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hawaiiansteeler
08-09-2018, 10:22 PM
Patterson is Digest Player of the Week

Bob Labriola
STEELERS.COM

PHILADELPHIA – In the Steelers’ 31-14 preseason-opening win over the Eagles here tonight, a bunch of guys made plays that contributed to the victory. But Damoun Patterson was someone who made more than one.

Patterson led the team in receiving with six catches for 77 yards, and included among those was an Antonio Brown-like grab in the end zone for a 29-yard touchdown that gave the Steelers a 22-14 lead at halftime. Patterson also caught two passes for 29 yards in a possession that ended with one of Chris Boswell’s three field goals on the night.

Also considered were:

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https://www.steelers.com/news/patterson-is-digest-player-of-the-week

st33lersguy
08-09-2018, 10:26 PM
He made a statement tonight

Dwinsgames
08-09-2018, 10:43 PM
if he continues to play like he did tonight , he will be tough to cut for sure ... kid has moxie

HollywoodSteel
08-10-2018, 12:22 AM
I think Hunter makes the team. So is DHB out?

hawaiiansteeler
08-10-2018, 01:05 AM
I think Hunter makes the team. So is DHB out?

we can only hope...

HollywoodSteel
08-10-2018, 02:05 AM
we can only hope...

I totally get why you say that, still...

He’s the OPPOSITE of the kind of player everyone is listing on the “hate” thread.

He’s the kind of player that you’d EXPECT TO BE a diva... first round draft pick by the Raiders, who always got by on his amazing speed.

But it turns out he’s the ultimate, UNSELFISH team player; always there to help the new guys... who could potentially replace him.

He’s a veteran who plays special teams, and is REALLY GOOD AT IT.

He works his ass off; blocks; does whatever is asked of him and MORE.

He’s impossible NOT to root for...

But this might be the year that they simply CAN’T justify a roster spot for him.

I obviously want what’s best for the Steelers, and that means rooting for Hunter to finally hit his ceiling (which by all accounts, he’s actually getting closer and closer to) and to root for a kid like Patterson to be TOO GOOD for the practice squad...

If all goes according to plan, I just don’t count enough slots for DHB to get one.

AB
Ju-Ju
Washington
Eli Rogers
Hunter
Patterson

That’s already 6...

I hope if DHB doesn’t make it, we give him a job coaching to keep him around... unless he finds a place on a different squad.

I just like that a potential diva (1st round one trick pony) turned out to be a lunch-pale, team first... well, a real Pittsburgh Steeler.

Butch
08-10-2018, 02:34 AM
I totally get why you say that, still...

He’s the OPPOSITE of the kind of player everyone is listing on the “hate” thread.

He’s the kind of player that you’d EXPECT TO BE a diva... first round draft pick by the Raiders, who always got by on his amazing speed.

But it turns out he’s the ultimate, UNSELFISH team player; always there to help the new guys... who could potentially replace him.

He’s a veteran who plays special teams, and is REALLY GOOD AT IT.

He works his ass off; blocks; does whatever is asked of him and MORE.

He’s impossible NOT to root for...

But this might be the year that they simply CAN’T justify a roster spot for him.

I obviously want what’s best for the Steelers, and that means rooting for Hunter to finally hit his ceiling (which by all accounts, he’s actually getting closer and closer to) and to root for a kid like Patterson to be TOO GOOD for the practice squad...

If all goes according to plan, I just don’t count enough slots for DHB to get one.

AB
Ju-Ju
Washington
Eli Rogers
Hunter
Patterson

That’s already 6...

I hope if DHB doesn’t make it, we give him a job coaching to keep him around... unless he finds a place on a different squad.

I just like that a potential diva (1st round one trick pony) turned out to be a lunch-pale, team first... well, a real Pittsburgh Steeler.

Excellent post!!!

86WARD
08-10-2018, 09:31 AM
Definitely note bright spot in that game last night. Hope to see it continue.

DesertSteel
08-10-2018, 11:07 AM
What is this kid's size?

BlackAndGold
08-10-2018, 11:15 AM
What is this kid's size?

