Week 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[Edman]

Steelers go on the road to Central Florida to play the 2-0 Tampa Bay Bucs.

As long as the Steelers have a shitty Defense, any game will be a struggle. This team doesn't know wether they're coming or going.

[polamalubeast]

First game for Ben in Tampa since the Super bowl XLIII

[st33lersguy]

2015 Fitzpatrick is playing and has 8 TD passes thus far.

[NCSteeler]

0-2-1. Coming up. Tampa playing lights out well coached good football. Steelers playing street ball lucky to tie the Browns

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[tube517]

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[Fire Goodell]

0-2-1 bucs look good and we don't

[BlackAndGold]

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[j-d-s]

52-35 Bucs, Fitzmagic throwing for 7 TDs

[st33lersguy]

2015 Fitzpatrick will kill this defense. Desean Jackson is definitely torching this talentless secondary for at least one long gain

[j-d-s]

How many TDs will Sutton give up, only two, or three?

[stillers4me]

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[saturdaysarebetter]

This game sure grew in importance after the first two games of the season.

[steelerdude15]

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He looks like a complete dbag.

[Moose]

0-2-1 bucs look good and we don't

Don't even want to think of the final score ! Another embarrassment.

[steel striker]

If the defense does not play better Ben will throw 60 passes and, need to score 45 points for the win.

[43Hitman]

I predict they start to turn it around in Tampa Bay. Can't get much worse, right?

[Fire Goodell]

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Is that conor mcgregor lol

[Born2Steel]

Steelers win by 20.

[EzraTank]

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Did Fitzy bust up his whores after the presser? Gotta keep that pimp hand strong!

[AtlantaDan]

Steelers open as -2&1/2 point favorites against the Bucs, which with that defense I find as puzzling as the Steelers being favored by 4&1/2 over the Chiefs yesterday

At least the over/under reflects the quality of the Black & Gold sieve - 53&1/2 next Monday night after a 52&1/2 over/under for the Chiefs game

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

[Fire Goodell]

off topic but this trend of people with metro beards is just making beards look like a d-bag thing to have unless it's a keisel beard. Once upon a time having a beard used to be a manly thing but not so much anymore

[86WARD]

He looks like a complete dbag.

He’s clearly making a joke.

Bu the same type of beard was really cool when Keisel did it?

[Fire Goodell]

He’s clearly making a joke.

Bu the same type of beard was really cool when Keisel did it?

I don't remember the last time Keisel tried to dress up like machine gun kelly or some d-bag mumble rap artist lol

[Mojouw]

Wow. Lots of people don't have a very good sense of humor. You all get that Fitzmagic doesn't look or dress like that? You get that it was all a joke by a player feeling on a roll after two amazing games?

I mean if you didn't I would wonder how you managed to get from opening your browser to this message board without some sort of disaster befalling you.

[pczach]

Wow. Lots of people don't have a very good sense of humor. You all get that Fitzmagic doesn't look or dress like that? You get that it was all a joke by a player feeling on a roll after two amazing games?

I mean if you didn't I would wonder how you managed to get from opening your browser to this message board without some sort of disaster befalling you.



He had a teammate swag him up in the locker room to make a joke. They weren't his clothes.

People get worked up way too easily sometimes.

[86WARD]

I don't remember the last time Keisel tried to dress up like machine gun kelly or some d-bag mumble rap artist lol

Don’t recall saying anything about his dress. Keisel is cool with a beard and when he dresses like a mountain man. Fitzmagic grows a beard has a little fun with the press and he’s a douche bag...lol.

[Fire Goodell]

Don’t recall saying anything about his dress. Keisel is cool with a beard and when he dresses like a mountain man. Fitzmagic grows a beard has a little fun with the press and he’s a douche bag...lol.

What I'm saying is there's a man beard and a metro beard

[43Hitman]

What I'm saying is there's a man beard and a metro beard

Who cares? Does it affect you in any way? The dude is obviously goofing around, personally, I like it when these guys have fun with it. Have some fun FG that's all this is about.

