UPDATE: James Harrison signs with Patriots*

[Shoes]

The Pittsburgh Steelers waived linebacker James Harrison on Saturday to make room for tackle Marcus Gilbert on the 53-man roster and since then there’s been a lot of speculation that either the New England Patriots or Baltimore Ravens would claim the veteran pass rusher. Well, that didn’t happen.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/12/james-harrison-goes-unclaimed-waivers/

[Lady Steel]

Good news. Hope he's back with us tomorrow.

[Shoes]

Good news. Hope he's back with us tomorrow.

Agreed,

I think that will be up to James, hopefully he makes the right choice and gets back on the team.

[86WARD]

I hope it’s a deal where he returns tomorrow!

[SteelerFanInStl]

Hope he comes back but I don't think it's going to happen.

[Fire Goodell]

He's done guys, I'll be surprised if he's back

[Shoes]

Hope he comes back but I don't think it's going to happen.

If he's smart he will, going to any other team at this point is only going to go negative on his career. If he retires that would a different matter.

[SteelerFanInStl]

If he's smart he will, going to any other team at this point is only going to go negative on his career. If he retires that would a different matter.

I don't think he'll sign with another team. I think he's just done. Why should he come back to the Steelers? He wasn't getting a chance to play and I don't see that changing.

[Shoes]

I don't think he'll sign with another team. I think he's just done. Why should he come back to the Steelers? He wasn't getting a chance to play and I don't see that changing.

If he's a team player he'll be back.

[DesertSteel]

I don't think he'll sign with another team. I think he's just done. Why should he come back to the Steelers? He wasn't getting a chance to play and I don't see that changing.
Super Bowl

[SteelerFanInStl]

If he's a team player he'll be back.

A team player? LMAO! The Steelers cut him right before Christmas and wouldn't even let him on the field.

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You mean stand on the sidelines during the Super Bowl? A man like James doesn't want to stand on the sidelines. He wants to play and this team has shown him that's not going to happen. That's why there's no reason for him to re-sign.

[Shoes]

A team player? LMAO! The Steelers cut him right before Christmas and wouldn't even let him on the field.

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You mean stand on the sidelines during the Super Bowl? A man like James doesn't want to stand on the sidelines. He wants to play and this team has shown him that's not going to happen. That's why there's no reason for him to re-sign.

Then he's not a team player. No one knows what was going on there, we'll see.

[DesertSteel]

You mean stand on the sidelines during the Super Bowl? A man like James doesn't want to stand on the sidelines. He wants to play and this team has shown him that's not going to happen. That's why there's no reason for him to re-sign.
His number could be called at any time and even if not, yeah a freaking super bowl ring.

[SteelerFanInStl]

His number could be called at any time and even if not, yeah a freaking super bowl ring.

He gets a ring if the Steelers win the SB even if he doesn't re-sign.

[st33lersguy]

Depth at olb is porous, they need him around.

[DesertSteel]

He gets a ring if the Steelers win the SB even if he doesn't re-sign.
Not the same as being there. At the point I don't care if he resigns or not. I'd just like a happy ending.

[cubanstogie]

Not the same as being there. At the point I don't care if he resigns or not. I'd just like a happy ending.
who doesn't like a happy ending.

[SteelerFanInStl]

who doesn't like a happy ending.

I know I sure do. :grin:

[steelreserve]

who doesn't like a happy ending.

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[Fire Goodell]

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[Steeldude]

If he's a team player he'll be back.

I doubt he would return. He isn't happy about being lied to about playing time. IMO, the coaches didn't treat him as a part of the team. Harrison bailed them out many, many times, but he gets lied to and dumped.

[ALLD]

Maybe he just wanted Christmas off and got cut for a mini vacation?

[DesertSteel]

I doubt he would return. He isn't happy about being lied to about playing time. IMO, the coaches didn't treat him as a part of the team. Harrison bailed them out many, many times, but he gets lied to and dumped.
In what way was he lied to? Was he promised X% of snaps? What exactly? Do you have quotes to that effect?

[Born2Steel]

I doubt the conversation between Tomlin and Harrison ever gets made public. The speculation that JH was mistreated is only because 'we' expected him to get more playing time. None of 'us' know how things went down. For all we know, JH was told to expect this from the beginning of the season.

I can see JH resign with the Steelers, sign to play for Lebeau again, or retire.

[Steeldude]

In what way was he lied to? Was he promised X% of snaps? What exactly? Do you have quotes to that effect?

Evidently he was told he would play otherwise he wouldn't have signed. Do you think Harrison signed because they implied he wouldn't play?

[DesertSteel]

Evidently he was told he would play otherwise he wouldn't have signed. Do you think Harrison signed because they implied he wouldn't play?
I don't think that's how the NFL works lol. That's why it's known to stand for Not For Long.

[tube517]

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[Bluecoat96]

Meh. James can go wherever he wants. He'd still be a Steeler if he was able to do what the Steelers asked of him on the field.

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[Hawkman]

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Maybe he’s there to secretly video their practice. :hmm:

[86WARD]

With all the injuries the Pats have on defense, I’d be shocked if they didn’t sign him today.

[Iron Steeler]

Patriots are going after him

[Steel 36 Bus]

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/12/report-james-harrison-visiting-patriots-tuesday/


Hopefully it is just for Intel.

[Bluecoat96]

So many people are upset over the supposed bad treatment of Harrison. Honestly, I think his lack of playing time is due to Watt far surpassing anyone's expectations more than anything. Hell, I love James. I have his jersey in my closet. I think back to the years of Ike and Troy and da beard playing far past their prime. I'm glad to see the Steelers being realistic rather than playing James out of loyalty.

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[86WARD]

Steelers figured NE, Ten or Ravens would go after James Harrison upon release. Return to Steelers not out of question per @JasonLaCanfora #Steelers

[st33lersguy]

This is why you wait until after the season to release Harrison

[salamander]

Saw that coming from a mile away.

[86WARD]

This is why you wait until after the season to release Harrison

Let’s be honest...we all love Silverback but he wasn’t nearly as good as he was last season and he’s a liability on passing downs. I’m sure he will make a couple plays against the Steelers if he were to sign with NE and they were to meet again...but one, so did Terrell Suggs and the Steelers survived him and two, he’s going to give up plays too if he’s out there during a pass play.

Does it really scare anyone if they were to face him at this stage?

[43Hitman]

Let’s be honest...we all love Silverback but he wasn’t nearly as good as he was last season and he’s a liability on passing downs. I’m sure he will make a couple plays against the Steelers if he were to sign with NE and they were to meet again...but one, so did Terrell Suggs and the Steelers survived him and two, he’s going to give up plays too if he’s out there during a pass play.

Does it really scare anyone if they were to face him at this stage?
Nope, not at all. We just put Bell out to his side and throw over his head.

[zulater]

Done deal! Harrison is now a Patriot.

[86WARD]

Lol. If they play the Pats in the AFCCG, it’s a guarantee that Harrison will make a play or two...

[43Hitman]

This board is going to blow up. Let the games begin. :lol:

[86WARD]

You knew it was coming. The Patriots would’ve been stupid too let him leave and not sign him with all the injuries they have. They need all the help they can get on defense and he will help. He just couldn’t play OLB for Pittsburgh. He didn’t have the skill set.

[vader29]

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[salamander]

Unbelievable.

[vasteeler]

Ugh... I for now hate James Harrison, that sucks

[Devilsdancefloor]

just makes me sad, that is all

[FrancoLambert]

Typical Belichick.....looking for any edge at all.
In this case I think it's more for planning than performance.
As someone else posted, have him matched up with Bell out of the backfield.

[Edman]

The plot continues to thicken on this Patriots-Steelers soap opera.

Time will tell if Tomlin outsmarted himself...again.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

One thing is for sure James will finally get all the non holding calls he should have had in spades now.

[hwalker84]

Done deal! Harrison is now a Patriot.
Sad sad day...

[Iron Steeler]

The plot continues to thicken on this Patriots-Steelers soap opera.

Time will tell if Tomlin outsmarted himself...again.


Why did we cut him? Sensabaugh. Xavier grimble. Toussaint. all players we could of cut

[vader29]

:puke:

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[salamander]

Excuse me while I throw up.

:yuck:

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Excuse me while I throw up.

:yuck: Yep me too!

[Steeltreal]

If there were ever a time to burn a Jersey.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

If there were ever a time to burn a Jersey. Or smoke a Blunt.

[86WARD]

Ugh that picture makes me sick...

