Final Roster Cuts

[stillers4me]

Post'em here..........



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[Dwinsgames]

no surprises thus far

[43Hitman]

Berry for Wilde will be a surprise

[Dwinsgames]

Berry for Wilde will be a surprise

or Shane Lechler

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"Two players that weren't released and appear to be in the clear to making the roster are undrafted rookie linebackers Ola Adeniyi (https://247sports.com/Player/Ola-Adeniyi-29308) and Matthew Thomas (https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Thomas-13431)."

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Ola-Adeniyi-Matthew-Thomas-on-their-way-to-making-53-man-roster-121271667

[teegre]

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There goes Sex Machine.

[Craic]

There goes Sex Machine.

:buttkick:

I was searching google for pics (building a lecture for school) and wondered what you meant by that, so I dropped "sex machine" into the search not thinking . . .

[43Hitman]

or Shane Lechler

He's good, but long in the tooth. Personally, I would prefer the young big leg versus the old big leg.

[teegre]

:buttkick:

I was searching google for pics (building a lecture for school) and wondered what you meant by that, so I dropped "sex machine" into the search not thinking . . .

I chuckled out loud thinking about that. :lol:

It reminds of the story about the mechanic who Googled “messed up tranny”...

[Craic]

I chuckled out loud thinking about that. :lol:

It reminds of the story about the mechanic who Googled “messed up tranny”...

:lol: now I just laughed out loud at "messed up tranny." Of course, there's the famous facebook video of some kid using Alexa (or one of those things) to call up Digger Digger, only, with his pronunciation, it sounded like Dick'er Dick'er. You can imagine the result.

[teegre]

:lol: now I just laughed out loud at "messed up tranny." Of course, there's the famous facebook video of some kid using Alexa (or one of those things) to call up Digger Digger, only, with his pronunciation, it sounded like Dick'er Dick'er. You can imagine the result.

:applaudit:

Speaking of kids’ miscues (since this thread is already derailed)... when my daughter was a toddler, she used to call it a “fridge for later”, which makes total sense when you say it n a sentence: “I’m going to put it in the fridge... for later.”

[BlackAndGold]

Colts released pass rusher John Simon.

Cut Chickillo, sign Simon.

[DesertSteel]

I chuckled out loud thinking about that. :lol:

It reminds of the story about the mechanic who Googled “messed up tranny”...

What about when Steelers line coach Larry Zierlein inadvertently sent porn via email to the entire NFL --- about 10 years ago IIRC.

[Dwinsgames]

David Amerson, CB cut by colts ... talk about a guy miscast .... He is a S that can play corner but he is a Safety..... teams have been using him as a Corner pretty much his whole career .... if we " needed a Safety , that's the guy I would go after but damn we are swimming in safeties this year )

[BlackAndGold]

Landry Jones has been cut. Wow

So has Nat Berhe


https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1035977108521189379

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[Mojouw]

Colts released pass rusher John Simon.

Cut Chickillo, sign Simon.

Immediately


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[BlackAndGold]

Keion Adams, Brian Allen also released.

[Hawkman]

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BOOM

Glad I didn’t have any money on that.:heh:

[Craic]

Landry Jones has been cut. Wow

So has Nat Berhe


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YES!!!!!

[Shoes]

Landry Jones has been cut. Wow

So has Nat Berhe


https://twitter.com/steelers/status/1035977108521189379


LMAO! Good, go young!

[Craic]

Final cut list:

Matt Wile, running backs Jarvion Franklin, James Summers and Fitzgerald Toussaint, wide receivers Trey Griffey, Quadree Henderson and Tevin Jones, tight ends Bucky Hodges, Pharoah McKever and Christian Scotland-Williamson, offensive linemen Larson Graham, Patrick Morris, Oni Omoile, R.J. Prince, Jake Rodgers and Chris Schleuger, cornerbacks Brian Allen, Dashaun Phillips, Malik Reaves and Jamar Summers, linebackers Keion Adams, Matt Galambos and Farrington Huguenin, and defensive linemen Parker Cothren, Joshua Frazier, Greg Gilmore, Lavon Hooks, Casey Sayles and Kendal Vickers.
In addition, the team designated several players waived/injured, including wide receivers Damoun Patterson and Marcus Tucker, offensive lineman Joseph Cheek, safety Malik Golden and linebacker Keith Kelsey. The team also placed wide receiver Eli Rogers on the Reserve/PUP List.

