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Renegade
10-08-2017, 02:09 AM
With me starting the thread for the games this season, we are 1-0. Let's see if I can be that good luck charm. I am looking for the first Ben/Bell/Brown/Bryant beatdown that we have all desperately been waiting for. The kind of smashings we have seen over the past 3 seasons set the bar high for this offense. Steelers defense continues to roll. We will call it early from the Steel City, Steelers 35-Jaguars 14 :rockon::cheer2::tt03:Chest Bump:bananalama::buttkick:

polamalubeast
10-08-2017, 10:31 AM
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stillers4me
10-08-2017, 10:32 AM
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86WARD
10-08-2017, 11:03 AM
Harrison hits that list again today...interesting. He practiced all week as well.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 11:13 AM
With me starting the thread for the games this season, we are 1-0. Let's see if I can be that good luck charm. Well, you picked the right name to be that good luck charm, lol. Let's hope you are, and you are correct also in your prediction for today

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 11:33 AM
Shut down the run. Play good on the Offensive Line. If they can do those 2 things, they dominate this game.

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 11:59 AM
With me starting the thread for the games this season, we are 1-0. Let's see if I can be that good luck charm. I am looking for the first Ben/Bell/Brown/Bryant beatdown that we have all desperately been waiting for. The kind of smashings we have seen over the past 3 seasons set the bar high for this offense. Steelers defense continues to roll. We will call it early from the Steel City, Steelers 35-Jaguars 14 :rockon::cheer2::tt03:Chest Bump:bananalama::buttkick:

Would love to see that as well. Hoping we start fast.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:06 PM
Tunch feels like it's going to be a big game, where everything comes together - let's hope he's right!

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D comes up with a 3 and out, so far so good. Now it's time for the O to put some points on the board

AB with a big catch

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:06 PM
I really wish AB wasn't so selfish. He totally sucks!

lipps83
10-08-2017, 12:09 PM
I really wish AB wasn't so selfish. He totally sucks!

They should try to trade him while he still has a little bit of value left....

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:10 PM
They should try to trade him while he still has a little bit of value left....

No doubt. Prolly get a conditional 4th for him.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:11 PM
I guess 3 is better than nothing, but I would have preferred 7

lipps83
10-08-2017, 12:11 PM
No doubt. Prolly get a conditional 4th for him.

Nobody is going to pay that for this diva. 5th rounder tops.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:14 PM
Steelers are offering Jags zero respect in the passing game. I think they just went cover zero again!

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Nobody is going to pay that for this diva. 5th rounder tops.

Good point. Better throw in a washed up Ben R as well then!

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:16 PM
Probably should have kept Hargrave on the field for that 3rd down

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:18 PM
Problem with that was that Lee was NFL open. Haden a step behind and Davis 3 steps away from help over the top.

One of these days this team is going to play someone good enough to hit those windows.

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:20 PM
Aggressive play calling. I like it.

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Problem with that was that Lee was NFL open. Haden a step behind and Davis 3 steps away from help over the top.

One of these days this team is going to play someone good enough to hit those windows.

The play-calling will be called accordingly. If they're playing Brady, don't expect too many cover 0's.

Polamalu Princess
10-08-2017, 12:20 PM
Let's Go!!!

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:22 PM
Come on offense

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:24 PM
Bell gets another good run

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:25 PM
Aggressive play calling. I like it.

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The play-calling will be called accordingly. If they're playing Brady, don't expect too many cover 0's.

Goods point.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 12:28 PM
That 5th rounder just dropped to a 6th with that holding penalty on #84.

Polamalu Princess
10-08-2017, 12:29 PM
No!!!!!!!!!!!!

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:29 PM
They need to keep Bell.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 12:31 PM
Awesome play by Ramsey, dammit.....not Ben's best choice.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:31 PM
SMH

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:31 PM
Ben should've taken that sack

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:32 PM
That was just a poor decision.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:32 PM
stop em again, D

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:34 PM
Come on defense

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:34 PM
Jax has 47 points off takeaways already this year

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:38 PM
Sheesh, they need to stop the run

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:39 PM
We talk about bad coaching alot around here. This is bad coaching.

Take Fournette out? C'mon.

