Pats Victory Gameballs 'n Goats

[GoSlash27]

Joe Haden was a beast tonight! He gets my game ball.

[Neversatisfied]

Jalen Samuels.

[BlackAndGold]

Lets fucking go!!!!

Finally!!!

[lipps83]

Samuels. Big game.

Should take some more money out of Bell's pockets too.

Defense stepped it up despite Butler trying to lose the game.

Good game overall.

No goats.

[Rotorhead]

The entire team for game ball, even Boz cause he made it when it counted

No goats today

[stillers4me]

We beat the Patriots*! Everybody gets a game ball!!!

[GoSlash27]

Well... Artie Burns still gets a goat from me.

[EzraTank]

Samuels on the offensive side, Haden on the defensive side.

I'm glad I picked up Samuels (and Damien Williams), he just pushed me into my FF final next week!

[Shoes]

Well... Artie Burns still gets a goat from me.

Did he play, I missed parts of the game?

[Steelerchad]

Samuels on Offense and Haden on Defense.

[steelreserve]

Samuels on offense, Haden on defense.

Secondary mention to the offensive line for the assist to Samuels, and most importantly NO PENALTIES that affected anything.

If there is any goat, it would be Boswell.

[GoSlash27]

Did he play, I missed parts of the game?

I guess it depends on how you define "play". He was on the field in the 1st. Immediately blew 2 coverages, 1 for a huge TD.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Honorable mention for Washington as well.

[FrancoLambert]

Game Ball: Samuels
Goat: Burns

Gut check game ball to Boz. Making the long one after missing the short one.

[Craic]

Everyone gets a game ball but there are some special mentions.

Defense. Everyone from Butler on down to the water boy. They held Tom Brady to one TD and that was on a busted coverage. They stopped him twice in the red zone (three times?). Gronk caught two balls for 21 yards. No Patriot receiver or rusher went over one hundred yards.

Specifics: Haden played a great game, as did Hilton (though quietly). One of the things that changed the outcome today was Watts's motor. He kept coming and coming and it caused disruption, even if he only had one sack.

Washington. To come in on a big game and make a catch like that? Not to mention his breaking that tackle . . . He also gained the most yards of any receiver. This may have been the JuJu-game he needed.

JuJu just had another solid game as did Brown. They were quiet, but when needed they stepped up.

Jaylon Samuels. 142 yards rushing. 7.5 rushing average. :jawdrop2: We also have to hand it to the OC for those misdirection plays, pitching it right and then running left. Dang.

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HM. Tony Romo and Jim Nance. I usually can't stand the commentary. Today, I thought it was great. They played it down the middle and actually added to the experience of watching the game. I don't think that's happened for me since I don't know when.

[GoSlash27]

Correction: Tomlin says in his PC that the blown TD coverage wasn't Burns' fault, but rather his personally.

[86WARD]

Game Balls: Joe Haden, TJ Watt, Jaylen Samuels, Eli Rogers

Goats: Boz, Coaching. Coaching is outrageously bad...

[Iron Steeler]

Jaylen Samuel! Hero for sure .

All the wide outs stepped big at some moment.

Goat, i feel bad but Boswell.

[cubanstogie]

Samuels fore sure. He looked really fast tonight. Like the way he took care of football.

Whole D, they held Marsha to 3 after first drive. Pretty amazing.

[GoSlash27]

Defense. Everyone from Butler on down to the water boy. They held Tom Brady to one TD and that was on a busted coverage. They stopped him twice in the red zone (three times?). Gronk caught two balls for 21 yards. No Patriot receiver or rusher went over one hundred yards.

Really, I see that more as the Pats shutting themselves down. A lot of penalties that put them behind the sticks, and a lot of dropped passes. We did get key plays from multiple defenders, tho'. I'll take the W.

[cubanstogie]

Boz's 48 yarder got him out of the doghouse. Had he missed that Pats have ball at 38 yd line instead of 25. Not to mention the security of going up by 7.

[Craic]

Game Balls: Joe Haden, TJ Watt, Jaylen Samuels, Eli Rogers

Goats: Boz, Coaching. Coaching is outrageously bad...

???? Coaching?

You mean the coaching that held the Patriots* to seven points? The coaching that had run plays that literally tricked every single defensive player but one? I can think of three bad plays. The blown coverage, which Tomlin says was his fault. And, the two zone coverage plays at the very end of the game that allows the Pats* to drive. Other than that, this game was very well coached. Brady and Belicheat* got them once with a quick change and quick snap. That's all. That means adjustments were made on the fly and issues fixed.

Unless you expect perfection, I really don't get how you can label the coaches goats today.

[cubanstogie]

Really, I see that more as the Pats shutting themselves down. A lot of penalties that put them behind the sticks, and a lot of dropped passes. We did get key plays from multiple defenders, tho'. I'll take the W.
True but they shut down Gronk. They've never done that before. Constant pressure, Burnett was only out of place a couple of times that I remember and tackling was much better.

[Craic]

Really, I see that more as the Pats shutting themselves down. A lot of penalties that put them behind the sticks, and a lot of dropped passes. We did get key plays from multiple defenders, tho'. I'll take the W.

Three dropped passes. Yeah, those hurt, but one of them I think was actually tipped by a Steelers defender although nothing was made of it. The penalties were almost all pre-snap motion penalties because the Steelers were getting off the ball fast. Those are forced errors, IMO, and can be attributed to the defense.

[Shoes]

I guess it depends on how you define "play". He was on the field in the 1st. Immediately blew 2 coverages, 1 for a huge TD.

:lol: Not surprised, but I missed that.

[fansince'76]

Really, I see that more as the Pats shutting themselves down. A lot of penalties that put them behind the sticks, and a lot of dropped passes. We did get key plays from multiple defenders, tho'. I'll take the W.

This. The problem with games like this is that the bad stuff gets masked. I still want a major shakeup in the defensive coaching at the end of the season (at a minimum), and now it probably won't happen.

