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DesertSteel
12-07-2017, 10:41 AM
I'm starting to see something in Ben (other than the interceptions)... the past few games he seems to have rediscovered that moxie at the end of games. I'm thinking that there's nothing more that's going to help our playoff run more than clutch Ben at the end of games. I really hadn't seen it since the loss to Green Bay in the Super Bowl.

Is anyone else getting this same feeling?

Fire Goodell
12-07-2017, 11:07 AM
Yeah he's definitely upped his game, and seems to have that x-factor again. Honestly I wondered if the 2010 loss to the Packers took his soul, glad to see that's not the case.

tube517
12-07-2017, 11:32 AM
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but I thought he didn't have it anymore and should just hang it up???????? :sarcasm:

I've learned w/Ben is don't count the man out.

Just quickly off topic: Did anyone catch Ben holding AB's head and looking into his eyes after the Iloka hit?

That spoke volumes to me.

DesertSteel
12-07-2017, 01:07 PM
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but I thought he didn't have it anymore and should just hang it up???????? :sarcasm:

I've learned w/Ben is don't count the man out.

Just quickly off topic: Did anyone catch Ben holding AB's head and looking into his eyes after the Iloka hit?

That spoke volumes to me.

To be honest, I'm not just comparing him to the early part of this season, but for the past 4-5 years. His clutchness seemed to disappear. It appears to be back.

tube517
12-07-2017, 01:27 PM
To be honest, I'm not just comparing him to the early part of this season, but for the past 4-5 years. His clutchness seemed to disappear. It appears to be back.

Some of those games in the past few years were some that were not winnable. The defenses in those previous years got old and let teams get leads that were too big.

There may have been some that were winnable but I don't have the patience to go back and look through 5 years of games and figure out which ones were.

I get your point but I'm just saying Ben is a warrior and he plays pretty well when he is counted out.

ALLD
12-07-2017, 01:46 PM
He better put the Ravens away by the 3rd quarter and reduce their playoff hopes.

43Hitman
12-07-2017, 01:52 PM
He better put the Ravens away by the 3rd quarter and reduce their playoff hopes.What if he waits till the fourth quarter?

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86WARD
12-07-2017, 02:00 PM
Yes. He’s getting that swagger back...

DesertSteel
12-07-2017, 03:33 PM
Some of those games in the past few years were some that were not winnable. The defenses in those previous years got old and let teams get leads that were too big.

There may have been some that were winnable but I don't have the patience to go back and look through 5 years of games and figure out which ones were.

I get your point but I'm just saying Ben is a warrior and he plays pretty well when he is counted out.
I can only speak for myself. Personally, I had lost that confidence that if the ball got back into #7's hands at the end of the game he'd pull it out. I'm regaining that feeling though. And I don't think it's my imagination. Something is different with Ben the past few weeks.

polamalubeast
12-07-2017, 05:48 PM
Remember the game against the Ravens in Christmas last year with the playoffs on the line....He was amazing in the 4th quarter.

Psycho Ward 86
12-07-2017, 06:20 PM
yup, im glad im not the only one who sensed it either. Ben has probably had his best stretch in his career (intangibles aside) after the Packers Superbowl, but for whatever reason the comeback magic just didnt seem to be there like the younger Ben (who inversely wasnt quite as refined and cerebral as the newer reiterations of Ben).

Now it seems like Ben is past his prime in some capacity, but still pretty good, but with the intangibles coming back to him. I think this version of Ben would have found a way to beat the Ravens in the 2014 playoffs and the Broncos in the 2015 playoffs

DesertSteel
12-07-2017, 11:12 PM
This is the Ben that beats the Patriots when it matters... in January.

Lady Steel
12-07-2017, 11:31 PM
I never gave up on Ben. Like Tube said, he's a warrior.

There is one thing in which I have no doubt... This team is going to go out there and do their damn best for Ryan. It's on like Donkey Kong! :tt02:



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Moose
12-08-2017, 07:41 AM
[QUOTE=Lady Steel;621429]I never gave up on Ben. Like Tube said, he's a warrior.

There is one thing in which I have no doubt... This team is going to go out there and do their damn best for Ryan. It's on like Donkey Kong! :tt02:

I can't agree more with you Lady Steel ! I think the Steeler's play EVERY GAME from here to the end for their Brother Ryan. You know he's weighing heavy on their mind and in their hearts.....as he is in all of us. I think you'll see a difference in their hearts and play throughout. Games on !