Born2Steel
10-08-2017, 12:41 PM
Penalties and Turnovers!!!!! C'mon!!!!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:41 PM
Yeah. That too!

lipps83
10-08-2017, 12:42 PM
The lead was nice while the Steelers had it.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:42 PM
That one is on Ben. Put his D in a bad spot.

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:42 PM
This has the makings of the Chicago game. Jacksonville's backs are more physical than any LB or DB we have.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:42 PM
we can make it up, no problem. Let's go Steelers!

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:43 PM
You don't want to play this team from behind. Better score here.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:43 PM
Penalties haven't gone away, the offense isn't moving enough, and come on defense, make Bortles try and beat you

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 12:44 PM
Harrison hits that list again today...interesting. He practiced all week as well.

Tomlin's doghouse. Another great coaching decision.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:44 PM
I've grown really tired of the Red Zone play calling. This game should be tied at worst.

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:46 PM
I don't understand the conservative play calling

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:47 PM
Yeah that accomplished something

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I don't understand the conservative play calling

I do, the deep ball at the beginning of the game worked so well Haley decided to stop using it

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:47 PM
Great punt. Playing the field position game.

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 12:48 PM
You mean all that talk about this offense averaging 30 per game was hype?

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:48 PM
They're giving a lot of respect to Jags pass D

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 12:49 PM
I don't understand the conservative play calling

That's the high powered offense at work.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:49 PM
WTF is up with all the Zone D?

Polamalu Princess
10-08-2017, 12:52 PM
Nice!

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:52 PM
This is gonna be a long day

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:53 PM
Hell of a tackle TJ!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:53 PM
One good play by the rookie. And then one bad one.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:55 PM
God Dammit!! Getting out called again!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 12:55 PM
WTF is Burns so excited for?

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 12:56 PM
Most talented team in the league. Worst play calling in the league!

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 12:56 PM
Well this is going just swimmingly

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 12:56 PM
Youve gotta wonder if the phrase "missed tackle" is in Mike Tomlins' vocabulary? This has been a problem for Many years and hasnt gotten any better

lipps83
10-08-2017, 12:56 PM
You mean all that talk about this offense averaging 30 per game was hype?

For about 3 years now.

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:56 PM
Dumb challenge

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:57 PM
You know what would help? Not letting them catch the ball in the first place

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 12:57 PM
WTF is Burns so excited for?

Acting like the average New Age NFL Player. Look at me. Clueless.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 12:58 PM
Why is Burns dancing? You let the WR catch the ball.

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Tomlin's players have always been more interested in dancing than playing football.

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 12:58 PM
He obviously thought he tackled him short. Even if it is short Jags go for it.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 12:59 PM
Now they are letting shitty ass Bortles move the ball on them, SMFH

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 12:59 PM
Such a "meh" team.

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 12:59 PM
Smelling lose to "inferior" team.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:00 PM
Playing zone and getting picked apart

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 01:00 PM
Im really tired of hearing about how 'Great' of a coach Tomlin is

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 01:00 PM
Essentially, Burns celebrated for allowing a catch that resulted in a first down.

Polamalu Princess
10-08-2017, 01:00 PM
Sacked!

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 01:00 PM
Oh and does anyone think our pass defense is better?

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 01:01 PM
More poor tackling. Good job, Burns

RunNGun
10-08-2017, 01:01 PM
Davis making a play in the backfield!!

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:03 PM
Im really tired of hearing about how 'Great' of a coach Tomlin is

His coaching has been average this year but the rest of the coaches aren't good either.

Keith Butler/Porter need to go. (the defensive rankings are overrated, they have played no one worth a shit)

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Oh and does anyone think our pass defense is better?

Is the pass rush really that better?

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:03 PM
Yeah guys are so adorably grumpy.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:05 PM
Essentially, Burns celebrated for allowing a catch that resulted in a first down.He isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Is he?

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:07 PM
Good god, this situation scares me

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:07 PM
2 bell rushes for 3 yards, incomplete pass 3rd down. calling it now.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:08 PM
So much for this offense putting it all together this week

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:08 PM
Playcalling=shit

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:09 PM
It's either a short pass that goes nowhere or a deep ball incomplete.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 01:09 PM
How will this team look coming out of the lockerroom? Motivated?

