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RunNGun
09-24-2017, 03:50 PM
We got outplayed and outcoached today by a team we should have beat. I won't dig into that because we are all too familiar with these occurences.

However, I will stay optimistic. We got out of the game with no serious injuries and the Ravens lost as well. We're now 2-1, just like the Pats and Ravens. We had everything to gain in this one, but nothing to really lose. We'll likely be getting Watt and Tuitt back next week to shore up the defense. The offense gets another week to gel. No need for panic and calling for coaches heads after one loss.

86WARD
09-24-2017, 03:51 PM
Let’s be honest though...has the offense looked good at all this season???

Shoes
09-24-2017, 03:57 PM
The sky isn't falling but its a huge missed opportunity to move ahead in the divison and stay there. I'd guess the Steelers will probably be at the mercy of other teams winning and losing to get into the playoffs again this year.

43Hitman
09-24-2017, 03:58 PM
Let’s be honest though...has the offense looked good at all this season???
Consistently? Nope. There have been stretches where they look smooth and efficient, then the very next drive they look like a completely different team. Honestly Ben needs to dial it back a little, you

don't have to take a shot every freaking time you get man coverage. I'm not sure who said it but, he very well may be what's holding this offense back.

fansince'76
09-24-2017, 03:59 PM
The only "good" thing about it is it's a non-conference loss.

lipps83
09-24-2017, 03:59 PM
The sky was only the limit on paper. In reality, it is and has been really, really foggy.

BurghBoy412
09-24-2017, 04:00 PM
Let’s be honest though...has the offense looked good at all this season???No they haven't. Besides AB none of them have played very well. I think it should be noted that even though he hasn't turned the ball over much, Ben has been woefully inaccurate.

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 04:01 PM
Let’s be honest though...has the offense looked good at all this season???

I think the defense has done some good things. Today wasn't the best day for them, but the offense didn't help our the defense in the slightest.

Shoes
09-24-2017, 04:01 PM
The only "good" thing about it is it's a non-conference loss.


Good point, but so was the Rats.

BurghBoy412
09-24-2017, 04:01 PM
The only "good" thing about it is it's a non-conference loss.Gamblers are always aware of the non conference road game.

43Hitman
09-24-2017, 04:02 PM
Good point, but so was the Rats.
Jax is AFC bro

tube517
09-24-2017, 04:02 PM
The only "good" thing about it is it's a non-conference loss.

This.

Ben said the loss is on him. His best play? Running for the first down near the goal line instead of forcing the ball. He needs to keep the chains moving sometimes. Dial down the big play mentality once in a while and focus on 1st downs

fansince'76
09-24-2017, 04:03 PM
Good point, but so was the Rats.

Nope, the Jags play in the AFC South.

Shoes
09-24-2017, 04:03 PM
Nope, the Jags play in the AFC South.

My bad, I feel better about the loss now. :lol:

fansince'76
09-24-2017, 04:04 PM
My bad, I feel better about the loss now. :lol:

:chuckle:

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 04:04 PM
The sky isn't falling but its a huge missed opportunity to move ahead in the divison and stay there. I'd guess the Steelers will probably be at the mercy of other teams winning and losing to get into the playoffs again this year.

I don't know how you can say that after one loss? We're still sitting pretty and like I said, the Rats and Pats both have 1 loss as well. I don't care who you beat, or who you get beat by. This is the NFL...any given Sunday. If you don't bring it every week, then you're going to get beat.

Steeldude
09-24-2017, 04:07 PM
We got outplayed and outcoached today by a team we should have beat. I won't dig into that because we are all too familiar with these occurences.

However, I will stay optimistic. We got out of the game with no serious injuries and the Ravens lost as well. We're now 2-1, just like the Pats and Ravens. We had everything to gain in this one, but nothing to really lose. We'll likely be getting Watt and Tuitt back next week to shore up the defense. The offense gets another week to gel. No need for panic and calling for coaches heads after one loss.

