PDA

View Full Version : Colin Cowherd:Mike Tomlin actually hurting the Pittsburgh Steelers?



polamalubeast
09-13-2017, 07:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHBmeCMk6Rc

pczach
09-13-2017, 07:37 PM
Cowherd is looking for more attention and clicks with another hot take. Ignore him.

Born2Steel
09-13-2017, 07:39 PM
Please ignore this ass hat. Stop giving him a voice on here.

BurghBoy412
09-13-2017, 07:49 PM
Not that I'm defending Cowturd because I think he's a bone head. However I think it's funny how Steeler Nation can trash Mike Tomlin but God forbid Cowturd does it. We protect our own.

AtlantaDan
09-13-2017, 08:00 PM
So for those keeping score at home Cowherd says Mike Tomlin is hurting the Steelers and the Steelers (aka Bell and Brown) have created a "NBA like" locker room full of egos?

Colin Cowherd has a well deserved reputation these hot takes fit and that reputation is not that he unfairly picks on the Steelers

Remember All Those Other Times Colin Cowherd Said Racist Shit On ESPN? (http://deadspin.com/remember-all-those-other-times-colin-cowherd-said-racis-1720163539)

Colin blames (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/11/colin_cowherd_on_sean_taylor.html) Sean Taylor for being murdered, even though he admittedly (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2007/11/colin_cowherd_on_sean_taylor.html) had no idea what he was talking about

Colin questions (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/11/colin_cowherd_rants_on_john_wa.html#more) John Wall’s character and intelligence because he did the Dougie, and says he’s not a leader (http://deadspin.com/5688665/colin-cowherd-keeps-fucking-that-chicken-update)

Colin thinks Roger Goodell is a good disciplinarian (http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/espns-colin-cowherd-thinks-roger-goodell-is-a-dad-to-fatherless-black-nfl-players/), and a father to black football players

Colin likes Oregon because of all the white people

(http://deadspin.com/colin-cowherd-loves-oregon-because-of-all-the-wonderful-1692606366#_ga=1.89252763.1883177921.1436321441)Co lin thinks baseball is simple (http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/colin-cowherd-needs-to-stop-talking-about-dominicans-1719751555#_ga=1.89252763.1883177921.1436321441) because Dominicans play it

http://deadspin.com/remember-all-those-other-times-colin-cowherd-said-racis-1720163539

(http://deadspin.com/remember-all-those-other-times-colin-cowherd-said-racis-1720163539)
(http://deadspin.com/remember-all-those-other-times-colin-cowherd-said-racis-1720163539)

Mojouw
09-13-2017, 08:03 PM
Cowherd should just have the balls to come out and say it. But he is a spineless coward, so I'll translate for him.

The version where Cowherd wants to make an interesting debate:
"Mike Tomlin has created one of the two or three franchises in the NFL whose locker room culture reflects the culture of the majority of the young men that the team employs. The Steelers team cultrue appears, from to an outsider, to be the most urban and black of the entire league. This is a reflection of the team's roster composition and the background of its head coach. In a league where sterility and the status quo rule; it is fascinating to watch the Steelers, and maybe the Seahawks, attempt to build a franchise culture in another direction."

But he doesn't want to do that. What he wants to do but is too much of a wimp to admit is about something like this:

"The black head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers is allowing black players to dominate the locker room, the attitude of the team, and the reason they aren't consistently winning and doing as good as I think they should is that they have allowed black culture too become too dominant in their locker room and team. Look at the history of the league, white coaches and white QBs are where it is at."

It's the same brand of race-baiting nonsense that he uses when he talks about John Wall and whoever else he decides to hate in the NBA. He is a bigoted piece of garbage who is made even worse because he doesn't even have the courage to stick to his own prejudices in public.

st33lersguy
09-13-2017, 08:03 PM
Cowherd's obsessed with Tomlin

salamander
09-13-2017, 08:07 PM
The almighty Cowturd speaks once again.

polamalubeast
09-13-2017, 08:40 PM
Colin Cowherd Says Mike Tomlin’s Culture Hurting Steelers On The Road

Open-ended question for you guys. Colin Cowherd says he thinks he knows why the Pittsburgh Steelers struggle on the road. And Mike Tomlin is to blame.

On his show on FS1 today, Cowherd delved into the topic.

“Mike Tomlin and Pete Carroll have created highly emotional cultures,” he said. “This is what they have chosen. The payoff is they’re virtually unbeatable at home. They’re not even close to the same teams on the road.”

