I have little faith for next season

[Remahlehs]

I know it's way too early to develop opinions on next season, but this is the first time in a while that I've gone into an offseason believing that the Steelers don't have a chance to win the Super Bowl next season.

Perhaps having our defense annihilated by Blake Bortles is still too fresh in my mind, but I don't see things getting better next year. We're keeping our entire defensive staff (which blows my mind), money will be tight in Free Agency (especially if we re-sign Bell), and looking at lists of free agents, I'm not sure there is even a lot to load up with.

Unless a few of the following things happen, I don't know that I can really get excited about the 2018 season:

We shake up the defensive staff
Tomlin acknowledges that discipline IS an issue that promises to tighten things up
We (somehow) get some good linebacker depth, and maybe shake things up at safety
Shazier makes a miraculous recovery and is able to play next season


I'm a firm believer that defense wins championships, and at the moment, ours is not ready to win at the highest level.

[Edman]

First impressions are everything.

Advice, it isn't in good taste for your first post on the forum to be complaining about the team. That is instant grounds for you be labeled a troll.

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but it would serve you better to introduce yourself first before talking about something like this. Especially after having to deal with the stinker of another Patriots Super Bowl.

With that said, have fun.

[vasteeler]

Ben is still on the team, right?... We still have a hell of a chance. Better than most.

[Hawkman]

Ben is still on the team, right?... We still have a hell of a chance. Better than most.

This.

[st33lersguy]

I agree if shit doesn't change. Art needs to send a clear message that this shit won't get tolerated

[DesertSteel]

First impressions are everything.

Advice, it isn't in good taste for your first post on the forum to be complaining about the team. That is instant grounds for you be labeled a troll.

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but it would serve you better to introduce yourself first before talking about something like this. Especially after having to deal with the stinker of another Patriots Super Bowl.

With that said, have fun.
The same thought that I had before I moved on without posting it.

[AtlantaDan]

There is going to be a dropoff from 13-3 for at least two reasons, although given how the bye worked out so be it

Lower probability of winning so many close games

An 8-2 record in one-score games suggests the Steelers are likely to decline next season

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22146300/predicting-2018-vegas-win-totals-all-32-nfl-teams-unders-season

And a more difficult schedule - play AFC West and NFC South next season rather than AFC South without Watson in Houston along with NFC North without Rodgers in Green Bay in 2017

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There is going to be a dropoff from 13-3 for at least two reasons, although given how the bye worked out so be it

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I still can't figure out how we get the Patriots at home 3 years in a row! If that was the other way around we'd all be screaming CONSPIRACY!!!

[steelreserve]

I still can't figure out how we get the Patriots at home 3 years in a row! If that was the other way around we'd all be screaming CONSPIRACY!!!

Making up for when we played the Broncos on the road every year when we had a key player who couldn't play in the high altitude?

At any rate, I think we should take advantage of the homefield advantage and play some pranks. Like surprise them with a rabid dog waiting in the locker room when they walk in ... bunch of rattlesnakes randomly let loose behind their bench (was going to go with a dozen beehives but those might also get into the crowd) ... 80" monitors installed on their sideline playing gay fetish porn very loudly ... that kind of thing, harmless jokes.

[tube517]

I still can't figure out how we get the Patriots at home 3 years in a row! If that was the other way around we'd all be screaming CONSPIRACY!!!


I remember the Steelers having to play at KC seemingly almost every year in the 2000s.

[teegre]

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Tomlin/the Steelers do pretty well when the opponents and/or the schedule is more "difficult".

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[AtlantaDan]

Tomlin/the Steelers do pretty well when the opponents and/or the schedule is more "difficult".

19-0

FWIW that is a great slate of outside of division home games next season - 4 playoff teams + Chargers, who were a team that was playoff worthy by December

[teegre]

FWIW that is a great slate of outside of division home games next season - 4 playoff teams + Chargers, who were a team that was playoff worthy by December

Aside from the two against the Browns, almost every single game has the potential to be a “prime time” game.

The only “dud” would be Tampa... but, the NFL really wants them to be the next big thing; so, I could see our Thursday night game be against them.

[Born2Steel]

FWIW that is a great slate of outside of division home games next season - 4 playoff teams + Chargers, who were a team that was playoff worthy by December

I agree. That's actually a schedule I can look forward to. Going to be some great games next year.

[GBMelBlount]

Tomlin/the Steelers do pretty well when the opponents and/or the schedule is more "difficult".

19-0

:applaudit:

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/10874278.jpg

[Mojouw]

Well I certainly know that I can't wait for Browns week now!