[86WARD]

Didn’t think they would have the balls to cut Jones. It was the right decision though after seeing Dobbs play in the preseason. Before the preseason games started, I didn’t think Jones should go but after watching Dobbs and Rudolph play, I think it’s the right choice for the future. Wish Jones the best of luck somewhere.

[GoSlash27]

The team terminated vested veterans quarterback Landry Jones and safety Nat Berhe.

The team released the following players: punter Matt Wile, running backs Jarvion Franklin, James Summers and Fitzgerald Toussaint, wide receivers Trey Griffey, Quadree Henderson and Tevin Jones, tight ends Bucky Hodges, Pharoah McKever and Christian Scotland-Williamson, offensive linemen Larson Graham, Patrick Morris, Oni Omoile, R.J. Prince, Jake Rodgers and Chris Schleuger, cornerbacks Brian Allen, Dashaun Phillips, Malik Reaves and Jamar Summers, linebackers Keion Adams, Matt Galambos and Farrington Huguenin, and defensive linemen Parker Cothren, Joshua Frazier, Greg Gilmore, Lavon Hooks, Casey Sayles and Kendal Vickers.

In addition, the team designated several players waived/injured, including wide receivers Damoun Patterson and Marcus Tucker, offensive lineman Joseph Cheek, safety Malik Golden and linebacker Keith Kelsey. The team also placed wide receiver Eli Rogers on the Reserve/PUP List.
https://www.steelers.com/news/steelers-reduce-roster-to-53

So it looks like Dobbs will be the new backup. I'm sure he's up to the task.

Best,
-Slashy

[st33lersguy]

Did the right thing at QB. However I did wish they would have cut grimble instead of Hodges

[Shoes]

https://www.steelers.com/news/steelers-reduce-roster-to-53

So it looks like Dobbs will be the new backup. I'm sure he's up to the task.

Best,
-Slashy

Or Mason.

[BlackAndGold]

Were the Steelers that impressed by Dobbs, or do they believe Rudolph is the #2 QB?

If they think Rudolph is the #2, then cutting Jones was easily a no brainer.

[Mojouw]

Allen and Adams are kinda surprising. I guess they try and sneak on the practice squad?


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[Shoes]

Did the right thing at QB. However I did wish they would have cut grimble instead of Hodges

Agreed, not so sure about that move.

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Were the Steelers that impressed by Dobbs, or do they believe Rudolph is the #2 QB?

If they think Rudolph is the #2, then cutting Jones was easily a no brainer.

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Allen and Adams are kinda surprising. I guess they try and sneak on the practice squad?


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That took me by surprise also. I thought Allen really stepped up his game, but maybe they have eyes for someone else.

[Hawkman]

Wile was better than Berry in pre-season......maybe he was a terrible holder.

[B&G]

All you keep hearing is that if Ben gets hurt, that the team NEEDS Landry to step in and Dobbs/Mason are not ready to fill in. Have these people been watching the same games I have? We know for a fact that Landry would definitly not be able to carry us for any length of time. I wish him the best of luck, but he just wasnt getting it done in Pittsburgh.

[BlackAndGold]

Wile was better than Berry in pre-season......maybe he was a terrible holder.

They should still be finding a better upgrade but they like Berry's "directional" punting.

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Wish they kept Brain Allen over Dangerfield.

Still surprised they cut Keion Adams.

[Hawkman]

Still surprised they cut Keion Adams.

That was the one I was most surprised about. Thought he looked good in pre-season.

[BlackAndGold]

That was the one I was most surprised about. Thought he looked good in pre-season.