[Shoes]

This. The problem with games like this is that the bad stuff gets masked. I still want a major shakeup in the defensive coaching at the end of the season (at a minimum), and now it probably won't happen.

Exactly and it's been masked for years.

[stillers4me]

The biggest loser ?

The Steelers Fan Who Bet $11K Against His Own Team in Sportsbook’s First Wager

[steelerdude15]

This. The problem with games like this is that the bad stuff gets masked. I still want a major shakeup in the defensive coaching at the end of the season, and now it probably won't happen.

Lets hope they make the right decision and hire new coaches.

[Craic]

This. The problem with games like this is that the bad stuff gets masked. I still want a major shakeup in the defensive coaching at the end of the season (at a minimum), and now it probably won't happen.

As do I. But I also want to know where the gameplan for shutting down Gronk came from. Whoever did that should stay or get hired.

[86WARD]

???? Coaching?

You mean the coaching that held the Patriots* to seven points? The coaching that had run plays that literally tricked every single defensive player but one? I can think of three bad plays. The blown coverage, which Tomlin says was his fault. And, the two zone coverage plays at the very end of the game that allows the Pats* to drive. Other than that, this game was very well coached. Brady and Belicheat* got them once with a quick change and quick snap. That's all. That means adjustments were made on the fly and issues fixed.

Unless you expect perfection, I really don't get how you can label the coaches goats today.

The coaches that waste challenges on calls that are clearly correct? The coaches that have no killer instinct? The coaches that can’t scheme to get the best WR in the league open? Sure he’s being double teamed...it’s funny how other teams can move their number one to the slot and work him open. Not here. The coaches that got schooled in time management at the end of the half? Maybe the coaches that run schemes that leave WRs run with no one with in a 10 yard radius? Or maybe the coaches that opt not to cover the safety valve receiver and the opposing QB literally runs through his progressions twice before deciding to dump to an open safety valve that still wasn’t covered? Coaching is far from satisfactory...lol. You can sit and spin it however you want but the coaching has been bad and it’s been bad all season. If not for a great play by Haden, this game may have ended a different way.

[Shoes]

As do I. But I also want to know where the gameplan for shutting down Gronk came from. Whoever did that should stay or get hired.

Gronk looks like he's done.

[Edman]

Jaylen Samuels was huge in the limited opportunities he had.

[fansince'76]

Gronk looks like he's done.

Brady looks like he's finally on the decline as well.

[NCSteeler]

???? Coaching?

You mean the coaching that held the Patriots* to seven points? The coaching that had run plays that literally tricked every single defensive player but one? I can think of three bad plays. The blown coverage, which Tomlin says was his fault. And, the two zone coverage plays at the very end of the game that allows the Pats* to drive. Other than that, this game was very well coached. Brady and Belicheat* got them once with a quick change and quick snap. That's all. That means adjustments were made on the fly and issues fixed.

Unless you expect perfection, I really don't get how you can label the coaches goats today.O give the coaches a pass this week, there were some bad moments but they seemed to finally have a plan on game day. I really hope this is a sign that Tomlin is taking more control over the defense

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[Steelerchad]

I have to say, I don't remember the last time I saw a Pats team make that many mistakes.
A lot of penalties, a bad red zone pick, and several dropped passes.

[Born2Steel]

Gameball to Tomlin for bringing in a position coach that helped us beat the Patriots.
Gameball to this defense for putting enough pressure on Brady to make him make some bad throws today.
Gameball to the OLBs for keeping everything up the middle.
Gameball for a good tackling day.

Goat to the announcers for bringing up the James catch about 50 times.
Goat to Boswell and his shitty leg.
Goat to all the negative fans that just knew we would lose today. :nono:

[fansince'76]

As do I. But I also want to know where the gameplan for shutting down Gronk came from. Whoever did that should stay or get hired.

I have a feeling it was probably Jim Herrmann.

[DesertSteel]

Game balls: Samuels, Washington and Haden.
Goats/Cut them: Burns and still Boswell (1 for 2 is not redemption).

[NCSteeler]

Gameball to Tomlin for bringing in a position coach that helped us beat the Patriots.
Gameball to this defense for putting enough pressure on Brady to make him make some bad throws today.
Gameball to the OLBs for keeping everything up the middle.
Gameball for a good tackling day.

Goat to the announcers for bringing up the James catch about 50 times.
Goat to Boswell and his shitty leg.
Goat to all the negative fans that just knew we would lose today. :nono:I'll take the goat and be happy. These Steelers gave me no reason to expect a win , but I'm always glad when they do. Years past I would always expect a win but this season has broke me.

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[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Gronk looks like he's done. Yep said that last week watching him stumble over himself trying to tackle the Miami guy. To many hits on him.

[DesertSteel]

Correction: Tomlin says in his PC that the blown TD coverage wasn't Burns' fault, but rather his personally.
12 men on the field? I didn’t see Tomlin our there.

[86WARD]

Gronk looks like he's done.

Yeah...wouldn’t be surprised if this was his last season. Quite a few teams have shut him down this year.

[tom444]

Brady looks like he's finally on the decline as well.

Gronk, who they tried to trade last summer, Brady, and Edelman have all fallen off. I'm surprised they made as much of a game of it as they did.

[Craic]

The coaches that waste challenges on calls that are clearly correct? The coaches that have no killer instinct? The coaches that can’t scheme to get the best WR in the league open? Sure he’s being double teamed...it’s funny how other teams can move their number one to the slot and work him open. Not here. The coaches that got schooled in time management at the end of the half? Maybe the coaches that run schemes that leave WRs run with no one with in a 10 yard radius? Or maybe the coaches that opt not to cover the safety valve receiver and the opposing QB literally runs through his progressions twice before deciding to dump to an open safety valve that still wasn’t covered? Coaching is far from satisfactory...lol. You can sit and spin it however you want but the coaching has been bad and it’s been bad all season. If not for a great play by Haden, this game may have ended a different way.

