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polamalubeast
08-09-2017, 02:21 PM
Fans will get a chance to see what it might be like in the coming years when the Steelers play their first preseason game Friday night without Ben Roethlisberger, and the franchise is starting to prepare for the day when they do not have him at all.

“I hope he stays here more than one year, but we have to be prepared,” Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert told the Post-Gazette Wednesday.

The Steelers drafted quarterback Josh Dobbs in the fourth round this year and coach Mike Tomlin said the rookie will start against the New York Giants while a healthy Roethlisberger and injured backup Landry Jones will not play.


But with Roethlisberger, 35, not committing to playing beyond the 2017 season and considering his age, the Steelers are thinking about the future while hoping their star sticks around. Roethlisberger talked about possible retirement in January. He eventually committed to playing this season, but not beyond. Toward that end, Colbert may pay closer attention to quarterbacks when he makes his scouting rounds of colleges this year.


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http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/08/09/ben-roethlisberger-retirement-rumors-steelers-kevin-colbert-gm-josh-dobbs-landry-jones/stories/201708090125

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Colbert said he was somewhat surprised that Roethlisberger was thinking about retirement in January....

ALLD
08-09-2017, 03:51 PM
They should draft 2 QBs next time.

BurghBoy412
08-09-2017, 03:56 PM
Brian Schor/ James Madison U he's the future of this franchise!

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 02:51 PM
Steelers clearly not prepared for life after Ben Roethlisberger

https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/steelers/steelers-clearly-not-prepared-life-ben-roethlisberger/

BlackAndGold
08-10-2017, 03:05 PM
Nobody is prepared when a franchise QB retires.

Unless they find a way to strike gold(please Dobbs!!!) like a few teams before did, but that is rare.

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 03:07 PM
Nobody is prepared when a franchise QB retires.

Unless they find a way to strike gold(please Dobbs!!!) like a few teams before did, but that is rare.

Only the Packers(Favre) was prepared in the last 10-15 years.

86WARD
08-10-2017, 03:08 PM
Nobody is prepared when a franchise QB retires.

Unless they find a way to strike gold(please Dobbs!!!) like a few teams before did, but that is rare.

Colts were. Packers were. Cowboys turned out to be. Patriots appear to be.

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 03:12 PM
Colts were. Packers were. Cowboys turned out to be. Patriots appear to be.


The Colts have been very lucky of the timing of the neck surgery of Manning.

And I don't think Jerry Jones thought Dark was going to be good like that.

86WARD
08-10-2017, 03:15 PM
Regardless of luck or not, they had the sense to draft the guy they did and they would up with the next guy on the team and ready. You could add the Redskins to that list as well.

Hawkman
08-10-2017, 03:15 PM
The Colts have been very lucky of the timing of the neck surgery of Manning.



Yeah, Colts don't get Luck if Manning stays healthy.

86WARD
08-10-2017, 03:16 PM
But that doesn't matter. Fact is they had the sense to get him.

Hawkman
08-10-2017, 03:18 PM
I feel bad for Luck, poor guy is getting killed.

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But that doesn't matter. Fact is they had the sense to get him.

...and then not get him any help......that's looking after your QB future.

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 03:20 PM
I feel bad for Luck, poor guy is getting killed.


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yeah...The colts have a horrible owner and the colts had a horrible GM.

Hopefully their new GM will be better.

86WARD
08-10-2017, 03:22 PM
I feel bad for Luck, poor guy is getting killed.

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...and then not get him any help......that's looking after your QB future.

Yeah he's getting killed. He's a franchise QB out there on his own.

Hawkman
08-10-2017, 03:24 PM
Yeah he's getting killed. He's a franchise QB out there on his own.

Kind of pointless,isn't it.

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 03:24 PM
But that doesn't matter. Fact is they had the sense to get him.



It was not because of their competence that the Colts have had Luck.

The Colts always had one of the worst backup QB of the NFL when Manning was there and they were lucky that Manning was healthy during his first 13 years and when Manning could not play it was in a year that the best prospect QB Since Manning was in the following draft.

86WARD
08-10-2017, 03:50 PM
So okay. Take the Colts out. There's still plenty of examples where teams had the next guy on the roster.

Dwinsgames
08-10-2017, 04:12 PM
Dallas the last 2 changes at starting QB ... not just Prescott but Romo himself was already on the roster to replace Bledsoe after bledsoe was replaced by Brady in NE

hawaiiansteeler
08-10-2017, 05:10 PM
QB Josh Dobbs to start Steelers' preseason opener

Aug 9, 2017
Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

LATROBE, Pa. -- Pittsburgh Steelers rookie quarterback Josh Dobbs will start Friday at MetLife Stadium against the New York Giants, coach Mike Tomlin said Wednesday.

Ben Roethlisberger will rest for the first preseason game, and primary backup Landry Jones is dealing with an abdominal injury.

"One man's misfortune is another man's opportunity," Tomlin said. "I know [Dobbs is] excited about it. I know I'm excited about watching him play the quarterback position in that group."

to read rest of article:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2029 ... son-opener

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-10-2017, 06:15 PM
Ben's replacement is busy tonight bagging groceries at ALDI.

