12-18-2018, 11:31 AM
I had doubts against the Putz and we won [emoji23]

Ain'ts squeezed by a team we dominated, if that Steelers team shows up we will win...if the "I'll force throws in the Red Zone Ben" shows up, it's going to a long night.

And for the love of God... We need Boz of last year to make some fucking kicks... I can understand a miss from 45+ but never extra points or sub 35's.


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Fire Goodell
12-18-2018, 11:59 AM
And for the love of God... We need Boz of last year to make some fucking kicks... I can understand a miss from 45+ but never extra points or sub 35's.

Totally. It's the missed extra points and short kicks that get me irate. You know your kicker sucks when the crowd is cheering hard when we make an extra point as if we just scored another TD lol. At the NFL level anything 35 yards out and below should be automatic

DesertSteel
12-18-2018, 11:59 AM
Boz will end up costing us the Saints game or even worse he will cost us a playoff game. He leads the league in misses. Fans who think 2017 Boz is suddenly going to show up are fooling themselves.

And I don’t trust a coach who keeps Dobbs in because of game flow to make the right decision at kicker.

Shoes
12-18-2018, 12:26 PM
I expected the Steelers to lose the NE game and I expect them to lose in NO. The Saints didn't look very good last night, I mean I was falling asleep watching it. So just for the heck of it, I'm going to say the Steelers pull one out of their backside. No nail-biting for me on this one, I expect a loss but if they win great. :chuckle:

Steelers 38

Saints 35

AtlantaDan
12-18-2018, 12:32 PM
1075074381276200960

The Saints are working out (https://www.nola.com/saints/2018/12/saints-working-out-offensive-linemen-including-nick-becton-after-injuries-pile-up.html) a group of blockers today after finishing with the bare minimum last night against the Panthers.

Included in that group is offensive tackle Nick Becton, who was in camp with them in 2014 and 2015.

When center Max Unger (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5224/max-unger) left after suffering a concussion and replacement left tackle Jermon Bushrod (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4455/jermon-bushrod) was sidelined with a hamstring injury, the Saints used both their active backups (Cameron Tom (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/12474/cameron-tom) and Will Clapp (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/13341/will-clapp)). They were already without left tackle Terron Armstead (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8464/terron-armstead), as they have been the last five games.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/18/saints-working-out-offensive-linemen-today/

86WARD
12-18-2018, 02:18 PM
Boz will end up costing us the Saints game or even worse he will cost us a playoff game. He leads the league in misses. Fans who think 2017 Boz is suddenly going to show up are fooling themselves.

And I don’t trust a coach who keeps Dobbs in because of game flow to make the right decision at kicker.

This post is gay...

[emoji12]

Hawkman
12-18-2018, 03:28 PM
Boz will end up costing us the Saints game or even worse he will cost us a playoff game. He leads the league in misses. Fans who think 2017 Boz is suddenly going to show up are fooling themselves.

And I don’t trust a coach who keeps Dobbs in because of game flow to make the right decision at kicker.

You have made it clear in several threads how badly you want Boz outta here. It’s not going to happen, so let it go.

Rotorhead
12-18-2018, 03:45 PM
1075074381276200960

The Saints are working out (https://www.nola.com/saints/2018/12/saints-working-out-offensive-linemen-including-nick-becton-after-injuries-pile-up.html) a group of blockers today after finishing with the bare minimum last night against the Panthers.

Included in that group is offensive tackle Nick Becton, who was in camp with them in 2014 and 2015.

When center Max Unger (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5224/max-unger) left after suffering a concussion and replacement left tackle Jermon Bushrod (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4455/jermon-bushrod) was sidelined with a hamstring injury, the Saints used both their active backups (Cameron Tom (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/12474/cameron-tom) and Will Clapp (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/13341/will-clapp)). They were already without left tackle Terron Armstead (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8464/terron-armstead), as they have been the last five games.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/18/saints-working-out-offensive-linemen-today/


Well, we better get some pressure this game, 3rd string OL. Hope Heyward is ok.

st33lersguy
12-18-2018, 04:20 PM
I think Pittsburgh spent their energy beating New England and I'm not sure what they have left for New Orleans. Meanwhile I think Carolina, in desperation mode, took the Panthers best shot and still came away with a win. Hard to envision Ben not making at least 2 costly mistakes (i.e. throwing INTs). The Steelers offense scored 17 points at home against New England and their defense is worse than New Orleans. Also some guy named Daron Harmond picked off Ben twice. New Orleans on both sides of the ball is better than New England and they get them in the dome

steelcityboyz
12-18-2018, 04:52 PM
You have made it clear in several threads how badly you want Boz outta here. It’s not going to happen, so let it go.Although, it should happen, DesertSteel is absolutely right, Boz is going to cost us a game he's a liability to this team moving forward.