And what about the challenge when the ref mistakenly called the play did due to a whistle. It saved us a timeout because the ref then had to stop the game (which gave us time to change the subpackage). Yet, we didn't lose a timeout. Killer instinct? So, you wanted Ben, who has shown himself to throw bad INTs pretty regularly late in games to throw the ball rather than kill the clock (and by the way, killing the clock in the end won the game). Best WR open? everyone whines and complains that we feed the ball to Brown. How much more if we design the gameplan around Brown when we have JuJu as well? We had four or so r eceivers that all caught about the same number of passes today. Sorry, I just don't buy it. When you have the talent this team has, you let them take out one player with double and triple teams because it opens your almost as talented second receiver. When they take both, you hit your third receiver who, while just coming back, has historically been a very reliable receiver for us. I don't buy this reason at all. As for WRs running free. Yep. Of course, we're going to ignore the Pats* had to pull out every stop in their bag of tricks, and in the end, it still wasn't enough. That was a beautifully designed play on the TD by the Pats*. On the other open receiver, two of our players collided. Seriously (not snarky, really asking the question) have you watched much football outside of the Steelers this year? I've watched a little, but open receivers are more the rule than the exception anymore. It's part of the new NFL.

Talking about spinning it... you're taking perhaps the second or third best-coached game against the Patriots the Steelers have played since Brady and Belicheat* took over and somehow thinking it is a complete disaster because it wasn't perfect. Because they didn't play the way you or I wanted them to (ground out the clock vs. throwing, which I again remind you actually won the game in the end as the Pats had to play with a very short clock, which means rushing their plays and having no timeouts).

Sorry, but no. Last week's game? Sure. Week before that? Sure. Week before that? Yep. I'll even go with the win in Jax. But today? Not even close. You have unreal expectations for today's NFL if you think today's coaching job was horrible.

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I'll take the goat and be happy. These Steelers gave me no reason to expect a win , but I'm always glad when they do. Years past I would always expect a win but this season has broke me.

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Yep, I'm pretty much in the same camp. I fully expected a loss today.

[Fire Goodell]

Samuels game ball, goat Boz

[86WARD]

And what about the challenge when the ref mistakenly called the play did due to a whistle. It saved us a timeout because the ref then had to stop the game (which gave us time to change the subpackage). Yet, we didn't lose a timeout. Killer instinct? So, you wanted Ben, who has shown himself to throw bad INTs pretty regularly late in games to throw the ball rather than kill the clock (and by the way, killing the clock in the end won the game). Best WR open? everyone whines and complains that we feed the ball to Brown. How much more if we design the gameplan around Brown when we have JuJu as well? We had four or so r eceivers that all caught about the same number of passes today. Sorry, I just don't buy it. When you have the talent this team has, you let them take out one player with double and triple teams because it opens your almost as talented second receiver. When they take both, you hit your third receiver who, while just coming back, has historically been a very reliable receiver for us. I don't buy this reason at all. As for WRs running free. Yep. Of course, we're going to ignore the Pats* had to pull out every stop in their bag of tricks, and in the end, it still wasn't enough. That was a beautifully designed play on the TD by the Pats*. On the other open receiver, two of our players collided. Seriously (not snarky, really asking the question) have you watched much football outside of the Steelers this year? I've watched a little, but open receivers are more the rule than the exception anymore. It's part of the new NFL.

Talking about spinning it... you're taking perhaps the second or third best-coached game against the Patriots the Steelers have played since Brady and Belicheat* took over and somehow thinking it is a complete disaster because it wasn't perfect. Because they didn't play the way you or I wanted them to (ground out the clock vs. throwing, which I again remind you actually won the game in the end as the Pats had to play with a very short clock, which means rushing their plays and having no timeouts).

Sorry, but no. Last week's game? Sure. Week before that? Sure. Week before that? Yep. I'll even go with the win in Jax. But today? Not even close. You have unreal expectations for today's NFL if you think today's coaching job was horrible.

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Yep, I'm pretty much in the same camp. I fully expected a loss today.

Yes. Steelers coaching is horrible. Including today. That game should’ve been won by 10-14 points more. Easily. Yet they can’t get out of their own way. As far as the “challenge” that saved a timeout, it was dumb luck that Tomlin threw a challenge flag on a play that couldn’t be challenged and was called wrong on the field. Lol.

[cubanstogie]

Yes. Steelers coaching is horrible. Including today. That game should’ve been won by 10-14 points more. Easily. Yet they can’t get out of their own way. As far as the “challenge” that saved a timeout, it was dumb luck that Tomlin threw a challenge flag on a play that couldn’t be challenged and was called wrong on the field. Lol.
they could win win the SB and you'd complain that they didn't win by enough.LMAO, how did Tomlin screw today up. Did he throw one of the two pics, did he miss the FG. Gronk normally eats them alive, as well as backs on check downs. Didn't happen today. They gave up 2 big plays to WR's against the GOAT qb. Shit happens. So its Tomlin fault when they give games away, but when they win he's at fault because they didn't win by enough. I admit I went overboard on Ben last week but some of you are impossible to please. Enjoy the win, only one team gets to win the SB anyways. You cant win the SB if your not in the playoffs. Steelers have been consistently in.

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Its a game of inches, Vance non TD because foot out by 3 inches, JUJU's catch ripped away by defender on last drive. Tomlin has no control of that.

[st33lersguy]

The Patriots record not only just dropped, Le'Veon Bell's value did as well. Conner's backup with a monster day.

[fansince'76]

they could win win the SB and you'd complain that they didn't win by enough.LMAO, how did Tomlin screw today up. Did he throw one of the two pics, did he miss the FG. Gronk normally eats them alive, as well as backs on check downs. Didn't happen today. They gave up 2 big plays to WR's against the GOAT qb. Shit happens. So its Tomlin fault when they give games away, but when they win he's at fault because they didn't win by enough. I admit I went overboard on Ben last week but some of you are impossible to please. Enjoy the win, only one team gets to win the SB anyways. You cant win the SB if your not in the playoffs. Steelers have been consistently in.

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Its a game of inches, Vance non TD because foot out by 3 inches, JUJU's catch ripped away by defender on last drive. Tomlin has no control of that.

