Week 11: Jacksonville Jaguars

[Edman]

Yep, it's these guys again. Was originally going to a Sunday Nighter, but was moved to 1pm, because Jacksonville sucks.

They lost 29-26 in Indy today, and have fallen to 3-6, Officially rendering next Sunday a trap game. Jaguars always play the Steelers tough and they have Fournette back. Plus everything seems to go right for them against Pittsburgh.

These are one of those games where the 2014-17 teams would overlook their opponent, sleepwalk through and hope to pull it out in the end, or just blow it. If this Steelers team is truly different and improved over 2014-17 in terms of coaching, teamwork and focus, they take care of business and don't let down in the slightest for 60 minutes. Plus they owe JAX one for last year.

[AtlantaDan]

• Mike Mitchell won’t be quoted in Sports Illustrated guaranteeing a victory over the New England Patriots.
“We’re going to play [the Patriots] again,’’ Mitchell said in an interview that was published days before the Steelers-Jacksonville playoff game. “We can play them in hell, we can play them in Haiti, we can play them in New England . . . We’re gonna win.”

• Le’Veon Bell won’t be tweeting before the game that “I love round 2’s … we’ll have two round 2’s in back to back weeks,” referring to the Jaguars and Patriots.

• Mitchell won’t be screaming outside the Jaguars locker room before the game proclaiming that they are “going to know my name!”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/11/11/Don-t-expect-Steelers-to-rile-up-Jaguars-this-time-Cam-Heyward-Leonard-Fournette-Mike-Tomlin-Le-Veon-Bell/stories/201811110174

Those were the days, eh?

[Fire Goodell]

Mike who? Mike Hawk?

[86WARD]

Can’t give this game and that Broncos game away. Should be two easy wins...should be...

[GoSlash27]

Can’t give this game and that Broncos game away. Should be two easy wins...should be...

It'd better be. Otherwise the Steelers don't deserve elite status and will just get kicked out of the playoffs as also- rans.

[polamalubeast]

The biggest challenge for the steelers in this game could be the heat...The Steelers have rarely played in the last few year when it's hot, so hopefully it will not be too hot.

The pats had problems in the last few year in Miami(1-4 in the last 5 games in Miami), I do not know if it was because of the heat, but that could be one of the reasons.

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Can’t give this game and that Broncos game away. Should be two easy wins...should be...

For Denver, almost every single one of their loss was close, especially at home.

Almost beat the chiefs and they only lost by 3 points against the rams.Broncos are 3-6, but their points differential is only at -8.

[AtlantaDan]

Steelers open as 4&1/2 - 5&1/2 point favorites. That seems high for what is a last stand home game for the Jags.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/line-movement/steelers-@-jaguars.cfm/date/11-18-18/time/1300#J

Now that their season has crashed maybe the home crowd will revert to old habits and it will be a Steelers crowd

[Mojouw]

This game will allow the defense to provide a tangible answer to 2 questions:

1. Is the run defense really revamped and renewed, or has it simply not really been tested to date.
2. Can the seemingly revitalized pass rush do what they have been doing AND keep a mobile QB contained on critical downs?

If it is "Yes" to both of those -- they likely get a win on the road. If it is "No" to either or both, they will lose and lose badly.

[Steelerchad]

It won't be hot. Calling for a high of 70.

[polamalubeast]

This game will allow the defense to provide a tangible answer to 2 questions:

1. Is the run defense really revamped and renewed, or has it simply not really been tested to date.
2. Can the seemingly revitalized pass rush do what they have been doing AND keep a mobile QB contained on critical downs?

If it is "Yes" to both of those -- they likely get a win on the road. If it is "No" to either or both, they will lose and lose badly.

The steelers need to have a similar gameplan that they had against the panthers after the first drive.

Bortles is more dangerous with his legs than with his arm.Keep him in the pocket....and please, do not make Fournette look like Adrian Peterson at his peak once again ... Fournette is not that good at this point (24 run for 53 yards yesterday against the Colts).