Drazo85
08-11-2017, 05:46 AM
Dallas the last 2 changes at starting QB ... not just Prescott but Romo himself was already on the roster to replace Bledsoe after bledsoe was replaced by Brady in NEAnd how many Lombardies did that line of succesion got them?

polamalubeast
08-11-2017, 05:50 AM
And how many Lombardies did that line of succesion got them?


You can have a very good QB, even if you do not have a Super Bowl!

Drazo85
08-11-2017, 06:11 AM
You can have a very good QB, even if you do not have a Super Bowl!Yes you can. But you play to win titles, and QBs are defined by them. Sure there are Marino, Kelly, Moon, etc but those men won consistently. Romo and Bledsoe have two or three (i' m guessing, correct me if i'm wrong) playoff wins combined. I'm not calling that successfull, for that is waste a time and money.

86WARD
08-11-2017, 08:14 AM
Bledsoe and Romo weren't a waste of time. They were bothe very good QBs. By your logic, you'd rather ride or die with Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson than have Bledsoe or Romo?

Mojouw
08-11-2017, 11:01 AM
This got weird. I mean Rex Grossman played in a Super

http://beardownuk.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rexgrossmanbendover.jpg


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86WARD
08-11-2017, 11:13 AM
This got weird. I mean Rex Grossman played in a Super

http://beardownuk.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/rexgrossmanbendover.jpg


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Lol. I forgot about him.

Drazo85
08-11-2017, 02:06 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't understand well about what we are talking here. I thought we are talking about franchise quarterbacks, not journeymens who accidentaly stumbled to superbowl appearances or wins. Somehow Dilfer has similar playoff record like Romo. Sure i would rather have Marino, Kelly, Moon than Dilfer or Brad Johnson, but Romo was waste of time and money. So was Bledsoe in Dallas, so is Tannenhill in Miami, Palmer in Cincinnaty, Oakland and Arizona, Stafford in Detroit, Alex Smith in KC... Rivers and Luck are stuck with incompentent owners and organisations.

Mojouw
08-11-2017, 02:55 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't understand well about what we are talking here. I thought we are talking about franchise quarterbacks, not journeymens who accidentaly stumbled to superbowl appearances or wins. Somehow Dilfer has similar playoff record like Romo. Sure i would rather have Marino, Kelly, Moon than Dilfer or Brad Johnson, but Romo was waste of time and money. So was Bledsoe in Dallas, so is Tannenhill in Miami, Palmer in Cincinnaty, Oakland and Arizona, Stafford in Detroit, Alex Smith in KC... Rivers and Luck are stuck with incompentent owners and organisations.

Not sure I'm following. What is the reason that Romo was a waste? That he didn't win a Super Bowl and/or more playoff games?

So how should teams be evaluating QBs? How many playoff wins per season? 1? 2? 4? What about if the team fails to make the playoffs? Do they cut the QB and draft another guy for his spot?

I'm not saying Romo is great or whatever, but not sure what the standard between "worth the money" and "waste of money" is falling.

polamalubeast
08-11-2017, 02:56 PM
I would be glad if the replacement of Roethlisberger would be a QB caliber of Romo since it is realistic to think that you can win a super bowl with him.

Ask Bill Cowher if he would have been glad to have Romo in his first 12 years!

86WARD
08-11-2017, 02:59 PM
So who should Dallas have had in place of Romo that wasn't a "waste of time and money." It's not like you can just go pick a Franchise QB off a tree.

You mentioned Moon. He was 3-7 in the playoffs. Romo was 2-4. Moon was pretty much a waste of time and money then.

You've almost named half the league as a waste of time. Again, where are those team supposed to get QBs that aren't a "waste of time"?

Drazo85
08-11-2017, 05:42 PM
I know that they are not falling from trees. I don't know how much money Romo made in his career, but I'm pretty sure it is too much for only two playoff wins. People around here are often mentioning Flaco's contract, and while I agree with them that he is overpaid, but at least he led Ravens to a Superbowl. What I'm trying to say is that only a few franchises have been lucky to find two franchise QBs in a row. 49ers from Montana to Young, Packers from Favre to Rodgers, maybe Colts from Manning to Luck (to early to say) and if I'm forgeting someone please feel free to correct me, my knowledge about 60s or 70s isn't that good.

polamalubeast
08-11-2017, 05:44 PM
By this logic, 31 teams will waste at least 100-130 million because they will not have won the super bowl ....

Drazo85
08-11-2017, 05:53 PM
I'm done trying to explain myself...

Obviously we don't agree what traits QBs must have to be called franchise QBs...

j-d-s
08-13-2017, 02:27 AM
There is the consensus that a QB has to be above the Andy Dalton line to be considered a franchise QB.Aside from that, we are the Steelers. We don't look for the Andy Daltons or Ryan Tannehills of the world. Because those may be franchise QBs, but none which would put you in a position to win a Lombardi.

polamalubeast
08-13-2017, 06:08 AM
I'm done trying to explain myself...

Obviously we don't agree what traits QBs must have to be called franchise QBs...

It's okay if you do not consider Romo as a QB franchise.

But I do not agree that it was a waste of money by the Cowboys.