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:09 PM
So much for this offense putting it all together this week

They will get it together by week 10.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:09 PM
Playcalling=shitGetting completely out called.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:09 PM
Whoa, a screen pass that worked.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:09 PM
Playcalling=shit

Yep agreed

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:10 PM
wr screen for 6 yards.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:10 PM
The play calling is the main reason this team won't win a SB

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:11 PM
wr screen for 6 yards.

damn, my call was 4 yards short. anyone other than brown it would have just been 6.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:11 PM
Why in the hell are they "picking" on one of the best corners in the NFL?

Ben is having one of those games where he forgot to engage his brain.

pepsyman1
10-08-2017, 01:11 PM
THAT would be how you cover someone. Can someone on the Steelers Defense take notes?

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:11 PM
The play calling is the main reason this team won't win a SB

Ben also.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 01:11 PM
Are these the Pittsburgh Pirates or Steelers?

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 01:11 PM
Time to draft a new QB?

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:12 PM
Why in the hell are they "picking" on one of the best corners in the NFL?

Ben is having one of those games where he forgot to engage his brain.

Because, well, Ben doesn't pay much attention. He just does his thing.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:12 PM
The play calling is the main reason this team won't win a SB

It isn't so much the play calling as the starting QB deciding to go after one of the best CBs in the NFL as he covers his own team's 3rd wideout.

That is just kinda dumb on Ben's part.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 01:12 PM
the crowd sounds out of it, except maybe to boo a little bit

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:13 PM
Now shitty ass Bortles is going to pick apart Butler's soft as shit zone defense

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:13 PM
Time to draft a new QB?

Honestly, I think so. Ben was never much of a cerebral QB, and now his skills are diminishing very rapidly. You can pretty much watch his skill digress during a game.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:13 PM
Because, well, Ben doesn't pay much attention. He just does his thing.

Yeah. That is also part of my "Ben is actually super dumb" theory.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:13 PM
It isn't so much the play calling as the starting QB deciding to go after one of the best CBs in the NFL as he covers his own team's 3rd wideout.

That is just kinda dumb on Ben's part.

It's both, neither Haley nor Ben have been doing well all year

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 01:13 PM
Will we see the no-huddle hurry up offense? No.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:13 PM
Time to draft a new QB?

Hoping Ben hangs them up after the season, rather not see him be the player he is today, which is average.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:14 PM
Yeah. That is also part of my "Ben is actually super dumb" theory.Oh no, you can't say that! Traitor! LOL

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 01:14 PM
Time to draft a new QB?

He has lost quite a bit of arm strength and accuracy but still has some Ben-like qualities

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:14 PM
Time to draft a new QB?

Yep, 2017 Ben isn't winning a Super Bowl

pepsyman1
10-08-2017, 01:15 PM
I'm really disappointed with Keith Butler at this point. He's getting young players on the field but I don't see much adjustments to the scheme. We still play really soft coverage, we're are always weak in the middle of the secondary and our tackling hasn't improved. As fast as some of our new young players are, they always seem slow to respond.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:15 PM
Well at least this team is a 2nd half team.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:15 PM
Wat. What?

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:16 PM
Yeah. That is also part of my "Ben is actually super dumb" theory.

Me too. His physical skill and gunslinger big play abilities did an excellent job covering up the fact that he is just not that bright. This isn't something that just dawned on me, I noticed by the way he played after Whisenhunt left. Whisenhunt was his best coordinator IMO.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:16 PM
I'm really disappointed with Keith Butler at this point. He's getting young players on the field but I don't see much adjustments to the scheme. We still play really soft coverage, we're are always weak in the middle of the secondary and our tackling hasn't improved. As fast as some of our new young players are, they always seem slow to respond.The OC and the DC love beating their heads against the wall!

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 01:16 PM
Shazier!!!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:16 PM
Shazier is just an unstoppable force.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 01:16 PM
nice takeaway by shazier

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:18 PM
Makes up for the 'interception' Ben threw last week.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:18 PM
Me too. His physical skill and gunslinger big play abilities did an excellent job covering up the fact that he is just not that bright. This isn't something that just dawned on me, I noticed by the way he played after Whisenhunt left. Whisenhunt was his best coordinator IMO.

I would agree with that. I would argue that Haley is the best OC that Ben has had. But that is a longer and not clear argument with no real ways to be certain.