[Fire Goodell]

Who cares? Does it affect you in any way? The dude is obviously goofing around, personally, I like it when these guys have fun with it. Have some fun FG that's all this is about.

There ain't no having fun when your team is winless lol

Besides biting Connor McGregor's style is mad played out

[Rotorhead]

Well, I thought he looked hilarious FWIW

[43Hitman]

There ain't no having fun when your team is winless lol

Besides biting Connor McGregor's style is mad played out

I can completely understand how you feel. I'm not happy with what I have seen thus far too. I dunno, when I see things like this, I just try to imagine me and buddies goofing off like this and just makes me laugh. Looks fun, to be honest.

[steelerdude15]

He’s clearly making a joke.

Bu the same type of beard was really cool when Keisel did it?

I wasn't aware that he was trying to be funny.

[teegre]

Steelers win by 20.

Pffft... come on, man. There is is no way that that happens. Steelers win by 20???... really? really??? reeeeeally!?!

Steelers win by 17.

[CV1]

At least the buccs will be wearing their normal jerseys...would be horrible to lose to them wearing the Creamsicle Orange [emoji23]


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[hawaiiansteeler]

Pffft... come on, man. There is is no way that that happens. Steelers win by 20???... really? really??? reeeeeally!?!

Steelers win by 17.

I would be okay with the Steelers winning by 1 point:

Steelers 49
Buccaneers 48

[Renegade]

I would be okay with the Steelers winning by 1 point:

Steelers 49
Buccaneers 48
THAT sounds like a game I would very much like to see!

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Steelers win 3-2.

[Fire Goodell]

I predicted us beating the Bucs in the SB 5-3, Bud Dupree being the MVP with 17 sacks and a safety. He said he was saving his sacks for the perfect time so he could get a big contract and guaranteed money. He'll reset the market for OLB's making 40 mil a year. Khalil Mack all of a sudden becomes one of the least paid linebackers in the game.

[86WARD]

They’d really have a better chance if Winston were playing.

Evans, Jackson, Brate and Howard will be unstoppable if the Steelers come out with the same defensive ideas they have in Week One and Two.

[teegre]

I would be okay with the Steelers winning by 1 point:

Yeah... and it would be a win-win.

Those of of us who enjoy wins could celebrate with those whose only enjoyment comes from complaining about any-& every-thing.

“Yeah, we won 49-48... but, the defense sucks.”

Yeah, we won 14-13... but, Ben sux.”

Yeah, we won 49-13... but, Watt only had one sack.”

[tube517]

Yeah... and it would be a win-win.

Those of of us who enjoy wins could celebrate with those whose only enjoyment comes from complaining about any-& every-thing.

“Yeah, we won 49-48... but, the defense sucks.”

Yeah, we won 14-13... but, Ben sux.”

Yeah, we won 49-13... but, Watt only had one sack.”

We won 49-0, But we left 51 points on the field, Fire Fichtner.

[86WARD]

A 49-48 win but the Defense sucks comment is something to be worried about if you view the season as a whole. If you don’t and just view it with blinders on and look at one game...then the defense sucks portion of the comment is just overly negative. Lol

[Born2Steel]

Pffft... come on, man. There is is no way that that happens. Steelers win by 20???... really? really??? reeeeeally!?!

Steelers win by 17.

Ok, compromise. 21

[AtlantaDan]

They’d really have a better chance if Winston were playing.

Evans, Jackson, Brate and Howard will be unstoppable if the Steelers come out with the same defensive ideas they have in Week One and Two.

Bad defense combined with NFL rules changes that make every competent QB a star is a toxic combination
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[tube517]

O-line is banged up.

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[Fire Goodell]

Wow is Vance McDonald not on the injury list? Am I in the twilight zone or something?