Not sure he recorded a sack but he had a lot of pressures. Meh in run support and in coverage. Hopefully he makes the PS

[BlackAndGold]

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[AtlantaDan]

Jones being cut is a shocker to me

Props to those (including but not limited to Dwinsgames) arguing for Jones being the odd man out :drink:

[86WARD]

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Doing the same with Jones to buy time to trade Dobbs...lol.

[BlackAndGold]

In other news the Raider have released Martavis Bryant

[Shoes]

In other news the Raider have released Martavis Bryant

Gruden is going to be run out of town before the season starts.

[BlackAndGold]

Gruden is going to be run out of town before the season starts.

The Raiders were projected to be on the rise as the move to Vegas. Smh, they've been a dumpster fire the entire Summer.

[Shoes]

I think the Steelers have to do something at TE. Can't count on old McDonald, maybe grab Bucky again?

[teegre]

The Raiders were projected to be on the rise as the move to Vegas. Smh, they've been a dumpster fire the entire Summer.

Gruden has all his money on the Raidahs’ prop bets...

[BlackAndGold]

Gruden has all his money on the Raidahs’ prop bets...

Has there ever been a coach that has been hired and fired in less than a year? He's deserving.

[teegre]

Has there ever been a coach that has been hired and fired in less than a year? He's deserving.

That guy there, man... Khalil is big & strong like a bear... that’s why I traded him, man... because, a bear should be a Bear. See what I did there? Uh... what was the question???

[AtlantaDan]

In other news the Raider have released Martavis Bryant

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[Shoes]

https://www.steelers.com/news/steelers-reduce-roster-to-53

[BlackAndGold]

That guy there, man... Khalil is big & strong like a bear... that’s why I traded him, man... because, a bear should be a Bear. See what I did there? Uh... what was the question???

if you told me that was a real quote from Gruden, I'd believe it.

[HollywoodSteel]

Has there ever been a coach that has been hired and fired in less than a year? He's deserving.

You mean one with a hundred million dollar contract? Sure, happens all the time. ;)

In Gruden’s defense, the Bryant thing CLEARLY has to do with a suspension that he didn’t know anything about when he traded for Bryant. Now, obviously as Steelers fans we have our own perspective about Bryant now, but Gruden took a swing for the fences... those don’t always pay off, but I like that he’s a coach willing to take some chances rather than just make the obvious conservative moves that everyone else does. Bryant had HUGE upside...

And the Mack situation isn’t exactly Gruden’s doing. He stepped into a situation that he had no part in creating. Mack is only a problem until they sign him or get two first round picks for him. I don’t think Gruden has done anything that you could call a clear mistake in that situation.

[Mojouw]

I guess we will wait and see what happens over the next day or so, but some head scratchers for me.

I would’ve likely tried and keep Adams around. He generated some decent pressure. If he sneaks onto the PS, fine, but if he takes off that just really zaps what little OLB depth there was.

What is the obsession with Jordan Dangerfield. That dude doesn’t do squat. How many slow bad in coverage box safeties does one roster need? They have 3 versions of the same guy if Berne comes back in him, Dangerfield, and Allen.

Also, Sensabaugh over Brian ALlen? Seems early to give up on the guy. Maybe he joins Adams on the practice squad?

I had a funny feeling that Banner would make the team. Massive human being with his weight under control and moderately decent feet? Coach Munch Project might as well be tattooed on his forehead.

WOnder who the IR guy is? Grimble? Hilton?

[BlackAndGold]

Brian Allen >> Dangerfield.

But I think Burnett will go on IR. Trying to make sense of having 6 safeties(Berhe returning tomorrow)

[Mojouw]

Brian Allen >> Dangerfield.

But I think Burnett will go on IR. Trying to make sense of having 6 safeties(Berhe returning tomorrow)
Burnett to IR sucks. He would have been a really big improvement. I shudder to think of 3 safety package featuring Davis, Edmunds, and Dangerfield. OR as I suspect we will refer to them Dumb, Green, and Not Good.

[BlackAndGold]

Burnett to IR sucks. He would have been a really big improvement. I shudder to think of 3 safety package featuring Davis, Edmunds, and Dangerfield. OR as I suspect we will refer to them Dumb, Green, and Not Good.