86WARD is cool, just a bit frustrated (as am I). Instead of having the division wrapped up and holding starters out in Week 17 (and out of harm's way from that cheapshotting POS Burfict), they're still going to have to go balls to the wall just to make it in.

Happy for the win today, but still pissed as hell that they shit the bed against the worst team in the league last week.

[steelreserve]

As do I. But I also want to know where the gameplan for shutting down Gronk came from. Whoever did that should stay or get hired.

You mean Father Time? He did a great job on Gronkowski today from the look of it.

[tom444]

So long TB12:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gd5SXN-YDc

[Mojouw]

???? Coaching?

You mean the coaching that held the Patriots* to seven points? The coaching that had run plays that literally tricked every single defensive player but one? I can think of three bad plays. The blown coverage, which Tomlin says was his fault. And, the two zone coverage plays at the very end of the game that allows the Pats* to drive. Other than that, this game was very well coached. Brady and Belicheat* got them once with a quick change and quick snap. That's all. That means adjustments were made on the fly and issues fixed.

Unless you expect perfection, I really don't get how you can label the coaches goats today.

Can’t be one of the cool kids unless you bag on coaching no matter what. Anything good is attributed to players and all bad things are charged to coaching.

Also the other team makes mistakes, that is just on them not on anything the Steelers are doing.

[fansince'76]

You mean Father Time? He did a great job on Gronkowski today from the look of it.

Well, to be fair, they did actually cover him this time around...

[teegre]

Three dropped passes. Yeah, those hurt, but one of them I think was actually tipped by a Steelers defender although nothing was made of it. The penalties were almost all pre-snap motion penalties because the Steelers were getting off the ball fast. Those are forced errors, IMO, and can be attributed to the defense.

Plus, on Josh Gordon’s drop, he looked at Sean Davis right before the ball got there. That is the epitome of “hearing footsteps.”

[Dwinsgames]

This. The problem with games like this is that the bad stuff gets masked. I still want a major shakeup in the defensive coaching at the end of the season (at a minimum), and now it probably won't happen.


THIS ..................THIS................THIS........ .........THIS...............THIS

[Dwinsgames]

Jaylen Samuels was a beast ..... was a fan of the pick but he was better today than even I thought he could /would be ...... its 1 game but he looks promising

[Mojouw]

Jaylen Samuels was a beast ..... was a fan of the pick but he was better today than even I thought he could /would be ...... its 1 game but he looks promising

I think he will be even better next year. He needs to go through the patented system that Bell and Conner did of losing weight and remaking his body to retain strength but increase quickness.

[Edman]

'76 hit the nail on the head.

While it was nice to finally slay the dragon, this is still the very same team that blew three winnable games, including doing it's annual shitting the bed to the Raiders, who was just crushed today.

Butler, Porter and the rest of the Defensive coaching staff need to be let go, and I'm not convinced Mike Tomlin will lead this team to anywhere meaningful in January. Wins like this mask the issues on this team. Ben threw two more terrible picks, Fichtner is still way too pass happy, and the offense underachieved big time outside of Juju and Samuels, and the special teams is still inferior.

[86WARD]

they could win win the SB and you'd complain that they didn't win by enough.LMAO, how did Tomlin screw today up. Did he throw one of the two pics, did he miss the FG. Gronk normally eats them alive, as well as backs on check downs. Didn't happen today. They gave up 2 big plays to WR's against the GOAT qb. Shit happens. So its Tomlin fault when they give games away, but when they win he's at fault because they didn't win by enough. I admit I went overboard on Ben last week but some of you are impossible to please. Enjoy the win, only one team gets to win the SB anyways. You cant win the SB if your not in the playoffs. Steelers have been consistently in.

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Its a game of inches, Vance non TD because foot out by 3 inches, JUJU's catch ripped away by defender on last drive. Tomlin has no control of that.

Nah not really. When the coaching is good it’s good. I’ve always been a Tomlin supporter and still am. They aren’t finding much better out there than what they have in Tomlin. He makes some awful calls at times and the coaching today just wasn’t good in my opinion. The OC and more so DC aren’t great. Butler is a disaster. The offense (other than the first drive) looked very sloppy in the pass game and a week in week out they continue to run short button hook routes that are covered. I mean how many plays are actually run the way they are diagramed? The 3rd & 9 play was, again, a total bust but Samuels got loose and Ben found him. They are a better team when the run game is going and they can street ball the pass game. Ben makes great throws, receivers make a great catch...more or less, that’s the offense. Defense is a sieve unless they get pressure in before the QB can throw...how many receivers have we seen wide open in the last three weeks and it continued today. If not for a great play by Haden, could be a totally different outcome.

Danny Smith just sucks all around.

Hopefully this is a launching point for everyone involved on this team to make a serious run, but no one should have the confidence that this could be seriously done.

Would you be surprised if they beat the Saints next week and then lost to the Bengals? Or even lost to the Saints and Bengals? I mean maybe this was the Steelers Super Bowl?

BTW - I was also one of the few who predicted they’d win this game.

[teegre]

they could win win the SB and you'd complain that they didn't win by enough.LMAO, how did Tomlin screw today up. Did he throw one of the two pics, did he miss the FG. Gronk normally eats them alive, as well as backs on check downs. Didn't happen today. They gave up 2 big plays to WR's against the GOAT qb. Shit happens. So its Tomlin fault when they give games away, but when they win he's at fault because they didn't win by enough. I admit I went overboard on Ben last week but some of you are impossible to please. Enjoy the win, only one team gets to win the SB anyways. You cant win the SB if your not in the playoffs. Steelers have been consistently in.

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Its a game of inches, Vance non TD because foot out by 3 inches, JUJU's catch ripped away by defender on last drive. Tomlin has no control of that.

Exactly!!!!!

If McDonald gets his foot inbounds, there’s no missed FG by Boz... and we’re up by 11.

People wanted Tomlin to be aggressive. So, they throw it into the end zone on third-&-game. If JuJu pulls that down, it’s game over.