[GoSlash27]

For Denver, almost every single one of their loss was close, especially at home.
True, but almost all of those were against bottom feeders.


Almost beat the chiefs and they only lost by 3 points against the rams.
True... but they also got hammered by the Jets 34-16.

Broncos are 3-6, but their points differential is only at -8.
That's because they had a 45-10 blowout against Arizona.

Not saying that the Steelers won't overlook them or play down to their level, but I don't believe that Denver is a quality team that's under the radar.

[polamalubeast]

I know the Broncos are not good, but it's just that the Broncos have been competitive every game at home this year, even against teams like the Rams, Chiefs and even the Texans.

If the steelers win against the broncos, but it's not a blowout, no reason to be upset, especially if we look at the history of the Steelers in Denver .... One of the best homefield advantage of the NFL.

[AtlantaDan]

Drama!

The Jaguars now occupy last place in the AFC South, all by themselves. And it may not be a place where cornerback Jalen Ramsey (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/11219/jalen-ramsey) wants to be.

“When I’m gone from here, y’all gone miss me (https://twitter.com/jalenramsey/status/1061980681952288768),” Ramsey tweeted on Monday morning. “I ain’t even trippin lol.”

It’s not clear what Ramsey means, but many will regard the message as a sign that the third-year cornerback won’t be finishing his career with the Jaguars.

The Jaguars hold Ramsey’s rights through 2020.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/12/cryptic-tweet-from-jalen-ramsey-hints-at-well-something/

[polamalubeast]

Drama!

The Jaguars now occupy last place in the AFC South, all by themselves. And it may not be a place where cornerback Jalen Ramsey (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/11219/jalen-ramsey) wants to be.

“When I’m gone from here, y’all gone miss me (https://twitter.com/jalenramsey/status/1061980681952288768),” Ramsey tweeted on Monday morning. “I ain’t even trippin lol.”

It’s not clear what Ramsey means, but many will regard the message as a sign that the third-year cornerback won’t be finishing his career with the Jaguars.

The Jaguars hold Ramsey’s rights through 2020.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/12/cryptic-tweet-from-jalen-ramsey-hints-at-well-something/


ouch!

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Can’t give this game and that Broncos game away. Should be two easy wins...should be...

Yes, but we know …."there are no easy games in the NFL".

Steelers will be rested and have seen enough to gameplan accordingly, but when it all comes down to it you need to beat the guy in front of you in order to beat the team. That involves the O line playing stellar like they have. That involves the D line not getting pushed around like the last time they played the Jags and that involves not turning the football over like last time.

IMO, stop Fournette and put the game in Bortles hands, win the turnover battle and control the line of scrimmage. Do that and should come out on top.

[DesertSteel]

I watched the 2nd half of the game between Indy and the Jags. Fournette looks fat and slow.

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The biggest challenge for the steelers in this game could be the heat...The Steelers have rarely played in the last few year when it's hot, so hopefully it will not be too hot.

The pats had problems in the last few year in Miami(1-4 in the last 5 games in Miami), I do not know if it was because of the heat, but that could be one of the reasons.

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For Denver, almost every single one of their loss was close, especially at home.

Almost beat the chiefs and they only lost by 3 points against the rams.Broncos are 3-6, but their points differential is only at -8.
Calling for a high of 70 on Sunday...

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I watched the 2nd half of the game between Indy and the Jags. Fournette looks fat and slow.

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Was he wearing a #36 B&G jersey?

[steel striker]

I really hope the Steeler defense brings it this game must limit the jags in the run game and, hopefully Vance could have a big day like last year in the playoff game. Also get Connor going as well.

[86WARD]

11-14 All Time vs the Jaguars. They need to keep rolling to hold onto that 2 seed. With the Rams, Chargers and Seahawks on the Chiefs schedule, there’s a chance that the Steelers can come out as a 1 seed if they keep playing winning ball. They’d have to beat the Patriots though as the Steelers and Vikings are the only relevant games left for NE.

[EzraTank]

Yep, it's these guys again. Was originally going to a Sunday Nighter, but was moved to 1pm, because Jacksonville sucks.