It'll be short term but agreed. Feel more comfortable with Burnett starting. Edmunds has looked good though.

[Mojouw]

It'll be short term but agreed. Feel more comfortable with Burnett starting. Edmunds has looked good though.

He has. But wait until OC's and QBs start gameplanning to sucker him. Think Anthony Smith or Shamarko biting on play fakes. He is a rookie, its gonna happen.

Davis is essentially a rookie as the free safety.

Burns is dumb as a box of rocks. So that leaves the other CB to ride herd on all those guys. If it is indeed Burnett out for 6=8 weeks, they better hope Bradley can coach his ass off.

[HollywoodSteel]

That took me by surprise also. I thought Allen really stepped up his game, but maybe they have eyes for someone else.

I was also surprised, and a little worried, about those cuts.

But the more I think about it, the more I’m convinced it’s easier to sneak those guys onto the PS then we initially think it might be.

Other teams are having just as hard a time cutting their talented, but not quite good enough, players. They all have their own version of Allen and Adams that they are hoping to keep on their Practice Squads. I doubt any team is gonna cut ANOTHER one of their own darlings to put Allen or Adams on their active 53. These are developmental players. They aren’t ready to get a hat on Sundays yet. Other teams have their own projects. They don’t really want to make room for ours.

[Steeldude]

LMAO! Good, go young!

So now the Steelers have no experienced backup. Hopefully they cut/trade Dobbs and then sign a veteran QB.

[Dwinsgames]

That was the one I was most surprised about. Thought he looked good in pre-season.

he was getting disruptions , but what I noticed esp in the last game he could get into the backfield but did not have the closing speed needed to close the deal .. QB's simple moved and scampered away 2x the speed he was moving after them

[HollywoodSteel]

I read that Matakevich is still practice squad eligible. There’s one guy who won’t get poached. And at this point, I don’t want him on the field unless both Bostic and Thomas are injured.

We have enough special teams guys without the Red Roadkill getting a hat on Sundays. ;)

[Dwinsgames]

I think the Steelers have to do something at TE. Can't count on old McDonald, maybe grab Bucky again?

Jace Amaro perhaps ? as he was released today

many loved him predraft a few years back

cutting Hodges basically leaves us with just 1 healthy TE ..that's risky and leaves you short handed in some packages

[HollywoodSteel]

he was getting disruptions , but what I noticed esp in the last game he could get into the backfield but did not have the closing speed needed to close the deal .. QB's simple moved and scampered away 2x the speed he was moving after them

But he did recover that fumble, ran it back for the TD, and kept the ball like his own personal trophy... even though the TD didn’t count.

If I was the “Turk” cutting Adams I would tell him, “go see Coach Tomlin. Bring your playbook and that game ball you tried to keep.”

Actually, I’m almost sure I would NOT say that to Adams. I could never do the job of telling people they are cut.

It’s hard out there for a Turk.

[HollywoodSteel]

he was getting disruptions , but what I noticed esp in the last game he could get into the backfield but did not have the closing speed needed to close the deal .. QB's simple moved and scampered away 2x the speed he was moving after them

Wait, are you talking about Adams or Dupree? Sounds very similar. Maybe we should just switch Adams to whatever side he isn’t currently playing. If the QB doesn’t see him coming, problem solved. ;)

(Yes, I know Dupree’s problem isn’t exactly the same. Dupree isn’t slow. But he does somehow manage to get into the backfield without touching the QB. It seems like many players could get more sacks if only they weren’t seen. Instead of moving guys around, we need to invest in some invisibility cloaks. Or maybe Ninja lessons. Why am I the only one who comes up with practical solutions?)

[Dwinsgames]

So now the Steelers have no experienced backup. Hopefully they cut/trade Dobbs and then sign a veteran QB.

ohhh hell no

Dobbs was drafted for the future , then they fell in love with Rudolph while still engaged to Dobbs ....

now they have the benefit of keeping them both around for awhile to see who succeeds in birthing more Lombardi's post Ben

[Edman]

All you keep hearing is that if Ben gets hurt, that the team NEEDS Landry to step in and Dobbs/Mason are not ready to fill in. Have these people been watching the same games I have? We know for a fact that Landry would definitly not be able to carry us for any length of time. I wish him the best of luck, but he just wasnt getting it done in Pittsburgh.