The Steelers finished last year 5-3 on the road, including blowout losses to the Philadelphia Eagles and Miami Dolphins. They were 6-2 at home while the Seattle Seahawks had an even more noticeable split, posting a sub-500 record on the road.

Cowherd countered that “calm” coaches, like Jason Garrett in Dallas and Bill Belichick in New England, fare much better on the road. To be fair, Garrett and the Cowboys went 6-2 on the road, just one game better than Pittsburgh. And New England…well, they’re the outlier for everything.


“Pete Carroll and Tomlin have created emotional cultures,” Cowherd went on. “Therefore when the home crowd is plugged into those teams, they’re completely different football teams.”

read more

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/09/colin-cowherd-says-mike-tomlins-culture-hurting-steelers-road/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SteelersDepotBlog+%28Steelers +Depot%29

Dwinsgames
09-13-2017, 08:49 PM
I may not be the biggest Tomlin fan , but that isnt even deserving of my time ..

SteelerFanInStl
09-13-2017, 09:08 PM
Please ignore this ass hat. Stop giving him a voice on here.

I agree. He doesn't deserve to be given attention here.

fansince'76
09-13-2017, 09:11 PM
Not that I'm defending Cowturd because I think he's a bone head. However I think it's funny how Steeler Nation can trash Mike Tomlin but God forbid Cowturd does it. We protect our own.

Absolutely. We can call him an asshole, but God help anyone outside of Steelers Nation who does it. :chuckle:

BurghBoy412
09-13-2017, 09:15 PM
Cowherd's obsessed with TomlinCowturd = paid troll

DesertSteel
09-13-2017, 09:20 PM
I think Cowherd is right. Some of you guys shoot down every message because you don't like the messenger. It may not be the total cause, but I think it plays some role.

AtlantaDan
09-13-2017, 10:10 PM
“Mike Tomlin and Pete Carroll have created highly emotional cultures,” he said. “This is what they have chosen. The payoff is they’re virtually unbeatable at home. They’re not even close to the same teams on the road.”

Looking forward to Cowherd's critique of John Harbaugh :coffee:

The Ravens and Seahawks consistently rank among the organizations that improve most dramatically at home. If we calculate this by sheer winning percentage as opposed to point differential, as an example, the Ravens have the largest home-field advantage in the league since 2007, winning 72.5 percent of their games at home but just 40 percent on the road.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20371914/home-field-advantage-nfl-2017-toughest-easiest-teams-play-road-more

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-13-2017, 10:14 PM
Isnt this "Locker room of egos" rant 2 weeks old or something??

I have a headline...."Cowturd recycling his own 2 week old crap and dumb listeners tune in to smell it".

tube517
09-13-2017, 10:51 PM
Cowherd is a putz. Watching Dabo Swinney lay the smackdown on his candy ass after the Championship game was great.

pczach
09-14-2017, 04:32 AM
Colin Cowherd Says Mike Tomlin’s Culture Hurting Steelers On The Road

Open-ended question for you guys. Colin Cowherd says he thinks he knows why the Pittsburgh Steelers struggle on the road. And Mike Tomlin is to blame.

On his show on FS1 today, Cowherd delved into the topic.

“Mike Tomlin and Pete Carroll have created highly emotional cultures,” he said. “This is what they have chosen. The payoff is they’re virtually unbeatable at home. They’re not even close to the same teams on the road.”

The Steelers finished last year 5-3 on the road, including blowout losses to the Philadelphia Eagles and Miami Dolphins. They were 6-2 at home while the Seattle Seahawks had an even more noticeable split, posting a sub-500 record on the road.

Cowherd countered that “calm” coaches, like Jason Garrett in Dallas and Bill Belichick in New England, fare much better on the road. To be fair, Garrett and the Cowboys went 6-2 on the road, just one game better than Pittsburgh. And New England…well, they’re the outlier for everything.


“Pete Carroll and Tomlin have created emotional cultures,” Cowherd went on. “Therefore when the home crowd is plugged into those teams, they’re completely different football teams.”

read more

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/09/colin-cowherd-says-mike-tomlins-culture-hurting-steelers-road/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SteelersDepotBlog+%28Steelers +Depot%29



Jason Garrett's calm demeanor didn't seem to help him much before he had a dominant offensive line, Dak Prescott, and Ezekiel Elliot..........:ranger:

fansince'76
09-14-2017, 05:23 AM
I think Cowherd is right. Some of you guys shoot down every message because you don't like the messenger.