They lost 29-26 in Indy today, and have fallen to 3-6, Officially rendering next Sunday a trap game. Jaguars always play the Steelers tough and they have Fournette back. Plus everything seems to go right for them against Pittsburgh.

These are one of those games where the 2014-17 teams would overlook their opponent, sleepwalk through and hope to pull it out in the end, or just blow it. If this Steelers team is truly different and improved over 2014-17 in terms of coaching, teamwork and focus, they take care of business and don't let down in the slightest for 60 minutes. Plus they owe JAX one for last year.

The Jags are to us like we are to Carolina.

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The biggest challenge for the steelers in this game could be the heat...The Steelers have rarely played in the last few year when it's hot, so hopefully it will not be too hot.

The pats had problems in the last few year in Miami(1-4 in the last 5 games in Miami), I do not know if it was because of the heat, but that could be one of the reasons.


High of 70, partly cloudy. No weather excuses. (I just wanted to be the third guy to tell you :wink02: )

[pczach]

Yes, but we know …."there are no easy games in the NFL".




So true. It's not easy to win in the NFL.

If we knew the outcome to all the games, there wouldn't be much point in watching or caring.

[Iron Steeler]

We are facing a very desperate team. Which makes them dangerous. Plus they have always been a thorn in our ass since the cowher era.

[86WARD]

We are facing a very desperate team. Which makes them dangerous. Plus they have always been a thorn in our ass since the cowher era.

Desperate. In Jacksonville. 11-14 versus Jaguars. Got Fournette back. Possibly AJ Bouye returns. It’s got all the makings...

Steelers should have nothing but anger and revenge on their minds...

[Fire Goodell]

I hope we hang 50 points on those faggots

[DesertSteel]

Was he wearing a #36 B&G jersey?
He couldn't hold a candle to that guy.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

I hope we hang 50 points on those faggots

Sure, I hope we put up 50 points too.

I'm not the most PC person in the world, but do you think that adjective is one that we should be using? I mean, if british people are talking about cigarettes, that is different.

[cubanstogie]

I'm feeling another route. Bortles isn't good enough to expose Artie Burns if he plays or any other weaknesses we have. I think we get 3 takeaways and Vance McDonald has huge game. 37-21 Steelers. Pats and Jags will not have our number this year.

[86WARD]

I hope we hang 50 points on those faggots

Easy killer...lol.

[GoSlash27]

Bortles isn't good enough to expose Artie Burns if he plays

:scared: Dude! Don't even *suggest* that! Artie Burns better darn well not play!

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I hope we hang 50 points on those faggots

Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. :D

[86WARD]

Bortles isn't good enough to expose Artie Burns

Landry Jones is...

[GoSlash27]

Landry Jones is...

I think my nephew might be.

[Lady Steel]

Not much out there, but what Jags' fans are saying...


https://www.duvalpride.com/showthread.php?tid=29296


https://www.reddit.com/r/Jaguars/comments/9wheyr/the_jaguars_will_not_only_lose_to_the_steelers/


https://www.reddit.com/r/Jaguars/comments/9wm31z/playing_the_steelers_at_this_point_in_the_season/

[Fire Goodell]

Sure, I hope we put up 50 points too.

I'm not the most PC person in the world, but do you think that adjective is one that we should be using? I mean, if british people are talking about cigarettes, that is different.

Yeah sorry man I just really hate these guys, tiger came out of the cage :chuckle:

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Yeah sorry man I just really hate these guys, tiger came out of the cage :chuckle:

You saying sorry is the real Tiger IMO, I can respect that. Thirty years ago we threw that word around like it was nothing, but we were wrong then. Was even a Dire Straits song lyric.

I still hope the Steelers put up 50 on the Jags too. :yup:

[Count Steeler]

Bell for Ramsey and throw in Burns for good measure.

[cold-hard-steel]

You saying sorry is the real Tiger IMO, I can respect that. Thirty years ago we threw that word around like it was nothing, but we were wrong then. Was even a Dire Straits song lyric.