The games where Landry Jones filled in for Ben, that didn't involve a virtually meaningless game against the Browns were 2015 in Kansas City and 2016 against New England. The Steelers lost both games. Landry threw a horrid red zone INT in the latter.

His other "win" was against the Browns in 2015. Where he played a series, got hurt, never came back, Ben stepped in and won the game.

Landry Jones' highest moment was coming off the bench against the Cardinals and throwing two TD's to Bryant. That was as good as he was going to get, and he was never that good ever again.

Compare Charlie Batch, who came in and won a big time game in Baltimore in 2012 to keep the Steelers postseason hopes alive (Before they fell apart of course).

I get it, not every guy is going to be a Nick Foles or Jeff Hostetler, but you gotta have a backup who can come in and make plays and make things happen. A guy who can inspire and create hope for the team. Landry wasn't getting it done.

[HollywoodSteel]

Jace Amaro perhaps ? as he was released today

many loved him predraft a few years back

cutting Hodges basically leaves us with just 1 healthy TE ..that's risky and leaves you short handed in some packages

I’m guessing they’ll put Bucky on the PS and then activate him if Vance isn’t ready to go against the Browns.

It seems to me like TE is a difficult position to plug and play. According to Big Ben, the TE needs to have more working knowledge of the offense than any other player on the field (besides the QB).

Hodges will at least have a little more of a head start than any player we could pull from a different team.

But if you think Vance is gonna be off the field for more than a week and/or Grimble should be replaced rather than let him return when healthy, then yes, I agree that the Steelers need to get someone NOW, and start getting that guy acclimated to the offense ASAP.

[pczach]

Here I was hoping that Marcus Allen wasn't cut, and it was Brian Allen that was cut.

I didn't see that one coming, especially since he was getting much more physical and improved his tackling. I think he had shown improvement and has much more upside than some of the guys they kept.

The DHB phenomenon continues.....

[Shoes]

So now the Steelers have no experienced backup. Hopefully they cut/trade Dobbs and then sign a veteran QB.

Jones had more experience eating sunflower seeds than playing time, but at least he spit the shells in a cup. :chuckle:

[Dwinsgames]

I’m guessing they’ll put Bucky on the PS and then activate him if Vance isn’t ready to go against the Browns.

It seems to me like TE is a difficult position to plug and play. According to Big Ben, the TE needs to have more working knowledge of the offense than any other player on the field (besides the QB).

Hodges will at least have a little more of a head start than any player we could pull from a different team.

But if you think Vance is gonna be off the field for more than a week and/or Grimble should be replaced rather than let him return when healthy, then yes, I agree that the Steelers need to get someone NOW, and start getting that guy acclimated to the offense ASAP.

Personally I do not see grimble being any more worthy of a roster spot than Hodges , maybe less so if honest ..Grimble is a D+ blocker Hodges was an F blocker but seems to have vastly improved in his short stay here to equal what Grimble brings ...Hodges has a knack for getting open deeper down field than Grimble ( I suspect his straight line speed helps there ) Grimble is hurt , Hodges is not ... so if it was me I go with Hodges ... cut the X man and see how it plays out as nobody is going to sign grimble anyways esp hurt ...

[Shoes]

Personally I do not see grimble being any more worthy of a roster spot than Hodges , maybe less so if honest ..Grimble is a D+ blocker Hodges was an F blocker but seems to have vastly improved in his short stay here to equal what Grimble brings ...Hodges has a knack for getting open deeper down field than Grimble ( I suspect his straight line speed helps there ) Grimble is hurt , Hodges is not ... so if it was me I go with Hodges ... cut the X man and see how it plays out as nobody is going to sign grimble anyways esp hurt ...

Agreed, Bucky has suction cup hands and speed but needs work in the blocking department.

[BlackAndGold]

With Vance always getting hurt, Grimble's blocking abilty is extremely valuable. Hope Hodges is back on the PS.

