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hawaiiansteeler
04-09-2018, 01:06 AM
If QB Mason Rudolph is still on the board at # 28 should the Steelers draft him?

SteelerFanInStl
04-09-2018, 08:01 AM
If the Steelers draft a QB in the first round, I'm going to just turn the draft off. This team needs defensive help to win the SB now. HB is more of a priority than QB IMO because Bell will most likely be gone after this year. Ben has said that he wants to play for 3 more years. When he's done, our chance at a SB is done anyway so I don't really care about drafting his possible replacement now.

st33lersguy
04-09-2018, 09:10 AM
No.

P.S.: You forgot the Patriots suck and Tom Brady is Gay option (lol)

Moose
04-09-2018, 09:14 AM
NO. Our Defense needs big overhaul. Still waiting for J Porter and a few other coaches to hit the pavement, but I'm pretty sure that won't happen now.....dammit !

steelreserve
04-09-2018, 09:46 AM
I don't know enough about the guy to say for sure, but a lot of people seem to think he's overrated. In that case, no.

On the other hand, our coaches seem to have taken a big interest in him for some reason. If they really, truly see something that makes them think he's our next franchise QB, then I'd make that pick without hesitation at #28.

Mojouw
04-09-2018, 10:01 AM
The more I think about it and the more I look into Rudolph, the more I understand why teams are entranced by him. He has maybe the best arm in the draft. But his ability to deal with pressure and broken plays is an open question...

SteelMember
04-09-2018, 10:15 AM
I'll pass...

Dwinsgames
04-09-2018, 10:32 AM
wonder what the results would be if 60 was the question ...

rumors of him going rd1 but still many who believe he will be there at 60 ....

its anyones guess at this point but personally I do not see him going rd1 , that said I do not think he makes it passed the 50 spot either

the QB pos is just to over valued and there almost seems to be a willingness to fail by throwing logic out the window and get another body in the room that has a chance

hawaiiansteeler
04-09-2018, 05:03 PM
No.

P.S.: You forgot the Patriots suck and Tom Brady is Gay option (lol)

good point, what was I thinking? :lol:

pczach
04-09-2018, 05:36 PM
I voted a big fat NO.

I almost couldn't resist the Fire Tomlin option.

Powerful the Dark Side is!

https://media.giphy.com/media/fItgT774J3nWw/giphy.gif

hawaiiansteeler
04-09-2018, 06:03 PM
wonder what the results would be if 60 was the question ...

rumors of him going rd1 but still many who believe he will be there at 60 ....

its anyones guess at this point but personally I do not see him going rd1 , that said I do not think he makes it passed the 50 spot either

the QB pos is just to over valued and there almost seems to be a willingness to fail by throwing logic out the window and get another body in the room that has a chance

that's exactly why I'm convinced Rudolph doesn't make it out of Round 1, too many NFL teams are starved for QBs...

teegre
04-09-2018, 06:28 PM
that's exactly why I'm convinced Rudolph doesn't make it out of Round 1, too many NFL teams are starved for QBs...

:nod: 100%

DesertSteel
04-09-2018, 06:40 PM
Does anyone actually think he won't be there??

hawaiiansteeler
04-09-2018, 07:24 PM
Does anyone actually think he won't be there??

I'm hoping he still is and some QB needy team offers the Steelers a 3rd or 4th round pick (since we don't have one) to move up and draft Rudolph.

teegre
04-09-2018, 08:19 PM
Does anyone actually think he won't be there??

Yes

IMO, it’s more likely that he gets drafted before 28 (than after 28).

Shoes
04-09-2018, 08:51 PM
I think this entire draft is going to be a circus.

86WARD
04-09-2018, 09:02 PM
No. He’s not a 28th overall pick talent at this juncture. He’s a early to mid 40s talent.

teegre
04-09-2018, 09:25 PM
The more I think about it and the more I look into Rudolph, the more I understand why teams are entranced by him. He has maybe the best arm in the draft. But his ability to deal with pressure and broken plays is an open question...

My biggest concern with Rudolph is that he floats the ball. NFL safeties are gonna intercept him regularly.

Mojouw
04-09-2018, 10:30 PM
My biggest concern with Rudolph is that he floats the ball. NFL safeties are gonna intercept him regularly.

Agreed. A lot of what he gets away with on Saturdays that leads to positive outcomes is just gonna get him killed in the NFL.

But goodness me, the kid can throw the damn ball when he puts his mind to it.

pczach
04-10-2018, 05:47 AM
I'm hoping he still is and some QB needy team offers the Steelers a 3rd or 4th round pick (since we don't have one) to move up and draft Rudolph.



This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It would be great to get an additional draft pick. There are plenty of quality players that could help this team address a position need in the middle of this draft.