I still hope the Steelers put up 50 on the Jags too. :yup:

So you are hoping the Steelers put up 50 on the fags?I mean jags sorry:bolt:

[polamalubeast]

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[hwalker84]

I'm flying down for the game. Anyone hosting a tailgate?

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

So you are hoping the Steelers put up 50 on the fags?I mean jags sorry:bolt:

If they were playing in England, this might not be so redneck. http://www.cigarettespedia.com/index.php/File:Berkshire.GIF
http://www.cigarettespedia.com/index.php/File:Berkshire.GIF

[polamalubeast]

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[GoSlash27]

If they were playing in England, this might not be so redneck

They call cigarettes 'fags' in England? That's retarded. :brick:

[AtlantaDan]

Get ready for this hot take that goes after Tomlin for giving the Steelers Monday off after the Thursday night win if the Steelers lose to the Jags.

But maybe Tomlin bought some goodwill in the locker room by allowing the players to escape being asked more questions yesterday about you know who on Reporting Deadline Eve :noidea:

Ray Fittipaldo: It's a different approach. After a win this late in the season he was going to give them off Friday. The surprise was being off today. This is that so-called bonus day of practice and game-planning. Rest assured the players already have the game plan, or most of it. Just have an extra day off practice is all. I don't think it's a big deal, but it will be if they lose to a 3-6 Jaguars team.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/11/12/Ray-Fittipaldo-s-Steelers-chat-11-12-18/stories/201811120078

(http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/11/12/Ray-Fittipaldo-s-Steelers-chat-11-12-18/stories/201811120078)

[polamalubeast]

The steelers are much better against the Run this year.

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[86WARD]

All they need to do is throw to Fournette out of the backfield. No one covers the backs...lol.

[polamalubeast]

All they need to do is throw to Fournette out of the backfield. No one covers the backs...lol.

Fournette is far from being good as the RB of the Panthers as receiver ...

[86WARD]

Fournette is far from being good as the RB of the Panthers as receiver ...

Doesn’t matter. You could catch the ball out there.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Fournette is far from being good as the RB of the Panthers as receiver ...

True, if the gameplan is to throw to Fournette a lot and not hand it off to him....that will be great for the Steelers. I'm more concerned if VW or Bostic can get to the edges on an outside zone run before Fournette runs past them for a long run. That is what he did a lot last season.

[GoSlash27]

I'm not the most PC person in the world, but do you think that adjective is one that we should be using?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BtX17YK7MQ
^ Not for the easily- offended.

Absolutely, I think we should be using it. The word itself is funny and isn't the problem.

[vasteeler]

Ugh...they're going to kick our ass!

[Mojouw]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BtX17YK7MQ
^ Not for the easily- offended.

Absolutely, I think we should be using it. The word itself is funny and isn't the problem.

I mean that is hilarious and all, it really is....BUT...not sure a dude who thinks wanking it in front of folks that don't want to see him engage in that activity is the best supporting evidence you can provide :)

[GoSlash27]

not sure a dude who thinks wanking it in front of folks that don't want to see him engage in that activity is the best supporting evidence you can provide
Ad Hominem, defense; attacking the person instead of the argument. 10 yard penalty from the spot of the foul, automatic first down.

I don't approve of his actions either, but I do agree with his opinion on the matter. His being odious doesn't make him wrong.

[Mojouw]

Ad Hominem; attacking the person instead of the argument. I don't approve of his actions, but I agree with his opinion on the matter.

If you are using an opinion from a specific individual to back up a claim, the qualifications of that individual come into question.

For instance if I wanted to advance something anti-Semitic and used Hitler's speeches to back up my claims, then you countered my position by suggesting I should be cautious about the source of my supporting evidence - you would have a valid point. If I attempted to side-step any discussion of that reality with claims of "ad hominen" or "straw man", I would be being more than slightly disingenuous.

Now, If I just started calling Louis CK a misogynist piece of garbage that was a symbol of the oppressive patriarchy and yet another example of toxic masculinity and on and on...then your claims of "Straw Man" would be more than a valid ending to any further discussions.