Anyways, really hope Colbert brings Simon in. No one else is standing out in the notable cuts form what I've seen.

[Dwinsgames]

With Vance always getting hurt, Grimble's blocking abilty is extremely valuable. Hope Hodges is back on the PS.

Anyways, really hope Colbert brings Simon in. No one else is standing out in the notable cuts form what I've seen.

I am seeing a ton of young guys that where drafted rounds 2-4 in the past couple years that you have to wonder if teams gave up on to soon or perhaps the fit was never right ?? ... and some vets but most of the vets are of pos of strength of the current roster , ( such as but not limited to DE Michael Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/player/michaeljohnson/2507784/profile) NT Carl Davis (http://www.nfl.com/player/carldavis/2552280/profile)G Nico Siragusa (http://www.nfl.com/player/nicosiragusa/2557874/profile),DE John Simon (http://www.nfl.com/player/johnsimon/2539280/profile) RB Mike Gillislee (http://www.nfl.com/player/mikegillislee/2539663/profile) LB Kevin Minter (http://www.nfl.com/player/kevinminter/2540159/profile)TE Clive Walford (http://www.nfl.com/player/clivewalford/2552397/profile) ) Kevin Pierre-Louis (http://www.nfl.com/player/kevinpierre-louis/2543563/profile) is intriguing think I prefer him to Dirty red, he is more of a run and hit guy

[BlackAndGold]

I am seeing a ton of young guys that where drafted rounds 2-4 in the past couple years that you have to wonder if teams gave up on to soon or perhaps the fit was never right ?? ... and some vets but most of the vets are of pos of strength of the current roster , ( such as but not limited to DE Michael Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/player/michaeljohnson/2507784/profile) NT Carl Davis (http://www.nfl.com/player/carldavis/2552280/profile)G Nico Siragusa (http://www.nfl.com/player/nicosiragusa/2557874/profile),DE John Simon (http://www.nfl.com/player/johnsimon/2539280/profile) RB Mike Gillislee (http://www.nfl.com/player/mikegillislee/2539663/profile) LB Kevin Minter (http://www.nfl.com/player/kevinminter/2540159/profile)TE Clive Walford (http://www.nfl.com/player/clivewalford/2552397/profile) ) Kevin Pierre-Louis (http://www.nfl.com/player/kevinpierre-louis/2543563/profile) is intriguing think I prefer him to Dirty red, he is more of a run and hit guy

Minter could be a solid add, get some info from the Bengals in the meantime. Not that we need it, just to get more laughs from their misery. (Just noticed he was no longer on the Bengals, was cut from the Jets smh)

I agree on KPL. Great athlete but believe he's serving a 1 game suspension.

Walford sure didn't live up to the hype. Crazy that the Steelers got the best TE(James) from the 2015 class. Class that had Maxx Williams as the #1 TE, also a bust.

[Mojouw]

Does anyone know when veteran contracts guarantee? I fully realize I could look it up but I don’t want to.

Guessing that any non-practice squad guys wont get added to the 53 man roster until after that happens. Then if they need an easy cut later...

[Dwinsgames]

after week 1 if i am understanding the question properly

[Mojouw]

after week 1 if i am understanding the question properly

That sounds right. Might be some roster churn then?

[Dwinsgames]

That sounds right. Might be some roster churn then?

may be an IR move sooner rather than later ..... and it might be Morgan Burnett ( grapevine stuff so don't hold me to it )

[43Hitman]

Surprised about the Wile, Keion Adams cuts. I thought KA had some upside and Wile clearly out dueled Berry in the punting game.

[Steeldude]

ohhh hell no

Dobbs was drafted for the future , then they fell in love with Rudolph while still engaged to Dobbs ....

now they have the benefit of keeping them both around for awhile to see who succeeds in birthing more Lombardi's post Ben

I wouldn't trust either to take the reigns if BR gets hurt. There are only 16 games. Couple that with how poorly the defense plays and how the Steelers struggle vs bad teams is so risky.