Bluecoat96
12-08-2017, 07:52 AM
The one and only thing that I'd like to see from Ben is a stricter off season workout regimen. Maybe he's too dinged up, maybe he is working out. I don't know. I just feel like he uses training camp and the early season to get in shape. I could be talking out of my ass, but I look at guys like Brees and gaydy Brady. Hell...even favre towards the end of his career seemed to really step up the workout routine. Just my two cents.

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steel striker
12-08-2017, 11:29 PM
Still with the game on the line in the fourth quarter there is no other QB I would rather have then Ben.

teegre
12-09-2017, 08:24 AM
Even on that final drive of XLV, I was certain that BB would get it done, just like he had done against Green Bay the season prior.

Then... nothing.

I hadn’t felt this confident in BB since then, and I might be slightly more confident now than I was a decade ago.

Ben. Is. Money.
(And, he has Boswell as the ace up his sleeve.)

DesertSteel
12-09-2017, 01:00 PM
Even on that final drive of XLV, I was certain that BB would get it done, just like he had done against Green Bay the season prior.

Then... nothing.

I hadn’t felt this confident in BB since then, and I might be slightly more confident now than I was a decade ago.

Ben. Is. Money.
(And, he has Boswell as the ace up his sleeve.)
That captures my feeling exactly!

Edman
12-09-2017, 04:31 PM
Something really is different about Ben this year. 2017 definitely isn't Ben's most refined or finest statistical season for sure, that abortion against Jacksonville being a major standout, but he has that 2004-11 swagger back. The unrefined, gutsy, but clutch style.

Another thing I've noticed in previous years where Ben would light it up early on in the season, then taper off. This year he started slow but is heating up in December.

This team in general has a certain feel about them, that they're never out of a game and will find ways to win. The 2014-2016 teams (especially 2014 and 2016) were the epitome of schizophrenic. If things were on, they were unstoppable, but if they were off in any aspect, they would lose. The 2014-16 teams most likely would've lost to the Colts and Packers.

polamalubeast
12-09-2017, 04:33 PM
Something really is different about Ben this year. 2017 definitely isn't Ben's most refined or finest statistical season for sure, that abortion against Jacksonville being a major standout, but he has that 2004-11 swagger back. The unrefined, gutsy, but clutch style.

Another thing I've noticed in previous years where Ben would light it up early on in the season, then taper off. This year he started slow but is heating up in December.

Ben had said early in the season that one of his goals was to be great late in the season

polamalubeast
12-10-2017, 11:03 PM
506 yards and clutch drive at the end!

Also 0 interception on 66 pass attempts!

Lady Steel
12-10-2017, 11:06 PM
I believed, Ben, I believed. Hugs and kisses. :lol:

Craic
12-10-2017, 11:06 PM
Even on that final drive of XLV, I was certain that BB would get it done, just like he had done against Green Bay the season prior.

Then... nothing.

I hadn’t felt this confident in BB since then, and I might be slightly more confident now than I was a decade ago.

Ben. Is. Money.
(And, he has Boswell as the ace up his sleeve.)

That is EXACTLY how I feel right now.

tube517
12-10-2017, 11:08 PM
Ben should file retirement papers tomorrow.

Lady Steel
12-10-2017, 11:10 PM
Ben should file retirement papers tomorrow.

Yeah, really. All the people making believe they've been supportive of Ben all along must have forgotten to take their meds today.

86WARD
12-10-2017, 11:22 PM
Ben was running the show big time tonight. On fire...

Psycho Ward 86
12-10-2017, 11:27 PM
This is arguably the deadliest Ben yet. Combines the proficiency and cerebral play of him in 2014 with the killer instinct of Ben from 2004-2008.

He's definitely nowhere near as good at scrambling as he used to be and some of the physical skills are diminishing but all things considered, if im a DC i would hate to play Ben now more than ever

polamalubeast
12-10-2017, 11:30 PM
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DesertSteel
12-10-2017, 11:30 PM
Wow!

j-d-s
12-10-2017, 11:34 PM
Well, considering he now has the best WR and the best RB and a Top O-Line (plus the Reincarnation of Hines Ward, JuJu)... I'm fine with Ben not scrambling like he used to. We also need to remember that when Ben scrambled more he also was injured frequently (he only had three 16-game seasons in his career, this - hopefully - will be the 4th... well, except if we clinched the No.1 seed so he sits against the Browns).

