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polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 03:32 PM
Knile Davis is cut

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tube517
09-01-2017, 03:43 PM
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/09/report-steelers-will-release-rb-knile-davis/

Edman
09-01-2017, 04:03 PM
Did nothing when he was here. Not surprised by that.

Buckinnuts
09-01-2017, 04:07 PM
good, hopefully cockrell ,coates will be soon also

polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 04:09 PM
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polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 04:18 PM
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This is not a credible source

salamander
09-01-2017, 04:19 PM
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Hopefully this is true...

BurghBoy412
09-01-2017, 04:24 PM
Knile Davis is cut

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BurghBoy412
09-01-2017, 04:25 PM
903723775195320320Hopefully Yes!

tube517
09-01-2017, 04:28 PM
This is not a credible source

My bad...should have read it clearly. Hope it's true though.

86WARD
09-01-2017, 04:34 PM
Hope Watson sticks.

polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 05:00 PM
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Edman
09-01-2017, 05:04 PM
Croissant was doomed with that fumble against Denver. He needed to show out since then, and unfortunately he didn't.

tube517
09-01-2017, 05:06 PM
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FrancoLambert
09-01-2017, 05:13 PM
Glad Watson looks to have made the team. Nice depth at RB assuming the rap star returns.

Rotorhead
09-01-2017, 05:16 PM
I am pleasantly surprised, glad Watson appears to have made the team. Nice work kid!

Edman
09-01-2017, 05:44 PM
I am pleasantly surprised, glad Watson appears to have made the team. Nice work kid!

Watson officially made the team when the coaching staff decided to run him four times in a row against the Panthers. The coaching staff's hard-on for Watson was on.

tube517
09-01-2017, 05:55 PM
Is Watson the new Jon Kuhn or the new Isaac Redman?? :chuckle:

Glad he made it.

Knile Davis looks like Danny Smith put his curse on him and Frenchy is just not as good.

st33lersguy
09-01-2017, 05:59 PM
Glad they made the right decision at rb

polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 06:11 PM
I begin to believe that the steelers have learned from their mistakes in the past.

Remember when the steelers kept Dri Archer too long and that Antwon Blake was a starter for the entire season in 2015.

I think it's a thing of the past, since the steelers seem to have understood that you have to play and keep your best players!

salamander
09-01-2017, 06:17 PM
Is Watson the new Jon Kuhn or the new Isaac Redman?? :chuckle:

Glad he made it.

Knile Davis looks like Danny Smith put his curse on him and Frenchy is just not as good.

No one can compare to HOF running back John Kuuuuuuhn :chuckle:

Shoes
09-01-2017, 06:31 PM
Former Pitt ILB Matt Galambos is getting released & the team will try to sign him back to the practice squad, per source close to situation.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-01-2017, 06:42 PM
Is Watson the new Jon Kuhn or the new Isaac Redman?? :chuckle:

Glad he made it.

Knile Davis looks like Danny Smith put his curse on him and Frenchy is just not as good.

He lacks the Suddeness and Glide to compare to Redman. :hand:

GBMelBlount
09-01-2017, 07:43 PM
Glad Watson looks to have made the team. Nice depth at RB assuming the rap star returns.

Hopefully he has stopped rapping....and wrapping. :smokin:

FrancoLambert
09-01-2017, 07:50 PM
Hopefully he has stopped rapping....and wrapping. :smokin:

I think they go hand in hand. :thumbsup:

polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 07:54 PM
Am I the only one who is convinced that the steelers are going to sign 1 or 2 backup safety in the next few days?

And maybe even a starter (Ward maybe) if Mitchell's injury is serious.

polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 08:06 PM
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tube517
09-01-2017, 08:35 PM
Hopefully he has stopped rapping....and wrapping. :smokin:

https://media.tenor.com/images/a7e20eaf178538d3716ef25e618fef08/tenor.gif :applaudit:

RunNGun
09-01-2017, 08:44 PM
I want to believe that Cockrell will not be cut, rather traded. They've got to be talking to every team in the league. There's got to be some interest there. I think the Steelers would take anywhere from a 5th to 7th rd pick. It may be wishful thinking, but there's got to be some takers.

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Am I the only one who is convinced that the steelers are going to sign 1 or 2 backup safety in the next few days?

And maybe even a starter (Ward maybe) if Mitchell's injury is serious.

I agree with you. Ward would be a good addition, but who do they cut then? Golden would have to be the odd man out. Is Hagen still practice squad eligible? If not they will surely add another safety after final cuts. Definitely our thinnest position right now.