[j-d-s]

A 49-48 win but the Defense sucks comment is something to be worried about if you view the season as a whole. If you don’t and just view it with blinders on and look at one game...then the defense sucks portion of the comment is just overly negative. Lol
The problem is that we usually don't win shootouts. Because when our D decides to take a day off, they do just that... letting them score fast and often.

Also, our Offense is not good enough to keep up with that kind of Defensive play. We were down 0-21 after the first quarter, it would be hard for any team to overcome that. 0-14, ok. But 0-21, really slim chance.

We lost 42-45 against JAX and now 37-42.

[teegre]

Ok, compromise. 21

Blackjack!!!

[steel striker]

They got to win this one plus the next two games are in primetime but, this game has me worried a bit. The Bucs have playmakers Jackson and, the TE Howard not to mention the way the defense has problems with the TE'S.

[steelreserve]

Do we have anyone who can replace Sutton if Joe Haden is not ready to go? Because that looks like the real weak point in the secondary. I don't know what happened to the guy, but he does not belong out there right now.

We used to have like 50 up-and-coming DBs, what happened to them?

[Mojouw]

Do we have anyone who can replace Sutton if Joe Haden is not ready to go? Because that looks like the real weak point in the secondary. I don't know what happened to the guy, but he does not belong out there right now.

We used to have like 50 up-and-coming DBs, what happened to them?

Allen is on the practice squad. So he could be promoted. And Coty Sensabaugh is on the roster. After that it is all safeties. Safeties as far as the eye can see...

[stillers4me]

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[Born2Steel]

Since we now know what we have personnel-wise heading to the Tampa game, what changes do you make? The defense is struggling. What are some of your best 'get the ship righted' fixes you would implement this week if you were DC? Rather than just keep dumping on, what should they do differently? Try to keep it football.

[steelreserve]

Since we now know what we have personnel-wise heading to the Tampa game, what changes do you make? The defense is struggling. What are some of your best 'get the ship righted' fixes you would implement this week if you were DC? Rather than just keep dumping on, what should they do differently? Try to keep it football.

Try to get Sutton off the field, and only one of Bostic/Williams on the field at a time, as there is little benefit to having two run-stuffing ILBs who struggle in coverage.

Since 4-3 is a dirty word around here, this would probably mean a 3-3-5 nickel base defense ... Heyward, Tuitt, Hargrave/McCullers ... Watt, Williams/Bostic, Dupree/Makatevich ... Hilton, Burns and Haden if Haden is good to go; Hilton, Burns and your best three safeties if not. (I'd rather have a third safety in a nickel package than Sutton, or probably even Sensabaugh. Edmunds playing the DB/LB "swing" position if needed.) You can swap out a safety and use McCullers and Hargrave as defensive tackles to get a 4-3 if you want to run a hybrid scheme.

On offense, don't run a play selection that is literally 85% passes. And perhaps if the running game is not effective at first, try the other running backs and see if they do any better.

[st33lersguy]

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Can't believe he STILL has a job

[Born2Steel]

Try to get Sutton off the field, and only one of Bostic/Williams on the field at a time, as there is little benefit to having two run-stuffing ILBs who struggle in coverage.

Since 4-3 is a dirty word around here, this would probably mean a 3-3-5 nickel base defense ... Heyward, Tuitt, Hargrave/McCullers ... Watt, Williams/Bostic, Dupree/Makatevich ... Hilton, Burns and Haden if Haden is good to go; Hilton, Burns and your best three safeties if not. (I'd rather have a third safety in a nickel package than Sutton, or probably even Sensabaugh. Edmunds playing the DB/LB "swing" position if needed.) You can swap out a safety and use McCullers and Hargrave as defensive tackles to get a 4-3 if you want to run a hybrid scheme.

On offense, don't run a play selection that is literally 85% passes. And perhaps if the running game is not effective at first, try the other running backs and see if they do any better.