[cold-hard-steel]

James has infiltrated deep into enemy territory . So far so good. I think he should have done better than just turn his reverseable Steeler hoodie inside out.

[lipps83]

Steelers have literally, not figuratively, literally got to be the dumbest team in the NFL.

The dumbest. The dumberest. The dumbester.

Idiots.

[86WARD]

I don’t like this move, but it doesn’t scare me...makes me sick, but doesn’t scare me.

[AtlantaDan]

It’s a business but there is a story why a waste of oxygen like McCullers was not the one to be cut

He may be a factor in the rematch but nobody knows the flaws in Harrison’s game these days than the Steelers do

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Steelers have literally, not figuratively, literally got to be the dumbest team in the NFL.

The dumbest. The dumberest. The dumbester.

Idiots.

Ever heard of the Cleveland Browns?

[Mamaduck43]

I hope that he is wired tyhe whole time he is there and pulls a Blount and walks off of the field at the playoff game with tapes to turn over to the NFL on the Cheats actions..... He didn't help the Bungles all that much a few years ago.... No grudge is worth losing what he had here...

[salamander]

I understand the business aspect, but why did it have to be the Cheaters?

[Steeltreal]

Not even worried about him Playing snaps. It's about all about his Intel on his former Team

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

It’s a business but there is a story why a waste of oxygen like McCullers was not the one to be cut

He may be a factor in the rematch but nobody knows the flaws in Harrison’s game these days than the Steelers do

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Agreed, they must know or think Deebo doesn't have anything left, as they could have left McCullers or Feiler in the wind instead of letting a rival get a guy that could help them in the playoff run. I guess we will see

[86WARD]

Steelers know his weaknesses. They expected him to go to TEN, BALT or NE so they don’t think it’s a big deal. He’s not the player he was and can’t play in the Steelers Defense and he was bitter about it. He will help the Pats no doubt, but he couldn’t help the Steelers.

At first thought, McCullers came to mind but in the big scheme, it’s probably better to keep McCullers because he can play a bit in the Steelers Defense where Harrison has shown, this season, that it wasn’t working for him. Also in the long run, if McCullers signs somewhere next year, there’s a chance they get more compensation for him than they would for Harrison, especially if Harrison retires.

There’s nothing to really be scared about. It’s not like the Patriots don’t already know the Steelers Defensive Playbook and it’s not like the Steelers don’t change the signals every so often...

[FrancoLambert]

Why did we cut him? Sensabaugh. Xavier grimble. Toussaint. all players we could of cut

Short sighted move....not thought out too well.

Don't think the Hoodie would touch either of the above.

Already I like Ridley better than Touissant.

[fansince'76]

Typical Belichick.....looking for any edge at all.
In this case I think it's more for planning than performance.
As someone else posted, have him matched up with Bell out of the backfield.

At this point in their respective careers, that's a HUGE mismatch in the Steelers' favor. Bell will leave him lunging at air.

I'll take that matchup all day if the teams meet in the AFCCG again.

[BlackAndGold]

*shrugs*

[NCSteeler]

That fact that this front office couldn't find one scrub are you serious. I'm good with cutting Harrison but you do it smart not in the middle of a playoff run when you openly expect three of your possible foes to sign him. Dumb dumb dumb.

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[NCSteeler]

You think he doesn't know our tackles weaknesses. He is still capable of a strip sack in the right passing down

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[Craic]

Typical Belichick.....looking for any edge at all.
In this case I think it's more for planning than performance.
As someone else posted, have him matched up with Bell out of the backfield.

You know what this signing tells me? It tells me that lucky win by the Pats* put us in their head, and they're worried about the AFCCG.

[DesertSteel]

It’s a shame that Harrison is now going to miss out on a Super Bowl ring.

[SteelerFanInStl]

It’s a shame that Harrison is now going to miss out on a Super Bowl ring.

How's that? Again, if the Steelers win the Super Bowl, James will still get a ring. Every player that was on the roster that year gets one. All that he's done is double down.

[BlackAndGold]

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Seems like the players aren't to happy he signed with the Pats.

[vader29]

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[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

How's that? Again, if the Steelers win the Super Bowl, James will still get a ring. Every player that was on the roster that year gets one. All that he's done is double down. I bet that is void if you play for another team after getting cut.

[BlackAndGold]

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Same Mike, same.

[DesertSteel]

Steelers have literally, not figuratively, literally got to be the dumbest team in the NFL.

The dumbest. The dumberest. The dumbester.

Idiots.
Perhaps the dumbest post of the season.

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How's that? Again, if the Steelers win the Super Bowl, James will still get a ring. Every player that was on the roster that year gets one. All that he's done is double down.
Again, it ain’t the same. The groundskeeper gets one too. The ring is just an emblem. The phrase means you were on the team, not just a technicality.

[BostonBlackie]

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A little avacado ice cream and Harrison will be back to his old self.

[Rotorhead]

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Seems like the players aren't to happy he signed with the Pats.

What the hell does that even mean? "He Food"

I think we should have kept him and released some other waste of roster space (several have been listed on here). I think this for 2 reasons, the first is we talked him out of retirement, so it was a BS move to release him like this. Second, if one of our OLB's goes down, he was still probably the best pass rusher on the team, so we better not get any OLB's injured.

As for anger about him signing with the Pats, I can't be angry. He still wants to play and they were willing to pay him to do so. I wish him luck and hope he retires as a Steeler when he is ready.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Steelers releasing him was a dick move on their part! This is the second time Harrison chose to go to a team that can best hurt them. Dick move on his part again.

[Fire Goodell]

Alright fuck James Harrison. I hope Decastro goes low on you and ends your career for good

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I understand the business aspect, but why did it have to be the Cheaters?
Intel move. He probably knows this himself. Fucking traitor

[JayC]

the cheats always get one over on tomlin. it's sad really.

[BlackAndGold]

the cheats always get one over on tomlin. it's sad really.

Totally, Tomlin didn't realize that if he released Harrison he was free to sign anywhere.

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I think we should have kept him and released some other waste of roster space (several have been listed on here).

Harrison was a waste of a roster spot....yeah I know, tough to admit.

[Moose]

Do you really think Harrison will tell the cheats anything about the the Steeler's that they don't already know ? And do you really think that the Steeler's haven't thought about all that has been said about the Harrison deal ? I'm sure the F.O. weighed all the pros/cons. I'm not concerned about us without Harrison on the team....it was a poor secondary that cost us that game a few weeks ago.....not Harrison.

[Iron Steeler]

I would of rather cut sensabaugh.

[fansince'76]

the cheats always get one over on tomlin. it's sad really.

Not nearly as sad as this post...

[NCSteeler]

Pats weaknesses is run stopping. James fills that void. Now you just have to catch him on the field and pass. Bad thing is Ben and the Steelers are no Manning who was awesome at going hurry up at the right moment and catching you in a bad personnel alignment.

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[BlackAndGold]

What is the difference if the Pats signed Coty, McCullers or anyone else fans rather seen cut? There is none.

I have no idea why fans are flipping tf out. Harrison is done, accept that. Because if he wasn't he would still be a Steeler and not be on the inactive list most of the season.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

What is the difference if the Pats signed Coty, McCullers or anyone else fans rather seen cut? There is none.

I have no idea why fans are flipping tf out. Harrison is done, accept that. Because if he wasn't he would still be a Steeler and not be on the inactive list most of the season. Because the Steelers thought he was done years back and went with Jarvis Jones. So I can get it to a point.

[Bluecoat96]

What is the difference if the Pats signed Coty, McCullers or anyone else fans rather seen cut? There is none.

I have no idea why fans are flipping tf out. Harrison is done, accept that. Because if he wasn't he would still be a Steeler and not be on the inactive list most of the season.This. Love the man, but it was time.

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[st33lersguy]

The latest demonstration of how bellichick is so much smarter than tomlin. No wonder tomlin and his coaching staff get so thoroughly outclassed by new England all the time.

If there is a rematch in the championship game (And at this point it's far from a sure thing if Pittsburgh will even make it that far) does anyone really think that tomlin and his idiot coordinators won't find a way to lose against new England like they always do?

[BlackAndGold]

Because the Steelers thought he was done years back and went with Jarvis Jones. So I can get it to a point.

He was cut due to his cap hit back in 2013, they wanted to keep him. JH should've accepted the pay cut.

[st33lersguy]

If TJ Watt goes down, all that they'll have left at olb is

Dud Dupree who is only good at getting pushed completely away from the play
Arthur Moats and Anthony Chickillo, two players who are completely useless.