However, I am not disparaging his character or intellect or something else that I can not prove. I am simply point out, mostly to be a smart-ass, that deploying the thoughts and musings of an individual who thought that forcing people to watch him fiddle with his bits is not the best arrow to pull out of the quiver in a discussion about the use of offensive terms.

And now, I think I've wrapped up about everything on internet...jammed Hitler in there, referenced social justice, made a dick joke, we covered popular logical fallacies, and that ought to wrap things up here...


...In all seriousness, I wasn't really trying to come at you. I grew up throwing that word and "gay" around as adjectives, nouns, adverbs, and a variety of other parts of speech rarely in any attempt to hurt anyone. But the bottom line is that whether we mean it to or not, it is wildly hurtful and offensive to a great number of wonderful people. So, as I've gotten older I've made great efforts to stop using those terms, several others along the same lines, and I think I'm a marginally better person for it.

[GoSlash27]

If you are using an opinion from a specific individual to back up a claim, the qualifications of that individual come into question.
I disagree. The argument itself is either valid or it is not. If it is fallacious, then counter it. Do that, 'cuz we're over this whole "political correctness" garbage.
You are not in charge of what words the rest of us get to use.

Nuthin' personal, just being logical ;)

[Mojouw]

I disagree. The argument itself is either valid or it is not. If it is fallacious, then counter it. Do that, 'cuz we're over this whole "political correctness" garbage.
You are not in charge of what words the rest of us get to use.

Nuthin' personal, just being logical ;)

Hair trigger much? I wasn't trying to be in charge of any words you use. However, if you, or anyone else, wants to throw around words that many think are offensive or inappropriate, be prepared to be called out for being an ignorant, inconsiderate SOB.

The reason that "fag" or "faggot" is offensive is because it carries the meaning that anyone who is not a heterosexual male is somehow less important, powerful, worthwhile, valuable, and worthy of consideration. It is word that was designed and largely used to marginalize and exclude a significant segment of society from having any acknowledgement and consigning them to the shadows and secrecy by demarcating their words, actions, behaviors, sexual preferences, and lifestyle as only worthy of scorn and mockery rather than equality and legitimacy.

Replace the word with any other slur and you have the same basic structural argument. I never said you or anyone else had to change your word choices. I shared my personal thoughts on the matter. And this whole thing started off with an attempt to be humorous.

But since you want to set it all up to be some sort of intense fight on what is and is not valid and who gets to determine validity, have a great time. I could give a shit.

[GoSlash27]

Mojo,
We all know "the reasons why". We simply no longer care when people take it upon themselves to act all offended on behalf of others, going all "some might find that deeply hurtful" or "you mustn't say that because..." ;)
If somebody around here refers to an *actual* gay dude as "faggot", we'll all jump on him because it's a DB way to behave. In the meantime, none of us appreciate self- appointed language police.

[Mojouw]

Mojo,
We all know "the reasons why". We simply no longer care when people take it upon themselves to act all offended on behalf of others, going all "some might find that deeply hurtful" or "you mustn't say that because..." ;)
If somebody around here refers to an *actual* gay dude as "faggot", we'll all jump on him because it's a DB way to behave. In the meantime, none of us appreciate self- appointed language police.

Well, since none of that actually happened, I'm not sure what the blue hell you are talking about.

If somebody around here actually attempts to police your language then you can jump all over them. In the meantime when I try to make a wise-ass remark about serial masturbation, maybe calm the hell down?

[GoSlash27]

https://youtu.be/xIgDOehIoS0?t=59

Calmer than you are ;)
:drink:

I mean, sorry... but when somebody gets all wound- up and blurts out "I hope we hang 50 points on those faggots" and you *don't* laugh, then you're *way* too wound- up. That ish is objectively funny. He's not attacking them for being gay or even disparaging gay people. It has nothing whatsoever to do with that. All the PC crap just ruins the "funny" for the rest of us... You realize how many *actual* gay people commented on that video saying they thought it was hilarious?