Or it could be that folks recognize a 3rd-rate hack and obvious clickbait when they see them...


Isnt this "Locker room of egos" rant 2 weeks old or something??

I have a headline...."Cowturd recycling his own 2 week old crap and dumb listeners tune in to smell it".

Actually, his "Tomlin is killing the Steelers" spiel is more like 8 months old (http://www.steelersuniverse.com/forums/showthread.php/26614-Colin-Cowherd-Steelers-are-the-biggest-underachievers-in-the-NFL-over-the-last-5-years)... :yawn:

teegre
09-14-2017, 06:23 AM
Cowher used to be very good. He thought "outside of the box" and brought up thought-provoking topics.

Now... he's become nothing more than a clickbait shock jock.


I mean, really... if Tomlin was "calmer" would he have won last season's AFCCG? If Carroll wasn't so "emotional", would he have handed the ball off to Beastmode (and thus, won SuperBowl XLIX)???

polamalubeast
09-14-2017, 10:16 AM
Looking forward to Cowherd's critique of John Harbaugh :coffee:

The Ravens and Seahawks consistently rank among the organizations that improve most dramatically at home. If we calculate this by sheer winning percentage as opposed to point differential, as an example, the Ravens have the largest home-field advantage in the league since 2007, winning 72.5 percent of their games at home but just 40 percent on the road.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20371914/home-field-advantage-nfl-2017-toughest-easiest-teams-play-road-more


John Harbaugh has like 7 road wins in the playoffs, tied for the most in NFL history for a HC.

DesertSteel
09-14-2017, 11:53 AM
Or it could be that folks recognize a 3rd-rate hack and obvious clickbait when they see them...


Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :)

Mojouw
09-14-2017, 12:54 PM
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. :)

Yeah but a racist elitist clock is racist all the time whether it is broken or not. And that's kinda the problem.

AtlantaDan
09-14-2017, 02:26 PM
John Harbaugh has like 7 road wins in the playoffs, tied for the most in NFL history for a HC.

Good point :thumbsup:

Cowherd could spin that with no problem if he was making a serious argument rather than just throwing chum in the water to attract page hits with his bad road record = too much emotion coaching style argument

Cowherd - "It is like Tomlin's recurring habit of losing to at least one mediocre team a year - Harbaugh's regular season failure to match his playoff road record by underperforming from September through December costs his team home field advantage in the playoffs, which shows the Ravens are undisciplined" :chuckle:

My point was you can use data that Cowherd relies on to back into "proving" his argument to fit any contention

43Hitman
09-14-2017, 04:05 PM
Good point :thumbsup:

Cowherd could spin that with no problem if he was making a serious argument rather than just throwing chum in the water to attract page hits with his bad road record = too much emotion coaching style argument

Cowherd - "It is like Tomlin's recurring habit of losing to at least one mediocre team a year - Harbaugh's regular season failure to match his playoff road record by underperforming from September through December costs his team home field advantage in the playoffs, which shows the Ravens are undisciplined" :chuckle:

My point was you can use data that Cowherd relies on to back into "proving" his argument to fit any contention
That's his shtick. I like to call them Gumby statements.

Iron Steeler
09-14-2017, 04:20 PM
We have a lot of egos tjis year... this is going to be a tough year.

we sucked at home that one year and won on the road. Ben has a few seasons as a road warrior under his belt. So this doesnt concern me...

like I stated above we have huge egos in this year in the locker room. Got to get everyone focused

DesertSteel
09-14-2017, 04:57 PM
Well the reality is that we do play down on the road and Tonkin is an emotional guy. It's an easy 2+2. If someone else had said it, more credence would be given to it.

It's as good as every other explanation I've heard on why we play down to our competition.

Iron Steeler
09-14-2017, 06:25 PM
I love how he thinks Mike Tomlin is emotiinal in press conferences. I feel like he talks like a Judge.

Cowher... now that was an emotional man!

teegre
09-14-2017, 09:45 PM
Well the reality is that we do play down on the road and Tonkin is an emotional guy. It's an easy 2+2. If someone else had said it, more credence would be given to it.

It's as good as every other explanation I've heard on why we play down to our competition.

But, is it causality or correlation???

st33lersguy
09-15-2017, 12:14 AM
I'm starting to think Cowherd is more obsessed with Tomlin than Ray Finkle was of Dan Marino.

teegre
09-15-2017, 06:33 AM
I'm starting to think Cowherd is more obsessed with Tomlin than Ray Finkle was of Dan Marino.