86WARD
12-18-2018, 04:53 PM
You have made it clear in several threads how badly you want Boz outta here. It’s not going to happen, so let it go.

If they lose by a FG or by 2 versus the Patriots, he’s cut Monday morning.

st33lersguy
12-18-2018, 04:55 PM
Although, it should happen, DesertSteel is absolutely right, Boz is going to cost us a game.

he already cost the team 2 games

86WARD
12-18-2018, 05:01 PM
I think Pittsburgh spent their energy beating New England and I'm not sure what they have left for New Orleans. Meanwhile I think Carolina, in desperation mode, took the Panthers best shot and still came away with a win. Hard to envision Ben not making at least 2 costly mistakes (i.e. throwing INTs). The Steelers offense scored 17 points at home against New England and their defense is worse than New Orleans. Also some guy named Daron Harmond picked off Ben twice. New Orleans on both sides of the ball is better than New England and they get them in the dome

I said that. My initial prediction after the Oakland loss was they would beat NE and then lose to NO and Cindy. NE was their Super Bowl.

My other scenario is that they go on a run and deep into the playoffs. All these teams are very, very beatable. None of these teams are as strong as they appeared to be in the middle of the season and on paper, talent-wise, the Steelers can go toe to toe with any of those teams on a personnel basis. Chicago is the only team that has a defense that is outrageously better than Pittsburgh and possibly the Rams.

It will come down to coaching, injuries and execution...and if these guys get their shit together, they can win it.

Shoes
12-18-2018, 05:03 PM
If they lose by a FG or by 2 versus the Patriots, he’s cut Monday morning.

Probably will, even if Ben throws two pick sixes.

DesertSteel
12-18-2018, 05:32 PM
You have made it clear in several threads how badly you want Boz outta here. It’s not going to happen, so let it go.
I’ll let you know when you have permission to control what I let go.

AtlantaDan
12-18-2018, 06:12 PM
Boz will end up costing us the Saints game or even worse he will cost us a playoff game. He leads the league in misses. Fans who think 2017 Boz is suddenly going to show up are fooling themselves.

And I don’t trust a coach who keeps Dobbs in because of game flow to make the right decision at kicker.

Radio Ben still believes in Boz :thumbsup:

When he went out for that last [48-yard made field goal], never once did I think, ‘Oh man, coach, we should either go for this or punt it. Don’t put Boz out there.’ Never once. “And I keep trying to tell him that. Like, ‘Boz, we believe in you. I believe in you. Make sure you believe in yourself, and don’t get down on yourself and doubt yourself, because none of us do.’ So when he went out there, I assumed he was gonna make it, and he did. And so that’s the confidence we have in him.”

Ben Roethlisberger believes in you, too! Merry Christmas!

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/sean-gentille/2018/12/18/ben-roethlisberger-ian-rapoport-steelers-patriots-ribs-injury/stories/201812180097

Unlike Ben, when Boz went out to attempt the 48 yard FG I texted that the Steelers should go for it or punt :chuckle:

DesertSteel
12-18-2018, 06:47 PM
Thanks AD! That gave me the warm fuzzies!!!

AtlantaDan
12-19-2018, 03:08 PM
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No surprise that it is taking time to come back from what I assume is the dreaded high ankle sprain

Hopefully Conner can be ready in 2 weeks if there is anything he needs to be ready for in 2 weeks

fansince'76
12-19-2018, 03:27 PM
Let's see - Roethlisberger says something critical of a teammate and gets mocked. He says something supportive of a teammate and gets mocked.

Can't wait until we have another two-decades-or-so string of journeyman (at best) QBs who at least observe radio silence...