Listed at 6'2" but looks more like 6'0

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-10-2018, 11:26 AM
The first "preseason Hero" has arrived!! Good game, but still not expecting him to make the 53.

DesertSteel
08-10-2018, 01:14 PM
Listed at 6'2" but looks more like 6'0
Watching him I thought he was 5'9" LOL.

That's nice size to go with some quickness.

He could go down in history as the guy who bumped DHB. #legend

86WARD
08-10-2018, 09:19 PM
Watching him I thought he was 5'9" LOL.

That's nice size to go with some quickness.

He could go down in history as the guy who bumped DHB. #legend

He looks like a Bobblehead Doll.

teegre
08-10-2018, 09:34 PM
There isn’t a team that drafts/finds WRs as well as the Steelers do.

Steelerette
08-10-2018, 09:57 PM
I would keep Patterson and DHB over Hunter.

pczach
08-11-2018, 11:02 AM
There isn’t a team that drafts/finds WRs as well as the Steelers do.


And there is no quarterback in history that has been told so many times that he has been given another great receiver by the organization......only to see those wide receivers go elsewhere and underperform or drop out of the NFL.

Tom Brady never gets elite receivers....he makes them good because of his greatness. So say the "experts".

Ben is fortunate to have an organization that drafts and develops wide receivers better than anyone in history, the "experts" say.

Ben gets almost no credit for making all those WRs better.

And people wonder why Ben acts the way he does sometimes...

Dwinsgames
08-11-2018, 02:02 PM
And there is no quarterback in history that has been told so many times that he has been given another great receiver by the organization......only to see those wide receivers go elsewhere and underperform or drop out of the NFL.

Tom Brady never gets elite receivers....he makes them good because of his greatness. So say the "experts".

Ben is fortunate to have an organization that drafts and develops wide receivers better than anyone in history, the "experts" say.

Ben gets almost no credit for making all those WRs better.

And people wonder why Ben acts the way he does sometimes...


only 1 WR has left to find greater success and that is Sanders , but we knew he was good he just had guys ahead of him so he never got to know great success until he left

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-11-2018, 02:30 PM
There isn’t a team that drafts/finds WRs as well as the Steelers do.

Vikings with UDFA Adam Thielen and 5th round pick Stefon Diggs have done rather well I would say.

Seahawks Jermaine Kearse and Doug Baldwin were good finds too.

I think we as Steeler fans think we have the market cornered on good WR finds, just because of Brown. But Smoketonio was a 1st rounder, JuJu a 2nd, Mike Wallace a 3rd, Manny Sanders a 3rd. Bryant a 4th round pick. Its honestly the only position on the field that is more dependent on other positions being good before they can be good(QB, O-Line, RB, playcalling)

Born2Steel
08-11-2018, 03:31 PM
Vikings with UDFA Adam Thielen and 5th round pick Stefon Diggs have done rather well I would say.

Seahawks Jermaine Kearse and Doug Baldwin were good finds too.

I think we as Steeler fans think we have the market cornered on good WR finds, just because of Brown. But Smoketonio was a 1st rounder, JuJu a 2nd, Mike Wallace a 3rd, Manny Sanders a 3rd. Bryant a 4th round pick. Its honestly the only position on the field that is more dependent on other positions being good before they can be good(QB, O-Line, RB, playcalling)

You seem to want to go all in on the most simple, non combative statements at times. I know there are teams that have a fine history of drafting WRs and that the steelers don't have that 'market cornered'. (LOVE that, cornering the WR market, btw). I also think most everyone on this forum knows that as well. I read that post as an exaggeration but also as a historic observation. Some of the best WRs to play this game were Steelers historically. For me it started with Swann and Stallworth. Think about it as a single position grade. Over the decades to today you would have to give the Steelers an A at the WR spot.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/24/breaking-down-the-10-best-wide-receivers-in-steelers-history/

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-11-2018, 05:01 PM
You seem to want to go all in on the most simple, non combative statements at times. I know there are teams that have a fine history of drafting WRs and that the steelers don't have that 'market cornered'. (LOVE that, cornering the WR market, btw). I also think most everyone on this forum knows that as well. I read that post as an exaggeration but also as a historic observation. Some of the best WRs to play this game were Steelers historically. For me it started with Swann and Stallworth. Think about it as a single position grade. Over the decades to today you would have to give the Steelers an A at the WR spot.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/24/breaking-down-the-10-best-wide-receivers-in-steelers-history/

I don't know what you mean by "seem to want to go all in on the most simple, non-combative statements". Or I don't know what you are trying to demonstrate, or characterize me as, but have at it.