Craic
12-10-2017, 11:35 PM
Yeah, really. All the people making believe they've been supportive of Ben all along must have forgotten to take their meds today.

Yep, because Ben has been absolutely brilliant all season, right? :cheer2:

It's okay to criticize. It doesn't mean you don't still support your team or the guy. The world isn't black and white. In the first half of the season, Ben pretty much sucked. He was in the bottom third of QBs according to several different metrics. Trying to paint that as anything but what it was . . . bad, is ludicrous. In the second half, he's been stellar. Although someone might be concerned he is doing this at home and not on the road, he's led two fourth quarter comebacks for a win on the road in the last four weeks (maybe three, I don't remember the Lions game). It's a tale of two halfs of the year. Prebye Ben and postbye Ben. Thank God we get potsbye Ben back.

tube517
12-10-2017, 11:35 PM
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Game manager. :coffee: :sarcasm:

Craic
12-10-2017, 11:37 PM
This is arguably the deadliest Ben yet. Combines the proficiency and cerebral play of him in 2014 with the killer instinct of Ben from 2004-2008.

He's definitely nowhere near as good at scrambling as he used to be and some of the physical skills are diminishing but all things considered, if im a DC i would hate to play Ben now more than ever

Yeah, I really don't know what happened. But this is not the same Ben that started the season. This Ben is capable of putting the entire team on his back and carrying them into the SB.

DesertSteel
12-10-2017, 11:38 PM
Yep, because Ben has been absolutely brilliant all season, right? :cheer2:

It's okay to criticize. It doesn't mean you don't still support your team or the guy. The world isn't black and white. In the first half of the season, Ben pretty much sucked. He was in the bottom third of QBs according to several different metrics. Trying to paint that as anything but what it was . . . bad, is ludicrous. In the second half, he's been stellar. Although someone might be concerned he is doing this at home and not on the road, he's led two fourth quarter comebacks for a win on the road in the last four weeks (maybe three, I don't remember the Lions game). It's a tale of two halfs of the year. Prebye Ben and postbye Ben. Thank God we get potsbye Ben back.
I'm glad he came out of retirement for the second half of the year.

Lady Steel
12-10-2017, 11:41 PM
Yep, because Ben has been absolutely brilliant all season, right? :cheer2:

It's okay to criticize. It doesn't mean you don't still support your team or the guy. The world isn't black and white. In the first half of the season, Ben pretty much sucked. He was in the bottom third of QBs according to several different metrics. Trying to paint that as anything but what it was . . . bad, is ludicrous. In the second half, he's been stellar. Although someone might be concerned he is doing this at home and not on the road, he's led two fourth quarter comebacks for a win on the road in the last four weeks (maybe three, I don't remember the Lions game). It's a tale of two halfs of the year. Prebye Ben and postbye Ben. Thank God we get potsbye Ben back.

There's your guilt coming out again. Keep on trying to explain yourself. :toofunny: You've lost all credibility with me. When I see your posts, you "sound" like Charlie Brown's teacher. :blah: :blah: :blah:

I know you don't care. Neither do I, and you know why. I know a priest who will hear your confession if you would like me to make an appointment for you to confess your guilt. If not, bye! :cheer2: :lol:

st33lersguy
12-10-2017, 11:58 PM
Ben's been on fire this past month

dislocatedday
12-11-2017, 12:18 AM
Ben now leads the NFL in passing yards this season. Tonight's game puts him on top.

I don't care about the stats, but for those that wonder how this team is 11-2 just go look at the leaders in each of the NFL yardage categories for passing, rushing, and receiving. The Killer B's are special, and they (along with Boz making game winning FGs) are the primary reason this team is 11-2. It's not that they have played weak teams and QBs........but for all the faults that can be found with this squad, they are mentally tough and they have some truly special players that get the job done in crunch time.

teegre
12-11-2017, 12:20 AM
Ben now leads the NFL in passing yards this season. Tonight's game puts him on top.

I don't care about the stats, but for those that wonder how this team is 11-2 just go look at the leaders in each of the NFL yardage categories for passing, rushing, and receiving. The Killer B's are special, and they (along with Boz making game winning FGs) are the primary reason this team is 11-2. It's not that they have played weak teams and QBs........but for all the faults that can be found with this squad, they are mentally tough and they have some truly special players that get the job done in crunch time.

WINNER!!!