Honestly I would keep Sutton and Edmunds in the rotation getting them live snaps. I would play total "Blitzburgh" this week. Somebody would be coming on every single defensive snap. I'm getting pressure on the QB at least 75% of the plays. This would not have worked vs KC so not saying it would have fixed that mess. But Tampa is not KC.

[j-d-s]

Yeah, they have FitzMagic. He's gonna torch that Defense of ours.

[Born2Steel]

Yeah, they have FitzMagic. He's gonna torch that Defense of ours.

??? Explain.

[Mojouw]

Try to get Sutton off the field, and only one of Bostic/Williams on the field at a time, as there is little benefit to having two run-stuffing ILBs who struggle in coverage.

Since 4-3 is a dirty word around here, this would probably mean a 3-3-5 nickel base defense ... Heyward, Tuitt, Hargrave/McCullers ... Watt, Williams/Bostic, Dupree/Makatevich ... Hilton, Burns and Haden if Haden is good to go; Hilton, Burns and your best three safeties if not. (I'd rather have a third safety in a nickel package than Sutton, or probably even Sensabaugh. Edmunds playing the DB/LB "swing" position if needed.) You can swap out a safety and use McCullers and Hargrave as defensive tackles to get a 4-3 if you want to run a hybrid scheme.

On offense, don't run a play selection that is literally 85% passes. And perhaps if the running game is not effective at first, try the other running backs and see if they do any better.

I agree with this.

[vasteeler]

??? Explain.

Easy, he's on fire and our defense sucks ass

I bet we have to score 45 to win.

[Shoes]

Easy, he's on fire and our defense sucks ass

I bet we have to score 45 to win.



Fitz wins this one he'll be sporting these at the presser.

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[vasteeler]

Fitz wins this one he'll be sporting these at the presser.

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Damn it shoes, now I want him to win...I kid, I kid

[HollywoodSteel]

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How long do you think it took to glue on all that chest hair to complete the look?

[Fire Goodell]

Fitz should get a rainbow grill and color his beard like tekashi 6ix9ine now that'd be hilarious

[Born2Steel]

We have discussed this point at length on here before but here goes again. The 3 main/most important position groups for any team to succeed long term.

1. OL/DL - Steelers are pretty strong with this group
2. QB - Ben. Strong group.
3. Pass rush - Very lacking.

This is why I see this game needing blitz packages to get and keep pressure on the QB. Perfect team to try some things on too. Their biggest 2 threats for Fitz are deep play guys. Gives us an extra step to get there if needed.

[DesertSteel]

We have discussed this point at length on here before but here goes again. The 3 main/most important position groups for any team to succeed long term.

1. OL/DL - Steelers are pretty strong with this group
2. QB - Ben. Strong group.
3. Pass rush - Very lacking.

This is why I see this game needing blitz packages to get and keep pressure on the QB. Perfect team to try some things on too. Their biggest 2 threats for Fitz are deep play guys. Gives us an extra step to get there if needed.
Interestingly, most of us would agree on #3 even though the team led the league in sacks in 2017 and is tied for 3rd after two games.

[Born2Steel]

Interestingly, most of us would agree on #3 even though the team led the league in sacks in 2017 and is tied for 3rd after two games.

With the new rules and our guys just not getting there I really don't know where to place the blame. What I do know is Mahomes had all day to pick his throws last week. I say take some chances and hit the QB this week. Let's see how it gets called.

[steelerdude15]

We have discussed this point at length on here before but here goes again. The 3 main/most important position groups for any team to succeed long term.

1. OL/DL - Steelers are pretty strong with this group
2. QB - Ben. Strong group.
3. Pass rush - Very lacking.

This is why I see this game needing blitz packages to get and keep pressure on the QB. Perfect team to try some things on too. Their biggest 2 threats for Fitz are deep play guys. Gives us an extra step to get there if needed.

I would like to see some safety or corner blitzes occasionally.