Teegre seemed to make a statement that he thinks the Steelers are the best at finding/drafting WR's. I would say that if you compared the Steelers top 3 WR's and their draft positions, to several other teams and their top 3, there are others that have found productive WR's from as obscure or more obscure draft/FA positions.

I think a lot of Steeler fans seem to think that because they found AB with a late pick that there is some greatness, but other teams have also found starting WR's with lower picks than 6th round. The last real UDFA I can think of the Steelers had that was a solid WR was Nate Washington, but maybe I am forgetting some guys.

hawaiiansteeler
08-11-2018, 05:40 PM
we have had our share of misses also: Limas Sweed, Sammie Coates, Dri Archer, Markus Wheaton, DeMarcus Ayers, Justin Brown, Toney Clemons, Dallas Baker, Willie Reid and Fred Gibson for examples...

Born2Steel
08-11-2018, 06:03 PM
I don't know what you mean by "seem to want to go all in on the most simple, non-combative statements". Or I don't know what you are trying to demonstrate, or characterize me as, but have at it.

Teegre seemed to make a statement that he thinks the Steelers are the best at finding/drafting WR's. I would say that if you compared the Steelers top 3 WR's and their draft positions, to several other teams and their top 3, there are others that have found productive WR's from as obscure or more obscure draft/FA positions.

I think a lot of Steeler fans seem to think that because they found AB with a late pick that there is some greatness, but other teams have also found starting WR's with lower picks than 6th round. The last real UDFA I can think of the Steelers had that was a solid WR was Nate Washington, but maybe I am forgetting some guys.

Right. But I was saying if you look at the NFL in the superbowl era from beginning to now, it's hard to find a team that has had more success at the WR position. i understand there is some debate. But it's not like it's just a far fetched statement either. Steelers fan or not I think most NFL fans would understand the point.

GBMelBlount
08-11-2018, 06:27 PM
I believe there were very good reports on Patterson at training camp.

So hopefully this was further validation of his ability as opposed to a random good game by an otherwise mediocre player.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-11-2018, 06:31 PM
Right. But I was saying if you look at the NFL in the superbowl era from beginning to now, it's hard to find a team that has had more success at the WR position. i understand there is some debate. But it's not like it's just a far fetched statement either. Steelers fan or not I think most NFL fans would understand the point.

So now we are trying to make a subjective point about what NFL team has had the best WR's over the last 50 years? That is taking the thread right off the rails IMO. Can look up modern era HOF WR for some proof and you find any Steelers not named Swann or Stallworth?? One could argue the Raiders, Chargers, Cowboys, Packers always found very good WR's too.

Do I think the Steelers are one of the best, OK lets say top 10, but as Hawaiiansteeler points out, we have had a lot of misses....and he doesn't even have a couple 1st rounders like Troy Edwards or Charles Johnson on that list

Damoun Patterson is the latest preseason warrior that likely will not be on the 53. But if he continues like this, he could be the next Nate Washington IMO.

teegre
08-11-2018, 08:42 PM
And there is no quarterback in history that has been told so many times that he has been given another great receiver by the organization......only to see those wide receivers go elsewhere and underperform or drop out of the NFL.

Tom Brady never gets elite receivers....he makes them good because of his greatness. So say the "experts".

Ben is fortunate to have an organization that drafts and develops wide receivers better than anyone in history, the "experts" say.

Ben gets almost no credit for making all those WRs better.

And people wonder why Ben acts the way he does sometimes...

There’s some of that binary reasoning that mojoUW has been talking about.