They completely misused Harrison all year, they refuse to play him even after he helped close out the Kansas city game, then they basically allow new England to pick him up, and surely bellichick will use him better

[BlackAndGold]

The latest demonstration of how bellichick is so much smarter than tomlin. No wonder tomlin and his coaching staff get so thoroughly outclassed by new England all the time.

If there is a rematch in the championship game (And at this point it's far from a sure thing if Pittsburgh will even make it that far) does anyone really think that tomlin and his idiot coordinators won't find a way to lose against new England like they always do?

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[fansince'76]

He was cut due to his cap hit back in 2013, they wanted to keep him. JH should've accepted the pay cut.

The irony is that he DID sign with Cincy for less than what the Steelers offered. And was basically a nonfactor for the Bengals to boot.

[fansince'76]

The latest demonstration of how bellichick is so much smarter than tomlin. No wonder tomlin and his coaching staff get so thoroughly outclassed by new England all the time.

If there is a rematch in the championship game (And at this point it's far from a sure thing if Pittsburgh will even make it that far) does anyone really think that tomlin and his idiot coordinators won't find a way to lose against new England like they always do?

Please. The only reason they won this last time was because of a bullshit overturned TD.

[BlackAndGold]

The irony is that he DID sign with Cincy for less than what the Steelers offered. And was basically a nonfactor for the Bengals to boot.

I completely expect the same with the Pats.

[fansince'76]

I completely expect the same with the Pats.

No, I'm sure Belichick, being the exalted super genius that he is, will somehow bend the space-time continuum to resurrect the JH of 2008... :chuckle:

[NCSteeler]

I completely expect the same with the Pats.I'm not so sure . Pays need a guy that can play the run and I think James is capable of that. He could be a weakness if teams catch him in and pass shirt. But my guess is hoodie will have a plan for that . IDK buy history says Tomlin and the. Front office have a weak track record against the hooded cheater

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[st33lersguy]

Please. The only reason they won this last time was because of a bullshit overturned TD.

It had nothing to do with the clueless OC turtling with the lead, the defense going soft on the last TD drive, and the entire team being completely unprepared following the overturned td?

[steelerdude15]

The irony is that he DID sign with Cincy for less than what the Steelers offered. And was basically a nonfactor for the Bengals to boot.

I think he was a nonfactor with the Bengals because he wasn't used properly, but I could be wrong.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Apparently Tomlin and crew saw this coming and didn't care so we shall see.

[BostonBlackie]

The Patriots****************cheaters****************** *deflaters********* didn't pick him up just to play head games. I don't know what role they have in mind, might not be just to pass rush, but if it works, good, if it doesn't, no loss. It's an all possible upside, no possible downside, move.


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[Shoes]

Belichick presented the bait and hid the hook, the golden cup and hid the poison and Harrison swallowed both. This was an info hire and not much more, it was also a way for Harrison to get a bit of revenge on the Steelers. This imo is lower than signing with the Bengals because its a direct insult to the team and fans. I've lost all respect for him as a football player.




How's that? Again, if the Steelers win the Super Bowl, James will still get a ring. Every player that was on the roster that year gets one. All that he's done is double down.


James shouldn't take a ring if the Steelers win the SB. Remember, *HE DIDN'T EARN IT*, he surely wouldn't take the ring since he made his kids take back their participation trophies they didn't earn would he?

[FrancoLambert]

What is the difference if the Pats signed Coty, McCullers or anyone else fans rather seen cut? There is none.

I have no idea why fans are flipping tf out. Harrison is done, accept that. Because if he wasn't he would still be a Steeler and not be on the inactive list most of the season.

Well, between Sensabaugh, McCullers, and Harrison who has the best chance of impacting a game.....or even a few plays?

Harrison may indeed be done but I still like him over McCullers. McCullers is THE waste of space...on the roster and on the field.

He's done nothing at all since he's been on the team.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Harrison is dead to me now as a fan and time to move on.

[BostonBlackie]

I've lost all respect for him as a football player.


Why? Hiters are hiters. Take away his uniform and he'll put another one on, and hit with that one. What's wrong with that?

[EzraTank]

So many here posting with their 10 year old memories of Harrison returning that TD in the Superbowl back when he WAS a stud.

The guy is 39 and looks every bit 39. He's slow, old and can't play in the NFL anymore. I watched him whenever I could this season. He's a step behind every play.

And the Patriots don't need any help exploiting our defense. Even without Harrison telling them anything if we play the same defense against them ... then we're going to lose anyhow.

[Shoes]

Why? Hiters are hiters. Take away his uniform and he'll put another one on, and hit with that one. What's wrong with that?

Cheaters are Cheaters and the pats are cheaters thats whats wrong with that.

[BostonBlackie]

Cheaters are Cheaters and the pats are cheaters thats whats wrong with that.

Ha ha, sure, and the refs stole the game.

[Shoes]

Ha ha, sure, and the refs stole the game.

Your the only one laughing.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Cheaters are Cheaters and the pats are cheaters thats whats wrong with that. Yep lost a lot of respect I had for him.

[BostonBlackie]

Your the only one laughing.

Wanna bet?

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The Steelers let the guy go, but it's his fault, and the Patriots fault. Funny stuff.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Ha ha, sure, and the refs stole the game. Which one in the last two weeks ?
1. Steelers
2. Bills
3. Both

Pick one and there is no wrong answer so no pressure.

[Shoes]

Wanna bet?

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The Steelers let the guy go, but it's his fault, and the Patriots fault. Funny stuff.

It could very well be his fault, no one knows at this point. He just made a bad choice for the second time. I'll tell you whats funny, Bill and Tom, great coach and player but they stooped to cheating.

[BostonBlackie]

It could very well be his fault, no one knows at this point. He just made a bad choice for the second time.

Last time I checked Harrison was a free man and his life is his life, not yours or the Steelers.

[cubanstogie]

take the name and number off back of jersey and it makes sense. The fact that they kept JH instead of signing Navarro Bowman or someone 10 years younger who could play more than 10 snaps is whats confusing. On the surface it was a bizarre time to make this move but we have no idea whats happening behind scenes. Tomlin signed ex patriot RB, why does hoodie get credit for smart move but Tomlin is out coached by letting him go to Pats. As far as I'm concerned now, James is a punk playing on a team that cheats and gets special attention from league and Refs. Adios JH, hope to see you crying on sideline after Steelers kick Patsies ass in AFC championship.

[DesertSteel]

Last time I checked Harrison was a free man and his life is his life, not yours or the Steelers.
You know the problem? You're on a Steelers board. You've been pretty nice and fairly respected. But when you come into threads where the Steeler fans are venting about something they don't like, we don't need you chiming in to give us a lecture. You're a free man too, but use your freedom wisely around here before you lose all the respect you've gained.

[SteelerFanInStl]

James shouldn't take a ring if the Steelers win the SB. Remember, *HE DIDN'T EARN IT*, he surely wouldn't take the ring since he made his kids take back their participation trophies they didn't earn would he?

I suggest that you present that option to him in person.

[NCSteeler]

take the name and number off back of jersey and it makes sense. The fact that they kept JH instead of signing Navarro Bowman or someone 10 years younger who could play more than 10 snaps is whats confusing. On the surface it was a bizarre time to make this move but we have no idea whats happening behind scenes. Tomlin signed ex patriot RB, why does hoodie get credit for smart move but Tomlin is out coached by letting him go to Pats. As far as I'm concerned now, James is a punk playing on a team that cheats and gets special attention from league and Refs. Adios JH, hope to see you crying on sideline after Steelers kick Patsies ass in AFC championship.You comparing signing a five team nobody to grabbing up a teams sack leader and locker room leader. Seriously?

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[Shoes]

I suggest that you present that option to him in person.

I would with no hesitation.

[FrancoLambert]

Ha ha, sure, and the refs stole the game.

They did.

As expected, not the prevailing belief in New England, but after listening to football talk and analysis from neutral observers from around the country, it supports your statement...excuse me, your bait.

[Shoes]

http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2015/09/08/james-harrison-on-patriots-i-feel-like-they-cheated/

LMAO, now he's one of them!

[SteelerFanInStl]

I would with no hesitation.

LMAO! Sure you would.

[Shoes]

Last time I checked Harrison was a free man and his life is his life, not yours or the Steelers.

Indeed, he'll go out playing with cheaters.