Losing one game in the NFL is crucial. Tomlin' Steelers laid down again.

Hawkman
09-24-2017, 04:07 PM
Consistently? Nope. There have been stretches where they look smooth and efficient, then the very next drive they look like a completely different team. Honestly Ben needs to dial it back a little, you

don't have to take a shot every freaking time you get man coverage. I'm not sure who said it but, he very well may be what's holding this offense back.

It does seem a little like all the receivers are coming up to him and saying, " yo Ben....you know I'm open....pass it to me".

st33lersguy
09-24-2017, 04:07 PM
This team has not looked good so far, especially offensively. They barely beat a Cleveland team that is 0-3, just lost to the Colts and still looks awful, now this crapfest

Shoes
09-24-2017, 04:12 PM
I don't know how you can say that after one loss? We're still sitting pretty and like I said, the Rats and Pats both have 1 loss as well. I don't care who you beat, or who you get beat by. This is the NFL...any given Sunday. If you don't bring it every week, then you're going to get beat.

Yep and they didn't bring it. It's not the one loss, but how they lost. Carbon copy of years past. How do you lose a game when only ONE bears WR had catch against the Steelers today?

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 04:14 PM
Losing one game in the NFL is crucial. Tomlin' Steelers laid down again.

Of course it's crucial. You hate to lose games you should win, but that's football and like someone else said in another thread, you don't win super bowls in September. The fact is, we're still in control of our destiny. Next week will tell a lot about this team.

st33lersguy
09-24-2017, 04:15 PM
I have no idea why this team continues to think it can dick around with bad teams when it has cost them for years

tube517
09-24-2017, 04:17 PM
My bad, I feel better about the loss now. :lol:

On the positive side, the Cheats** and Ratbirds both have a conference loss. And that is all the positives today besides Vance McDonald.

Edman
09-24-2017, 04:19 PM
I have no idea why this team continues to think it can dick around with bad teams when it has cost them for years

The players and staff change, but its the culture in the locker room, and its a reflection of its head coach. Mike Tomlin.

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 04:19 PM
Yep and they didn't bring it. It's not the one loss, but how they lost. Carbon copy of years past. How do you lose a game when only ONE bears WR had catch against the Steelers today?

They definitely did not bring it. My point is, one loss will not define this season. The loss was terrible to watch. The effort at the end was even harder. The defense was exhausted. They were on the field too much again this week.

Shoes
09-24-2017, 04:26 PM
They definitely did not bring it. My point is, one loss will not define this season. The loss was terrible to watch. The effort at the end was even harder. The defense was exhausted. They were on the field too much again this week.


Agreed, point taken.

Steeldude
09-24-2017, 04:27 PM
Of course it's crucial. You hate to lose games you should win, but that's football and like someone else said in another thread, you don't win super bowls in September. The fact is, we're still in control of our destiny. Next week will tell a lot about this team.

You don't win SBs in December either. You need wins to get to the post-season. If they lose again next week you can say you don't win SBs in October and they are still in control of their destiny ; )

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 04:32 PM
You don't win SBs in December either. You need wins to get to the post-season. If they lose again next week you can say you don't win SBs in October and they are still in control of their destiny ; )

If they lose next week they won't be in control of their own destiny. I don't think you understood my point there. If they lose next week I might panic a little.

86WARD
09-24-2017, 04:34 PM
Going into this season, these are MUST WIN games. They have a stretch of schedule that goes Titans, Packers, BengLs, Ravens, Patriots...that’s a gauntlet and they’ll be lucky to come out of that 3-2...

Neversatisfied
09-24-2017, 04:36 PM
The players and staff change, but its the culture in the locker room, and its a reflection of its head coach. Mike Tomlin.