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/01/browns-will-name-todd-haley-new-offensive-coordinator/

Boss Todd rides again!

[pczach]

Well I certainly know that I can't wait for Browns week now!

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/01/browns-will-name-todd-haley-new-offensive-coordinator/

Boss Todd rides again!




Just when you think things can't get any juicier!

Ben runs 15 consecutive quarterback sneaks to drive down the field and score on the opening drive. :flipoff:

[BlackAndGold]

Improvements are made every off season. Players develop, coaches even develop more.

With Ben returning they'll be back in the hunt to win a championship. Will they? we'll see, but it's worth having some 'faith'.

[Remahlehs]

First impressions are everything.

Advice, it isn't in good taste for your first post on the forum to be complaining about the team. That is instant grounds for you be labeled a troll.

Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but it would serve you better to introduce yourself first before talking about something like this. Especially after having to deal with the stinker of another Patriots Super Bowl.

With that said, have fun.
I appreciate the advice. I hadn't even thought of how my first statement would come off.

I'm not trying to troll, and usually I'm much more optimistic, but the beginning of this offseason has the definition of insanity running through my head:

"Doing the same thing over again and expecting different results".

I want to believe that the defensive staff will attack next season with a whole new mindset. I want to believe that after seemingly having a new story come out about the Steelers every week, that we'll learn to keep things in house and just do work. However, right now, after being able to stop Blake Bortles, it's just hard to imagine that coming to fruition.

As time passes, I'm sure I'll feel better about next season and my faith will return, but for now, it's hard to imagine.

[ALLD]

The NFL will put on a show, but if it is not mandated in NYC, it's not going to happen.

[EzraTank]

Ben is still on the team, right?... We still have a hell of a chance. Better than most.

Ben gave us 42 reasons to beat the Jags and we still came up short. Unless the defense magically figures out how to tap lost speed and talent, we will probably win the division and lose in rounds 1-2.

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I still can't figure out how we get the Patriots at home 3 years in a row! If that was the other way around we'd all be screaming CONSPIRACY!!!

With every play reviewed at the NFL home office every game is a home game for the Pats.

[FrancoLambert]

I appreciate the advice. I hadn't even thought of how my first statement would come off.

I'm not trying to troll, and usually I'm much more optimistic, but the beginning of this offseason has the definition of insanity running through my head:

"Doing the same thing over again and expecting different results".

I want to believe that the defensive staff will attack next season with a whole new mindset. I want to believe that after seemingly having a new story come out about the Steelers every week, that we'll learn to keep things in house and just do work. However, right now, after being able to stop Blake Bortles, it's just hard to imagine that coming to fruition.

As time passes, I'm sure I'll feel better about next season and my faith will return, but for now, it's hard to imagine.

Remahlehs, I'm going to toss you a little support.

I didn't view your initial post as trolling of any kind.

Your comments reflecting your disappointment about the season were reasonable.
Your suggestions for improvement were reasonable and I've read the same posted by many others on this board.


There's legitimate criticism and there's trolling. You weren't trolling.

[Moose]

IF they don't make any changes in the DEFENSE....next year will be the same......score 42 pts and give up 45 ! Secondary ? Tackling ? Pass rushing ? CBs ? " This ain't the old man Rooney's Steelers team !" Getting to be a joke.










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[86WARD]

This team choked away a Super Bowl title this year. Everything lined up and was pretty much handed to them on a silver platter and they dropped the ball...now they are going into 2018 possibly without their best defensive player and arguably one of their best (if not best) offensive players. This team will be lucky to go 10-6/11-5 in 2018 if those two aren’t playing in a Steelers uniform. If Haden doesn’t return, 10-6 will be the best they’ll get and that will be a struggle...

[st33lersguy]

This team cannot keep this defensive coaching staff intact and expect to win a Super Bowl. Coaching is the biggest problem and the defensive coaches that remain are not cutting it

[Moose]

This team choked away a Super Bowl title this year. Everything lined up and was pretty much handed to them on a silver platter and they dropped the ball...now they are going into 2018 possibly without their best defensive player and arguably one of their best (if not best) offensive players. This team will be lucky to go 10-6/11-5 in 2018 if those two aren’t playing in a Steelers uniform. If Haden doesn’t return, 10-6 will be the best they’ll get and that will be a struggle...

Exactly ! This team was lucky to win the games they did against 'sub-par' teams with this crap defense and coaching. Hell, they were lucky to beat teams in our own division, and that's including Cleveland. Next year I could see them lucky to go .500 much less win the division. Pathetic coaching and even pathetic ownership !