BlackAndGold
09-01-2017, 09:46 PM
Per Aditi: The Steelers are keeping 5 CB's. Burns, Haden, Gay, Hilton are staying. Who the 5th? Coty?

Sutton may go on short term IR.

Shoes
09-01-2017, 09:50 PM
Steelers have released WR Cobi Hamilton, per source.

salamander
09-01-2017, 09:51 PM
I'm glad they're actually getting rid of guys who've been stinking it up.

43Hitman
09-01-2017, 09:59 PM
Is Watson the new Jon Kuhn or the new Isaac Redman?? :chuckle:

Glad he made it.

Knile Davis looks like Danny Smith put his curse on him and Frenchy is just not as good.He's better than both IMO.

Dwinsgames
09-01-2017, 10:01 PM
https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/903811515190411264https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/903811515190411264

GBMelBlount
09-02-2017, 06:34 AM
Per Aditi: The Steelers are keeping 5 CB's. Burns, Haden, Gay, Hilton are staying.

Who the 5th? Coty?


I think that is a very sensabaugh conclusion.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 08:12 AM
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86WARD
09-02-2017, 08:19 AM
Cockring is going to stick on this roster...watch...ugh...

Has there been confirmation that Davis has been cut?

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 08:20 AM
Cockring is going to stick on this roster...watch...ugh...

Has there been confirmation that Davis has been cut?


yes

86WARD
09-02-2017, 08:21 AM
Is Watson the new Jon Kuhn or the new Isaac Redman?? :chuckle:

Glad he made it.

Knile Davis looks like Danny Smith put his curse on him and Frenchy is just not as good.

There are names that just irk me inside and get me all riled up just at their mention. It's a sick angry feeling...hard to explain. You hit on two of them in one post...kudos to you for ruining my breakfast!!!!

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 08:35 AM
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GBMelBlount
09-02-2017, 08:35 AM
Music on hold as we await the next casualty....

Here is a take on a few Steelers' whose "stock", is currently rising or falling:

https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2017-nfl-preseason-pittsburgh-steelers-carolina-panthers-tickets-streaming-time-how-to-watch/2017/9/2/16238206/steelers-stock-report-whose-stock-is-rising-falling-after-the-preseason-win-over-the-panthers-nfl

86WARD
09-02-2017, 08:39 AM
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Lol. Who was the guy who hated Nix last year...

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 08:46 AM
Five Safeties Pittsburgh Could Sign After Cutdowns

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/09/five-safeties-pittsburgh-sign-cutdowns/

43Hitman
09-02-2017, 08:50 AM
Lol. Who was the guy who hated Nix last year...
Crash?

tube517
09-02-2017, 08:55 AM
There are names that just irk me inside and get me all riled up just at their mention. It's a sick angry feeling...hard to explain. You hit on two of them in one post...kudos to you for ruining my breakfast!!!!

I don't like Danny Smith sticking as ST coach as much as you do and my stomach hurt writing it. :sick:

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 09:11 AM
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polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 09:28 AM
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polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 09:35 AM
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Born2Steel
09-02-2017, 09:39 AM
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Grimble and Johnson still on the chopping block waiting to see who else gets the ax? Or do we keep the remaining 4?

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 10:45 AM
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Edman
09-02-2017, 10:53 AM
Steelers have released WR Cobi Hamilton, per source.

That Fumble doomed him.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 10:55 AM
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Edman
09-02-2017, 11:13 AM
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I don't see them keeping Big Dan. Unfortunate the light didn't go on for him.

43Hitman
09-02-2017, 11:19 AM
I don't see them keeping Big Dan. Unfortunate the light didn't go on for him.
He just didn't have that nasty streak you need in a NT. He could've been a monster.

st33lersguy
09-02-2017, 11:24 AM
It's a shame they are keeping Robert Gilded as the backup safety to get torched literally every time he is in on sub-packages again. Hagan was better

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 11:26 AM
It's a shame they are keeping Robert Gilded as the backup safety to get torched literally every time he is in on sub-packages again. Hagan was better

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polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 12:11 PM
Antonio Brown want TJ Ward!!!

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salamander
09-02-2017, 12:15 PM
Antonio Brown want TJ Ward!!!

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Do it, Steelers....DO IT.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-02-2017, 12:21 PM
He just didn't have that nasty streak you need in a NT. He could've been a monster.