I agree, the Steelers have become Penalty ridden and make the same mistakes on the field over and over again. The high flying, flashy offense is fun sometimes but throwing a 40 yard pass downfield on 3rd and 2 is poor coaching. The missed tackles are killing this team and have been for quite a few seasons.Fundamental football is missing in Pittsburgh

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 04:41 PM
Going into this season, these are MUST WIN games. They have a stretch of schedule that goes Titans, Packers, BengLs, Ravens, Patriots...that’s a gauntlet and they’ll be lucky to come out of that 3-2...

At this point in the season, the only games I would call must win games are divisional opponents. If we sweep the division then I like our odds of at least getting a 1st round home playoff game.

Hawkman
09-24-2017, 04:50 PM
At this point in the season, the only games I would call must win games are divisional opponents. If we sweep the division then I like our odds of at least getting a 1st round home playoff game.

Next week should be fun.....both teams will be pissed. I will be attending the Ratbirds game, and actually tailgating with Ravens fans, (but I'll slip something in their beers).

steelreserve
09-24-2017, 04:54 PM
Next week should be fun.....both teams will be pissed. I will be attending the Ratbirds game, and actually tailgating with Ravens fans, (but I'll slip something in their beers).

Do it

Put Viagra in their drinks

Make them walk around with boners all day

Craic
09-24-2017, 04:57 PM
The sky isn't falling but its a huge missed opportunity to move ahead in the divison and stay there. I'd guess the Steelers will probably be at the mercy of other teams winning and losing to get into the playoffs again this year.

In the AFCN, it's like that virtually every year. It's also interesting how often the Ravens and Steelers fail to capitalize on opportunities to put space between them in the standings.

43Hitman
09-24-2017, 04:58 PM
Next week should be fun.....both teams will be pissed. I will be attending the Ratbirds game, and actually tailgating with Ravens fans, (but I'll slip something in their beers).
I like your style


Do it

Put Viagra in their drinks

Make them walk around with boners all day
I really like your style :lol:

teegre
09-24-2017, 05:03 PM
In light of today's loss, I've adjusted my prediction:

18-1

cubanstogie
09-24-2017, 05:04 PM
did the offense ever go no huddle today. I was watching on a stream and missed a couple of drives. It seems when the offense is sluggish the no huddle usaully gives them a spark but I did not see that today with the exception of end of half.

katmandu
09-24-2017, 05:09 PM
No they haven't. Besides AB none of them have played very well. I think it should be noted that even though he hasn't turned the ball over much, Ben has been woefully inaccurate.Maybe when Le'Veon decides to end his hold out and come back will the Offense turn around !

How long do yinz think he will hold out ???

We NEED Le'Veon to save us ! Get back up off the couch Le'Veon ! Your team NEEDS you !!

...... Oh.... Sorry..... I just saw he came back to the team (3) WEEKS ago ! :ROLLEYES:

Hawkman
09-24-2017, 05:54 PM
Do it

Put Viagra in their drinks

Make them walk around with boners all day

Wonder what that will do to the women who's beer I slip it in.

steelreserve
09-24-2017, 06:21 PM
Wonder what that will do to the women who's beer I slip it in.

This sounds like an opportunity for one of the biggest scientific advances in years. I demand you do it for the benefit of humanity.

This is how people win Nobel prizes and shit.

- - - Updated - - -


Wonder what that will do to the women who's beer I slip it in.

This sounds like an opportunity for one of the biggest scientific advances in years. I demand you do it for the benefit of humanity.

This is how people win Nobel prizes and shit.

Hawkman
09-24-2017, 06:26 PM
This sounds like an opportunity for one of the biggest scientific advances in years. I demand you do it for the benefit of humanity.

This is how people win Nobel prizes and shit.

- - - Updated - - -



This sounds like an opportunity for one of the biggest scientific advances in years. I demand you do it for the benefit of humanity.

This is how people win Nobel prizes and shit.

:rofl:

86WARD
09-24-2017, 06:27 PM
At this point in the season, the only games I would call must win games are divisional opponents. If we sweep the division then I like our odds of at least getting a 1st round home playoff game.

A first round home games not gonna do much if you have to go to New England the following week. They won’t win that game 100 out of 100 times.