Have a wonderful night,
-Slashy

[teegre]

I mean that is hilarious and all, it really is....BUT...not sure a dude who thinks wanking it in front of folks that don't want to see him engage in that activity is the best supporting evidence you can provide :)

Louis CK masterbsting in public. Who saw that coming???... I mean, besides those 5 women.

[GoSlash27]

Louis CK masterbsting in public. Who saw that coming???... I mean, besides those 5 women.

^ See? Now *That's* funny :heh:
/ or maybe it's just me

[Mojouw]

https://youtu.be/xIgDOehIoS0?t=59

Calmer than you are ;)
:drink:

I mean, sorry... but when somebody gets all wound- up and blurts out "I hope we hang 50 points on those faggots" and you *don't* laugh, then you're *way* too wound- up. That ish is objectively funny. He's not attacking them for being gay or even disparaging gay people. It has nothing whatsoever to do with that. All the PC crap just ruins the "funny" for the rest of us... You realize how many *actual* gay people commented on that video saying they thought it was hilarious?

Have a wonderful night,
-Slashy

Sigh. I don't know how to make this any clearer. I think CK is hilarious and was one of the funniest guys to ever take the stage. Turns out he is kinda of crappy person, but doesn't change the fact that he is funny. Never said it did.

If you don't see the humor in countering a poster's comment that maybe the original post was not the best word choice with a claim that the PC language police is bullshit and we shouldn't get hung up on it while using the thoughts and comments of an individual that has himself been caught up in a massive PC furball, then I can't explain it any further. I mean if that isn't some ironic stuff right there, I don't know what is. The bench for comedians and satirists that have lampooned PC language issues is deep and varied. The selection of CK to support the point is objectively hilarious from several different angles.

It would be like trying to defend Todd Haley or Hue Jackson's coaching decisions by posting clips of Rich Kotite's brilliant strategic maneuvers.

I hope the Steelers violate the Jags as easily and often as Trump or Clinton violates their marriage vows. I hope at the end of the game the Jaguars are crying salty tears in the same amount that social justice liberals do when they watch election results. Feel better now?

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Louis CK masterbsting in public. Who saw that coming???... I mean, besides those 5 women.


^ See? Now *That's* funny :heh:
/ or maybe it's just me

Yeah, that is extremely funny and made me laugh. Why wouldn't it?

[teegre]

Tomlin deserves CREDIT for giving his players the day off today. They would have al been completely distracted by answering questions about Bell. Smart move. :nod:

[GoSlash27]

Tomlin deserves CREDIT for giving his players the day off today. They would have al been completely distracted by answering questions about Bell. Smart move. :nod:
I agree. I think this is the first time I've seen Tomlin head off a media circus by preemptively calling a day off. Master stroke on his part.

It would've been even funnier if the whole organization had the day off so Bell could show up to sign his tender, but nobody's home :D

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Louis CK masterbsting in public. Who saw that coming???... I mean, besides those 5 women.

Yeah, and he said they wanted to see his dick, so at least he was inclusive of their wishes.

See how great things are when people like Louis CK are considerate of others instead of using derogatory terms towards them. Salad-tossing, redneck moth3rfu@ker.

[teegre]

Yeah, and he said they wanted to see his dick, so at least he was inclusive of their wishes.

See how great things are when people like Louis CK are considerate of others instead of using derogatory terms towards them. Salad-tossing, redneck moth3rfu@ker.

I have the perfect reply/joke for that. But... this is a PG board. :lol:

That reminds me... I need to send Jon a text.

[Mojouw]

Yeah, and he said they wanted to see his dick, so at least he was inclusive of their wishes.

See how great things are when people like Louis CK are considerate of others instead of using derogatory terms towards them. Salad-tossing, redneck moth3rfu@ker.


I have the perfect reply/joke for that. But... this is a PG board. :lol:

That reminds me... I need to send Jon a text.

Oh my! This is getting pretty solid. Maybe we should post a poll on whether jelly or syrup is preferred?