[BostonBlackie]

You know the problem? You're on a Steelers board. You've been pretty nice and fairly respected. But when you come into threads where the Steeler fans are venting about something they don't like, we don't need you chiming in to give us a lecture. You're a free man too, but use your freedom wisely around here before you lose all the respect you've gained.

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.

[Shoes]

LMAO! Sure you would.

I would indeed, but that shouldn't be necessary if he practices what he's preached.

[AtlantaDan]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.

Given that this is a Steelers fan message board, no your opinion is not as valued - you come here on occasion to troll (including on Christmas Eve - seriously?) and your views are valued accordingly, at least by me

Post what you damn well please but get over not feeling the warmth for what you post here

[Mojouw]

This thread is hilarious!

Read the comp pick rules. Harrison won’t count.

No team will ever willingly go light at DB - even moderately competent guys like Sensabaugh are roster locks in the NFL.

McCullers is the 6 DLineman in a team that now plays a ton of 3 DL sub packages since Shaziers injury. So not going light there.

With ABs injury can’t go light at WR. Shaziers injury means you need all the ILBs you can get your hands on.

I could go on. Like it or not Harrison was the 5th OLB on the team. A roster luxury that could no longer be afforded.

I’ve been and still am a massive James Harrison fan. But this much hand wringing and pearl clutching over a 39 year old rush linebacker who has been a game day inactive most weeks? Highlarious.


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[steelreserve]

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Weird, I never thought Harrison was gay. I guess the lure is powerful.

In all seriousness though, I don't know why you'd sign with that team unless you just wanted to be the biggest possible douche in the game of football. Were the Pyongyang Child Molesters not in the market for a pass rusher?

[Shoes]

This thread is hilarious!

Read the comp pick rules. Harrison won’t count.

No team will ever willingly go light at DB - even moderately competent guys like Sensabaugh are roster locks in the NFL.

McCullers is the 6 DLineman in a team that now plays a ton of 3 DL sub packages since Shaziers injury. So not going light there.

With ABs injury can’t go light at WR. Shaziers injury means you need all the ILBs you can get your hands on.

I could go on. Like it or not Harrison was the 5th OLB on the team. A roster luxury that could no longer be afforded.

I’ve been and still am a massive James Harrison fan. But this much hand wringing and pearl clutching over a 39 year old rush linebacker who has been a game day inactive most weeks? Highlarious.


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Somehow I don't think his former teammates think so.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/12/steelers-defensive-players-respond-harrison-signing-patriots/ (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/12/steelers-defensive-players-respond-harrison-signing-patriots/)

[steelreserve]

I’ve been and still am a massive James Harrison fan. But this much hand wringing and pearl clutching over a 39 year old rush linebacker who has been a game day inactive most weeks? Highlarious.


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I think it's mostly about the stolen playbook. We'd better come up with some new signals by then.

[pczach]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.


"Why? Hiters are hiters. Take away his uniform and he'll put another one on, and hit with that one. What's wrong with that?"


Merry Christmas: https://www.grammarly.com/

[Hawkman]

Merry Christmas: https://www.grammarly.com/

:rofl2:Took me a minute

[teegre]

Pyongyang Child Molesters

:lol:

/thread

[st33lersguy]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.

Wah wah, no one outside of boston likes my cheatriots fan troll shtick wah wah.

[pczach]

:rofl2:Took me a minute


Yeah, BostonBlackie dropped that on a member here in another thread. I figured I'd throw his same shit all over him when he makes posts with bad grammar and spelling.

If he's going to insult one of ours, he's going to get his balls busted about it when he does the same thing.

[Hawkman]

Pyongyang Child Molesters

:lol:

/thread

That seemed a little over the top.:heh:

[Slimdugger99]

It’s stupid hating on Harrison for the Steelers bush move. New England see’s value in Harrison that the Steelers fail to recognize, his ability to speed rush the quarterback from the outside edge. He will blow past the slow and clumsy Villanueva repeatedly, to hurry, hit, and sack Roethlisberger into mistakes that weren’t made in the first game. Ask Big Ben how he feels about this prospective matchup. This release shows the short sightedness of the Pittsburgh front office in handing the competition a potent weapon who has an additional motivation to inflict damage on the organization that has disrespected and dismissed him.


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[Steeldude]

This thread is hilarious!

Read the comp pick rules. Harrison won’t count.

No team will ever willingly go light at DB - even moderately competent guys like Sensabaugh are roster locks in the NFL.

McCullers is the 6 DLineman in a team that now plays a ton of 3 DL sub packages since Shaziers injury. So not going light there.

With ABs injury can’t go light at WR. Shaziers injury means you need all the ILBs you can get your hands on.

I could go on. Like it or not Harrison was the 5th OLB on the team. A roster luxury that could no longer be afforded.

I’ve been and still am a massive James Harrison fan. But this much hand wringing and pearl clutching over a 39 year old rush linebacker who has been a game day inactive most weeks? Highlarious.


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McCullers has played 11 snaps this year. I don't think he has played even one snap since Shazier went down. They could find any DL on the free agent market to produce the output McCullers has during his career.

They could have cut Feiler too.

Hopefully Harrison won't play well vs the Steelers.

[fansince'76]

Pro Bowl starter = "slow and clumsy." OK...

[Shoes]

Pro Bowl starter = "slow and clumsy." OK...

I think its BostonBlackie or one of his clones from the pats forum. :chuckle:

[NCSteeler]

McCullers has played 11 snaps this year. I don't think he has played even one snap since Shazier went down. They could find any DL on the free agent market to produce the output McCullers has during his career.

They could have cut Feiler too.

Hopefully Harrison won't play well vs the Steelers.I'm 100% they could have cut feiler for Gilbert and no one would have rushed to pick him up. Cutting players is not just about making your team better you never want to give a rival a key component. He'll we are starting Spence WTF do we care if we gotta hit the streets for a player. Our line backing depth must be in depression counseling after seeing Spence come in over them and start.

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[fansince'76]

Given that this is a Steelers fan message board, no your opinion is not as valued - you come here on occasion to troll (including on Christmas Eve - seriously?) and your views are valued accordingly, at least by me

Post what you damn well please but get over not feeling the warmth for what you post here

He used to be "Hardwork" back in the day on SF. He's toned the trolling down quite a bit, actually.

[st33lersguy]

I think its BostonBlackie or one of his clones from the pats forum. :chuckle:

Could be crash, he hates AV

[Hawkman]

McCullers has played 11 snaps this year. I don't think he has played even one snap since Shazier went down. They could find any DL on the free agent market to produce the output McCullers has during his career.

They could have cut Feiler too.

Hopefully Harrison won't play well vs the Steelers.

No to Feiler, he actually played on Monday. They have 9 OL players for five positions. They had 9 LBs for 4 positions. It’s a math thing, and I know you would love to have seen them cut Dupree, but that wasn’t going to happen.
I remember several years ago when three linemen went down in one game and they only dressed 7. Heath had to play OT for a few snaps until they could patch up one of the guys enough to go back in. They were moving that line all around.

[tube517]

Could be crash, he hates AV

This.

[Hawkman]

Pro Bowl starter = "slow and clumsy." OK...

Gone yet?:ban: (couldn’t find the TROLL one)

[Slimdugger99]

I think its BostonBlackie or one of his clones from the pats forum. :chuckle:

No, I’m a lifelong Steelers fan from Pittsburgh, but the truth is impossible to ignore. I’ve watched Harrison and Villanueva their entire careers, have you? As a tackle, Villanueva is more of an obstacle than a stud, and as such is the perfect foil for Harrison. They will have to help the slow, clumsy left tackle with Harrison in N.E.’s lineup. This stupid, not to mention disrespectful, release of a Steelers legend is beyond the support of this lifelong Black and Gold fan.


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[Hawkman]

Like it or not Harrison was the 5th OLB on the team. A roster luxury that could no longer be afforded.


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THIS, THIS AND THIS AGAIN!

[DesertSteel]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.
That's right you post what you want on Steelers forum and I have zero respect for you as a guest.

You are full Troll status.

[Hawkman]

No, I’m a lifelong Steelers fan from Pittsburgh, but the truth is impossible to ignore. I’ve watched Harrison and Villanueva their entire careers, have you? As a tackle, Villanueva is more of an obstacle than a stud, and as such is the perfect foil for Harrison. They will have to help the slow, clumsy left tackle with Harrison in N.E.’s lineup. This stupid, not to mention disrespectful, release of a Steelers legend is beyond the support of this lifelong Black and Gold fan.