BurghBoy412
09-24-2017, 06:31 PM
In light of today's loss, I've adjusted my prediction:

18-1This is the one that gets them going!

43Hitman
09-24-2017, 07:33 PM
They need to find their identity on offense in a bad way.

BlackAndGold
09-24-2017, 07:46 PM
Season isn't over by any means, just frustrating that this happens every year.

This is the easy part of the schedule, should be collecting wins against teams like Chicago.

Next four games: @Ravens, Jaguars, @Chiefs, Bengals, @Lions.

AtlantaDan
09-24-2017, 07:48 PM
A first round home games not gonna do much if you have to go to New England the following week. They won’t win that game 100 out of 100 times.

The master plan is #4 seed Raiders (who get beat up in AFC West) at New England/Titans (who roll through AFC South and get #3 seed) at Steelers

Ben shreds LeBeau defense and then says he always knew it could be beat on following Tuesday morning radio show while adding he is not retiring but LeBeau should

Raiders revenge the tuck game by beating pats and then in -10 wind chill lose to Steelers in AFC championship - Bell runs for 225 yards and 100 yards receiving - statue outside of Heinz bronzed for Bell immediately with Steelers reducing 2018 offer by cost of statue

That fantasy beats current reality

GBMelBlount
09-24-2017, 07:53 PM
I think this season will be like last season with regard to us taking 1/2 the season to gel (on both sides of the ball) and then finishing strong.

Ben, Bell and Bryant will need more time on offense.

And of course the defense is very young.

So if we 5-3 or better after 8 games, I will be ok with that, especially the way our division looks.

It's all about peaking at the right time.

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 07:55 PM
A first round home games not gonna do much if you have to go to New England the following week. They won’t win that game 100 out of 100 times.

We share the same record with the Pats. I understand you're assumption that the Pats will be a 1 or 2 seed, however, the playing field is even at this point. I'm still confident we can get it together and play up to our potential. The season is still young. Next week will tell us what this team is about.

teegre
09-24-2017, 07:59 PM
We share the same record with the Pats. I understand you're assumption that the Pats will be a 1 or 2 seed, however, the playing field is even at this point. I'm still confident we can get it together and play up to our potential. The season is still young. Next week will tell us what this team is about.

It's a long season, and the cliché holds: any given Sunday.

Steelers lose to Bears.
Ravens blown out by Jaguars.
Jets didn't get the memo to quit on the season.
Heck, even the unstoppable Taperiots almost lost to Deshaun Watson.

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 08:00 PM
They need to find their identity on offense in a bad way.

Agreed. That's really what is holding this team back right now.

DesertSteel
09-24-2017, 08:51 PM
The sky is not falling!!! ......... it already fell :-/

Shoes
09-24-2017, 08:58 PM
They need to find their identity on offense in a bad way.

Interesting. Ben, the WR's and RB's have been playing together for years. Top QB, RB & WR, the O-Line right up there and they can't find their identity? I know I'm old, but I must be getting really old. :old:

SteelMayhem72
09-24-2017, 09:01 PM
Im gonna bet that Ben will retire FOR SURE after this season...I would.

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Shoes
09-24-2017, 09:03 PM
Im gonna bet that Ben will retire FOR SURE after this season...I would.

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Doesn't matter R1 pick for the Steelers OLB. :chuckle:

SteelMayhem72
09-24-2017, 09:06 PM
Im also at the point where they need to play Conner, Lev just looks like he has lost drive...must be writing some rap songs in his head

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BlackAndGold
09-24-2017, 09:15 PM
Im also at the point where they need to play Conner, Lev just looks like he has lost drive...must be writing some rap songs in his head

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Facts: The O-line has struggled to open up running lanes.

DesertSteel
09-24-2017, 09:17 PM
Im also at the point where they need to play Conner, Lev just looks like he has lost drive...must be writing some rap songs in his head

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Game check = $750K

Week 1: earned $50k
Week 2: earned $100k
Week 3: earned $150k

He owes the team $1.95M after 3 weeks,

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 09:47 PM
It's a long season, and the cliché holds: any given Sunday.