IMO, it’s okay to compliment the receivers. It doesn’t mean that I think that “Ben sux!!!”

teegre
08-11-2018, 08:50 PM
Vikings with UDFA Adam Thielen and 5th round pick Stefon Diggs have done rather well I would say.

Seahawks Jermaine Kearse and Doug Baldwin were good finds too.

I think we as Steeler fans think we have the market cornered on good WR finds, just because of Brown. But Smoketonio was a 1st rounder, JuJu a 2nd, Mike Wallace a 3rd, Manny Sanders a 3rd. Bryant a 4th round pick. Its honestly the only position on the field that is more dependent on other positions being good before they can be good(QB, O-Line, RB, playcalling)

Uh... I’m not sure what you’re even talking about/what you read in my post.

Really. :huh:

Holmes, Wallace, Sanders, Bryant, JuJu, Washington... that’s pretty good drafting, IMO. I’m not sure why you think that “only” late round/URFAs count as good picks.

But, back to Patterson. For a guy battling for the 5th roster spot, he looked pretty good. #thatdoesNOTmeanthatBENSUX

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-11-2018, 09:00 PM
Uh... I’m not sure what you’re even talking about/what you read in my post.

Really. :huh:

Holmes, Wallace, Sanders, Bryant, JuJu, Washington... that’s pretty good drafting, IMO. I’m not sure why you think that “only” late round/URFAs count as good picks.

But, back to Patterson. For a guy battling for the 5th roster spot, he looked pretty good. #thatdoesNOTmeanthatBENSUX

You said there isn't a team that drafts/finds WR as well as the Steelers do. I posted some examples of teams finding/drafting good WR in later rounds, which may find/draft WR better than the Steelers do. I think a lot of teams do a good job of finding WR and as earlier posted, the Steelers have missed on their fair share of WR, as do many more. IMO, Steelers aren't unique in finding good or missing on some hi draft pick WR's.

As for Patterson, yes I agree that his TD catch and a few other like his sideline grab from Rudolf showed he has the hands to make it. I thought he let one get away from him and his route/effort could have been better as Rudolf threw him a skinny post he didn't cut well out of break for it.

Hawkman
08-11-2018, 09:09 PM
Uh... I’m not sure what you’re even talking about/what you read in my post.

Really. :huh:

Holmes, Wallace, Sanders, Bryant, JuJu, Washington... that’s pretty good drafting, IMO. I’m not sure why you think that “only” late round/URFAs count as good picks.

But, back to Patterson. For a guy battling for the 5th roster spot, he looked pretty good. #thatdoesNOTmeanthatBENSUX

Don’t forget Ward.:wink02:

teegre
08-11-2018, 09:39 PM
You said there isn't a team that drafts/finds WR as well as the Steelers do. I posted some examples of teams finding/drafting good WR in later rounds, which may find/draft WR better than the Steelers do. I think a lot of teams do a good job of finding WR and as earlier posted, the Steelers have missed on their fair share of WR, as do many more. IMO, Steelers aren't unique in finding good or missing on some hi draft pick WR's.

For shits & giggles, lets delve deeper. I shall stick with the three teams listed earlier: Seahawks, Vikings, & Steelers.

STEELERS:
Good: AB, JuJu, Wallace, Bryant, Sanders, Santonio
Busts: Ayers, Coates, Archer, Wheaton, Brown, Clemons, Sweed, Baker
Who knows: Washington, Patterson, Rogers

VIKINGS:
Good: Diggs, Thielen, Patterson (maybe), Harvin
Busts: Treadwell, Adams, Boehringer, Wright, Childs, Burton, Johnson, Rice, Allison, Williams
Who knows: Coley

SEAHAWKS:
Good: Lockett, Kearse, Baldwin, Tate
Busts: Lawler, Richardson, Norwood, Harper, Durham, Butler, Taylor, Kent
Who knows: Darboh

SUMMATION:
IMO, I’m taking the Steelers’ WR picks twenty times out of twenty.

pczach
08-11-2018, 11:27 PM
There’s some of that binary reasoning that mojoUW has been talking about.