[teegre]

Interestingly, most of us would agree on #3 even though the team led the league in sacks in 2017 and is tied for 3rd after two games.

True

I’d rather have 20 hurries per game (than 5 sacks per game).

[st33lersguy]

Cleveland just beat the Jets, so if Pittsburgh loses, they will be in last place and the only team in the AFC North without a win. Pressure is on

[teegre]

Cleveland just beat the Jets, so if Pittsburgh loses, they will be in last place and the only team in the AFC North without a win. Pressure is on

Mayfield is the real deal. That Browns jersey may just end with his name (for the next decade).


Because, even though his first two drives were only two FGs, there absolutely was an immediate change of attitude.

[st33lersguy]

Mayfield is the real deal. That Browns jersey may just end with his name (for the next decade).


Because, even though his first two drives were only two FGs, there absolutely was an immediate change of attitude.

Premature after 1 half, plus this still is a team coached by Hue Jackson and owned by Jimmy Haslam. If Pittsburgh falls behind Cleveland record wise, it would be a disaster

[j-d-s]

The Browns always find a way to Brown it up. Like Blocked Field Goals returned for TDs as time expires.

[86WARD]

True

I’d rather have 20 hurries per game (than 5 sacks per game).

They’re already in last place.

[teegre]

Premature after 1 half, plus this still is a team coached by Hue Jackson and owned by Jimmy Haslam. If Pittsburgh falls behind Cleveland record wise, it would be a disaster

True... one game (one half) does not a player make.

But, if anyone watched the game, there was a palpable difference once Baker stepped onto the field.

[teegre]

They’re already in last place.

Where/How do you find those stats? Really. I tried Googling it, and couldn’t find anything.


I did find this, which is interesting because it says that we were 5th in hurries in 2017 (I would have guessed much lower).
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/defense-and-pass-pressure-2017

[Born2Steel]

Interestingly, most of us would agree on #3 even though the team led the league in sacks in 2017 and is tied for 3rd after two games.

I don't know the numbers. What I do know is we need to put more pressure on the QB. Even if no other team in the league gets a sack all season, this team needs to pressure the QB.

[86WARD]

Injury Report isn’t looking great...

CB Joe Haden (Hamstring) - Full
S Morgan Burnett (Groin) - DNP
C Maurkice Pouncey (Coaches Decision) - Full
G David DeCastro (Hand) - DNP
G Ramon Foster (Knee) - Full
OT Marcus Gilbert (Hamstring) - DNP
DE Stephon Tuitt (Illness) - DNP
DE Tyson Alualu (Shoulder) - Full

[Fire Goodell]

Tuitt's gonna play unless he caught ebola or something

[Dwinsgames]

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[Craic]

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You know, it starting to feel as though it's going to be one of those years that regardless of what happens, we're not going to do well. Ben might throw for 10 TDs a game, but we'll get enough injuries and penalties to negate it. The defense might become the best defense in the history of the NFL, but then we'll lose half the team to leprosy and the other half to alien abductions.

[Shoes]

You know, it starting to feel as though it's going to be one of those years that regardless of what happens, we're not going to do well. Ben might throw for 10 TDs a game, but we'll get enough injuries and penalties to negate it. The defense might become the best defense in the history of the NFL, but then we'll lose half the team to leprosy and the other half to alien abductions.


I'm normally a homer, but these are my feelings exactly Preach! I'd be really surprised if we win Monday night, I think this team has shit-canned the compass.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I'm normally a homer, but these are my feelings exactly Preach! I'd be really surprised if we win Monday night, I think this team has shit-canned the compass.

Mighty Steelers 49
The Fuckinears 48

[HollywoodSteel]

I would like to see some safety or corner blitzes occasionally.

I agree. Since our defensive schemes seem to leave 3 receivers uncovered per play, we might as well have ALL of our safeties and corners rushing the QB. At least they’d be doing something interesting.