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Fraud :rofl2:.....guess you missed AV’s effort against Clowney. Missed once. Go back to your bridge.

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It’s stupid hating on Harrison for the Steelers bush move. New England see’s value in Harrison that the Steelers fail to recognize, his ability to speed rush the quarterback from the outside edge. He will blow past the slow and clumsy Villanueva repeatedly, to hurry, hit, and sack Roethlisberger into mistakes that weren’t made in the first game. Ask Big Ben how he feels about this prospective matchup. This release shows the short sightedness of the Pittsburgh front office in handing the competition a potent weapon who has an additional motivation to inflict damage on the organization that has disrespected and dismissed him.


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.......and how many plays have you seen from JH THIS SEASON, to support your point?

[Craic]

How many here who are saying they lost respect for Harrison have argued, "this is a business"? If you haven't, that's fine. If you have, that argument negates any kind of lost respect.

[Iron Steeler]

Damn we had a troll and I missed him!

Not gonna like Harrison matches up very well againsy AV .

AV even said it himself.

[Lady Steel]

Okay, so I had to hear about this shitfest while at work today.

Fuck you, James Harrison. Just... FUCK YOU! Any other team. ANY other. But you had to sign with THE enemy. You had to know how much this would hurt your "former" teammates and Steelers Nation. You are dead to me.

I wonder how many "random" drug tests he will have now that he's with the Patriots. My guess... 0.

[Lady Steel]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.

Shut up. There may be some here who respect you, but I'm not one of them. I've always thought you were a douche canoe. I've never seen a Patriots fan who wasn't. You don't come into our house and dictate what we say and do.

In other words, fuck off!

[Hawkman]

How many here who are saying they lost respect for Harrison have argued, "this is a business"? If you haven't, that's fine. If you have, that argument negates any kind of lost respect.

No lost respect here, sorry the way it ended and sorry he ended up with the Pats. Will always love him for the interception return for a td in the SB, and his Captain InsaneO, move on the Browns fan.

[Lady Steel]

945846479704543233

Oh my! :lol:



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[Slimdugger99]

Fraud :rofl2:

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.......and how many plays have you seen from JH THIS SEASON, to support your point?

Well, he hasn’t had that many opportunities, but what about the sack to end Kansas City’s comeback at the end of the game. I think he was pretty much withheld from that game forward. As for Villanueva, all you need do is watch him play. I’ll bet you don’t watch offensive line play, but instead rely on other peoples take on the line play as a group. If you watched his play you would have seen what I did. Big, strong, clumsy, poor technique, average ability. Big and strong and West Point hype got him to pro bowl. Clumsy, slow, and poor technique leaves him vulnerable to faster more athletic opponents.


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[Hawkman]

Well, he hasn’t had that many opportunities, but what about the sack to end Kansas City’s comeback at the end of the game. I think he was pretty much withheld from that game forward. As for Villanueva, all you need do is watch him play. I’ll bet you don’t watch offensive line play, but instead rely on other peoples take on the line play as a group. If you watched his play you would have seen what I did. Big, strong, clumsy, poor technique, average ability. Big and strong and West Point hype got him to pro bowl. Clumsy, slow, and poor technique leaves him vulnerable to faster more athletic opponents.


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You just joined today and your telling me how much I watch line play........seriously? I would argue with you, but I can’t take you seriously.

[Slimdugger99]

You just joined today and your telling me how much I watch line play........seriously? I would argue with you, but I can’t take you seriously.

What does when I joined have to do with anything? Talk football, not mush. If you watched you would know. The smart thing to do is to let the season play out, focusing on how Harrison, Villanueva are used; if they are even part of the post season equation is yet to be determined. But if this match up comes to pass, we will see whose insights were accurate. I still expect the Steelers to win the AFC championship and then the Super Bowl. That doesn’t change my opinion on the Harrison release and how the Patriots will target Villanueva.


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[SteelMayhem72]

945767574322675712

Seems like the players aren't to happy he signed with the Pats.Dupree needs to keep his mouth shut...I mean Jarvis Dupree needs to shut up

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[SteelMayhem72]

No, that's not the problem. The problem is the players don't need you chiming in on their decisions concerning how they live their life. Their the ones on the field. Their the ones sacrificing their bodies, and brains, on the field. It's their health, their money, their families, and their decisions. Respect that or not, but don't tell me what to post or not to post. My opinion on this is just as valuble as yours.Just out of curiosity...how long have you been a Patriots fan? Give me an approximate year you started

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[SteelMayhem72]

Given that this is a Steelers fan message board, no your opinion is not as valued - you come here on occasion to troll (including on Christmas Eve - seriously?) and your views are valued accordingly, at least by me

Post what you damn well please but get over not feeling the warmth for what you post hereThis^...can't come into an opposing teams board and expect to be respected by others...granted you have mostly been nice but on this sensitive topic you are better off not responding cause you are commenting from the actual team you are a fan of that he went to...imho your comments will have no merit and will get negative feedback....just human nature

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[Renegade]

Several things:
1. It sucks that James Harrison... Our hero... THE Silverback and the persistent and unrelenting thorn in Flacco's side, has again left the Steelers.
2. It sucks that he chose 2 teams that we generally do not like. (Bengals, and I would still root for them and the Pats over the Ravens any day despite how irritating their fans are.)
3. Harrison, I believed, was signed by the Pats for one of 3 reasons.
A. He is a good player who feels he can be an addition to a championship team.
B. Belichick wants info on a team that scares him.
C. Maybe the NFL is scripted like the WWE (I hope this is not it, but sometimes i wonder) and they are setting up an AFCCG Rematch not just between Pats and Steelers but now the old tag-partner has changed teams.

In any event, at least he didn't go to Baltimore.

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Also, as horrible as it is to see a legend leave and to see the injuries that have taken place this year, no matter how this season ends, the Steelers had a winning record!!!! the Steelers still had an 8-game win streak (which is more wins than some teams have in the last 3 years), (assuming they beat the browns) they would have swept the north, won the north, and won both games against the Ravens.. oh yeah... and 13 wins. This has been a fantastic and fun season. Nobody needs to be worried or scared. We like the Steelers and we like to see them win. We got treated to a lot more than many other fan bases did. All in all, I call this year a success. (of course a Superbowl ring would be nice, but only one team gets those... sigh).

[Butch]

James Harrison is everything the cheatriots are not. He's the guy who tells the commissioner he wouldn't cross the road to piss on him if he was on fire. He was the guy you could count on to tell the league how phony it is. Now he's playing for the team that is the very essence of phony. The team that is in high standings with the go to hell. A team that I truly thought he hated as much as we do. I feel that James has sold out in order to prove a point to the Steelers organization and in many ways I blame them as much as I do James for this decision. They as much as anything forced his hand and now look at the mess that has come to pass. I know that James wanted to send a message, but in doing so you sold out everything you stood for. I love ya' James but a part of your legend has been diminished. 92*

[salamander]

On a side note, how much you want to bet that anyone who commits holding against Deebo will actually get called for it now that he plays for the Patriots? We've spent years watching him get pulled down at times without even a glance from the refs.

[stillers4me]

So James wants another ring, does he.

I guess any old ring will do, no matter what color the stones are. So much for the brotherhood, yada, yada....... :coffee:

[Steeldude]

Okay, so I had to hear about this shitfest while at work today.

Fuck you, James Harrison. Just... FUCK YOU! Any other team. ANY other. But you had to sign with THE enemy. You had to know how much this would hurt your "former" teammates and Steelers Nation. You are dead to me.

I wonder how many "random" drug tests he will have now that he's with the Patriots. My guess... 0.

It's not Harrison's fault. The Steelers didn't want him and treated him like crap with the lies about playing time. The Patriots picked him up. Good for Harrison for finding a team with a good chance at making the SB. Hopefully Harrison won't play well against the Steelers if they meet.

[Steeldude]

Dupree needs to keep his mouth shut.

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What does "He food" mean?

[BlackAndGold]

This thread is hilarious!

Read the comp pick rules. Harrison won’t count.

No team will ever willingly go light at DB - even moderately competent guys like Sensabaugh are roster locks in the NFL.

McCullers is the 6 DLineman in a team that now plays a ton of 3 DL sub packages since Shaziers injury. So not going light there.

With ABs injury can’t go light at WR. Shaziers injury means you need all the ILBs you can get your hands on.

I could go on. Like it or not Harrison was the 5th OLB on the team. A roster luxury that could no longer be afforded.