But any idea that Ben is really a smart dude has gotta be a pretty hard thing to support! He is good at the Run/Pass Option calls, but he seems to lose track of the other team's playmakers on defense at key times.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 01:18 PM
The OC and DC are both responsibilities of Mike Tomlin, if the Offense and defense are both lacking that becomes more of a team issue

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:18 PM
Ryan Shazier is a STUD!

pepsyman1
10-08-2017, 01:19 PM
The play calling is the main reason this team won't win a SB

It is definitely a mess. They have no flow or rhythm and have become agonizingly predictable.

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 01:19 PM
That's the same play as the AB call.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:20 PM
Eli Rogers may never play again!

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That's the same play as the AB call.

Good eye.

pepsyman1
10-08-2017, 01:20 PM
Best throw I've seen Ben have in awhile.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:21 PM
That was ridiculous and I guess a reason why Ben doesn't give a f@#$ where Ramsay plays.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 01:21 PM
it would be nice to get a TD just before the half ends, we'll see...

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 01:23 PM
Offensive ineptitude index now reads: Ben - 60% Haley - 40% with Ben's arrow pointing up.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:23 PM
Dumb play for 1 yard. WTF.....better off throwing it away and saving 3 secs.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 01:24 PM
Killer offense.

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 01:27 PM
Dumb play for 1 yard. WTF.....better off throwing it away and saving 3 secs.

That's what a "smart" QB would do.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 01:27 PM
I have said it many times. The Steelers struggle if they cannot get rare splash plays. They simply cannot impose their will on an opposing team.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:30 PM
That's what a "smart" QB would do.

I don't get it. Bell was in the middle of the field, covered with 11 secs left luckily able to make it OOB. Not sure why Ben threw that.

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I have said it many times. The Steelers struggle if they cannot get rare splash plays. They simply cannot impose their will on an opposing team.

The offense is built around it. Not efficiency, but big play oriented. This is why they bragged about 40 yard bomb incompletions on 3rd and 1 being okay a couple years back even though they were not that good at it. So many drives killed because of offensive arrogance.

AtlantaDan
10-08-2017, 01:31 PM
Offensive ineptitude index now reads: Ben - 60% Haley - 40% with Ben's arrow pointing up.

Yep - the stat that Ben is 4 out of 20 this year on throws over 20 yards in the air confirms his problems with the deep ball

By week 5 Ben's problems are more than knocking off the rust be not playing preseason

Lucky to be down only 7-6

Steelers get the ball to open second half - will see if the chuck it deep play is done for the day

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:33 PM
All good offenses in the NFL are built off the big play. Seriously. Watch other teams.

Pats are currently the best stat wise. They are built around big plays to Cooks and Gronk.

Eagles are blowing out the Cards and that is all through big plays.

This whole grind it out 3-4 yards at a time thing isn't used by anybody except "bad" teams (basically teams that do NOT have a decent QB). Jets, Jags, Browns, etc..etc.

I get that the offense is super frustrating, but the other option is the Ravens I guess?

Lady Steel
10-08-2017, 01:34 PM
Alright, Steelers... LET'S GO! :cheer2: :tt02:

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:35 PM
I got killed on here last week for talking about Ben's Mediocrity. Now everyone is on the same shit. WTF? LOL

AtlantaDan
10-08-2017, 01:37 PM
All good offenses in the NFL are built off the big play. Seriously. Watch other teams.

Pats are currently the best stat wise. They are built around big plays to Cooks and Gronk.

Eagles are blowing out the Cards and that is all through big plays.

This whole grind it out 3-4 yards at a time thing isn't used by anybody except "bad" teams (basically teams that do NOT have a decent QB). Jets, Jags, Browns, etc..etc.

I get that the offense is super frustrating, but the other option is the Ravens I guess?

The option is the QB getting it together mentally and having the physical ability to complete a long pass

Maybe dump the radio show to say my commitment is only to what helps us win

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 01:39 PM
Let's start playing like we mean it and get those 7 points

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:39 PM
The option is the QB getting it together mentally and having the physical ability to complete a long pass

Maybe dump the radio show to say my commitment is only to what helps us win

Sure. The offense can be executed better. That is without question. But the "Style" of offense is the correct one.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:41 PM
I got killed on here last week for talking about Ben's Mediocrity. Now everyone is on the same shit. WTF? LOL

Some are slower to accept reality.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:44 PM
Ok. New theory - at least for this week.