[Dwinsgames]

James Washington ..wow what a way to come face to face with adversity and smack it in the mouth ...props to the young man his arrow pointed up at the right time lets hope it stays up

[86WARD]

86WARD is cool

No...I’m an asshole...lol.

[teegre]

No...I’m an asshole...lol.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCFowMpLmAc&app=desktop

[86WARD]

James Washington ..wow what a way to come face to face with adversity and smack it in the mouth ...props to the young man his arrow pointed up at the right time lets hope it stays up

He and Rogers. If they play like that and continue to grow, that’s a nice, nice, nice receiving group! I really think given the opportunity and if he can stay healthy that Rogers could be an Emmanuel Sanders type player.

[Mojouw]

James Washington ..wow what a way to come face to face with adversity and smack it in the mouth ...props to the young man his arrow pointed up at the right time lets hope it stays up
Showed me that many on this board were right and I was overly worried and wrong about Washington. Several times tonight I saw why the team likes the kid so much. Not only the catches, but ran solid routes on many other occasions.

[vasteeler]

No...I’m an asshole...lol.

You ain't gotta tell us:heh:

[Mojouw]

He and Rogers. If they play like that and continue to grow, that’s a nice, nice, nice receiving group! I really think given the opportunity and if he can stay healthy that Rogers could be an Emmanuel Sanders type player.

Rogers might be key. Pushes JuJu outside. Allows Washington to run as the 4th guy and Switzer slides to “Swiss army knife”.

[86WARD]

You ain't gotta tell us:heh:


https://youtu.be/FD6C1PT9uvI

[86WARD]

Rogers might be key. Pushes JuJu outside. Allows Washington to run as the 4th guy and Switzer slides to “Swiss army knife”.

“Switz Army Knife”

[Mojouw]

“Switz Army Knife”

Done! Now we just need something for Samuels.

[cubanstogie]

Nah not really. When the coaching is good it’s good. I’ve always been a Tomlin supporter and still am. They aren’t finding much better out there than what they have in Tomlin. He makes some awful calls at times and the coaching today just wasn’t good in my opinion. The OC and more so DC aren’t great. Butler is a disaster. The offense (other than the first drive) looked very sloppy in the pass game and a week in week out they continue to run short button hook routes that are covered. I mean how many plays are actually run the way they are diagramed? The 3rd & 9 play was, again, a total bust but Samuels got loose and Ben found him. They are a better team when the run game is going and they can street ball the pass game. Ben makes great throws, receivers make a great catch...more or less, that’s the offense. Defense is a sieve unless they get pressure in before the QB can throw...how many receivers have we seen wide open in the last three weeks and it continued today. If not for a great play by Haden, could be a totally different outcome.

Danny Smith just sucks all around.

Hopefully this is a launching point for everyone involved on this team to make a serious run, but no one should have the confidence that this could be seriously done.

Would you be surprised if they beat the Saints next week and then lost to the Bengals? Or even lost to the Saints and Bengals? I mean maybe this was the Steelers Super Bowl?

BTW - I was also one of the few who predicted they’d win this game.
. I get it, we are always looking for reasons why a loss, or D leaking like a sieve. I literally blamed Ben for not coming in earlier last week. But this week we won a type of game where we lost against Denver and Chargers. So I cant be pissed at anything. Ok I get Haydens pic turned it around but after first drive in first half they were shut down.But Ben threw 2 pics while Steelers driving. Boz missed a chipshot. I agree this game shouldn't have been this close, I just dont see where Tomlin screwed up. Ill take Bens pics due to him scrambling and making some great plays. I think they mixed it up with empty sets well and the running game was a huge success. Who gets credit for that. You can blame penalties on Pats for them losing, but Steelers penalties or lack of agains Chargers worse IMO. Over the season they even out, except for last year on J james so called drop. Ill stop rambling , had too many old fashions, but remember Tomlin was coaching against arguable the best coach ever, if you discount the cheating. I wouldn't be surprised if they win next week and lose to Bengals, its been that type of year. Ive said it before they can beat anyone but lose to anyone. I so see Chargers beating the Ravens on Saturday so we will be playing with house money on Sunday. Thats my hope anyways.

[Devilsdancefloor]

The biggest loser ?

The Steelers Fan Who Bet $11K Against His Own Team in Sportsbook’s First Wager

he needs to do this every game now!


game ball : Haden & samuels

goat BOZ still missing FG didnt bite them today but will in the future

[Steeler-in-west]

O-line, watt, samuels and in spite of the terrible last 3 weeks Tomlin, he got the team ready to play

goats: Boswell and Tomlin ( where was this shit the last three weeks?)

[Craic]

No...I’m an asshole...lol.

:chuckle: That reminds me of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30cKwNm9ThQ). NOTE! I do not condone the song being sung or the words. NSFW. You have been warned. (However, yay! for Pirate Metal!)

[86WARD]

:chuckle: That reminds me of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30cKwNm9ThQ). NOTE! I do not condone the song being sung or the words. NSFW. You have been warned. (However, yay! for Pirate Metal!)

Lol.

[steelreserve]

:chuckle: That reminds me of this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30cKwNm9ThQ). NOTE! I do not condone the song being sung or the words. NSFW. You have been warned. (However, yay! for Pirate Metal!)

how could you not condone that song, unless you're the wanker they're singing about

[SteelMayhem72]

Another thing, they need to wear the color rush unis more, I love them!

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[Fire Goodell]

When Conner gets healthy I think the 1-2 punch with him and Samuels will be a good one. Samuels impressed me with his work as a WR, he's probably better than Bell split out wide.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Game Balls: Joe Haden, TJ Watt, Jaylen Samuels, Eli Rogers

Goats: Boz, Coaching. Coaching is outrageously bad...

I agree, good list of gameballs, although not sure Eli.

I also agree the coaching is bad. NFL countdown this am pointed out that the Steelers appear to have abandoned the run game since week 12. They also pointed out that the last 2 teams prior to the STeelers to defeat the Pats ran the football for approx. 200 yards per game. Boomer Esiason pointed out the Steelers success in gaining 82 yards in the first half, but on limited carries and they should run the football in the 2nd.