[Butch]

I wouldn't trust either to take the reigns if BR gets hurt. There are only 16 games. Couple that with how poorly the defense plays and how the Steelers struggle vs bad teams is so risky.
yeah it's risky but you have to do what you think is in the best for the team, be it Win Now or going forward. I wasn't sold on Dobbs but I also wasn't impressed with Jones either. I was not lucky enough to see any practices but I am guessing that something in practice and in the last pre-season game was enough to sell the front office on who they wanted to keep. More times than not they make the right decision IMHO. Maybe Dobbs was better at getting more out of the offense than Jones was or maybe his athletic abilities pushed him over the top. IDK but I am interested in seeing how he develops. Rudolph too for that matter.

[Craic]

I wouldn't trust either to take the reigns if BR gets hurt. There are only 16 games. Couple that with how poorly the defense plays and how the Steelers struggle vs bad teams is so risky.

Yes, but going into a three or four game stretch with Jones as your QB is even riskier with this defense. Jones would take whatever you gave him, and he'd play decent for that. But Dobbs creates and challenges. Jones might not lose a game for you, but he won't win one for you either. Dobbs has the better chance of going out and winning a needed game. So, I'm very happy he's on the roster.

Another thing people forget is that Jones's big TD pass and win when he came in for Vick had very little to do with Jones and everything to do with a defense playing "Stop the Run at All Costs because Vick ain't Throwing the Ball!"

[Steeldude]

Yes, but going into a three or four game stretch with Jones as your QB is even riskier with this defense. Jones would take whatever you gave him, and he'd play decent for that. But Dobbs creates and challenges. Jones might not lose a game for you, but he won't win one for you either. Dobbs has the better chance of going out and winning a needed game. So, I'm very happy he's on the roster.

Another thing people forget is that Jones's big TD pass and win when he came in for Vick had very little to do with Jones and everything to do with a defense playing "Stop the Run at All Costs because Vick ain't Throwing the Ball!"

Jones was a better option than the rookies. Rudolph is just as good as Dobb and basically the same experience. I would rather have a veteran and rookie as 2 and 3. If Jones struggles or can't create then throw in the young gun. Now what if the young guns crumble under the pressure. Why not have a game manager with experience while BR is mending? Just my opinion. You make a valid point also.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Keeping 4 RB on the roster might mean they think Bell could hold out for some time before signing the tag. I think they had to plan for it and go with Connor and Ridley as primary ballcarriers.

I like the Marcus Allen making the cut. A young safety that can tackle interests me more than a #6CB who was a converted WR.

[Cyphon25]

I have my crow to eat and some.....What do you eat when you are right?

- I thought for sure Marcus Allen wasn't making the roster and he did. I ain't mad at it he just definitely didn't earn it. I think there is a chance he still gets cut and ends up on the practice squad because word is they are signing Behre back to the squad here soon. If Allen remains on I am guessing he will mostly be a gameday inactive.

- Landry Jones was the biggest surprise for me. Would have bet a good bit of money he wasn't getting cut. As much as I was for the idea of keeping the solid vet backup I am actually excited we have the 2 young guys. I think they have shown enough that I would take watching more exciting games from them (for the good and bad) than seeing more mundane Landry Jones play. I liked Jones and wish him the best but he was a booooooring QB.

- I don't even know if it is worth bragging about because everyone should have already known it but DHB was a lock as I said the whole time. You just don't get rid of that ST value and locker room leadership if you don't have someone far and away better at the receiver position to replace him. Patterson, Tucker, Hunter, Switzer, etc....None of those guys are significantly better than DHB as a receiver.

- The one I will brag about is Sensabaugh. Have said from almost the start of camp he had a good chance of making this roster and he did. I even posted on the Depot last week that I thought he was actually the 5th corner and Brian Allen was number 6 and sure enough Allen was cut (although I thought they would keep Allen as a 6th).

I missed some other calls like Keion Adams making it but he wasn't a player I was ever adamant in talking up or anything. Just kind of had him by default. I am glad Ola made it though. They need to dress him and on some third and longs let him pin his ears back and go.

[Dwinsgames]

I have my crow to eat and some.....What do you eat when you are right?