DesertSteel
12-19-2018, 03:43 PM
Let's see - Roethlisberger says something critical of a teammate and gets mocked. He says something supportive of a teammate and gets mocked.

Can't wait until we have another two-decades-or-so string of journeyman (at best) QBs who at least observe radio silence...
That's a wooden way to look at it. Ben's problem is that he lacks EQ on when to say what. I have no problem with him supporting Boz, even though I'd prefer him to be cut. I further don't get the fans who think you have to support a player 100% of the time, both on and off the field, or you're a hater. Ben is a HOF QB and I value that. I can be critical of his off the field behavior (past) and comments (present) and still like him as a player. It's hard to understand how people can't differentiate the two...

fansince'76
12-19-2018, 03:47 PM
That's a wooden way to look at it. Ben's problem is that he lacks EQ on when to say what. I have no problem with him supporting Boz, even though I'd prefer him to be cut. I further don't get the fans who think you have to support a player 100% of the time, both on and off the field, or you're a hater. Ben is a HOF QB and I value that. I can be critical of his off the field behavior (past) and comments (present) and still like him as a player. It's hard to understand how people can't differentiate the two...

I get the criticism for the Milledgeville incident, but the constant hand-wringing about stuff he says on a radio show? Honestly, who cares?

pczach
12-19-2018, 04:31 PM
I get the criticism for the Milledgeville incident, but the constant hand-wringing about stuff he says on a radio show? Honestly, who cares?



Oh look....It's "Radio fansince'76".

I never know what that guy is going say, but I'm sure it's inappropriate and bad for the team. :flap:


Do you think there's a "Radio Aaron Rodgers"?....or maybe a "Social Media AB"?

No...that's right....there's only a "Radio Ben"....got it.

AtlantaDan
12-19-2018, 04:36 PM
I get the criticism for the Milledgeville incident, but the constant hand-wringing about stuff he says on a radio show? Honestly, who cares?

Because of technology that can pinpoint what people online are viewing and commenting on, how much time they spend with an article and even how much money an article makes in advertising revenue, newspapers can make more scientific decisions about allocating their ever scarcer resources.

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/06/business/media/06track.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

Maybe the Post-Gazette's readership should focus instead on articles about more weighty matters like whether interest rates should be raised, but if its online readers did not care the Post-Gazette would quit publishing a weekly story on what Ben says on his radio show. So apparently I am not the only one reading these summaries.

Since Ben can randomly be both a vengeful and merciful dispenser of player assessments, a sarcastic approach by the P-G writer in passing along these Tuesday morning nuggets that are of no long term significance but something to fill in the time between games seems about right to me.



Do you think there's a "Radio Aaron Rodgers"?....or maybe a "Social Media AB"?

No...that's right....there's only a "Radio Ben"....got it.

I may seek a trademark for that, in which case all future references should please be to Radio Ben® http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/images/smilies/flap.gif

I am certain if you went to a Packers board this season there would be posters criticizing Rodgers for going public with his frustrations as well while making his own screwups. If I was a Packers fan and posted on one I would be criticizing Rodgers just as I have criticized AB here repeatedly for being a jackass.

:drink:

DesertSteel
12-19-2018, 05:40 PM
I get the criticism for the Milledgeville incident, but the constant hand-wringing about stuff he says on a radio show? Honestly, who cares?
Well he obviously does the radio show for entertainment purposes. These aren't league mandated interviews. So he's putting himself out there and saying things that are inflammatory in some cases. I don't get why you think people wouldn't react when he's doing it to get reactions.

GBMelBlount
12-19-2018, 05:56 PM
Well he obviously does the radio show for entertainment purposes. These aren't league mandated interviews. So he's putting himself out there and saying things that are inflammatory in some cases.

I don't get why you think people wouldn't react when he's doing it to get reactions.

Who says he is only doing it to get reactions?

No chance he is simply trying to be real and accessible with regard to Steelers fans?

If I was in his position I would love to talk about all things Steelers.

86WARD
12-19-2018, 06:03 PM
Let's see - Roethlisberger says something critical of a teammate and gets mocked. He says something supportive of a teammate and gets mocked.

Can't wait until we have another two-decades-or-so string of journeyman (at best) QBs who at least observe radio silence...

Lol. Never a truer statement has been made...