I'll show myself out...

[teegre]

Oh my! This is getting pretty solid. Maybe we should post a poll on whether jelly or syrup is preferred?

I'll show myself out...

“We don’t need the death penalty!!!... we’ve got the toss-salad man!!!!!”

[Mojouw]

“We don’t need the death penalty!!!... we’ve got the toss-salad man!!!!!”

Oh, man. Used to watch that special over and over again.

[GoSlash27]

Oh, man. Used to watch that special over and over again.

'Tater Salad? He's hilarious, but Doug Stanhope is still my all time favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHywzQon6tc

[teegre]

Oh, man. Used to watch that special over and over again.

I saw the making of it, and Chris Rock learned from Jerry Seinfeld that you have to tour the little clubs (real holes in the wall) to perfect your jokes on various audiences. Rock visited hundreds of clubs (over eighteen months) before shooting that special. By the time that he took the stage to film it... it was perfect.

[stillers4me]

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[teegre]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ&app=desktop

[cold-hard-steel]

I still hope they hang 50+ on those "cigs".

[polamalubeast]

Some are worried about the next two games against the Jaguars and the Broncos, since they are two teams of 3-6 and it's on the road, but the steelers have been very good since 2 years on the road in the regular season ( 14-1-1 in the last 16 games on the road) and many of his games were against bad teams.

It's not realistic to score 50 points against the jaguars, they are still a good defense, even if they are not elite, but their problem is their offense, especially for the turnovers (they are -11).But the steelers have not been very good at creating turnovers this year, outside of the second quarter against Tampa Bay, so if the steelers does not create turnovers in this game will surely not be a blowout (a 20 points win or more).

[polamalubeast]

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[AtlantaDan]

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[polamalubeast]

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[Mojouw]

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Also Ben: What the hell is a bulletin board? Do you not have any digital devices?

[Edman]

Don't need bulletin board material.

This is the same team that beat you twice last year, their corner talked crap in the offseason, and is a major nemesis that all of the Steelers' baggage and demons are wrapped up into. Jacksonville isn't good currently, but this is a major statement game by the Steelers. That this isn't the same arrogant, unfocused, undisciplined, underachieving Steelers team of years past.

[Born2Steel]

If the Jags are smart they will run the same offense against us as last season. Make us stop what we were unable to stop before.

[Edman]

If the Jags are smart they will run the same offense against us as last season. Make us stop what we were unable to stop before.

Except there’s no Mike Mitchell or Artie Burns to exploit in the secondary, and there is no Sean Spence at ILB.

Jacksonville didn’t do anything fancy, they were just better and more physical than the Steelers.

For Jacksonville to win they’ll have to do it they way they did it. Simply being better up front than the Steelers.

[Hound]

Weather should not be an issue, low to mid 70’s with overcast skies.

[Fire Goodell]

If the Jags are smart they will run the same offense against us as last season. Make us stop what we were unable to stop before.

They dominated the LoS and pushed us around. With their injuries on their O-line I don't see that happening again

[tube517]

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[SteelMember]

AS much as we want the win here, the Steelers shouldn't (and hopefully won't) go into this game as "revenge". That would be the wrong approach, imo... Just as they shouldn't think we are the the same team as last year.

[86WARD]

Just go in prepared, win and go home. That simple. No need for revenge, Who took Bells what. Just punch the clock, put your nose down, go to work, get the win and punch the clock and go home.

[Born2Steel]

They dominated the LoS and pushed us around. With their injuries on their O-line I don't see that happening again

I see what you're saying. That makes sense. What I'm talking about though is that zone block run/dink dunk pass offense that may not be as effective this year due to what you say, but only needs to produce 3-5 yards per play. I think they should be able to do that on most plays. This uses clock and keeps the Steeler's 40-50 burger offense on the sidelines. If the Steelers are able to get a quick start and build a good solid lead, of course this plan goes out the window. With a banged up OL and the way the Steelers have been able to pressure the QB lately I don't think I start this game trying to win on the arm of Bortles and vertical stretch plays. I think we win this one. Just knowing the weakness of this defense, that gameplan makes sense to me.