Steelers only had like 20-24 offensive plays in the first half. Likley 10-15 of those were "scripted". This is why I hate scripts. They force the play calling down a certain path and it can seem herky-jerky and out of step with game situation.

Now it is the second half and the play-calls are coming from the game situation, not a script. Only advantage is that, in theory at least, the script allowed Haley to probe for formation and scheme tendencies that he can now exploit.

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 01:46 PM
Apparently the Jags corners are all named Ramsey because that's all Ben throws at.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:47 PM
Apparently the Jags corners are all named Ramsey because that's all Ben throws at.

lol seems it, right?

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 01:48 PM
I never understood a grown man taking a hyphenated name? You're not a woman pick one.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:48 PM
They are now picking on Ramsey I think.

steelreserve
10-08-2017, 01:49 PM
All good offenses in the NFL are built off the big play. Seriously. Watch other teams.

Pats are currently the best stat wise. They are built around big plays to Cooks and Gronk.

Eagles are blowing out the Cards and that is all through big plays.

This whole grind it out 3-4 yards at a time thing isn't used by anybody except "bad" teams (basically teams that do NOT have a decent QB). Jets, Jags, Browns, etc..etc.

I get that the offense is super frustrating, but the other option is the Ravens I guess?

The Patriots' offense is built around high-percentage throws to some guy left wide open 8 or 12 yards downfield, then someone misses a tackle and it turns into a 30-yard gain. We used to do a version of that, with our "sweet spot" more like 15-20 yards and less of the super-cheap underneath bullshit.

Now, the Steelers offense is built around "big plays" meaning chuck it up for grabs to a guy 40 yards down the field in double coverage (bonus points if it's triple) and hope for a great catch, assuming the ball isn't 10 yards overthrown or there was some miscommunication, which takes 75% of the attempts off the table outright.

That's not an offense designed around the big play, that's an offense designed around hoping for a lucky break. Full-on Moonball Joe horsecrap. It's not going to work. I have no idea how that idea got into our heads this year, but as long as we keep it up, we're going to be wondering if we can grind out 20 points, not score 40.

The shame of it all is that it's overshadowing a defense that really IS improving. And all while having a harder time of it because the offense is going three-and-out so much.

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All good offenses in the NFL are built off the big play. Seriously. Watch other teams.

Pats are currently the best stat wise. They are built around big plays to Cooks and Gronk.

Eagles are blowing out the Cards and that is all through big plays.

This whole grind it out 3-4 yards at a time thing isn't used by anybody except "bad" teams (basically teams that do NOT have a decent QB). Jets, Jags, Browns, etc..etc.

I get that the offense is super frustrating, but the other option is the Ravens I guess?

The Patriots' offense is built around high-percentage throws to some guy left wide open 8 or 12 yards downfield, then someone misses a tackle and it turns into a 30-yard gain. We used to do a version of that, with our "sweet spot" more like 15-20 yards and less of the super-cheap underneath bullshit.

Now, the Steelers offense is built around "big plays" meaning chuck it up for grabs to a guy 40 yards down the field in double coverage (bonus points if it's triple) and hope for a great catch, assuming the ball isn't 10 yards overthrown or there was some miscommunication, which takes 75% of the attempts off the table outright.

That's not an offense designed around the big play, that's an offense designed around hoping for a lucky break. Full-on Moonball Joe horsecrap. It's not going to work. I have no idea how that idea got into our heads this year, but as long as we keep it up, we're going to be wondering if we can grind out 20 points, not score 40.

The shame of it all is that it's overshadowing a defense that really IS improving. And all while having a harder time of it because the offense is going three-and-out so much.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:49 PM
Stupid fucking Haley! Run the ball!

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 01:50 PM
Jesus what a stupid play by Ben. Locked in on AB and just didn't look anywhere else.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:50 PM
Red zone offense is still shit

lipps83
10-08-2017, 01:50 PM
I think Ben should have watched AB longer. Should have put his eyes on him even before the ball was snapped.

Probably still staring at him on the sidelines.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 01:51 PM
BR has to force it Brown. If he doesn't Brown will throw a tantrum

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:52 PM
BR has to force it Brown. If he doesn't Brown will throw a tantrumI doubt Ben cares if AB throws a shit fit.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:52 PM
The Patriots' offense is built around high-percentage throws to some guy left wide open 8 or 12 yards downfield, then someone misses a tackle and it turns into a 30-yard gain. We used to do a version of that, with our "sweet spot" more like 15-20 yards and less of the super-cheap underneath bullshit.