But what happened?? A lot more pass heavy offense and seemingly routes designed for 40 yard gains on 2nd and 9, or 1st and goal from the 4 and not getting any points. Fichtner is terrible at feeling when something like the run game is working for him and exploiting an advantage with the opposing defense.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Showed me that many on this board were right and I was overly worried and wrong about Washington. Several times tonight I saw why the team likes the kid so much. Not only the catches, but ran solid routes on many other occasions.

Yes, Washington's ability to compete and catch 50-50 balls, his strong hands in making the catch and also that RB build he has which allows him to break tackles were all on display. He also had 2 steps on one deep pass, but Ben overthrew him if you recall that. If he had a radio show, he could discuss Ben not connecting on that pass, which Washington did his job.

Kudos to you for owning up your worries. I will admit that I was wrong also, as I thought by week 8 he would be firmly established as the #3WR, which hasn't happened.

[Fire Goodell]

If anything, Samuels deserves the game ball for sitting on the Pats' bench after making a 1st down without getting flagged lmao. I was laughing so bad when that happened but honestly was expecting a ref to throw a flag for that

[EzraTank]

Brady looks like he's finally on the decline as well.

I disagree with this. He hit a lot of wide open guys and he had his receivers drop balls that hit them in the chest many times. He's never been mobile and he finally made one bad decision (Haden INT) but Ben makes 1-3 of them a game and has for years.

[Shoes]

Another thing, they need to wear the color rush unis more, I love them!

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No question those are the top uniforms in the NFL!

[Mojouw]

Yes, Washington's ability to compete and catch 50-50 balls, his strong hands in making the catch and also that RB build he has which allows him to break tackles were all on display. He also had 2 steps on one deep pass, but Ben overthrew him if you recall that. If he had a radio show, he could discuss Ben not connecting on that pass, which Washington did his job.

Kudos to you for owning up your worries. I will admit that I was wrong also, as I thought by week 8 he would be firmly established as the #3WR, which hasn't happened.

Good points. ALso I figure that I rant and rave on here enough that I should own it.

What I found the most encouraging with that overthrow is that Washington and Ben "read" the same thing. Ben just overthrew him. But both guys were thinking the same way. Earlier in the year, the ball would go outside while Washington went inside or Washington would break the route off while Ben wanted it to continue vertical, etc. Encouraging.

Also, how he ripped that ball down on the big pass play was very heartening to see. At his size/speed that will have to be his "go to" move. Washington will be able to get NFL open on most DBs, but he won't be running 5 steps free and just settle under deep balls. He is going to have be the master of the contested catch.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Also, how he ripped that ball down on the big pass play was very heartening to see. At his size/speed that will have to be his "go to" move. Washington will be able to get NFL open on most DBs, but he won't be running 5 steps free and just settle under deep balls. He is going to have be the master of the contested catch.

Yes and that is what most said of him coming out of college. Goes up and gets the football on deep routes very well. I saw the Chris Chambers comparison a few times for you Badger fans out there. Below is Mike Mayock eval.

60. James Washington, WR, Pittsburgh Steelers

What this young man is is a vertical finisher. He gets on top, stacks you and he's got as good ball skills on the deep ball as any player I've seen in college football recently. He's got the arm length of a 6-foot-6 guy. I think he's got a little bit of tightness in intermediate routes.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000929490/article/mike-mayocks-pickbypick-draft-analysis-for-rounds-23-results

[Mojouw]

Yes and that is what most said of him coming out of college. Goes up and gets the football on deep routes very well. I saw the Chris Chambers comparison a few times for you Badger fans out there. Below is Mike Mayock eval.

60. James Washington, WR, Pittsburgh Steelers



What this young man is is a vertical finisher. He gets on top, stacks you and he's got as good ball skills on the deep ball as any player I've seen in college football recently. He's got the arm length of a 6-foot-6 guy. I think he's got a little bit of tightness in intermediate routes.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000929490/article/mike-mayocks-pickbypick-draft-analysis-for-rounds-23-results




Seems pretty spot on. So maybe like Chris Chambers as a floor and a slightly bigger Steve Smith as a ceiling?

[DesertSteel]

Seems pretty spot on. So maybe like Chris Chambers as a floor and a slightly bigger Steve Smith as a ceiling?
Almost 8,000 receiving yards is a pretty nice floor! :)

[Mojouw]

Almost 8,000 receiving yards is a pretty nice floor! :)

Your right! I just looked it up for the first time ever -- when the heck did Chambers manage to do that? I remember him dropping as many as he caught and being hurt all the time!

So much for my memory!

[steel striker]

What a game from Samuels and, Hayden I'll take the win. Bos made a kick when it matters the most. I totally agree with Fan76 the Steelers should have won this game 10-17 points. Makes no sense to lose to the Raiders then beat the Pats plus holding them to 10 points who saw that coming?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Your right! I just looked it up for the first time ever -- when the heck did Chambers manage to do that? I remember him dropping as many as he caught and being hurt all the time!

So much for my memory!

I don't think you are a Badgers fan then. :wink02:

Google up some Chris Chambers video and you see he has the same kind of build, long striding, deep threat ability that Washington showed in college. I saw teams work out Washington in the slot in Senior Bowl week and he was fine there and looked OK across the middle. Kind of like the one catch he had over the middle yesterday.

Maybe Ben gains some confidence with him going forward, but long term we have to hope that if Rudolph pans out, he and Washington will have great rapport.

[Mojouw]

I don't think you are a Badgers fan then. :wink02:

Google up some Chris Chambers video and you see he has the same kind of build, long striding, deep threat ability that Washington showed in college. I saw teams work out Washington in the slot in Senior Bowl week and he was fine there and looked OK across the middle. Kind of like the one catch he had over the middle yesterday.

Maybe Ben gains some confidence with him going forward, but long term we have to hope that if Rudolph pans out, he and Washington will have great rapport.