Steelers lose to Bears.
Ravens blown out by Jaguars.
Jets didn't get the memo to quit on the season.
Heck, even the unstoppable Taperiots almost lost to Deshaun Watson.

Raiders getting thumped tonight too.

BurghBoy412
09-24-2017, 09:51 PM
Win next week and your 3-1 in the 1st quarter of the season. On pace for 12-4

RunNGun
09-24-2017, 09:53 PM
Interesting. Ben, the WR's and RB's have been playing together for years. Top QB, RB & WR, the O-Line right up there and they can't find their identity? I know I'm old, but I must be getting really old. :old:

A majority of the O has been together for a long time, so you wouldn't think it would be an issue. Maybe it's not so much our identity, but simply our inability to run the football. There's no consistency there and they definitely haven't committed to the run in any game.

teegre
09-24-2017, 10:29 PM
Raiders getting thumped tonight too.

:nod:

Chiefs are currently the #1 seed.

Steelers, Ravens, Titans, Jaguars, Taperiots, Bills, Raidahs, and Broncos are all tied for the #2 seed.

Steeldude
09-24-2017, 10:40 PM
Interesting. Ben, the WR's and RB's have been playing together for years. Top QB, RB & WR, the O-Line right up there and they can't find their identity? I know I'm old, but I must be getting really old. :old:

It's all about the Me-attitude.

teegre
09-24-2017, 11:02 PM
:nod:

Chiefs are currently the #1 seed.

Steelers, Ravens, Titans, Jaguars, Taperiots, Bills, Raidahs, and Broncos are all tied for the #2 seed.

Actually...

Steelers, Bills, and Raidahs lost to NFC teams; so, they are ahead of the Ravens, Titans, Jaguars, Taperiots, and Broncos, who lost to AFC teams.

SteelerFanInStl
09-25-2017, 08:03 AM
Facts: The O-line has struggled to open up running lanes.

How dare you bring facts into the Bell hate posts.

BurghBoy412
09-25-2017, 09:31 AM
I understand the line hasn't been it's best especially in the run game. However there where a number of plays where Ben had more than enough time to observe the field and deliver. And he either threw the ball too high or low or behind the receiver. Not to mention he held it too long a couple of times and got sacked. I don't think the O-line is solely to blame here. BB needs to play better. Stop looking for the deep ball and take the easy pass underneath. As disappointed as I've been in the run game my biggest disappointment is with the QB play. It's time for Ben to look in the mirror and get his head out of his a**. Cheers!

Steelerschik
09-25-2017, 09:37 AM
Actually...

Steelers, Bills, and Raidahs lost to NFC teams; so, they are ahead of the Ravens, Titans, Jaguars, Taperiots, and Broncos, who lost to AFC teams.

Thank God for the NFC and thank God the SB isn't played after week 3. Last year sucked too when losing against the Eagles in an even uglier game, so we can look at it as an improvement from week 3 of last year. I'm anxious to see which team will play more pissed off, the Steelers or Ravens. I think I might know the answer already.

Hawkman
09-25-2017, 10:08 AM
Thank God for the NFC and thank God the SB isn't played after week 3. Last year sucked too when losing against the Eagles in an even uglier game, so we can look at it as an improvement from week 3 of last year. I'm anxious to see which team will play more pissed off, the Steelers or Ravens. I think I might know the answer already.

I'm hoping Tuitt and Watt are back, because Yanda is out for the season, so they could cause all kinds of problems for Flacco. Could be one of those 9-6 games.

SteelerFanInStl
09-25-2017, 11:46 AM
I'm hoping Tuitt and Watt are back, because Yanda is out for the season, so they could cause all kinds of problems for Flacco. Could be one of those 9-6 games.

Flacco looked absolutely horrible against the Jags. Hopefully that will continue.