HollywoodSteel
12-19-2018, 06:08 PM
Well he obviously does the radio show for entertainment purposes. These aren't league mandated interviews. So he's putting himself out there and saying things that are inflammatory in some cases. I don't get why you think people wouldn't react when he's doing it to get reactions.

I think you’re exactly right. I also kind of agree with, what I believe is, the spirit of Fansince ‘76’s comment, in that Ben’s radio comments don’t particularly bother me. I think when FS76 says “who cares?” he isn’t literally asking how many people care. I’m sure FS76 understands that many people care, but believes that no one SHOULD care.

I do “care” what Ben says because it’s usually informative or entertaining, or both.

Since Ben criticized Washington publicly, Washington seems to have risen to the challenge. Ben publicly treats James Conner differently - without criticism, but encouragement - which leads me to believe that Ben has a pretty good idea how best to psychologically motivate his teammates.

I’ll give Ben the benefit of the doubt that he is handling Boz in the best possible way in order to get maximum productivity from his kicker.

I like being privy to this kind of stuff, and I don’t think ANY of Ben’s public comments have ever made his team play worse. Could I be wrong about that? Sure. But based on the limited results I’ve seen - understanding that correlation and causation are difficult to determine here - I’ll go on giving Ben the benefit of the doubt, and I’ll continue eating my popcorn as I continue to care about what he says on the radio.

GBMelBlount
12-19-2018, 06:17 PM
I think you’re exactly right. I also kind of agree with, what I believe is, the spirit of Fansince ‘76’s comment, in that Ben’s radio comments don’t particularly bother me. I think when FS76 says “who cares?” he isn’t literally asking how many people care. I’m sure FS76 understands that many people care, but believes that no one SHOULD care.

I do “care” what Ben says because it’s usually informative or entertaining, or both.

Since Ben criticized Washington publicly, Washington seems to have risen to the challenge. Ben publicly treats James Conner differently - without criticism, but encouragement - which leads me to believe that Ben has a pretty good idea how best to psychologically motivate his teammates.

I’ll give Ben the benefit of the doubt that he is handling Boz in the best possible way in order to get maximum productivity from his kicker.

I like being privy to this kind of stuff, and I don’t think ANY of Ben’s public comments have ever made his team play worse. Could I be wrong about that? Sure. But based on the limited results I’ve seen - understanding that correlation and causation are difficult to determine here - I’ll go on giving Ben the benefit of the doubt, and I’ll continue eating my popcorn as I continue to care about what he says on the radio.

Great post.

A great coach (or mentor) knows how to motivate individually.

HollywoodSteel
12-19-2018, 06:18 PM
Who says he is only doing it to get reactions?

No chance he is simply trying to be real and accessible with regard to Steelers fans?

If I was in his position I would love to talk about all things Steelers.

I don’t see the contradiction between your comment and DesertSteel’s comment.

I think it’s entertaining to hear about the Steelers and talk about the Steelers.

While I think Ben isn’t STRICTLY trying to entertain, the point of the radio program (and the NFL in general) is to entertain.

And I appreciate that Ben does often take the opportunity to be real and accessible. I also appreciate the psychological strategy he seems to employ when discussing his teammates. He uses a combination of praise and criticism, depending on what Ben thinks will work best with different teammates at different times, in order to motivate them.

It’s all well worth being interested in and commenting on.

EDIT: to be clear, when I agree that Ben does use it get “reactions” I don’t mean he’s trying to stir up the fan base to stir them up. I think he mostly wants reactions from the teammates he’s commenting on, while definitely giving the fans something worth hearing about the team.

My greater point is that I don’t really think we are all in much disagreement about it. It’s more semantics. Some might think Ben should be criticized for some of his words, and I’m interested in hearing that criticism too.

Born2Steel
12-19-2018, 07:15 PM
Somebody needs to make a thread that talks about the Steelers vs the Saints this week.

Hawkman
12-19-2018, 07:56 PM
Somebody needs to make a thread that talks about the Steelers vs the Saints this week.

Word!

pczach
12-19-2018, 08:42 PM
Somebody needs to make a thread that talks about the Steelers vs the Saints this week.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sSkH9w_26c

DesertSteel
12-19-2018, 09:49 PM
Who says he is only doing it to get reactions?