Fair enough! I remember Chambers slicing teams up in the Big 10, but then have this impression of him catching about 35-40% of his passes in the NFL and being hurt almost as much as he was on the field.

Again, I don't always remember what I had for dinner yesterday, so almost assuredly I got more than a bit wrong!

[JnK]

Game ball to the entire team.
I'm giving the goat to Brady..... rumor has it that he likes them. :bananadoggywow:

[tube517]

Good points. ALso I figure that I rant and rave on here enough that I should own it.

What I found the most encouraging with that overthrow is that Washington and Ben "read" the same thing. Ben just overthrew him. But both guys were thinking the same way. Earlier in the year, the ball would go outside while Washington went inside or Washington would break the route off while Ben wanted it to continue vertical, etc. Encouraging.

Also, how he ripped that ball down on the big pass play was very heartening to see. At his size/speed that will have to be his "go to" move. Washington will be able to get NFL open on most DBs, but he won't be running 5 steps free and just settle under deep balls. He is going to have be the master of the contested catch.


Yes and that is what most said of him coming out of college. Goes up and gets the football on deep routes very well. I saw the Chris Chambers comparison a few times for you Badger fans out there. Below is Mike Mayock eval.

60. James Washington, WR, Pittsburgh Steelers

What this young man is is a vertical finisher. He gets on top, stacks you and he's got as good ball skills on the deep ball as any player I've seen in college football recently. He's got the arm length of a 6-foot-6 guy. I think he's got a little bit of tightness in intermediate routes.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000929490/article/mike-mayocks-pickbypick-draft-analysis-for-rounds-23-results



He and Rogers. If they play like that and continue to grow, that’s a nice, nice, nice receiving group! I really think given the opportunity and if he can stay healthy that Rogers could be an Emmanuel Sanders type player.

Eli looked healthy like in 2016. Add in the Farmer (Washington) and you've got some good options for Ben.

AB
Juju
Washington
Eli
Switzer

Vanimal
Outlaw

Conner
Samuels

No wonder this is the end for AB. :ranger: :chuckle:

[Craic]

No question those are the top uniforms in the NFL!

Sheesh. I hate them. I'd rather have the Bumblebees than those. Of course, these were my favorite throwbacks, so what do I know?
http://www.steelersuk.com/history/thirties/1933-uniform-300.jpg

[vasteeler]

Sheesh. I hate them. I'd rather have the Bumblebees than those. Of course, these were my favorite throwbacks, so what do I know?
http://www.steelersuk.com/history/thirties/1933-uniform-300.jpg

Do you really? I love the color rush unis. I also love the bumble bees.

[86WARD]

I agree, good list of gameballs, although not sure Eli.

I also agree the coaching is bad. NFL countdown this am pointed out that the Steelers appear to have abandoned the run game since week 12. They also pointed out that the last 2 teams prior to the STeelers to defeat the Pats ran the football for approx. 200 yards per game. Boomer Esiason pointed out the Steelers success in gaining 82 yards in the first half, but on limited carries and they should run the football in the 2nd.

But what happened?? A lot more pass heavy offense and seemingly routes designed for 40 yard gains on 2nd and 9, or 1st and goal from the 4 and not getting any points. Fichtner is terrible at feeling when something like the run game is working for him and exploiting an advantage with the opposing defense.

I will give the coaching staff props on Samuels though. He ran much better this week than he did in previous weeks. He totally looked coached up.

[86WARD]

Sheesh. I hate them. I'd rather have the Bumblebees than those. Of course, these were my favorite throwbacks, so what do I know?
http://www.steelersuk.com/history/thirties/1933-uniform-300.jpg

Lol. You’re in that “the Uglier the Better” camp. Barry Foster looked good in that uniform.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I will give the coaching staff props on Samuels though. He ran much better this week than he did in previous weeks. He totally looked coached up.

I agree, that yesterday he looked to keep his feet moving at contact where in the past he has just stopped...that should be getting coached up. I also saw him accelerate to the edge during a pull and earlier, he seemed tenetive.

I still believe that the O line can get any decent back yardage and has proven it with Samuels, Conner or Bell. When the O line gets a chance in the run game, the Steeler run the ball well.

[GoSlash27]

Lol. You’re in that “the Uglier the Better” camp. Barry Foster looked good in that uniform.

I'm a fan of the Batman throwback uni's.
http://www.footballcardgallery.com/pics/1969-Topps/17_Andy_Russell_football_card.jpg
Apparently nobody in the organization is, tho' :(

And yeah, Jaylen Samuels looked great yesterday! My biggest beef with Conner is he's cavalier with how he holds the football, but I noticed that Samuels went to great lengths to protect it.

[Fire Goodell]

Sheesh. I hate them. I'd rather have the Bumblebees than those. Of course, these were my favorite throwbacks, so what do I know?
http://www.steelersuk.com/history/thirties/1933-uniform-300.jpg

That one looks like a soccer uniform lol

[Hawkman]

I'm a fan of the Batman throwback uni's.
http://www.footballcardgallery.com/pics/1969-Topps/17_Andy_Russell_football_card.jpg
Apparently nobody in the organization is, tho' :(

And yeah, Jaylen Samuels looked great yesterday! My biggest beef with Conner is he's cavalier with how he holds the football, but I noticed that Samuels went to great lengths to protect it.

I liked the way you sort of brought that back around to the thread topic.:heh:

[GoSlash27]

Makes no sense to lose to the Raiders then beat the Pats plus holding them to 10 points who saw that coming?

But again, the Steelers D didn't really hold the Pats to 10 points. The Pats did that to themselves. 100 yards + of drive killing penalties and several critical dropped passes that hit open receivers right in the numbers.
That is not to say that the D didn't make some critical plays, mind you... but honestly the crowd noise gets as much credit for this win as the Steelers D.

Which reminds me: Game ball to the fans in attendance at Heinz Field.