Steak when right Crow when wrong ... when its a mix of right and wrong portions are served accordingly ... that said no credit is given for the ones a 2nd grader could get right such as Ben AB , JuJu etc etc so basically roster spot 45-53 is all ya have to be credited/condemned for

[Cyphon25]

Steak when right Crow when wrong ... when its a mix of right and wrong portions are served accordingly ... that said no credit is given for the ones a 2nd grader could get right such as Ben AB , JuJu etc etc so basically roster spot 45-53 is all ya have to be credited/condemned for

Sounds good to me, thanks for the info. Yeah I can't imagine bragging about predicting Ben and AB lol.

[polamalubeast]

Good thing Landry Jones is cut since he was the 4th best QB on this roster

I do not understand why Mark Madden lost his mind on the release of Jones.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Good thing Landry Jones is cut since he was the 4th best QB on this roster

I do not understand why Mark Madden lost his mind on the release of Jones.

I think Rudolph is the future and might be the #2 in the near future, but Madden is probably in his true pessimistic style, worrying about injury to Ben this season and not having a competent QB that can carry the Steelers a few games. Its a valid concern, but better to not think of worst case scenario IMO.

[teegre]

That sounds right. Might be some roster churn then?

Berhe has already been re-signed.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Berhe has already been re-signed.
OK, any idea who is headed to IR or released to make room?

[teegre]

OK, any idea who is headed to IR or released to make room?

Alas... I didn’t see that. (just Berhe’s tweet)

[BlackAndGold]

No report of who is headed to IR.

[Dwinsgames]

Good thing Landry Jones is cut since he was the 4th best QB on this roster

I do not understand why Mark Madden lost his mind on the release of Jones.


but a few years back Mark Madden said this ....


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[BlackAndGold]

but a few years back Mark Madden said this ....


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Well Jones was pretty bad his first two years(2013 & 2014). Only started showing signs of a potential #2 in 15'.

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Madden is only worthy of following if you are a Penguins fan.

Knows nothing about the NFL, or football.

[Lady Steel]

The games where Landry Jones filled in for Ben, that didn't involve a virtually meaningless game against the Browns were 2015 in Kansas City and 2016 against New England. The Steelers lost both games. Landry threw a horrid red zone INT in the latter.

His other "win" was against the Browns in 2015. Where he played a series, got hurt, never came back, Ben stepped in and won the game.

Landry Jones' highest moment was coming off the bench against the Cardinals and throwing two TD's to Bryant. That was as good as he was going to get, and he was never that good ever again.

Compare Charlie Batch, who came in and won a big time game in Baltimore in 2012 to keep the Steelers postseason hopes alive (Before they fell apart of course).

I get it, not every guy is going to be a Nick Foles or Jeff Hostetler, but you gotta have a backup who can come in and make plays and make things happen. A guy who can inspire and create hope for the team. Landry wasn't getting it done.

I totally agree with you.

I am soooooo happy Landry Jones is gone! I was sick and tired of our mediocrity at the backup QB position. I'm excited about our future with the QBs we now have.

[polamalubeast]

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2008, Leftwith gave us the victory against the redskins, but the standing would have been the same at the end, even if we would have lost this game.

2010, we started the season with Dennis Dixon .... no experience, we won his 2 games and one in that it was with 21 passing yards net for the entire team against the titans ...

2005 .... please, Maddox cost us 1 game (Jaguars) maybe even 2...

If we go in 2015, the steelers were with the experience with Vick and they were very lucky that it is not a disaster ... Jones with no experience at this time allowed to be 2-2 instead of 1-3 ( with a lucky win against the chargers) with his game against the cards.


I prefer the talent instead of mediocrity even if the talent are rookies.

[86WARD]

So the Steelers just officially announced the signing of Berhe. Adeniyi is heading to IR and will be eligibe to return in Week 6.

[polamalubeast]

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[j-d-s]

Finally we got rid of Landry Jones. YES!!! Best riddance since Antwon Blake!

For the undrafted Linemen... I put that hugely on Munchak. He just makes Linemen so much better.