No chance he is simply trying to be real and accessible with regard to Steelers fans?

If I was in his position I would love to talk about all things Steelers.

I don't really see that as being mutually exclusive. Nor do I think that doing something for entertainment and reactions is a bad thing. It is what it is and it gets the reactions that it gets. If it bothered Ben he'd stop doing it. I just don't get why people here get so uptight about other people having opinions about it...

HollywoodSteel
12-19-2018, 11:12 PM
I don't really see that as being mutually exclusive. Nor do I think that doing something for entertainment and reactions is a bad thing. It is what it is and it gets the reactions that it gets. If it bothered Ben he'd stop doing it. I just don't get why people here get so uptight about other people having opinions about it...

I agree, but I also think silly arguments can start here based solely on the wording, rather than the substance of the comments.

For example, if you give your opinion about Ben’s statements - let’s say your opinion is critical of Ben - and someone else does not agree that your criticism is correct, that’s totally fair and worth discussing.

It’s only when people use terms “who cares if Ben...” or “let it go” or anything else that can be inferred as a personal invalidation of the commenter rather than a polite disagreement with the specific criticism, that totally avoidable arguments take place.

My own personal approach, when responding to someone’s comment, is to at least TRY to only address the substance of the comment, and even go so far as to look for common ground in our opinions - and there will ALWAYS be some common ground. I think I’m way more likely to get an interesting and thoughtful response back when the other person realizes that I’m interested in their opinion, and not at all interested in “winning” a debate.

Another thing I like to remind myself when engaging with other commenters here is that I’d much rather learn something than teach something. I’m happy to share my perspective, and maybe get someone to consider a point of view they might otherwise not have thought of, but more times than not, I’m the one who comes away with more knowledge and a better perspective about something Steelers related.

But I’m not saying I want a bunch of mini-mes on this board. I enjoy the different personalities and styles of commenting that I find here.

So... carry on. And thank you all for being yinz (sorry if my syntax is incorrect. I’m from L.A. and am not totally fluid in Yinzer). ����

DesertSteel
12-20-2018, 09:55 AM
Watching the Saints on Monday definitely gave me reason for optimism. For sure, I don't see a blowout. If the Steelers take care of the ball (Ben) and can get at least one takeaway, I think they sneak out with a W.

Mojouw
12-20-2018, 02:41 PM
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2018/film-room-saints-offense

Details of the Saints recent offensive slow-down here

Motivation2k12
12-20-2018, 03:34 PM
Just got a notification that Ted Ginn Jr is back for them and the games he has played this season. Theyve scored 35 + . he will create a big problem for us. Because his speed can take the top off of a defense and creates more room for michael thomas and kamara to operate

86WARD
12-20-2018, 03:35 PM
I don’t think it’s official that he’s returning though...where did you see it? He can create issues if he does return.

Motivation2k12
12-20-2018, 03:36 PM
I dont even compare the saints on the road vs at home. Because they look like 2 different teams. They are a different animal at home.

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I don’t think it’s official that he’s returning though...where did you see it? He can create issues if he does return.

Its official
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.canalstreetchronicles.com/platform/amp/2018/12/19/18149165/saints-steelers-first-report-ted-ginn-jr-returns-practice-drew-brees-ben-roethlisberger-nfl-mvp

Lady Steel
12-21-2018, 04:31 PM
I love Radio Ben. :lol: Some people "get" Ben, and others don't or just don't care for what he has to say sometimes, and that's okay. :)


Anyway, what Saints' fans are saying...


https://www.reddit.com/r/Saints/comments/a7jso1/week_16_gameday_info_steelers_saints/


https://saintsreport.com/forums/saints-super-forum-main-board.2/


http://blackandgold.com/saints/


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/new-orleans-saints/

pczach
12-21-2018, 06:25 PM
I may seek a trademark for that, in which case all future references should please be to Radio Ben® :flap:

I am certain if you went to a Packers board this season there would be posters criticizing Rodgers for going public with his frustrations as well while making his own screwups. If I was a Packers fan and posted on one I would be criticizing Rodgers just as I have criticized AB here repeatedly for being a jackass.

:drink:



Somehow I doubt that.