IMO, it’s okay to compliment the receivers. It doesn’t mean that I think that “Ben sux!!!”



Teeg, I wasn't saying that you thought that Ben sucks. I used your post to point out something that always bothers me when people talk about how great the Steelers are at picking WRs. I know you believe Ben is a very good quarterback. Sorry if you took it that way.

It's just that we hear that drumbeat from every "expert", then add that to idiots like David Carr making statements about Ben's weapons "carrying him", and there is this picture of Ben out there that is just so stupid it is beyond reason. Brady plays with the greatest TE ever, but the picture painted is that he never has any quality weapons around him. That's all I was saying.

Born2Steel
08-12-2018, 01:04 AM
So now we are trying to make a subjective point about what NFL team has had the best WR's over the last 50 years? That is taking the thread right off the rails IMO. Can look up modern era HOF WR for some proof and you find any Steelers not named Swann or Stallworth?? One could argue the Raiders, Chargers, Cowboys, Packers always found very good WR's too.

Do I think the Steelers are one of the best, OK lets say top 10, but as Hawaiiansteeler points out, we have had a lot of misses....and he doesn't even have a couple 1st rounders like Troy Edwards or Charles Johnson on that list

Damoun Patterson is the latest preseason warrior that likely will not be on the 53. But if he continues like this, he could be the next Nate Washington IMO.

So now the WR has to be in the HoF????? See how that works? You are taking a simple statement, a non combative statement, and trying to say that the statement is not only false, but just a plain homer mis statement. That is what "going all in " means. Swann and Stallworth were just the beginning. Just check the link I previously posted. From The Swann/Stallworth era to the present AB era, there have been stellar WRs drafted by the Steelers in every era. You want to poo the accomplishments of Charles Johnson? Maybe it is you that needs to understand subjective. You are the one that goes on the attack when no attack is called for. Not a team player.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-12-2018, 10:36 AM
So now the WR has to be in the HoF????? See how that works? You are taking a simple statement, a non combative statement, and trying to say that the statement is not only false, but just a plain homer mis statement. That is what "going all in " means. Swann and Stallworth were just the beginning. Just check the link I previously posted. From The Swann/Stallworth era to the present AB era, there have been stellar WRs drafted by the Steelers in every era. You want to poo the accomplishments of Charles Johnson? Maybe it is you that needs to understand subjective. You are the one that goes on the attack when no attack is called for. Not a team player.

I was talking about recent players drafted or selected as UDFA, then you start talking the Super Bowl Era, (which is approx. the past 50 years) and I am going "all in"?

I'm saying I don't want to take this thread any further off the track than its already going, but for some reason you want to characterize me as combative and start taking the tangent out further. If that is your prerogative, feel free to do so as it really doesn't matter to me. I'm not taking the bait as I have no ill will or intentions towards you or anybody on this board that I can think of.

My position is that a UDFA in Patterson possibly making the team and that I think lots of NFL teams of late have found successful UDFA or later round picks to be productive WR's. I don't think the Steelers are significantly unique in that regard. I'm actually surprised that nobody has mentioned New England, as they always seem to find guys like Amendola, Chris Hogan, Brandon Lafell, Wes Welker, etc that become productive WR, seemingly above their expectations.

pczach
08-12-2018, 11:05 AM
I was talking about recent players drafted or selected as UDFA, then you start talking the Super Bowl Era, (which is approx. the past 50 years) and I am going "all in"?

I'm saying I don't want to take this thread any further off the track than its already going, but for some reason you want to characterize me as combative and start taking the tangent out further. If that is your prerogative, feel free to do so as it really doesn't matter to me. I'm not taking the bait as I have no ill will or intentions towards you or anybody on this board that I can think of.

My position is that a UDFA in Patterson possibly making the team and that I think lots of NFL teams of late have found successful UDFA or later round picks to be productive WR's. I don't think the Steelers are significantly unique in that regard. I'm actually surprised that nobody has mentioned New England, as they always seem to find guys like Amendola, Chris Hogan, Brandon Lafell, Wes Welker, etc that become productive WR, seemingly above their expectations.