I’ve been and still am a massive James Harrison fan. But this much hand wringing and pearl clutching over a 39 year old rush linebacker who has been a game day inactive most weeks? Highlarious.


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You get an "A+" comment grade

[ALLD]

Instead of cutting Harrison they could have let him play the second half of the Texans game. The cut was a business move, but not all business is good. I remember when Franco went to the Seahawks. It was bizarre, but Franco was done and crispy by then. He ran out of bounds 2 yards behind the LOS regularly.

Even if Harrison had nothing left I would have enough respect to let him finish the season unless he was a real distraction in the clubhouse.

[vader29]

What does "He food" mean?
He's as good at twitter as he is on the football field?

[Moose]

I still don't think that the Harrison deal is 'that big' of a deal. As I've said earlier, the cheater's aren't going to learn anything about the Steeler's from Harrison that they don't already know, the cheater's aren't going to learn anything new from Harrison....they watch films you know. Another thing, don't you think the F.O. thought about the pros/cons of where Harrison may go if dropped ? Don't you think that some calls and plays may be changed ? Harrison was done with us and us with him....move on. My like of Harrison was gone when he became a bunghole ! IF we play the cheats again, I really don't see Harrison being a factor. We had them beat the last game.....Jesse James TD call was bullshit, but it was our SECONDARY that lost that game for us......can't give Gronk a million yards constantly ! Harrison ? Sorry but he's just an old, football player to me that still wants to play....but isn't worth the money and the cheats just picked him up to freak out the Steeler fans....I don't think our F.O. is that concerned. Have faith ya all ! Go Steeler's. Believe me, we have a hell of alot of weapons on OUR team than the cheats do.....and Harrison isn't going to matter. Just my opinion.

[BlackAndGold]

He's as good at twitter as he is on the football field?

Basically saying Harrison won't be effective.

Have you ever heard of the term "eating", It's when a player is playing great and doing what he wants. term is usually used in the game of basketball.

Really no different then saying "taking someone's lunch"

[GBMelBlount]

Occam's Razor?

[Bluecoat96]

Ouch. Lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171227/4216ad02dfe8a0a1b4b933d88b2f870b.jpg

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[GBMelBlount]

I believe Coates has a shot at another 100 yard season with a strong performance this week.

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[tube517]

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[vader29]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHHg05nwzw

[tube517]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHHg05nwzw

:rofl2:

[Mojouw]

McCullers has played 11 snaps this year. I don't think he has played even one snap since Shazier went down. They could find any DL on the free agent market to produce the output McCullers has during his career.

They could have cut Feiler too.

Hopefully Harrison won't play well vs the Steelers.
It isn’t about the quality of the player, it is about the roster spot and game days. Foster was still in the concussion protocol, so no o lineman was getting cut. Whether it is McCullers or someone else, they are rolling with 6 Dlineman on gamedays no matter who it ends up being.

It stinks, but this was the cut least likely to hurt them other than the game they play against Harrison.

[Hawkman]

I believe Coates has a shot at another 100 yard season with a strong performance this week.

http://cdn.barstoolsports.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/17/Screen-Shot-2015-09-17-at-2.12.54-PM.png

That’s cold.

[GBMelBlount]

That’s cold.

My apologies.

I wish Coates nothing but the best.

[Rotorhead]

It isn’t about the quality of the player, it is about the roster spot and game days. Foster was still in the concussion protocol, so no o lineman was getting cut. Whether it is McCullers or someone else, they are rolling with 6 Dlineman on gamedays no matter who it ends up being.

It stinks, but this was the cut least likely to hurt them other than the game they play against Harrison.

The sad thing is, I think JH would have been better on the DL than McCullers . . .

[st33lersguy]

I cant blame deebo for this, he probably got mad the team dumped him in favor of over a dozen scrubs who never contributed a damn thing to the team, and he still wanted to play. New england showed interest in him and probably promised revenge and that appealed to harrison. This is strictly the fault of tomlin who in a sad attempt to try and imitate bellichick's occasional practice of unloading a veteran out of the blue during a sessom, outthought himself.

And if they didnt want to keep 5 olbs, they should have dumped moats or chickillo

[DesertSteel]

I cant blame deebo for this, he probably got mad the team dumped him in favor of over a dozen scrubs who never contributed a damn thing to the team, and he still wanted to play. New england showed interest in him and probably promised revenge and that appealed to harrison. This is strictly the fault of tomlin who in a sad attempt to try and imitate bellichick's occasional practice of unloading a veteran out of the blue during a sessom, outthought himself.

And if they didnt want to keep 5 olbs, they should have dumped moats or chickillo

I guess we won't know that until we see the outcome, right?

[Shoes]

The fact is Harrison is butt hurt because he lost his job to a rookie. He still thinks Lebeau is here where rookies sat on the bench for two or three years and rotted.

[steelreserve]

It isn’t about the quality of the player, it is about the roster spot and game days. Foster was still in the concussion protocol, so no o lineman was getting cut. Whether it is McCullers or someone else, they are rolling with 6 Dlineman on gamedays no matter who it ends up being.

It stinks, but this was the cut least likely to hurt them other than the game they play against Harrison.


It's easy enough to reverse engineer how we got here and who would have been the more sensible player to cut, if anyone.

Ridley signed to replace Conner, one too many players
Gilbert comes back from suspension, Conner goes to IR
JuJu comes back from suspension, Shazier goes to IR
Spence signed to replace Shazier, JuJu goes to suspended list
Cam Sutton activated from IR
Gilbert suspended

The only transaction that is not the same player leaving and returning, or a 1:1 replacement for someone who went to IR, is Sutton being activated from the injured list. We let it ride for a month because of Gilbert's suspension, and this was what forced us to make a decision.

The net result is that we were carrying an extra CB and dumped Harrison in order to keep doing that. Not the brightest move IMO, since we actually have a glut of players at CB, and the extra CB we kept (Sensabaugh) has shown his coverage skills are the equivalent of playing Russian roulette with two or three bullets at once. Like Antwon Blake or Landry Jones, I would feel much better with him simply off the roster and having no chance to get into the game and do more harm than a replacement-level street free agent. If we suddenly had a rash of injuries at CB, I'm sure he or an equivalent replacement would be available.

The other way of looking at it is, we felt comfortable carrying one less offensive lineman for an entire month so we could have Sutton ... so now suddenly the depth at OL is an issue? I don't entirely buy that. We probably could've gotten Feiler to the practice squad.

Or if we are talking about linebackers exclusively, Moats and Spence have deteriorated to the point where they are easily exploited, and Fort is too green (and may never be good enough, who knows). None of those guys are the future. So I would have been more of a fan of the "Watt to ILB, Harrison rushing" experiment than of sending those guys out on the field ... or of playing a base 3-3-5 nickel with Davis or Hilton in a kind of "wildcard" position, and adjusting from there. I do agree that cutting Dupree or Chickillo is pretty much a non-starter, as those are guys who could potentially have an impact in the future, even though we can all see the likely outcome of the Dupree saga.

[86WARD]

Here I go being positive again...

How do you guys know that Belichick got one over on Tomlin and Colbert. Don’t you think those two know that the Patriots Defense is trash right now and that they would most likely go after him? Sure Harrison may know AVs weakness and maybe he gets a strip sack. Same time, Tomlin and Colbert and the team know Harrison much better and know he can’t cover a lick in a pass situation. They know his weakness as well. Maybe Tomlin got one over Belichick...

[Born2Steel]

The question is, did cutting JH hurt our defense?

[Count Steeler]

The question is, did cutting JH hurt our defense?

What did he have? Maybe 25 snaps all year? Sadly, how bad would it be to cut Dupree? He has to dial it up.

[steelreserve]

The question is, did cutting JH hurt our defense?

That's not it at all. The question is, did cutting him open up our defense to blatant sabotage?

Yeah, maybe he can't "give them the playbook" - but I'm sure there are plenty of little subtext things like "when we see the offense line up in this formation, we hand off coverage on the slot receiver to so-and-so," or "if the middle linebacker shifts here before the snap, we're running a stunt" ... or even "if the defense comes out in such-and-such alignment, it means zone with single coverage on the tight end."

Sure, this is stuff that they're trying to figure out from watching film anyway, but there's nothing like having it handed straight to you for confirmation. I also have my doubts as to whether they'd have gotten the same level of information if it was a scrub like Sensabaugh or a new arrival like Spence.

THAT'S why it was a stupid, stupid move on our part.