I really don't see them just keeping 5 D linemen. Big Dan might make it just as veteran space eater. I thought Maxey looked like the #6 D lineman, but I also liked Philion's play in preseason.

IMO, if they only go with 5 D linemen, then they are keeping 6 or 7 CB's, which I don't know about.

Rotorhead
09-02-2017, 12:23 PM
I would take TJ Ward, don't think he will come here, but that would be an upgrade to our secondary for sure

pczach
09-02-2017, 12:34 PM
They must be grinding the CB cuts. Golson doesn't deserve to be on the roster. If they cut Allen, someone will take him. Does Gay have anything left in the tank?

I hope they go with youth in the secondary. Now that they have Haden, he can be the veteran voice.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 01:46 PM
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Born2Steel
09-02-2017, 01:53 PM
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AB, Bryant, Rogers, JuJu, Hunter. Is that it? What do you guys think about DHB's chances to be a 6th WR?

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-02-2017, 01:54 PM
They must be grinding the CB cuts. Gilson doesn't deserve to be on the roster. If they cut Allen, someone will take him. Does Gay have anything left in the tank?

I hope they go with youth in the secondary. Now that they have Haden, he can be the veteran voice.

Allen is the 8th or 9th best CB on the team. Somebody might grab him just on potential, but I didn't see much in the preseason games that says he is a must steal from the PS. If they go with youth or trade somebody there might be space but I don't think he deserves a spot on the 53.

To me, when Cockrell ends up on the 53 again, its going to be amusing to see the fan reaction.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 01:54 PM
AB, Bryant, Rogers, JuJu, Hunter. Is that it? What do you guys think about DHB's chances to be a 6th WR?


Very good chance that DHB make the roster.

Shoes
09-02-2017, 01:54 PM
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Not surprised.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-02-2017, 01:55 PM
AB, Bryant, Rogers, JuJu, Hunter. Is that it? What do you guys think about DHB's chances to be a 6th WR?

I think that will be the 6. Tomlin loves DHB almost as much as he loved having Mike Vick on the team.

86WARD
09-02-2017, 01:56 PM
Crash?

That's it...lol.

st33lersguy
09-02-2017, 01:56 PM
Problem with getting Ward is a. salary and b. that will make half the starting secondary that would have just been added this week which is not good

86WARD
09-02-2017, 01:56 PM
I don't like Danny Smith sticking as ST coach as much as you do and my stomach hurt writing it. :sick:

Lol.

st33lersguy
09-02-2017, 01:57 PM
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Have fun with all the big plays he gives up when they put him in at safety

Born2Steel
09-02-2017, 01:59 PM
I don't see them keeping Big Dan. Unfortunate the light didn't go on for him.

I really thought Maxey beat McCullers for that 6th DL spot this preseason. We know Heyward, Hargarve, Tuitt, Alualu, and Walton. Is that the rotation? I like it barring any injury of course.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 02:00 PM
I'm going to get killed on that, but Danny Smith is an underrated coach!...I mean, before Smith was our ST coach, our special team was worse and the ST coach had not the same hate that Smith has now.

One of the reasons why the steelers missed the playoffs in 2009 was the special team.

teegre
09-02-2017, 02:01 PM
I'm going to get killed on that, but Danny Smith is an underrated coach!...I mean, before Smith was our ST coach, our special team was worse and the ST coach had not the same hate that Smith has now.

One of the reasons why the steelers missed the playoffs in 2009 was the special team.

Who hacked beast's account?????

st33lersguy
09-02-2017, 02:02 PM
I'm going to get killed on that, but Danny Smith is an underrated coach!...I mean, before Smith was our ST coach, our special team was worse and the ST coach had not the same hate that Smith has now.

One of the reasons why the steelers missed the playoffs in 2009 was the special team.

Getting awfully carried away there after one preseason

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 02:07 PM
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Shoes
09-02-2017, 02:11 PM
Marcus Tucker hasn't been cut yet? Hope they can stow him away on th PS

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 02:23 PM
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Craic
09-02-2017, 02:39 PM
Problem with getting Ward is a. salary and b. that will make half the starting secondary that would have just been added this week which is not good

I honestly would have no problem with that. The Steelers play the Browns, the Vikings, and the Bears in their first three games. You trot out the zone defense for the those games, gradually working in man-coverage and different packages as the two new players get used to the Steelers playcall language. By the time they're playing the Ravens in week 4, we are mixing in man coverage and have a much better defensive backfield than we did at any point last year. And, from there, the arrow only points north.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-02-2017, 02:48 PM
Marcus Tucker hasn't been cut yet? Hope they can stow him away on th PS
Really? I would rather see Ayers.