DesertSteel
04-11-2018, 05:33 PM
Yes

IMO, it’s more likely that he gets drafted before 28 (than after 28).
He must be impressing some teams. How many 1st round QB teams are there this year? I really haven't had time to look close.

teegre
04-11-2018, 06:47 PM
He must be impressing some teams. How many 1st round QB teams are there this year? I really haven't had time to look close.

Browns
Giants
Jets
Broncos
Dolphins
Bills
Cardinals
Ravens
Chargers
Taperiots
Saints
Steelers
Jaguars

DesertSteel
04-12-2018, 09:27 AM
Browns
Giants
Jets
Broncos
Dolphins
Bills
Cardinals
Ravens
Chargers
Taperiots
Saints
Steelers
Jaguars
I can't see the teams I placed in bold going 1st round on a QB. Possible, but not plausible. The QBs who are going at the top are already over-valued with lots of bust potential. A smart GM is not going to let that crazy valuation drive up the price for a 3rd round QB by taking him in the mid-late 1st. JMO

teegre
04-12-2018, 02:03 PM
I can't see the teams I placed in bold going 1st round on a QB. Possible, but not plausible. The QBs who are going at the top are already over-valued with lots of bust potential. A smart GM is not going to let that crazy valuation drive up the price for a 3rd round QB by taking him in the mid-late 1st. JMO

Even if we exclude the bolded teams (although, the Ravens have met with every QB prospect)... that would still leave EIGHT teams who could draft a QB in R1.

Logically, it makes nosense to draft a R3 guy in R1. Except, if the R3 guys are not there in R3 (because the R3 guys got drafted in R1), then you’re left with... nothing.

86WARD
04-12-2018, 03:59 PM
And unless they are 100% in love with a guy, which means a successor to Ben, the Steelers shouldn’t be wasting a pick on a guy unless it’s a Round One Guy, there’s really no need to take a QB with what they have on the roster. The next guy should be a prospective starter...not a Josh Dobbs, Landry Jones type of guy. They have a couple of those already.

hawaiiansteeler
04-12-2018, 05:28 PM
And unless they are 100% in love with a guy, which means a successor to Ben, the Steelers shouldn’t be wasting a pick on a guy unless it’s a Round One Guy, there’s really no need to take a QB with what they have on the roster. The next guy should be a prospective starter...not a Josh Dobbs, Landry Jones type of guy. They have a couple of those already.

Report: Steelers Continue To Show Interest In QB Mason Rudolph

By Dave BryanPosted on April 6, 2018

How many quarterbacks will be selected in the first-round of the 2018 NFL Draft and will Oklahoma State’s Mason Rudolph be one of them? We have a little less than three weeks remaining before we know the answers to those questions but in the meantime, however, Rudolph appears to be a prospect in high demand as the pre-draft process winds down.

On Friday, Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network passed along some news about Rudolph and he reports that the quarterback will visit with the Buffalo Bills this weekend and that he’s also already met with, or had workouts with, the Los Angeles Chargers, New Orleans Saints, New York Giants, New England Patriots, Cincinnati Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Rapoport adds that the Patriots, who now own two selections in the first-round of this year’s draft as of this past week, recently had a private workout with Rudolph and wide receiver James Washington, who also played at Oklahoma State.

to read rest of article:

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/04/report-steelers-continue-to-show-interest-in-qb-mason-rudolph/

86WARD
04-12-2018, 05:50 PM
Report: Steelers Continue To Show Interest In QB Mason Rudolph

By Dave BryanPosted on April 6, 2018

How many quarterbacks will be selected in the first-round of the 2018 NFL Draft and will Oklahoma State’s Mason Rudolph be one of them? We have a little less than three weeks remaining before we know the answers to those questions but in the meantime, however, Rudolph appears to be a prospect in high demand as the pre-draft process winds down.

On Friday, Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network passed along some news about Rudolph and he reports that the quarterback will visit with the Buffalo Bills this weekend and that he’s also already met with, or had workouts with, the Los Angeles Chargers, New Orleans Saints, New York Giants, New England Patriots, Cincinnati Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Rapoport adds that the Patriots, who now own two selections in the first-round of this year’s draft as of this past week, recently had a private workout with Rudolph and wide receiver James Washington, who also played at Oklahoma State.

to read rest of article:

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/04/report-steelers-continue-to-show-interest-in-qb-mason-rudolph/

Ugh...if they do it...it gives me the same heebie jeebies I felt when they drafted Mendenhall...

lipps83
04-12-2018, 06:19 PM
I think/hope its a smoke screen. If Ben really is willing to play another 3 years, they are probably not going to grab a guy in the 1st round to sit on the bench for those three years.