And fuck Harrison for doing it. All the "it's a business" or "go where he can get playing time" talk is meaningless - at this point in your career, either of those is insignificant in the overall scheme of things. It's JUST about being a dick.

[Shoes]

The question is, did cutting JH hurt our defense?

Not unless someone gets hurt. I'd give DeMarcus Ware a call and see if he was interested in some backup snaps. He said a few months ago he would have liked to play with the Steelers.

[86WARD]

What did he have? Maybe 25 snaps all year? Sadly, how bad would it be to cut Dupree? He has to dial it up.

40 snaps all year. The Patriots will probably just put him in certain packages and situations and that’s what he’ll play.

This is a team that signed an OLB from the Bills practice squad and he has played 73% of the snaps in New England yet couldn’t make the starting lineup in Buffalo.

[86WARD]

Also let’s not forget that New England signed Michael Floyd in a similar fashion last season. he played week 17 and then was rarely seen in the playoffs... if I recall correctly. This is a typical New England move in that they sign a veteran player let him play in the regular-season meaningless games just to see what he has left in the tank. He’ll probably play 20 to 25 snaps just against the Jets alone. Just so Belichick can get a feel for what he has left.

[Hawkman]

My apologies.

I wish Coates nothing but the best.

You know I was kidding forgot to put :rofl2: beside it.

[DesertSteel]

We're all supposed to move on.... meanwhile these are the quality headlines that we're getting from the PG:

Ben Roethlisberger's wife is worried about James Harrison sharing secrets with the Patriots (http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/12/27/james-harrison-patriots-steelers-release-ben-roethlisberger-ashley-afc-championship/stories/201712270115)about 3 hours ago

[FrancoLambert]

Here's a bit of irony.....or a Festivus Miracle....depending on your point of view.

Just opened my 2018 Steelers calendar, one of my presents, flip the cover to display "January" and who's the photo for January....yep.... James Harrison.

Unbelievable.

I might just flip to February.

[BlackAndGold]

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Looks like Harrison wanted out...

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[Bluecoat96]

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Looks like Harrison wanted out...

946118575160479745I just watched a video of the Pouncey interview. It seemed like Pouncey was doing everything in his power not to say F*ck him. He (Pouncey) was definitely pissed. I'd post the tweet, but I'm on my phone and suck at using Tapatalk. Lol

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[BlackAndGold]

Harrison can go fuck himself if that is true. Wanted out to join the enemy? fuck that guy.

[BlackAndGold]

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[GBMelBlount]

You know I was kidding forgot to put :rofl2: beside it.

LOL.

I had hoped so but wasn't sure.

You know how some people get on here when they are having a bad day...:chuckle:

[86WARD]

Sounding more and more like Harrison was a disgruntled employee that the Steelers let walk. Sounds like he wasn’t worth keeping as a locker room guy but more of a cancer in there. Same situation as Blount possibly? If so, Tomlin should’ve suspended him and made him sit.

[NCSteeler]

If a guy with his talent was a mentor we probably wouldn't have so many lost souls at OLB. From what I've seen of him his personality doesn't lend to mentoring the new kid. It's starting to sound as if James was being a locker room nusance . Aka the Blount move

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[BlackAndGold]

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[43Hitman]

Now its getting good. :pop2:

I knew there was more to this than what it appeared to be. This just isn't the Steelers' modus operandi, they have let their older guys stay on the team their last season even if they weren't starters

anymore. Look atKiesel, Ward, and Troy as examples, and that's just off the top of my head. I am sure there are more, but I feel like my point has been made. Harrison has already said publicly that if

he knew he would have gotten this few snaps then he wouldn't have played this year. So I am sure he was saying much more behind closed doors and from the looks of it he become a problem. We

don't need a malcontent while we're trying to make a Super Bowl run.

[DesertSteel]

The disgruntled employee seemed obvious to me from the start. That's why he made his public quotes to NBC a couple weeks ago.

[AtlantaDan]

Looks like Deebo did not burn his bridges with his teammates - he napalmed them

Maurkice Pouncey says James Harrison 'erased' his Steelers legacy

Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey had the strongest words yet about James Harrison’s decision to sign with the New England Patriots, going so far as to suggest that Harrison requested the release and had ruined his legacy as a member of the Steelers.

“He erased himself,” Pouncey said Wednesday. “He erased his own legacy here. Let’s be serious. ... I would think so, as a fan. [It’s] crazy. It blows my mind.”...

“He wanted that,” Pouncey said. “It wasn’t like the team said ‘We’re going to let go of James Harrison. James Harrison wanted that. ... Yeah, it’s funny to read the stories like, it’s something that he wanted to do, you know what I’m saying? It’s not like they got together and said, ‘Oh, we’re going to go cut James.’ No, that’s not what happened. And he needs to come out and admit that.”...

Pouncey downplayed the idea that Harrison could share important information about the Steelers’ game plan with the Patriots.
“What’s he gonna tell ‘em? The line slides left, the line slides right,” Pouncey said. “That’s common sense.”

Mike Mitchell questioned Harrison's character but tiptoed around the topic.

"I'm not going to assassinate his character, but I wouldn't have done it for $59,000," he said, referring to the amount of money Harrison reportedly signed for.

When a reporter asked if it was like switching from the Cowboys to the Indians in the middle of the fight for the Alamo, Mitchell responded: "Someone has to get scalped."

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/12/27/maurkice-pouncey-steelers-james-harrison-patriots-signing-nfl-afc/stories/201712270150

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More fire from Pouncey

"We're going to speak the truth, that's what it is," Pouncey said. "I want (backup B.J. Finney (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2512172/bj-finney)) to be the best offensive lineman. If he comes and takes my position, it is what it is ... I'm not going to complain about that. I'm very thankful for everything. I'm a man about everything. Any time I messed up, every time I never did anything, I stood up to everybody and told them. It is what it is. I'm not going to run from no one."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21893214/multiple-pittsburgh-steelers-blast-james-harrison-forcing-exit

(http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21893214/multiple-pittsburgh-steelers-blast-james-harrison-forcing-exit)Pouncey might be getting at this with the comment about wanting Finney to be the best he can be

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I am the one who always says it is a business - from a business standpoint this is as self-centered as it gets by Harrison if true

And no other team in the NFL brings the drama like the 2017 Steelers do :chuckle:

[st33lersguy]

If he wanted out, they should have suspended him or deactivated him, not let him bitch his way off to new England

[BlackAndGold]

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[GBMelBlount]

If he wanted out, they should have suspended him or deactivated him, not let him bitch his way off to new England

It seems to me this could get the Steelers even more fired up if they play the Pats.

[43Hitman]

If he wanted out, they should have suspended him or deactivated him, not let him bitch his way off to new England
Then he'll just mouth off to the local media and cause a bigger distraction. And I believe he would still occupy a roster spot. Our goals are bigger than spite.

[teegre]

It seems to me this could get the Steelers even more fired up if they play the Pats.

Bingo!!!

53 pissed Steelers > 1 pissed Harrison

[st33lersguy]

Then he'll just mouth off to the local media and cause a bigger distraction. And I believe he would still occupy a roster spot. Our goals are bigger than spite.

As opposed to rewarding him for being a jackass by giving him what he wants?

[43Hitman]

As opposed to rewarding him for being a jackass by giving him what he wants?

Our goals are bigger than that. I wouldn't let some jackass disrupt my locker room. I wouldn't let my ego get in the way of what is best for the team.

[st33lersguy]

Wasn't everybody saying don't release Bryant and give him what he wants if he says he wants out?

[Bluecoat96]

If he wanted out, they should have suspended him or deactivated him, not let him bitch his way off to new EnglandBut that would mean he'd still be on the team, and a spot wouldn't have been opened up for Gilbert.

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[AtlantaDan]

Wasn't everybody saying don't release Bryant and give him what he wants if he says he wants out?

Bryant can still play and is under contract cheap through next year- Deebo was the bitching without the apparent ability to contribute on the field

Cornerback Artie Burns (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3051921/artie-burns) said Harrison's "energy" showed the team he was mad over playing time, which created "a whole thing with him and the guys upstairs," leading to his release.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21893214/multiple-pittsburgh-steelers-blast-james-harrison-forcing-exit

Notice the players were not told to speak in cliches about how sad it is Deebo is gone - IMO players attributed a lot of Bryant's issues to his agent and girlfriend

[86WARD]

Appears that the weeks Harrison didn’t dress he would just leave the stadium and go home. Not sure if that’s a big deal or not. Could be normal.