Tucker dropped some passes early in the preseason and his lazy clear out route at the goal line vs the Colts is what lead to the interception by not creating a lane for the outside WR to slant in. I have the starting 6 WR's, then Coates, Hamilton, Ayers all better performers than Tucker.

Shoes
09-02-2017, 02:56 PM
I like Ayers but you have to wonder why they cut him so soon.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 03:00 PM
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BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 03:02 PM
Cockrell traded to the Giants.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-02-2017, 03:11 PM
Curious what type of a penalty does a team face if they don't cut down by the deadline ?

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 03:20 PM
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tube517
09-02-2017, 03:21 PM
http://www.steelers.com/news/transactions/article-1/Steelers-trim-roster-to-53/1611796e-088e-41cb-97f4-8a08469496f1


The Steelers have made roster moves in advance of today’s 4 p.m. deadline to trim the roster to 53 players.

The Steelers have released the following players (in alphabetical order): wide receiver Demarcus Ayers, center Ruben Carter, offensive lineman Ethan Cooper, running back Knile Davis, cornerback Brandon Dixon, center Kyle Friend, linebacker Matt Galambos, linebacker Austin Gearing, safety Malik Golden(waived/injured), cornerback Senquez Golson, safety Jacob Hagen, wide receiver Cobi Hamilton, long snapper Colin Holba, defensive end Lavon Hooks, quarterback Bart Houston, linebacker Farrington Huguenin, tight end David Johnson, linebacker Steven Johnson, defensive end Francis Kallon, linebacker Keith Kelsey, defensive end Johnny Maxey, tight end Jake McGee, offensive tackle Brian Mihalik, offensive lineman Keavon Milton, cornerback Dashaun Phillips, defensive tackle Roy Philon, offensive tackle Jake Rodgers, cornerback JaCorey Shepherd, wide receiver Justin Thomas, running back Fitzgerald Touissant, wide receiver Marcus Tucker, safety Terrish Webb and running back Trey Williams.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 03:21 PM
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BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 03:24 PM
Glad they kept Allen.

And nooooooooooooooo not Holba, big mistake there.

st33lersguy
09-02-2017, 03:25 PM
Who is their long snapper now? And why did they draft a long snapper in the first place?

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 03:26 PM
Who is their long snapper now? And why did they draft a long snapper in the first place?



Kameron Canaday

BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 03:26 PM
Who is their long snapper now? And why did they draft a long snapper in the first place?

Kameron Canaday will be the LS.

They drafted a LS because Warren retried, needed competition.

tube517
09-02-2017, 03:26 PM
Who is their long snapper now? And why did they draft a long snapper in the first place?

The free agent one Canaday is the LS who won the job.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-02-2017, 03:28 PM
Who is their long snapper now? And why did they draft a long snapper in the first place? Must be the same guy who is going to return kicks for us.

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Must be like fantasy football with rbs and you can never draft to many long snappers.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 03:29 PM
I think the steelers will make other roster move in the next few days...

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86WARD
09-02-2017, 03:29 PM
A little bit surprised to see David Johnson on the list.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-02-2017, 03:30 PM
I think the steelers will make other roster move in the next few days... Yep and waiting to see who got cut around the league.

BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 03:31 PM
A little bit surprised to see David Johnson on the list.

Kept 9 OL. Guess they'll use Hubbard as a blocking TE.

tube517
09-02-2017, 03:34 PM
Kept 9 OL. Guess they'll use Hubbard as a blocking TE.

Feiler made the team but Maxey on the DL did not. Mild surprise but I guess Feiler made some impression to make it.

Craic
09-02-2017, 03:36 PM
I wonder if the Steelers will attempt to put Senquez Gholson on the practice squad. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing him there. It gives them the opportunity to evaluate him if he finally gets healthy. Otherwise, it's a cut with no skin off their nose.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-02-2017, 03:37 PM
Glad they kept Allen.

And nooooooooooooooo not Holba, big mistake there.

Yeah, I think they kept 7 CB's. really didn't think they keep that many.

Also, I thought they keep Mihalik and put Feiler on the PS, but trying to do the opposite my guess. I liked them both but not sure if they were gonna keep the guard or OT prospect on the 53

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-02-2017, 03:38 PM
I wonder if the Steelers will attempt to put Senquez Gholson on the practice squad. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing him there. It gives them the opportunity to evaluate him if he finally gets healthy. Otherwise, it's a cut with no skin off their nose. You can say that again and I agree.