Craic
12-11-2017, 01:58 AM
There's your guilt coming out again. Keep on trying to explain yourself. :toofunny: You've lost all credibility with me. When I see your posts, you "sound" like Charlie Brown's teacher. :blah: :blah: :blah:

I know you don't care. Neither do I, and you know why. I know a priest who will hear your confession if you would like me to make an appointment for you to confess your guilt. If not, bye! :cheer2: :lol:

LMAO.

Okay.

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Ben's been on fire this past month

Absolutely. But, Shhh. You might offend some people by not admitting he's been the bestest ever. :wink02:

polamalubeast
12-11-2017, 06:42 AM
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polamalubeast
12-11-2017, 06:48 AM
Interesting also Roethlisberger has tried at least 40 pass in every game in the last 4 games and steelers have won its 4 games!

Who said Roethlisberger could not win by attempting 40 passes per game (or 66 like yesterday!)

43Hitman
12-11-2017, 07:36 AM
Interesting also Roethlisberger has tried at least 40 pass in every game in the last 4 games and steelers have won its 4 games!

Who said Roethlisberger could not win by attempting 40 passes per game (or 66 like yesterday!)
When he had that bad outing against the Jags, I suggested that the Steelers should only throw the ball about 24-30 times a game. I'm glad I was wrong about that!! Ben is on freaking fire, bring on the Pats!

SteelerFanInStl
12-11-2017, 08:12 AM
Ben needs to have the offense running through him. The Steelers changed last year to run the offense through Bell. When that happens, Ben just doesn't play as well. He's not a game manager. Early this season it was the same thing, offense running through Bell. Now it's back to Ben running the show and he's playing great. It needs to stay this way.

lipps83
12-11-2017, 08:36 AM
I figured it would take Ben about half the season to warm up. He has taken a beating over the years and I think his retirement talk had more to do with the daily aches and pains than it did about his desire to play. He still has the desire, but damn, it might be a drag for him sometimes to just get out of bed. For how big he is, the defenders just hit him that much harder to try to get him down.

He seems to be able to make all his throws now without much issue, where as the first few weeks, well......yikes.

AtlantaDan
12-11-2017, 10:38 AM
Ben now leading the league in passing yards (3744) to join Bell leading the league in rushing yards (1105) and AB leading the league in receiving yards (1509), although Brady should regain the lead tonight

http://www.nfl.com/stats/player?seasonId=2017&seasonType=REG&Submit=Go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvUL28Skt6E

Mojouw
12-11-2017, 10:44 AM
Once the offense rediscovered the middle of the field and stopped insisting that there were only three plays in the game (go route on the sideline, run up the middle, or an out route to AB), "magically" Ben looked far far better.

Either Haley, Ben, or both finally decided to take what defenses were giving until they changed and THEN take their shots. Not the other way around.

Seems to have worked.

tube517
12-26-2017, 11:03 AM
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GBMelBlount
12-26-2017, 11:21 AM
To be honest, I'm not just comparing him to the early part of this season, but for the past 4-5 years. His clutchness seemed to disappear. It appears to be back.

Agreed.

The urgency, intensity and focus is back.

And I think being being beaten by the Patriots, may be a positive as Ben thrives as the underdog.

Ben. Is. Hungry. Again.

Mamaduck43
12-26-2017, 11:24 AM
It has been fun watching Ben "grow up" from a wet behind the ears but very talented QB. to the field manager that he is now.... But I sat yesterday afternoon tearing up a bit, because I see the same fire and drive that Ben showed when be begged Bettis to hang in there one more year for him.... When I was coaching swim teams, I used to sometimes say, "Win or lose, we still stop for Pizza", but I think that this is going to be Ben's last season - - and I so want it to be with another ring.... This scares the hell out of me, because unless we pull a miracle in the draft, this might be my last SB, too....... Damn bucket lists!!!!!

Anyway, I have faith - - I do believe, and I seriously believe that we have found the magic combination that will open the trophy case for
#7 - - - and this one is Ben's....... His fire is back - - - - Let's do this.....

DesertSteel
12-26-2017, 12:07 PM
Agreed.

The urgency, intensity and focus is back.

And I think being being beaten by the Patriots, may be a positive as Ben thrives as the underdog.

Ben. Is. Hungry. Again.
I've had the same feeling about that epic fail last week. It's gonna be fuel to the fire for a championship run. Give him AB back and watch out!