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[stillers4me]

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[Hawkman]

Nice! Thanks!

[DesertSteel]

Thank you S4M!

[stillers4me]

Thank you S4M!


URW. :heh:

[stillers4me]

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[Hawkman]

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He TRULY gets it doesn’t he.

[stillers4me]

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[Fire Goodell]

AB is the man. Is it too early to say he's the best Steelers WR of all time? Better than Stallworth or Swann? Honestly in my years of watching the Steelers (only goes back to 1990 though), I haven't seen any better than him.

[Shoes]

AB is the man. Is it too early to say he's the best Steelers WR of all time? Better than Stallworth or Swann? Honestly in my years of watching the Steelers (only goes back to 1990 though), I haven't seen any better than him.


Nope, he is.

[Lady Steel]

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Yeah, it definitely sounds like Ben hates the kid. :chuckle:



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:lol:

Some people just don't "get" Ben. *sigh*




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SCOOOOORE! :tt03:

[hawaiiansteeler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbbqvsipFxw

[Dwinsgames]

AB is the man. Is it too early to say he's the best Steelers WR of all time? Better than Stallworth or Swann? Honestly in my years of watching the Steelers (only goes back to 1990 though), I haven't seen any better than him.


such a different era and such a different breed of WR .....

I wouldnt turn any of them down .... that said I am not so sure AB would have survived that era and I think those guys would have feasted in this era ...

the game has just changed so much ...

Physicality was off the charts back then with no flags thrown for knocking a wr out ..could AB handle that ? IDK

but on the flip side a guy like Swann would EAT todays DBs alive even more than he did when he played ...

so as to whom is / was better ,, that is a question for a computer to answer because I do not think we can ( and even the PC answer would be highly debatable IMO )

[DesertSteel]

AB is the best Steelers WR ever and likely to be thought of as the 2nd best to ever play the game when he hangs em up.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

AB is the best Steelers WR ever and likely to be thought of as the 2nd best to ever play the game when he hangs em up.

I honestly thought Stallworth was a better WR than Swann as a complete WR. I think Stallworth had better games/seasons with some mediocre QB's than he did with TB. I was of the opinion that Stallworth was a better WR than AB....but if I ask myself the question of Was Stallworth considered one of the top 3WR's in the NFL during his tenure? I would have to say no.

AB is arguably the best or one of if you put Julio Jones and Odell Beckham in the conversation. You could look a few years ago before OBJ came into the NFL and AB is still in the conversation. I don't think we can say that about Swann, Stallworth, Ward. So for that reason AB is the best Steeler WR to ever play and I agree with you.

[86WARD]

Stallworth would be a beast in today’s game. Out of all the 70s players, he’s the one I would put my money on to be able to pull out of the 70s and place into today’s game.

As for OBJ, I wouldn’t put him into the Top-5 current receivers. He made a great catch (that’s made on a weekly/bi-weekly basis) and has been living off of it. He drops way too many easy balls. Once in a while is fine, but this guy misses on a lot. Only one to even put up there with AB, right now, is Julio.

[86WARD]

Hines Ward could play then and now as well. He’s not the greatest WR ever (my favorite though), probably one of the slowest, but he was a great player. Awesome blocker, great attitude and work ethic, decent receiver, slow as molasses...lol

[teegre]

Here’s the thing about AB playing in the 70’s...

Everyone brings up how he couldn’t stand being hit. True. But... they’d have to catch him first. Seriously, it’d be like watching Barry Sanders running around people as if they’re standing still.

[tube517]

AB reminds me of John Jefferson, Wes Chandler, Harold Jackson.

Would he have survived? Don't know but that era had some great playmakers in a run dominant league.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

AB reminds me of John Jefferson, Wes Chandler, Harold Jackson.

Would he have survived? Don't know but that era had some great playmakers in a run dominant league.

If Charlie Joyner survived and thrived at 188 lbs in that era, I see no reason why AB would not have torn it up back then.

Wes Chandler wasn't ever a top 10 WR in the NFL. At times he was the #4 option in San Diego. smh

[Mojouw]

Here’s the thing about AB playing in the 70’s...

Everyone brings up how he couldn’t stand being hit. True. But... they’d have to catch him first. Seriously, it’d be like watching Barry Sanders running around people as if they’re standing still.

And the reverse is true as well. Everyone says that with the lax rules on WR contact in the modern era, old school guys would run rampant. I don't know about that. The speed, quick-twitchiness, and technical precision of high-end DBs today looks to be far higher than it was across the football landscape back in the day.

Sure, some guys can and would transcend eras. But I think some would struggle - in either direction.

Also, where does the "AB doesn't like getting hit" narrative come from? I mean he gets roughed up more than almost any other WR I watch. He fights through it all. I mean he isn't out hunting for blocks like Ward did, but AB isn't exactly a shrinking violet.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

And the reverse is true as well. Everyone says that with the lax rules on WR contact in the modern era, old school guys would run rampant. I don't know about that. The speed, quick-twitchiness, and technical precision of high-end DBs today looks to be far higher than it was across the football landscape back in the day.

Sure, some guys can and would transcend eras. But I think some would struggle - in either direction.

Also, where does the "AB doesn't like getting hit" narrative come from? I mean he gets roughed up more than almost any other WR I watch. He fights through it all. I mean he isn't out hunting for blocks like Ward did, but AB isn't exactly a shrinking violet.

EXACTLY....people act like Cliff Branch wasn't productive in that era. Branch was 5'11" 170Lbs and lasted 14 seasons. AB and modern peers would be great in that era. AB is probably putting more work in at the gym than any of the WR's of that era, as it wasn't part of the NFL culture like today.

[Cyphon25]

Also, where does the "AB doesn't like getting hit" narrative come from? I mean he gets roughed up more than almost any other WR I watch. He fights through it all. I mean he isn't out hunting for blocks like Ward did, but AB isn't exactly a shrinking violet.

It mostly comes from the blocking. Dude is a bad blocker and honestly doesn't seem to much effort into it, not that he really needs to lol.

The dude definitely has made some combative catches and even recently held onto the one during the George Iloko hit.

[AtlantaDan]

So much for any hope the drama might be dialed back this season :coffee:

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More in the P-G story posted this afternoon

Brown seemed to infer that players who don’t speak their mind end up facing mental health issues in retirement.

“I don’t resent anything,” Brown said. “People write stories about me and wonder why he didn’t play his rookie year. As a player you have to start expressing things to get it out of your head. I think the more you bottle stuff up and don’t express yourself, that’s where these players have problems. But we don’t talk about the players who don’t play anymore, the guys who can’t remember anything because their whole careers they were taught to hold stuff in. We can’t really express ourselves at this level.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2018/06/12/Antonio-Brown-I-started-to-think-to-myself-Am-I-really-free-I-can-t-really-express-myself-in-this-game/stories/201806120094

I thought cognitive impairment problems experienced by Mike Webster and other retired players were related to repeated blows to the head - who knew it was because they had to "hold stuff in"?:noidea:

If only Iron Mike had participated in more choreographed end zone celebrations

[stillers4me]

Thread closed . On to minicamp!