[AtlantaDan]

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[teegre]

I see what you're saying. That makes sense. What I'm talking about though is that zone block run/dink dunk pass offense that may not be as effective this year due to what you say, but only needs to produce 3-5 yards per play. I think they should be able to do that on most plays. This uses clock and keeps the Steeler's 40-50 burger offense on the sidelines. If the Steelers are able to get a quick start and build a good solid lead, of course this plan goes out the window. With a banged up OL and the way the Steelers have been able to pressure the QB lately I don't think I start this game trying to win on the arm of Bortles and vertical stretch plays. I think we win this one. Just knowing the weakness of this defense, that gameplan makes sense to me.

I would be a sizable number of month’s mortgages on my “theory” that if the Steelers get an early lead and can then pass-rush the heck out of the opposition, that the Steelers would win every game that they play.

[Born2Steel]

I would be a sizable number of month’s mortgages on my “theory” that if the Steelers get an early lead and can then pass-rush the heck out of the opposition, that the Steelers would win every game that they play.

Add in the defense starts getting a turnover or two and this becomes a full on guarantee.

[Mojouw]

I would be a sizable number of month’s mortgages on my “theory” that if the Steelers get an early lead and can then pass-rush the heck out of the opposition, that the Steelers would win every game that they play.


Add in the defense starts getting a turnover or two and this becomes a full on guarantee.

You have outlined the only way to play effective and useful defense in the NFL right now.

Your offense has to help force the other team to abandon about half their playbook and the defense has to be able to win in the pass rush once that happens. If you can do those two things - you are a "good" defense in 2018.

[AtlantaDan]

IMO there is a definite change in how this year’s Steelers do business, as reflected in this comment from DeCastro (who clearly has emerged as a team leader and backs it up with actions such as confronting Eric Reid after the Reid hit on Ben last week)

“We better be more humble,” offensive lineman David DeCastro said. “They beat our butt two times pretty soundly, especially with their defense and even their offense, too.
“We’re confident. Don’t get me wrong. We’re not sitting here scared. But at the same time we’re like, ‘Let’s just go play the game and try to get a win.’ No nonsense. That’s kind of the mantra.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/11/16/pittsburgh-steelers-jacksonville-jaguars-nfl-week-11-preview-jalen-ramsey-antonio-brown-mike-tomlin/stories/201811160135

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

IMO there is a definite change in how this year’s Steelers do business, as reflected in this comment from DeCastro (who clearly has emerged as a team leader and backs it up with actions such as confronting Eric Reid after the Reid hit on Ben last week)

“We better be more humble,” offensive lineman David DeCastro said. “They beat our butt two times pretty soundly, especially with their defense and even their offense, too.
“We’re confident. Don’t get me wrong. We’re not sitting here scared. But at the same time we’re like, ‘Let’s just go play the game and try to get a win.’ No nonsense. That’s kind of the mantra.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/11/16/pittsburgh-steelers-jacksonville-jaguars-nfl-week-11-preview-jalen-ramsey-antonio-brown-mike-tomlin/stories/201811160135




Only thing that has changed is who is in the locker room. Who were the quotes gonna come from last season? Mitchell, AB, Bell, Bryant for a large part. Maybe Pouncey too. 3 of those guys are gone and AB is underperforming on the field and overperforming in a 45 MPH zone.

O linemen always gonna go after DB's that weigh 100 lbs less than them, DeCastro was always in the mix when Burfict and the Bungholes got into it too. Respect everybody, but fear nobody is always the mantra, but a lot of the crap talkers from a year ago aren't present currently.

[tube517]

https://www.steelers.com/team/injury-report/

Tuitt and Gilbert did not practice Friday

[DesertSteel]

https://www.steelers.com/team/injury-report/

Tuitt and Gilbert did not practice Friday
Both ruled out. I have faith in Alu-x2

[Shoes]

Both ruled out. I have faith in Alu-x2

So do I.