I'm that one that started the derailing of this thread with my rant about Ben getting shafted by the media constantly and the Steelers' ability to draft wide receivers.

Sorry about that everyone. That wasn't my intent.

Patterson impressed me with his ball skills. He made some nice plays and the catch in the end zone was crazy good.

I still have concerns about him because we didn't see him playing against press coverage and quality corners. Can he run good enough routes and show the necessary hand skills to get off the line and create separation? I still don't know. Most of the catches he made were against zone or off coverages from what I could see. He only had to read the defense properly and run the correct route(which is very impressive for a rookie at this stage of his career). I hope the kid keeps progressing and shows he can defeat quality press coverage and earn a spot on the roster. Time will tell.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-12-2018, 11:20 AM
I'm that one that started the derailing of this thread with my rant about Ben getting shafted by the media constantly and the Steelers' ability to draft wide receivers.

Sorry about that everyone. That wasn't my intent.

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No problem at all. I believe that good QB's make WR's better. You can look at the list of guys that had Manning, Brady, Ben, Brees, Favre as QB's and they had better stats than with other teams. I agree that Patterson showed very good hands and footwork......that along with a desire to tackle on special teams will give him a shot at the roster, but 1 preseason game isn't getting me that hyped.

hawaiiansteeler
08-12-2018, 02:55 PM
I'm that one that started the derailing of this thread with my rant about Ben getting shafted by the media constantly and the Steelers' ability to draft wide receivers.

:ban::rofl2:

pczach
08-12-2018, 03:52 PM
:ban::rofl2:



I'll fall on my sword for the greater good!

:sofunny:

Born2Steel
08-12-2018, 04:53 PM
And there is no quarterback in history that has been told so many times that he has been given another great receiver by the organization......only to see those wide receivers go elsewhere and underperform or drop out of the NFL.

Tom Brady never gets elite receivers....he makes them good because of his greatness. So say the "experts".

Ben is fortunate to have an organization that drafts and develops wide receivers better than anyone in history, the "experts" say.

Ben gets almost no credit for making all those WRs better.

And people wonder why Ben acts the way he does sometimes...


Having a QB like Ben does make it easier for good WRs to become great WRs. But he cannot make bad WRs into good WRs. As we saw in the AFCCG 2 years ago, Ben can put the ball exactly where it needs to be and if the WR is not up to the task, it doesn't really matter. Drew Brees is another great example of this. He has good WRs every season that he can make look like all stars. But when those guys leave, they are still good WRs just not up to the level they were with Brees. Moss had a great career but maybe his best season was with Brady.(???) Just goes to show Ben should get more credit for his play than he does nationally.

teegre
08-12-2018, 07:40 PM
Teeg, I wasn't saying that you thought that Ben sucks. I used your post to point out something that always bothers me when people talk about how great the Steelers are at picking WRs. I know you believe Ben is a very good quarterback. Sorry if you took it that way.

It's just that we hear that drumbeat from every "expert", then add that to idiots like David Carr making statements about Ben's weapons "carrying him", and there is this picture of Ben out there that is just so stupid it is beyond reason. Brady plays with the greatest TE ever, but the picture painted is that he never has any quality weapons around him. That's all I was saying.

:drink:

hawaiiansteeler
08-16-2018, 03:21 AM
Damoun Patterson: Man on a mission

By JIM WEXELL Aug 14

LATROBE - It came begrudgingly but Mike Tomlin did admit that wide receiver Damoun Patterson "made some plays" in the Steelers' preseason opener.

Just don't tell Tomlin that Patterson has had a good camp.

"YOU said good camp," Tomlin repeated in correcting his post-game questioner.

It inferred that Tomlin did not say that, would not say that, WILL not say that.

After all, Patterson is a rookie.

But if there's one rookie who won't get a big head, it's Patterson. He's gone through way too much to ever worry about coachly semantics. Just consider his odyssey:

to read rest of article:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Pittsburgh-Steelers-Damoun-Patterson-Man-on-a-mission-120660764/