[Crow-Magnon]

True... one game (one half) does not a player make.

But, if anyone watched the game, there was a palpable difference once Baker stepped onto the field.

It was like the turbocharger kicked in. No doubt that partial game does not a season or career make. But Mayfield looked both crisp...and confident. Something not seen ina Browns QB in a long time.

[Edman]

It was like the turbocharger kicked in. No doubt that partial game does not a season or career make. But Mayfield looked both crisp...and confident. Something not seen ina Browns QB in a long time.

Derek Anderson went to a Pro Bowl as a Browns QB in 2007. Brian Hoyer (Yes, that Brian Hoyer) looked like the savior in 2014.

The Browns have had their teases before they crashed and burned. Be careful about crowning Baker Mayfield as the next big thing after just one half of football.

[Renegade]

Ah the difference a week makes. If the Steelers win in Tampa, all of a sudden a winless team through 2 weeks, sits at 500. This is the beginning of the turnaround. Ben and Brown GO OFF!! Let's go Steelers!

[saturdaysarebetter]

Who would have thought a game in Week 3 would be a must win?

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Who would have thought a game in Week 3 would be a must win? It's not a must win but a important one. If this was vs a AFC team I would say it's very close to a must win.

[86WARD]

Ah the difference a week makes. If the Steelers win in Tampa, all of a sudden a winless team through 2 weeks, sits at 500. This is the beginning of the turnaround. Ben and Brown GO OFF!! Let's go Steelers!

I think AB does breakout tonight. I think Mike Evans may as well and they can’t sleep on Godwin. Could be another shootout...

[Mojouw]

OJ Howard is going to eat this defense alive.

[Iron Steeler]

Pffft... come on, man. There is is no way that that happens. Steelers win by 20???... really? really??? reeeeeally!?!

Steelers win by 17.

Comedic timing is hard to pull off in a typed forum... but this is how its done.

Steelers win by 4 in a nail-biting finish

[GBMelBlount]

2015 Fitzpatrick is playing and has 8 TD passes thus far.

Holding them to just 4 touchdowns in the air is like pitching a shutout as far as the Steelers are concerned right now!

[j-d-s]

I bet on Fitzmagic throwing at least two long TD passes.

[BlackAndGold]

Artie Burns has been benched for Coty.

[Born2Steel]

Wow! That's really big.


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[43Hitman]

I predict they start to turn it around in Tampa Bay. Can't get much worse, right?


I'm still feeling this. We win by at least 10 tonight. Bank on it!

[pczach]

Artie Burns has been benched for Coty.


I wonder how much of it is based on performance, and how much of it is for losing his mind on the field and taking that horrible penalty?

I don't know if we will ever know for sure, but it probably has something to do with both. It could be Tomlin making an example out of someone that isn't using his head on the field, and wants everyone to know that there may be consequences for not keeping it tight.

[Born2Steel]

Weather alert issued 40 mins ago. All parking lots closed. Stay in your cars until further notice. WTF?????


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[43Hitman]

Weather alert issued 40 mins ago. All parking lots closed. Stay in your cars until further notice. WTF?????


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Bad lightning storm

[Born2Steel]

Bad lightning storm

Must be. That does not bode well for football.


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[Mojouw]

This is gonna be a blowout. Nothing to date indicates the Steelers defense can match up with the Bucs weapons.


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[Devilsdancefloor]

tired of hearing about fitz magic he is a journeyman QB for a reason HERE WE GO!

[Polamalu Princess]

Let's go Steelers!!! :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Devilsdancefloor]

laundry already

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well damn

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3 and out not really what was needed

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nice hit by haden!!!

[Polamalu Princess]

Need to get fired up!!!!

[GoSlash27]

'dat stiff arm tho' xD

[NCSteeler]

Haha. Boz is just fucked. Dude has lost the MOJO

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[stillers4me]

You guys can move rhis conversation to the game day thread. No nee to have two threads going. Thanks