[st33lersguy]

Anyway, Harrison did ruin his legacy.

[GBMelBlount]

Bingo!!!

53 pissed Steelers > 1 pissed Harrison

Yes!

[AtlantaDan]

Apparently no mentoring of Chickillo by #92 or any fond memories of #92 by Chickillo

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[tube517]

I think HBO will be begging for the Steelers for Hard Knocks

[DesertSteel]

Appears that the weeks Harrison didn’t dress he would just leave the stadium and go home. Not sure if that’s a big deal or not. Could be normal.Sorry but that ain't normal. That's me-first. If I'd known that I would've turned on him a long time ago.

[salamander]

It almost sounds like he pulled a Lagarette Blount just so he can sign with New England. I really, really hope that's not the case because if it is, I've lost any and all respect I had for Harrison as a player.

[DesertSteel]

Surely if he'd been a great teammate, somebody in that locker room would be coming to his defense... <crickets>

[Shoes]

It almost sounds like he pulled a Lagarette Blount just so he can sign with New England. I really, really hope that's not the case because if it is, I've lost any and all respect I had for Harrison as a player.

Like I said earlier, I lost respect for him yesterday but that doesn't really matter. What does matter is he has probably lost most of the respect of his teammates. Butt hurt because a rookie took his position. He belongs in NE the team he railed against for cheating. Harrison broke his glory bubble. Glad he's gone!

[BlackAndGold]

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[AtlantaDan]

Surely if he'd been a great teammate, somebody in that locker room would be coming to his defense... <crickets>

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The @Cincinnati game where he left early of course was the night Ryan Shazier was injured

Harrison then shows up shirtless for New England pregame the next week as a salute to Shazier (or perhaps to draw attention to himself) - what a two faced fraud

Just another reminder we root for these men because of the uniform they wear and not because we know what sort of character they have

[Psycho Ward 86]

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Wow....those last 2 tweets have me piping mad. Imagine how good Dupree and Watt would be if they learned how to rush the passer from Harrison...I hope both train with JJ Watt over the offseason

[86WARD]

Wow. I lost a lot of respect if that’s all true. Still love what Harrison did for the Steelers on the field, but man...it’s hard to like him as a person...

[AtlantaDan]

Former Steelers linebacker James Harrison said Wednesday he asked the Steelers on three separate occasions to release him, including at the beginning of the season and after the loss to the New England Patriots 10 days ago, when it became apparent he wasn’t going to play as much as he was promised.

Harrison, the Steelers’ all-time sack leader and former NFL defensive player of the year, said he isn’t mad or upset the Steelers released him Saturday, calling it “a business decision.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/12/27/james-harrison-patriots-steelers-release-mike-tomlin-bill-belichick-afc-nfl/stories/201712270172

Sporting of Harrison to say he isn't upset he was released since he admits he asked repeatedly to be released :noidea:

[DesertSteel]

After the way he was unceremoniously traded away to Cincinnati, and then minimized and ignored this year after being promised a meaningful role in the defense, he tried the squeaking wheel gambit to get back on the field.


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At least get your facts right. He wasn’t traded. Are you 18?

[Shoes]

After the way he was unceremoniously traded away to Cincinnati, and then minimized and ignored this year after being promised a meaningful role in the defense, he tried the squeaking wheel gambit to get back on the field. The Steelers didn’t release him for that reason, but because they no longer needed his declining defensive abilities . New England apparently does, and made him believe that they value his defensive skills. It’s just a matter of respect for Harrison, not money. Something that the Steeler organization, for whatever reason, was unwilling to supply.


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Keep on making excuses, his teammates aren't making any for him. Harrison is full of himself, just like the QB of his new team. The photo he sent out to the world from the Pats LR is very fitting.

[st33lersguy]

Wow I guess you never know with people, you like them and root for them and they turn out to be two-faced jackasses who only care about themselves and will say anything to enrich themselves

Wonder if they could have suspended him for the rest of the season for conduct detrimental to the team, that way, he is separated from the team but doesn't get his way and be allowed to run off to new England like the bitch he is allowing a repeat of the sucker punch debacle

Also, I hope the team can strip him of his all time sack title, two face Harrison doesn't deserve it

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Harrison should run for Congress when he retired, he'd be perfect for Washington

[GBMelBlount]

Former Steelers linebacker James Harrison said Wednesday he asked the Steelers on three separate occasions to release him, including at the beginning of the season and after the loss to the New England Patriots 10 days ago, when it became apparent he wasn’t going to play as much as he was promised.

Harrison, the Steelers’ all-time sack leader and former NFL defensive player of the year, said he isn’t mad or upset the Steelers released him Saturday, calling it “a business decision.”

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/12/27/james-harrison-patriots-steelers-release-mike-tomlin-bill-belichick-afc-nfl/stories/201712270172

Sporting of Harrison to say he isn't upset he was released since he admits he asked repeatedly to be released :noidea:


Sounds a bit disengenuous.

I am glad he is gone.

The more I think about this the more I feel as though we just got rid of a cancer.

I also think this could further galvanize and inspire this team to crush it's way through Foxborough to the Superbowl.

[Shoes]

Sounds a bit disengenuous.

I am glad he is gone.

The more I think about this the more I feel as though we just got rid of a cancer.

I also think this could further galvanize and inspire this team to crush it's way through Foxborough to the Superbowl.

Dilly Dilly!!

[Hawkman]

LOL.

I had hoped so but wasn't sure.

You know how some people get on here when they are having a bad day...:chuckle:

Yep

[Edman]

This soap opera of a season keeps getting better and better.

[Shoes]

All of these posts, both from former team mates and fans, berating Harrison for making a clear eyed career decision based on the real world realities of professional sports. The Steelers made their choices based on their evaluation of his value to the defense. In the same manner, Harrison evaluated his career prospects, offers he received, and his professional and personal goals and made the decision to accept the Patriots offer. Nothing personal, just business. When players look out for themselves, they’re branded traitors by fans who view them as franchise slaves too.


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He lost the LR, nuff said.

[AtlantaDan]

All of these posts, both from former team mates and fans, berating Harrison for making a clear eyed career decision based on the real world realities of professional sports. The Steelers made their choices based on their evaluation of his value to the defense. In the same manner, Harrison evaluated his career prospects, offers he received, and his professional and personal goals and made the decision to accept the Patriots offer. Nothing personal, just business. When players look out for themselves, they’re branded traitors by fans who view them as franchise slaves too.


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Please walk me through what part of “a clear eyed business decision” involves leaving the stadium early on the night a teammate is paralyzed, declining to visit that teammate while he is hospitalized, then drawing attention to yourself by appearing shirtless to “honor” that teammate during pregame the following week

The comments that are most dispiriting have nothing to do with leaving and everything to do with being a self centered narcissist who allegedly did little to help younger teammates

At some point me against the world evolves from a motivational tool to toxic self interest above everything else

[ShoeHorn]

Wonder if they could have suspended him for the rest of the season for conduct detrimental to the team, that way, he is separated from the team but doesn't get his way and be allowed to run off to new England like the bitch he is allowing a repeat of the sucker punch debacle


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This is exactly what they should’ve done. It’s been done before. The Bucs did it with Keyshawn Johnson. Just sent his ass home. If the Steelers had done that with Harrison, we get him outta there and none of this going to the pats BS

[st33lersguy]

This is exactly what they should’ve done. It’s been done before. The Bucs did it with Keyshawn Johnson. Just sent his ass home. If the Steelers had done that with Harrison, we get him outta there and none of this going to the pats BS

Should have done the same with sucker punch too

[ShoeHorn]

Should have done the same with sucker punch too

Most definitely. Another crybaby.

[Hawkman]

This is exactly what they should’ve done. It’s been done before. The Bucs did it with Keyshawn Johnson. Just sent his ass home. If the Steelers had done that with Harrison, we get him outta there and none of this going to the pats BS

But I think he’s still taking up a roster spot.

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All of these posts, both from former team mates and fans, berating Harrison for making a clear eyed career decision based on the real world realities of professional sports. The Steelers made their choices based on their evaluation of his value to the defense. In the same manner, Harrison evaluated his career prospects, offers he received, and his professional and personal goals and made the decision to accept the Patriots offer. Nothing personal, just business. When players look out for themselves, they’re branded traitors by fans who view them as franchise slaves too.


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CRASH? CRASH?

[st33lersguy]

But I think he’s still taking up a roster spot.

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CRASH? CRASH?

Could be that giant douchebag leehop71 who called ab's injury karma