[teegre]

Exactly ! This team was lucky to win the games they did against 'sub-par' teams with this crap defense and coaching. Hell, they were lucky to beat teams in our own division, and that's including Cleveland. Next year I could see them lucky to go .500 much less win the division. Pathetic coaching and even pathetic ownership !

We lost 3 games. :huh:

2 losses to the two teams in the AFCCG... and one due (honestly) to the Anthem controversy.


But, yeah... we were that close to going 7-9.

[86WARD]

We lost 3 games. :huh:

2 losses to the two teams in the AFCCG... and one due (honestly) to the Anthem controversy.


But, yeah... we were that close to going 7-9.

If they faced a Vikings team with a healthy starting QB at the time and not one thrown in last minute, that could’ve been a loss. Rodgers healthy, that could’ve been a loss. Healthy Luck...you never know...

It was set up for them this season...

[FrancoLambert]

The bottom line is this season was a lost opportunity to add another Lombardi to our collection.

[Born2Steel]

No! It is never a given season to win it all. The expectation that we should win it all is sometimes the biggest thing working against us. We DID beat the Patriots. 2 losses to the Jags are what we need to get figured out. You're not going to win every game, nobody does. And some losses leave you wondering just what in the hell happened. You have to support the team week in and week out. When they are playing badly, you get behind them and encourage. It's ok to be critical of things, but the constant wanting guys fired gets old. The constant moaning that players suck gets old. Even when the team wins a game some on here complain they didn't win the right way or by enough points. 13 wins, swept the division, first round bye, and for many of you guys, the season just plain sucked. Some of you need a real losing streak to gain some perspective. If this team was a contender last season, why wouldn't they be contenders next season?

[teegre]

If they faced a Vikings team with a healthy starting QB at the time and not one thrown in last minute, that could’ve been a loss. Rodgers healthy, that could’ve been a loss. Healthy Luck...you never know...

It was set up for them this season...

Having the season set up for you would be:

-the Buccaneers missing three FGs
-the refs gifting you a game against the Jets
-the refs gifting you a game against the Texans
-the refs gifting you a game against the Steelers
-getting the #1 seed when you should have been the #3 seed

[pczach]

Having the season set up for you would be:

-the Buccaneers missing three FGs
-the refs gifting you a game against the Jets
-the refs gifting you a game against the Texans
-the refs gifting you a game against the Steelers
-getting the #1 seed when you should have been the #3 seed



Amen

[Fire Goodell]

Having the season set up for you would be:

-the Buccaneers missing three FGs
-the refs gifting you a game against the Jets
-the refs gifting you a game against the Texans
-the refs gifting you a game against the Steelers
-getting the #1 seed when you should have been the #3 seed

Serious question does anyone remember the last time the Patriots* were EVER called for PI, defensive holding, or offensive holding? I swear they never get shit ever called against them, and their play isn't exactly clean either. Martavis Bryant was basically put in an arm bar while making a 1 handed catch, no call. It's shit like that that pisses me off, the pats always get away with crap like that. You sneeze on gronk or brady's WR's though and it's raining flags.

[Moose]

The cheater's are wussies, that's why the ref's have to help them win games. The cheater's are and always will be cheating somewhere...until caught....again. Wouldn't it be interesting to see those SOBs play a game WITHOUT ref's ? Even in Heinz field they get their calls !

[Steeldude]

The Steelers were blessed with a rather easy schedule this year. Next year is going to be tough. I don't see 13-3 next year, but all remains to be seen. If the defense doesn't improve I think the Steelers will be closer to 8-8 than 16-0.

[Moose]

The Steelers were blessed with a rather easy schedule this year. Next year is going to be tough. I don't see 13-3 next year, but all remains to be seen. If the defense doesn't improve I think the Steelers will be closer to 8-8 than 16-0.

Agree !

[vasteeler]

The Steelers were blessed with a rather easy schedule this year. Next year is going to be tough. I don't see 13-3 next year, but all remains to be seen. If the defense doesn't improve I think the Steelers will be closer to 8-8 than 16-0.

8-8...really?!?!

[Steeldude]

8-8...really?!?!

I didn't say they would go 8-8. I said their record would be closer to 8-8 rather than 16-9

[NCSteeler]

Ben throwing pick six in probowl tomlin coaching like he ways does.. Yaya.. So much to look forward to

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[Born2Steel]

Please don't start complaining about effort/coaching/schemes/talent/etc...for the ProBowl.