:applaudit:

Joking aside, Cowherd is smart in that he talks about the fan favorites.

He used to bash Tony Romo, because Dallas has a big fan base. Then, he loved Tony Romo, because Dallas has a big fan base. Then, he slammed Dez Bryant, because Dallas has a big fan base. Then, he loved Dez Bryant, because Dallas has a big fan base.

The same goes for the Steelers. Tomlin, BB, AB, Bell (et al) are people he "obsesses" about... because, the Steelers have a big fan base.

Hawkman
09-15-2017, 06:50 AM
:applaudit:

Joking aside, Cowherd is smart in that he talks about the fan favorites.

He used to bash Tony Romo, because Dallas has a big fan base. Then, he loved Tony Romo, because Dallas has a big fan base. Then, he slammed Dez Bryant, because Dallas has a big fan base. Then, he loved Dez Bryant, because Dallas has a big fan base.

The same goes for the Steelers. Tomlin, BB, AB, Bell (et al) are people he "obsesses" about... because, the Steelers have a big fan base.

That will never overtake his man crush on Brady.

DesertSteel
09-15-2017, 12:58 PM
I'm starting to think Cowherd is more obsessed with Tomlin than Ray Finkle was of Dan Marino.
I'm starting to think people on this board are obsessed with Cowherd. He's accomplished his goal with this thread.

Neversatisfied
09-17-2017, 12:58 AM
Cowherd seems to have a bit of a hard on for the Steelers but that doesnt mean he doesnt speak some truth. Tomlin is very emotional, Ben is mediocre on the road and the Steelers are OK on the road. If AB doesnt catch that hope-and-a-prayer Ben throws up for grabs the Steelers might lose the game. The current Steeler teams have fallen victim more than once to the fact they walk onto a field and expect to win because they wear the Black and Gold. A lot of times people dont want facts pushed in their faces if they are true and hurt to hear.

pczach
09-17-2017, 07:20 AM
Cowherd seems to have a bit of a hard on for the Steelers but that doesnt mean he doesnt speak some truth. Tomlin is very emotional, Ben is mediocre on the road and the Steelers are OK on the road. If AB doesnt catch that hope-and-a-prayer Ben throws up for grabs the Steelers might lose the game. The current Steeler teams have fallen victim more than once to the fact they walk onto a field and expect to win because they wear the Black and Gold. A lot of times people dont want facts pushed in their faces if they are true and hurt to hear.-


I love when fans call that throw by Ben a "hope-and-a-prayer" or lucky.

Did you watch the game? Did you see the throw?

He moved around, saw that AB was working downfield to the sideline, and Ben threw it high and away from the inside coverage and the deep safety. AB then made a great catch, but the pass was thrown where Ben wanted it to give AB a chance.

You're making it sound like an Aaron Rodgers Hail Mary into the endzone with no time on the clock. It was nothing like that.

Which facts are true and hurt to hear? You mean like they have won more Super Bowls than anyone else? That the "mediocre" quarterback on the road is walking into the Hall of Fame?

Teams that just expect to win by showing up don't go to the AFC championship game with half the team out due to injury.

The most amazing thing is listening to fans that have seen so much success from this franchise but still don't think they have any chance to win, and criticize every aspect of the team endlessly.

teegre
09-17-2017, 07:59 AM
I think some of us are confusing causation with correlation.

FACT: Tomlin wears cool shades.

Thus.....

CAUSATION: ...less sun gets in Tomlin's eyes.

CORRELATION: ...the Steelers struggled against the Browns.

Craic
09-17-2017, 04:13 PM
“Mike Tomlin and Pete Carroll have created highly emotional cultures,” he said. “This is what they have chosen. The payoff is they’re virtually unbeatable at home. They’re not even close to the same teams on the road.”

What cracks me up is his selective memory. I, um, wouldn't say Tomlin has created a highly emotion culture. Just the opposite. He calmed down the emotional culture Bill Cowher had set. I remember SF ranting and raving because Tomlin wasn't stomping up and down the field screaming while his players were dodging flying globs of saliva like Cowher did.


Well the reality is that we do play down on the road and Tonkin is an emotional guy. It's an easy 2+2. If someone else had said it, more credence would be given to it.

It's as good as every other explanation I've heard on why we play down to our competition.

See above.