Now, the Steelers offense is built around "big plays" meaning chuck it up for grabs to a guy 40 yards down the field in double coverage (bonus points if it's triple) and hope for a great catch, assuming the ball isn't 10 yards overthrown or there was some miscommunication, which takes 75% of the attempts off the table outright.

That's not an offense designed around the big play, that's an offense designed around hoping for a lucky break. Full-on Moonball Joe horsecrap. It's not going to work. I have no idea how that idea got into our heads this year, but as long as we keep it up, we're going to be wondering if we can grind out 20 points, not score 40.

The shame of it all is that it's overshadowing a defense that really IS improving. And all while having a harder time of it because the offense is going three-and-out so much.

I couldn't disagree with that more. Cooks, Hogan, and Gronk running deep are what opens up that underneath stuff. Haley is essentially doing the same thing. Both offense stress the defense horizontally and vertically at the same time.

Difference is that Ben is insistent that he can complete any deep pass (20+ yards) against anything less than true double coverage. I think he forces it more than Marsha Brady does.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 01:53 PM
Playing one of the worst run defenses and one of the best pass defenses inside the 5, and they throw it each time. Why does Haley insist on proving what a damn moron he is

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:53 PM
Why don't we ever try running on the goal line?

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:54 PM
Donger for Watt!

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 01:54 PM
I couldn't disagree with that more. Cooks, Hogan, and Gronk running deep are what opens up that underneath stuff. Haley is essentially doing the same thing. Both offense stress the defense horizontally and vertically at the same time.

Difference is that Ben is insistent that he can complete any deep pass (20+ yards) against anything less than true double coverage. I think he forces it more than Marsha Brady does.

But for the Patrotis they aren't prayers.

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 01:55 PM
watt seems to be having a pretty good game

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 01:56 PM
These individual defensive guys like Shazier and Watt are an absolute god-send and the only reason this team will be competitive down the stretch

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 01:58 PM
Can we stop questioning Harrison's not playing?? Open your eyes People!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 01:59 PM
But for the Patrotis they aren't prayers.

Sure. But the style of offense is basically very similar.

The Steelers offensive "system" is pretty much totally in line with what strong offensive teams in the NFL are currently doing. The execution has simply been off through the opening 1/4 of the season.

Someone smarter than me will have to figure that one out!

- - - Updated - - -

Welp it is one of those Roethlisberger games

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 02:00 PM
holy crap i dont even believe it

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:00 PM
Jesus Fucking Christ

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 02:00 PM
Don't worry...... Ben's better at home.

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 02:00 PM
LOL locked onto #84 as usual.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
This team is a legit championship contender.

Dissolv
10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi1LMIUOOAI

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
He was throwing that to Brown no matter what

ALLD
10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
Ben is either forcing everything possible to #84 or he is shot.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:01 PM
LOL locked onto #84 as usual.Like he was the only guy out there.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:02 PM
So who would be the Steelers pick for QB in the first round of next years draft? Sorry too soon?

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:02 PM
Ben says "I need to play better." I honestly don't think he can.

Renegade
10-08-2017, 02:03 PM
Ben does not look like himself

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:03 PM
This team is a legit championship contender.

According to the rah-rah fans.

Hmmm...let me think of some of the things they say. Got one; SBs aren't won in October.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 02:03 PM
So who would be the Steelers pick for QB in the first round of next years draft? Sorry too soon?

No QB will be worth taking later in the draft.

AtlantaDan
10-08-2017, 02:03 PM
Don't worry...... Ben's better at home.

He is just cashing checks - it is a job for which he appears to have lost his focus

823939307400466438

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:03 PM
This is what happens when you have a QB that has lost multiple steps and an offensive coordinator who is only interested in proving how much of an empty-headed dumbf%%% caveman he is. You have one of the best pass defenses and one of the worst run defenses yet Todd the Caveman insists on throwing the ball. I swear, Corey and Trevor from the Trailer Park Boys could make better play calls than Haley

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:04 PM
Yeah, Ben isn't this Offenses "weak link". Haha

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:05 PM
C'mon guys be positive. Lol Go ahead and ignore all of this crap QB play. Lol

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:05 PM
Ben does not look like himself

Ben's already mentally retired

Kittyfish
10-08-2017, 02:05 PM
the crowd is not happy. neither am i

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:05 PM
This is pretty ugly

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:05 PM
Still a long way to go in the game, but they really need to step up their game. Put all of the effort they do in dancing and they could be unstoppable.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:06 PM
Ben will throw a 3rd before this game is over.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 02:07 PM
That is just totally unbelievable.