[Craic]

But again, the Steelers D didn't really hold the Pats to 10 points. The Pats did that to themselves. 100 yards + of drive killing penalties and several critical dropped passes that hit open receivers right in the numbers.
That is not to say that the D didn't make some critical plays, mind you... but honestly the crowd noise gets as much credit for this win as the Steelers D.

Which reminds me: Game ball to the fans in attendance at Heinz Field.

But the drive killing penalties came why? Had our defensive line not had the jump on them, had they not be pressuring Brady, then the O line wouldn't have been so jumpy. One or two I can write off to O line error, but that many? Our D Line got into their (actually, his, as it was primary one person, right?) heads. So, no. I give that to the Steelers.

[GoSlash27]

But the drive killing penalties came why? Had our defensive line not had the jump on them, had they not be pressuring Brady, then the O line wouldn't have been so jumpy. One or two I can write off to O line error, but that many? Our D Line got into their (actually, his, as it was primary one person, right?) heads. So, no. I give that to the Steelers.

The false starts mainly came from crowd noise and trying to get snaps off quickly because it was catching our D off guard. Show a look, shift the formation, then snap it before the defense is ready. They did it because it worked, but they got a little too cute and sowed confusion on their side. The dropped passes because of lack of preparedness. I'll give our D credit for the holding calls, but no. I do not for one second believe that the false starts happened because they were scared of our pass rush.

[steelreserve]

But the drive killing penalties came why? Had our defensive line not had the jump on them, had they not be pressuring Brady, then the O line wouldn't have been so jumpy. One or two I can write off to O line error, but that many? Our D Line got into their (actually, his, as it was primary one person, right?) heads. So, no. I give that to the Steelers.

While we had sufficient pressure to be a nuisance for parts of the game, I really did not think it was anything special that would make them "afraid" or get into their heads. We've put on that kind of pressure against them many times before and gotten nothing but a kick in the face for our efforts. They really just looked less coordinated and less skilled this time. And fuck you with a fuckin' anchor.

[Mojouw]

When Watt shows an obvious pass rush alignment and the OT takes a kick slide step a beat early how in the world can you not see a connection?

There was on where Chick-fil-A got the tackle to false start by glaring at him real hard. I expected the ref to announce the flag as a false start and two for flinching.

[steelreserve]

When Watt shows an obvious pass rush alignment and the OT takes a kick slide step a beat early how in the world can you not see a connection?

There was on where Chick-fil-A got the tackle to false start by glaring at him real hard. I expected the ref to announce the flag as a false start and two for flinching.

I just think they aren't that good this year. Maybe Watt in particular was causing them trouble, but overall they jjst looked sloppy and undisciplined. Uncharacteristic of the Patriots, but possible when you've got bigger problems.

[teegre]

There is no way that a Belichick-coached team is less than perfect. Ever. He wins with the worst talent in the NFL, because he urinates the cure to cancer.

Obviously, yesterday, Belichick told his RT to false start four times, because Belichick is playing the long con.

Likewise, he had Brady only score one FG in three red-zone trips, because he is saving all of his scoring plays for the playoffs.

Lastly, Belichick’s defense, which wins on moxie alone (no talent needed), gave up their longest drive of the season, in order to boost Big Ben’s confidence (so that Ben will get cocky).

SUMMATION:
Belichick planned for the Steelers to win.

[86WARD]

I'm a fan of the Batman throwback uni's.
http://www.footballcardgallery.com/pics/1969-Topps/17_Andy_Russell_football_card.jpg
Apparently nobody in the organization is, tho' :(

And yeah, Jaylen Samuels looked great yesterday! My biggest beef with Conner is he's cavalier with how he holds the football, but I noticed that Samuels went to great lengths to protect it.

The team was selling those on the website for the longest time...

[Craic]

While we had sufficient pressure to be a nuisance for parts of the game, I really did not think it was anything special that would make them "afraid" or get into their heads. We've put on that kind of pressure against them many times before and gotten nothing but a kick in the face for our efforts. They really just looked less coordinated and less skilled this time. And fuck you with a fuckin' anchor.

Except, we didn't cover on the backend as well as did this time outside of one previous game and two passes in this game. So that extra half a second Brady holds it means the margin of error for his linemen has just been halved. Then, we started a player that has an unbelievable motor and it starts causing some issues, as well as having all three guys on the line being healthy and playing good. And I'm going to punch you right in the balls.

[Istina]

Yes. Steelers coaching is horrible. Including today. That game should’ve been won by 10-14 points more. Easily. Yet they can’t get out of their own way. As far as the “challenge” that saved a timeout, it was dumb luck that Tomlin threw a challenge flag on a play that couldn’t be challenged and was called wrong on the field. Lol.

You can thank Ben and Boswell for the game not being won by 10-14 points, a missed chip shot and two give aways on bad decisions trying to squeeze throws into small windows. The FG alone makes it a 10 point win which is what you are looking for.

[Istina]

Gotta give props to the fans in the stands they wreaked havoc with the Oline of the Pats causing many false starts
No goats, a blown coverage, a few bad decisions by the coaching staff and Ben and that's about it

[DesertSteel]

Gotta give props to the fans in the stands they wreaked havoc with the Oline of the Pats causing many false starts
No goats, a blown coverage, a few bad decisions by the coaching staff and Ben and that's about it
Sounded loud over TV... still 3k short of capacity. What's wrong with the folks in Pittsburgh?!

[steelreserve]

Except, we didn't cover on the backend as well as did this time outside of one previous game and two passes in this game. So that extra half a second Brady holds it means the margin of error for his linemen has just been halved. Then, we started a player that has an unbelievable motor and it starts causing some issues, as well as having all three guys on the line being healthy and playing good. And I'm going to punch you right in the balls.

That's basically it - pressure was all right, but we played tighter coverage (better man coverage, less fuckin stupid zone) and all together that worked way better. Kind of the same as last year when it mostly worked and we should've won the game (did win it if you ask me), except this year the Patriots are worse and I also don't think we had Haden for that game.

What I don't think is that it was a result of us having such a fierce pass rush that they were scared. Just everyone did their job well, and also the Patriots were sloppy and bad.