Craic
09-02-2017, 03:39 PM
Problem with getting Ward is a. salary and b. that will make half the starting secondary that would have just been added this week which is not good


A little bit surprised to see David Johnson on the list.
I am too, to be honest.

BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 03:39 PM
Feiler made the team but Maxey on the DL did not. Mild surprise but I guess Feiler made some impression to make it.

Feiler was one heck of a run blocker, also wasn't PS eligible.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
09-02-2017, 03:40 PM
Seriously though 3 season of him being injured, I think it's time to cut ties altogether with Golson.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-02-2017, 03:41 PM
Feiler made the team but Maxey on the DL did not. Mild surprise but I guess Feiler made some impression to make it.

Feiler had a short pull around the center in the Carolina game and just blew up an ILB, which the announcers totally(and falsely) credited Watson with a strong run. I rewatched it 3 times in a row on the DVR is was so awesome.

Mojouw
09-02-2017, 03:52 PM
Can't believe this one hasn't exploded the board yet:

LS Colin Holba

I mean when you draft (use an actual draft pick on a long snapper) you damn well better get it right.

Maybe the recent trades and cuts have people in a forgiving mood?

86WARD
09-02-2017, 03:54 PM
Yeah...I was disappointed in that.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 03:56 PM
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09-02-2017, 04:07 PM
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polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 04:25 PM
TJ Ward...

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Craic
09-02-2017, 04:33 PM
TJ Ward...

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RunNGun
09-02-2017, 04:46 PM
Nothing is as bad as using a 2nd Rd pick on a kicker and then cutting him a year later. I'm ok with this L.

Steeldude
09-02-2017, 04:53 PM
Can't believe this one hasn't exploded the board yet:

LS Colin Holba

I mean when you draft (use an actual draft pick on a long snapper) you damn well better get it right.

Maybe the recent trades and cuts have people in a forgiving mood?

They needed to get their Daniel Sepulveda pick out of the way.

BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 05:03 PM
TJ Ward...

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This team lacks a dime backer, he would fill that role perfectly.

polamalubeast
09-02-2017, 05:16 PM
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BlackAndGold
09-02-2017, 05:31 PM
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Love it. Recruit!!!!

pczach
09-02-2017, 07:17 PM
Allen is the 8th or 9th best CB on the team. Somebody might grab him just on potential, but I didn't see much in the preseason games that says he is a must steal from the PS. If they go with youth or trade somebody there might be space but I don't think he deserves a spot on the 53.

To me, when Cockrell ends up on the 53 again, its going to be amusing to see the fan reaction.


Allen has a ton of potential. I know he struggles reading the play and reacting to the run. He isn't the most physical guy in the tackling department, but you can see him trying.

What he does have is natural cover skills in a 6' 3" body with 4.40 speed, and a good feel for the passing game. I don't think he was the 8th or 9th best CB. I really believe he was probably the 7th best CB based on his overall game and his deficiencies in tackling and attacking the run. I believe he was maybe the 4th or 5th best pure cover corner before the cuts. I see a guy that has a WR covered even when there is a little space between him and the WR. His size and speed makes it very difficult to throw over him.

In the end, I think they believed that Cockrell just didn't fit well into where this defense is going. I have been a Cockrell supporter and defender. However, I really think he has struggled with what they have been asking him to do this year. Allen is exactly what they want if he can continue to develop. He has the traits and abilities that fit the style of the defense going forward. Don't be surprised if they put him on Gronk to see what he can do when they play the Patriots later this year.

I have seen him play a few games in college, and I saw a lot of potential and a natural feel for the passing game. He can get up in the face of a WR and challenge them. When he gets more comfortable with the defensive schemes and his assignments while adjusting to the athleticism of the NFL, I think he has a chance to do some good things in the NFL.

I believe they made the right move keeping him. I think he has a lot more going for him than you do, but we'll see going forward as he gets more experience.

polamalubeast
09-03-2017, 09:02 AM
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FrancoLambert
09-03-2017, 09:50 AM
Can't believe this one hasn't exploded the board yet:

LS Colin Holba

I mean when you draft (use an actual draft pick on a long snapper) you damn well better get it right.

Maybe the recent trades and cuts have people in a forgiving mood?


I'm with you. I mentioned it in another thread but you may be right about the "forgiving mood."

My mindset was if they used a draft pick on a LS, they were pretty sure that he would make the team.