The real question is whether you would give anyone else a snappy derogatory nickname to go along with any criticism you dish out? :chuckle:

Rotorhead
12-22-2018, 10:34 PM
Well, this is now a must win, hoping the food Steelers def shows up tomorrow

Fire Goodell
12-23-2018, 12:12 AM
Well, this is now a must win, hoping the food Steelers def shows up tomorrow

Maybe casey hampton will show up for the game? :chuckle:
https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/001/584/411/86370343_crop_exact.jpg?w=1200&h=1200&q=75

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
12-23-2018, 05:05 AM
He looks like he is staring at a Chinese buffet bar waiting for them to replenish the General Tso's chicken.

Ps. side note and seen a documentary and General Tso's was a fictional character and never made chicken. Or was General.

86WARD
12-23-2018, 05:56 AM
I would say it was fun while it lasted but this season hasn’t really been that fun...

stillers4me
12-23-2018, 08:05 AM
Did the outside help that was brought in to help prepare of the Pats* game stick around to help this week??????

SteelMayhem72
12-23-2018, 09:53 AM
Did the outside help that was brought in to help prepare of the Pats* game stick around to help this week??????I doubt it, that game against the pats was our super bowl, now we won't even make the playoffs

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86WARD
12-23-2018, 02:39 PM
I doubt it, that game against the pats was our super bowl, now we won't even make the playoffs

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thats what i said i was afraid of before that game...lol

Hawkman
12-23-2018, 06:54 PM
Yep. Fire everyone. JuJu sucks. Nobody is prepared. Goodnight........The Steelers played their asses off.

Lady Steel
12-23-2018, 06:55 PM
Yep. Fire everyone. JuJu sucks. Nobody is prepared. Goodnight........The Steelers played their asses off.


They sure did. This loss is devastating for JuJu. I feel so badly for him.

EzraTank
12-23-2018, 06:57 PM
We had them beat in their house then gift them two fumbles when we're in field goal range.

We need to fix our defense. I give Ben 2 more years tops.

dislocatedday
12-23-2018, 06:58 PM
What a crushing end to the season if this is it (barring Baltimore losing to Cleveland at home next weekend). It was a lot of things that added up to this team being in this position.........bad untimely turnovers (like today), bad coaching decisions and challenges, bad play calling for stretches at times, too many penalties, not taking care of business against clearly inferior teams, and bad officiating also factored in to it (see today and the Chargers game for game-altering poor calls by the refs).

The team played great overall today, but again, turnovers in the 4th quarter doomed us, with Ridley's being the most egregious. Smith-Schuster's last minute fumble was somewhat bad luck as he landed on top of a guy instead of touching the turf.

Mach1
12-23-2018, 06:59 PM
What a crushing end to the season if this is it (barring Baltimore losing to Cleveland at home next weekend). It was a lot of things that added up to this team being in this position.........bad untimely turnovers (like today), bad coaching decisions and challenges, bad play calling for stretches at times, too many penalties, not taking care of business against clearly inferior teams, and bad officiating also factored in to it (see today and the Chargers game for game-altering poor calls by the refs).

The team played great overall today, but again, turnovers in the 4th quarter doomed us, with Ridley's being the most egregious. Smith-Schuster's last minute fumble was somewhat bad luck as he landed on top of a guy instead of touching the turf.

Funny how most of that is poor coaching.

EzraTank
12-23-2018, 07:04 PM
What a crushing end to the season if this is it (barring Baltimore losing to Cleveland at home next weekend). It was a lot of things that added up to this team being in this position.........bad untimely turnovers (like today), bad coaching decisions and challenges, bad play calling for stretches at times, too many penalties, not taking care of business against clearly inferior teams, and bad officiating also factored in to it (see today and the Chargers game for game-altering poor calls by the refs).

The team played great overall today, but again, turnovers in the 4th quarter doomed us, with Ridley's being the most egregious. Smith-Schuster's last minute fumble was somewhat bad luck as he landed on top of a guy instead of touching the turf.

This teams is in this position because of opening day and the Raiders loss. You simply cannot tie the Browns and lose to a 2-10 team.

Lady Steel
12-23-2018, 08:04 PM
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12-23-2018, 08:50 PM
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86WARD
12-23-2018, 09:00 PM
FG attempt?

Shoes
12-23-2018, 09:03 PM
FG attempt?

he needs a drug test