Born2Steel
04-12-2018, 06:29 PM
The ONLY way this is even in play is the chance of winning the SuperBowl this year. Ben may retire on top if that happens. Also he may have only said he wanted to play 2-3 more years just to have a question free off season. Either way I do not want Mason Rudolph.

hawaiiansteeler
04-12-2018, 06:54 PM
Your 1st Round QB is likely to be a bust

By Joe Marino
Published on April 7, 2018

No less than four and as many as six quarterbacks will be selected in the first round of the 2018 NFL Draft. For those teams that ultimately select a quarterback in the first round, optimism will reign as the hopeful search for the long-term answer at the most important position in sports has been secured.

The fact of the matter is that it’s more likely that your shiny new quarterback is going to be a bust.

From 2000-2015, 42 quarterbacks have been first round selections. While the degree of success is varying, 19 of those do not currently carry a bust label but 23 of them do. 55 percent of all quarterbacks drafted in the first round from 2000-2015 have been busts.

to read rest of article:

https://www.ndtscouting.com/marino-your-1st-round-qb-is-likely-to-be-a-bust/

teegre
04-12-2018, 07:22 PM
The ONLY way this is even in play is the chance of winning the SuperBowl this year. Ben may retire on top if that happens. Also he may have only said he wanted to play 2-3 more years just to have a question free off season. Either way I do not want Mason Rudolph.

Bingo!!! It gets the reporters off of his back. If the Steelers win a Lombardi, I expect Ben to retire.

And, I concur: Rudolph just doesn’t seem like “the guy” to me.

Born2Steel
04-12-2018, 09:22 PM
Bingo!!! It gets the reporters off of his back. If the Steelers win a Lombardi, I expect Ben to retire.

And, I concur: Rudolph just doesn’t seem like “the guy” to me.

My ONLY complaint with Dobbs is his short to midrange accuracy is very lacking. He throws the ball high which either gets a WR killed or winds up being an INT. Both are bad for my team, otherwise great guy. To me, Rudolph is the same QB. Great deep ball accuracy, maybe one of the best in the draft. Also mid range floater and terrible accuracy short range. Of the 2, Dobbs has much better mobility, although Rudolph has a more NFL body type. I see basically the same QB in both players.

DesertSteel
04-13-2018, 12:04 AM
Even if we exclude the bolded teams (although, the Ravens have met with every QB prospect)... that would still leave EIGHT teams who could draft a QB in R1.

Logically, it makes nosense to draft a R3 guy in R1. Except, if the R3 guys are not there in R3 (because the R3 guys got drafted in R1), then you’re left with... nothing.
And thus the losing teams keep losing...

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Ugh...if they do it...it gives me the same heebie jeebies I felt when they drafted Mendenhall...
I believe they're doing due diligence in the event he falls to R2.

86WARD
04-13-2018, 09:59 AM
I’d be fine with him in round 2...IF...they think and convinced 100% that he’s the successor to Ben. Otherwise it’s just wasting picks.

hawaiiansteeler
04-14-2018, 01:29 PM
NFL Draft Buzz: QBs Mayfield, Rudolph rising; Jackson slipping

April 13, 2018
— By Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com —

"Rudolph increasingly is being tied to the New England Patriots, who may see the former Cowboys star as the perfect protege to Tom Brady. The Patriots have picks Nos. 23 and 31 after trading wide receiver Brandin Cooks to the Los Angeles Rams."

http://nfldraftscout.com/nfl-draft-buzz-qbs-mayfield-rudolph-rising-jackson-slipping/

Neversatisfied
04-14-2018, 09:29 PM
NO. Our Defense needs big overhaul. Still waiting for J Porter and a few other coaches to hit the pavement, but I'm pretty sure that won't happen now.....dammit !

Lol, this defense has been overhauled. There is not 1 defensive player on this team from 2010! Every piece is new and still this team can't win a playoff game without the assistance of a penalty.

fansince'76
04-14-2018, 10:13 PM
I don't know enough about the guy to say for sure, but a lot of people seem to think he's overrated. In that case, no.

On the other hand, our coaches seem to have taken a big interest in him for some reason. If they really, truly see something that makes them think he's our next franchise QB, then I'd make that pick without hesitation at #28.

As the defending SB champs in a 28-team league, they picked Mark Malone at #28 in '80. Just saying...

Steeldude
04-15-2018, 04:33 AM
wonder what the results would be if 60 was the question ...

rumors of him going rd1 but still many who believe he will be there at 60 ....

its anyones guess at this point but personally I do not see him going rd1 , that said I do not think he makes it passed the 50 spot either

the QB pos is just to over valued and there almost seems to be a willingness to fail by throwing logic out the window and get another body in the room that has a chance

I wouldn't draft him in the first 3 rounds.

hawaiiansteeler
04-15-2018, 01:57 PM
The Jaguars could take Mason Rudolph. - Benjamin Albright, 104.7 FM Denver

This is something Albright has said repeatedly on Twitter. Rudolph should be chosen on Day 2, but it wouldn't be the biggest surprise if a quarterback-hungry team like the Jaguars took him at the end of the opening round. -Walter

http://walterfootball.com/nflrumors