Disappointing to say the least. The question to be answered is, "how many points will it cost us over the year?"

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-03-2017, 09:52 AM
Allen has a ton of potential. I know he struggles reading the play and reacting to the run. He isn't the most physical guy in the tackling department, but you can see him trying.

What he does have is natural cover skills in a 6' 3" body with 4.40 speed, and a good feel for the passing game. I don't think he was the 8th or 9th best CB. I really believe he was probably the 7th best CB based on his overall game and his deficiencies in tackling and attacking the run. I believe he was maybe the 4th or 5th best pure cover corner before the cuts. I see a guy that has a WR covered even when there is a little space between him and the WR. His size and speed makes it very difficult to throw over him.

In the end, I think they believed that Cockrell just didn't fit well into where this defense is going. I have been a Cockrell supporter and defender. However, I really think he has struggled with what they have been asking him to do this year. Allen is exactly what they want if he can continue to develop. He has the traits and abilities that fit the style of the defense going forward. Don't be surprised if they put him on Gronk to see what he can do when they play the Patriots later this year.

I have seen him play a few games in college, and I saw a lot of potential and a natural feel for the passing game. He can get up in the face of a WR and challenge them. When he gets more comfortable with the defensive schemes and his assignments while adjusting to the athleticism of the NFL, I think he has a chance to do some good things in the NFL.

I believe they made the right move keeping him. I think he has a lot more going for him than you do, but we'll see going forward as he gets more experience.

I agree with you that he has potential. I disagree that he has 4.40 speed, as he ran a 4.48 at the combine. As for 7th best in camp, I had Gay, Burns, Cockrell, Sensabaugh, Sutton, Hilton, Haden as better performers and there might have been another I am missing. I just didn't think it was as big of a risk that somebody was going to pluck him off the PS as people think.

The thing I find interesting is that the Steelers apparently are moving to more CB's with short area quickness and change of direction, yet they kept a tall, long strider like Allen. I think its a bit of the infatuation with the "big cb" that some still talk about since Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner manned the corners in Seattle.

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They needed to get their Daniel Sepulveda pick out of the way.

Yeah, but that kid could punt and could hit too. :wink:

Born2Steel
09-03-2017, 10:09 AM
Allen has a ton of potential. I know he struggles reading the play and reacting to the run. He isn't the most physical guy in the tackling department, but you can see him trying.

What he does have is natural cover skills in a 6' 3" body with 4.40 speed, and a good feel for the passing game. I don't think he was the 8th or 9th best CB. I really believe he was probably the 7th best CB based on his overall game and his deficiencies in tackling and attacking the run. I believe he was maybe the 4th or 5th best pure cover corner before the cuts. I see a guy that has a WR covered even when there is a little space between him and the WR. His size and speed makes it very difficult to throw over him.

In the end, I think they believed that Cockrell just didn't fit well into where this defense is going. I have been a Cockrell supporter and defender. However, I really think he has struggled with what they have been asking him to do this year. Allen is exactly what they want if he can continue to develop. He has the traits and abilities that fit the style of the defense going forward. Don't be surprised if they put him on Gronk to see what he can do when they play the Patriots later this year.

I have seen him play a few games in college, and I saw a lot of potential and a natural feel for the passing game. He can get up in the face of a WR and challenge them. When he gets more comfortable with the defensive schemes and his assignments while adjusting to the athleticism of the NFL, I think he has a chance to do some good things in the NFL.

I believe they made the right move keeping him. I think he has a lot more going for him than you do, but we'll see going forward as he gets more experience.

Allen was drafted where he was for the reason that he's a project. WR turned CB. He has the ball skills and athleticism. We saw that during the preseason. I think(for what that's worth) Allen deserves to be here right now. We need the bodies for one thing, and he has shown improvement and the ability to learn. His ceiling is the only thing in question.

RunNGun
09-03-2017, 11:46 AM
Simply haven't seen enough of Allen to put a bead on him. I love his size and athleticism, but can they translate to him getting on the field, or even sticking on the roster? I don't think he will have much impact this season, but I hope they can keep him on the team and see if he develops.

BurghBoy412
09-03-2017, 12:05 PM
Allen was drafted where he was for the reason that he's a project. WR turned CB. He has the ball skills and athleticism. We saw that during the preseason. I think(for what that's worth) Allen deserves to be here right now. We need the bodies for one thing, and he has shown improvement and the ability to learn. His ceiling is the only thing in question.He's played well on ST so he has that working in his favor.