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 02:07 PM
He is just cashing checks - it is a job for which he appears to have lost his focus

823939307400466438

I was getting ready to type that exact quote....no kidding.

I'd say great minds think alike but I don't want to diss you.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:07 PM
Landry Jones NOW

lipps83
10-08-2017, 02:07 PM
Anyone ever hear what sounds like crickets during this broadcast? Seems every 5 minutes or so. I am getting it on different streams.

Lady Steel
10-08-2017, 02:08 PM
DAMMIT!

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:08 PM
Put in Dobbs

SteeleReign
10-08-2017, 02:08 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...Ive officially gone mad....

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Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:08 PM
Now BR is depending on the shovel pass.

Lady Steel
10-08-2017, 02:08 PM
Get your head out of your ass, Ben!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
All these pick 6's are just killing my fantasy team! No rushing for Fournette!

Damn Ben!

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
Ben just wants his fucking paycheck

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
Put in Dobbs

Why? Jones is better than Dobbs. Also, Dobbs is inactive.

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
LOL locked onto #84 as usual.

As I was saying.

Shoes
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
Might as well put Jones in. Ben is shit faced.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
Put in Jones.

crcsnail
10-08-2017, 02:09 PM
A team game . But on offence we only have Ben and AB ?

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:10 PM
Ben's already quit.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:10 PM
Now Ben sucks at home. Oh no!

fansince'76
10-08-2017, 02:10 PM
Still think AB's outburst was out of line? I really do think Ben just wants to be elsewhere at this point.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:10 PM
Need to make a play on defense. Too bad Harrison is inactive. The best pass rusher, run defender and intimidator on the team. Another stellar decision by the inafllible Tomlin.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:11 PM
Can Ben throw 4?

ALLD
10-08-2017, 02:11 PM
Two pick 6s in one half. Something is up.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:12 PM
A hurry up no-huddle offense would help, but it will be more predictable run and pass plays

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:12 PM
Need to make a play on defense. Too bad Harrison is inactive. The best pass rusher, run defender and intimidator on the team. Another stellar decision by the inafllible Tomlin.Yeah, because Harrison is why they're losing. C'mon guy wake up!

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 02:12 PM
Any kind of points on this drive and things are fine.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:12 PM
Need to make a play on defense. Too bad Harrison is inactive. The best pass rusher, run defender and intimidator on the team. Another stellar decision by the inafllible Tomlin.Worst comment of the Day!

ALLD
10-08-2017, 02:14 PM
Then you had #26 not show up for camp and need 4 games to get going. Plus all of the political nonsense. If I was Ben I would rather take the kids to Kennywood at this point.

AtlantaDan
10-08-2017, 02:14 PM
I was getting ready to type that exact quote....no kidding.

I'd say great minds think alike but I don't want to diss you.

LOL :drink:

steelreserve
10-08-2017, 02:14 PM
go home ben

you are drunk

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:14 PM
If the red zone O was worth a fuck they're still winning this game.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 02:15 PM
That look told it all. Hunter did not run the route correctly.

Hunter doing Hunter things

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:15 PM
How does a 6'5" QB get so many batted balls?

ALLD
10-08-2017, 02:16 PM
It all started with that throw away game in Chicago. A disciplined team would have won it. Now you have the Steelers not prepared again for a team they should beat easily. I would start looking at the coaches and hold them accountable.

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:16 PM
Ben's been playing poorly all year, but this quarter he just jumped the shark

ALLD
10-08-2017, 02:17 PM
Sack, game over.

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Is Ben even a top 10 QB anymore?