SteelMember
09-25-2017, 02:59 PM
Flacco looked absolutely horrible against the Jags. Hopefully that will continue.

We will take any advantage we can get (maybe Joe's back is still nagging), BUT we have plenty of our own issues to worry about first. We need to be better.

Many said we "got lucky" only getting Keenum last week (which I don't get because one shot on MrGlass Bradford, and we're playing Keenum anyway)... look what he did against the Bucs. Who beat the Bears handily the week before.

Steelerschik
09-25-2017, 05:19 PM
I'm hoping Tuitt and Watt are back, because Yanda is out for the season, so they could cause all kinds of problems for Flacco. Could be one of those 9-6 games.

Oh no, I kinda hate those games. Looking around the NFL, teams were just off. I don't know, but isn't this typical for the Steelers to start slow and gradually progress. That's what I'm counting on. TJ Watt and Tuitt would make a huge difference or a pissed off D in general would. I hope all that shows up.

teegre
09-25-2017, 09:54 PM
look what he did against the Bucs. Who beat the Bears handily the week before.

The Bears beat the Steelers who beat the Vikings who beat the Buccaneers who beat the Bears who beat the Steelers...

Shoes
09-25-2017, 09:55 PM
The Bears beat the Steelers who beat the Vikings who beat the Buccaneers who beat the Bears who beat the Steelers...

:lol:

43Hitman
09-26-2017, 04:41 AM
The Bears beat the Steelers who beat the Vikings who beat the Buccaneers who beat the Bears who beat the Steelers...
full circle. hahaha

86WARD
09-26-2017, 07:22 AM
After that, sky is falling!!!!

AtlantaDan
09-26-2017, 08:28 AM
Science proves Steelers actually in better shape to win the division after the Bears loss

I'm not sure it really matters. Pittsburgh's loss didn't hurt at all given what happened around the AFC North. The Browns blew their best chance at a road win by losing to the Colts, dropping Cleveland to 0-3. The Bengals couldn't hold onto a 21-7 lead in Green Bay and lost to the Packers in overtime, leaving them in the cellar alongside the Browns at 0-3. Baltimore, without arguably its best player on offense (guard Marshal Yanda (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/10530/marshal-yanda), who's on IR) or defense (defensive lineman Brandon Williams (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/15875/brandon-williams)), were stomped by the Jaguars in London by 37 points.Pittsburgh came into the week with a 56.9 percent chance of winning its division and, despite the loss, left with a 73.3 percent chance of claiming its division. The Steelers have time to figure things out.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/Barnwellx170925/10-nfl-teams-seasons-changed-23-minutes-madness-week-3-2017

https://i.imgur.com/c4jt321.png

Craic
09-26-2017, 02:26 PM
I think now is perhaps the time to post what may have been my best contribution ever to the SF/SU world.

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/380745/sky-is-falling-300x225.jpg

Iron Steeler
09-26-2017, 04:20 PM
Am I the only that feels the only true shot at a superbowl run is getting Home Field advantage through out the playoffs?

Psycho Ward 86
09-26-2017, 06:54 PM
Am I the only that feels the only true shot at a superbowl run is getting Home Field advantage through out the playoffs?

Yup. For whatever reason Ben's road magic from his younger years isn't just gone, it's a curse on him now. 2+ seasons of being shitty on the road isnt a coincidence, its a pattern. Ill miss Ben when hes gone, but i wont trust him to play up to his ability on the road for the remainder of his career

Count Steeler
09-27-2017, 05:48 AM
Am I the only that feels the only true shot at a superbowl run is getting Home Field advantage through out the playoffs?

Only problem is the Super Bowl is a "road game". Ben has been a warrior for the Steelers, but those words of Noll are stuck in my mind, "When someone is thinking of retirement, he is already retired". Sometimes a spark just can't be rekindled. Does Ben have some good games left? Probably. Does he display that heart of a champion? It is getting harder and harder to see.