[NCSteeler]

Please don't start complaining about effort/coaching/schemes/talent/etc...for the ProBowl.Just looks a lot. Like the regular season to me

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[teegre]

If the defense doesn't improve I think the Steelers will be closer to 8-8 than 16-0.

12-4 would be the median... so...

11-5 :nod:

[NCSteeler]

Tomlin about to call a defense that loses the game.. I'm sure

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[NCSteeler]

Damn shame we don't have that guy,, that is a game wrecker a game closer.. Someone you can count on to make a play when you need it.. Maybe it's the drafting guys and not tomlin or does he do that too?

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[st33lersguy]

Saw the final score online and saw the scores while watching Steelers super bowl highlights. Actually stunned the Mike Tomlin/Kieth Butler defense didn't surrender over 30 points to the NFC stars. Of course I saw that the AFC got off to the patented Tomlin slow start down 20-3 which is no surprise

[teegre]

Damn shame we don't have that guy,, that is a game wrecker a game closer.. Someone you can count on to make a play when you need it..


Uh... who??? :noidea:

[pczach]

Uh... who??? :noidea:



Probably anyone not on the Steelers........

My guess would be Von Miller.

[pczach]

Just looks a lot. Like the regular season to me

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Yeah......Ben's 5 TD 1 INT for close to 500 yards and 42 points against the best pass defense in football by a mile was a typical stinker at crunch time. He showed no heart whatsoever.........


You've got to be kidding me with these comments during a Pro Bowl.

[NCSteeler]

Yeah......Ben's 5 TD 1 INT for close to 500 yards and 42 points against the best pass defense in football by a mile was a typical stinker at crunch time. He showed no heart whatsoever.........


You've got to be kidding me with these comments during a Pro Bowl.How about a deep pass with no chance in hell of a completion on 4th down.. Love Ben but it looked a while lot like typical steeper ball

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[pczach]

How about a deep pass with no chance in hell of a completion on 4th down.. Love Ben but it looked a while lot like typical steeper ball

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I think it's time to stop acting like a 2-year-old that lost his woobie.

[DesertSteel]

I think it's time to stop acting like a 2-year-old that lost his woobie.
What's a woobie???

[Born2Steel]

They play base defenses with no scheme in all-star games. No blitzing, No stunts. Man on man, gap assignment defense, man coverages. What exactly are the defensive coaches supposed to be coaching? It's an All-Star game, it's all just for funzees. Offensive huddles sound a lot like "He AB, just go deep and i'll throw it up to you". OR "Okay AJ, your turn. Just get open". It makes a preseason game look like playoff preparation by comparison.

[teegre]

What's a woobie???

220... 221... whatever it takes.

[Born2Steel]

220... 221... whatever it takes.

A "Mr Mom" reference? Wow!!! I feel old now.

[NCSteeler]

They play base defenses with no scheme in all-star games. No blitzing, No stunts. Man on man, gap assignment defense, man coverages. What exactly are the defensive coaches supposed to be coaching? It's an All-Star game, it's all just for funzees. Offensive huddles sound a lot like "He AB, just go deep and i'll throw it up to you". OR "Okay AJ, your turn. Just get open". It makes a preseason game look like playoff preparation by comparison.Oh so that's why the offense couldn't move the ball.. Thanks for explaining it to me.. Y'all take shit a little too seriously.

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[pczach]

Oh so that's why the offense couldn't move the ball.. Thanks for explaining it to me.. Y'all take shit a little too seriously.

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You're the one slamming a Hall of Fame quarterback and whining in every post since they lost to the Jaguars, but you accuse others of taking things too seriously?

It's time for you to do a little self-evaluation.

[pczach]

What's a woobie???


Think security blanket you whippersnapper.:chuckle:

[NCSteeler]

You're the one slamming a Hall of Fame quarterback and whining in every post since they lost to the Jaguars, but you accuse others of taking things too seriously?

It's time for you to do a little self-evaluation.They're observations made with little thought.. Hardly slamming and I don't take any of it seriously.. Maybe I need a few smiley faces I. My posts..

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[Born2Steel]

Maybe.

[Iron Steeler]

This.

This x 10.

[fansince'76]

What's a woobie???

Think security blanket you whippersnapper.:chuckle:

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/80667280/happiness-is-my-woobie.jpg

:chuckle:

[stillers4me]

Ben throwing pick six in probowl tomlin coaching like he ways does.. Yaya.. So much to look forward to

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yep. Has everything to do with next year. :bored:

[EzraTank]

I know this isn't part of this thread but saw it on Facebook and had to post it ...

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[86WARD]

220... 221... whatever it takes.

Lol. Great reference!!