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:18 PM
2017 Ben is not 2004-2016 Ben, 2017 Ben is every QB that put on a Steeler uniform from 1984-2003

ALLD
10-08-2017, 02:18 PM
I think the beating he took early in his career finally caught up. It's like watching a boxer age in the ring. He's done.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:19 PM
Now it'll be the Fournette show.

lipps83
10-08-2017, 02:19 PM
Think I am going to go and file my taxes before the efile date is expired. Might have the game on in the background.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:21 PM
This is the pathetic ending i really was hoping the Steelers would avoid to Bens career, Ben has given this team and the city so many great years

st33lersguy
10-08-2017, 02:21 PM
They need to draft a QB early. While they are at it, they should also draft a TE early. Vance McDonald has done nothing so far

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 02:22 PM
]It all started with that throw away game in Chicago.[/B] A disciplined team would have won it. Now you have the Steelers not prepared again for a team they should beat easily. I would start looking at the coaches and hold them accountable.

Yep.

We should have recognized it because we've seen it regularly. Once again I have to reconcile myself to the fact that we're a contender for a championship but not a favorite.
Hey, things could be worse. We could support the Browns or Bengals. But we don't and that's why it's so frustrating with the talent we have.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:25 PM
I hate all the showboat bullshit Tomlin allows

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:26 PM
Yeah, because Harrison is why they're losing. C'mon guy wake up!

Did I say or even imply such a thing. No. Wake up.

Two plays toward Harrison's side now just now. No pressure or much of a threat from the pass rush. But hey, no reason to have the best pass rush in street clothes.

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 02:26 PM
Can Mike Sullivan coach this team?

EzraTank
10-08-2017, 02:26 PM
Why does our defense celebrate tackling a guy after he gains 9 yards?

Sorry we are not a Superbowl team this year.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:27 PM
They've quit

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:27 PM
No one sealing the edge. But that's ok. Right? Right?

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:27 PM
No SB this year.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:28 PM
Harrison isn't why they're losing.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:28 PM
Why does our defense celebrate tackling a guy after he gains 9 yards?

Sorry we are not a Superbowl team this year.

Because it is what Tomlin loves

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:29 PM
Why does our defense celebrate tackling a guy after he gains 9 yards?

Sorry we are not a Superbowl team this year.

Poor leadership, aka Coaching

BlackAndGold
10-08-2017, 02:29 PM
Harrison isn't why they're losing.

Ben is the reason why they're losing.

FrancoLambert
10-08-2017, 02:29 PM
Hello 3-2.....hello mediocrity.....join the club.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:30 PM
These undersized LB's have been exposed.

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:31 PM
Harrison isn't why they're losing.

You are correct. Harrison has nothing to do with the Steelers losing the game. Did someone say Harrison was the reason why? Bradshaw isn't the reason they are losing either.

Born2Steel
10-08-2017, 02:31 PM
3INTs, letting them run the clock, not able to get our RBs clean, that's the story here. Not some season ending, no SB team, stupid whiney fan crap.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:32 PM
Conference loss at home WTF? On the road at KC next week.

AtlantaDan
10-08-2017, 02:32 PM
Defense makes its contribution with letting Jax run clock on this drive

Cherry on top of the sundae today would be a major injury

Steeldude
10-08-2017, 02:32 PM
Hello 3-2.....hello mediocrity.....join the club.

But that is ok. I was told SBs aren't won in September, October, November or December. So losing regular season games is ok.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 02:33 PM
This one is totally on Ben R. He should have led his team to at least 17 point and he has single handedly given the opposing team 14 points.

Not real complicated. Throw two TDs for the other team and none for your own. That gets you beat every time.

The lack of contain on the backside of run plays is super concerning, but not the reason for the possible Loss today.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:33 PM
3INTs, letting them run the clock, not able to get our RBs clean, that's the story here. Not some season ending, no SB team, stupid whiney fan crap.Yeah, Because this looks like a true SB contender. 23-9 at home? Sure they're SB bound. Let's all stay optimistic. Or should I say delusional.

BurghBoy412
10-08-2017, 02:35 PM
But that is ok. I was told SBs aren't won in September, October, November or December. So losing regular season games is ok.Playoff spots are won or lost during the regular season. It's ok this team will win 4 on the road and hoist a Lombardi though.

Mojouw
10-08-2017, 02:35 PM
Yeah, Because this looks like a true SB contender. 23-9 at home? Sure they're SB bound. Let's all stay optimistic. Or should I say delusional.

Defense looks fine. I little worn out and has some over-pursuit issues.

But the game winning points are on Ben R.

Neversatisfied
10-08-2017, 02:37 PM
Mike Tomlin sucks, i will say this in advance of the failed coaches challenge