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Shoes
07-25-2017, 07:12 PM
See ya Sammie.


The end of Sammie Coates’ 2016 season was marred by injury.
In 2017, it’ll begin with one too.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/07/fowler-sammie-coates-miss-start-camp-due-knee-scope/ (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/07/fowler-sammie-coates-miss-start-camp-due-knee-scope/)

polamalubeast
07-25-2017, 07:20 PM
Good start.....

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Even if it was very stupid to say that, Martavis was right when he said that JuJu is the replacement of Coates.

DesertSteel
07-25-2017, 07:29 PM
Not looking good.

Btw, thanks for not digging up some 6-month old unrelated thread about Coates to post this in. That drives me crazy around here and a couple other sites.

86WARD
07-25-2017, 07:46 PM
Btw, thanks for not digging up some 6-month old unrelated thread about Coates to post this in. That drives me crazy around here and a couple other sites.

Agree with that.

On the topic: hope that JuJu and Eli make Coates irrelevant.

teegre
07-25-2017, 07:57 PM
Colbert knew what he was doing by drafting JuJu...

Shoes
07-25-2017, 08:01 PM
Agree with that.

On the topic: hope that JuJu and Eli make Coates irrelevant.


I think JuJu would have replaced Coates regardless of his health, but I don't see him taking Eli's slot. Rogers improved with every game he played. We have a good problem!

Born2Steel
07-25-2017, 08:06 PM
We are limited at TE. JuJu AND Rogers may see a lot of together time.

Shoes
07-25-2017, 08:09 PM
We are limited at TE. JuJu AND Rogers may see a lot of together time.



Sounds good to me, but don't get me going on the TE issue. :chuckle:

BlackAndGold
07-25-2017, 08:50 PM
It'll be a month.

The chances of Hunter, or Ayers making the 53 has increased.


Have to feel bad for Coates, f'd up fingers, now he'll miss a month of camp in a deep WR group.

Born2Steel
07-25-2017, 08:56 PM
I'd put the money on Hunter over Ayers. I hate it for Coates but this is exactly why Hunter was brought in.

BurghBoy412
07-25-2017, 09:01 PM
Colbert knew what he was doing by drafting JuJu...It's all making sense now

Craic
07-25-2017, 09:02 PM
I say stick him on IR this year. Then see if he can get his weight up to around 250 (50 pounds) without losing a ton of speed. If he can, let him try out at TE next year. If not, or if he's not willing, then let him go. The roster's too full of talent.

DesertSteel
07-25-2017, 09:28 PM
I say stick him on IR this year. Then see if he can get his weight up to around 250 (50 pounds) without losing a ton of speed. If he can, let him try out at TE next year. If not, or if he's not willing, then let him go. The roster's too full of talent.
Makes you wonder why teams never think outside the box.

Mojouw
07-25-2017, 10:24 PM
Justin Hunter.....come on down. Your turn at the Steelers WR rehab machine starts now.

May the odds ever be in your favor.


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pczach
07-26-2017, 05:54 AM
Agree with that.

On the topic: hope that JuJu and Eli make Coates irrelevant.



And I hope that Coates plays so well that the organization doesn't know what to do with all the talent.

86WARD
07-26-2017, 09:15 AM
Trade him.

steelreserve
07-26-2017, 10:20 AM
It's looking like #14 was an oddly appropriate choice for him.

I hope he makes it back in time to actually get something out of the preseason. There WILL be a role for him, I guarantee it. Just a question of which of our other receivers ends up with some random injury.

AtlantaDan
07-26-2017, 10:38 AM
Trade him.

Might get a sixth round choice - teams know Steelers are jammed up with receivers and that someone with some talent will be waived - Coates already was a potential cut and now will have maybe 2 weeks to show he should stay

86WARD
07-26-2017, 11:24 AM
I'd look for a decent third down back. Steelers Depot had an article proposing a trade for Tavaris Cadet. I'd do that deal.

Dwinsgames
07-26-2017, 11:41 AM
We are limited at TE. JuJu AND Rogers may see a lot of together time.

I said when he was drafted to look for much more 10 personnel from the Steelers this year ( not something we run often prior )

would also like to see some 20 personnel with Connor and Bell set to each side of Ben out of the shotgun , that formation gives you so much diversity in running the ball from the shotgun , swing passes , slants and one or both backs can stay in and help protect if the def is showing blitz packages .....

am hopeful for both formations seeing some snaps but am almost certain we see 10 without a doubt

polamalubeast
07-26-2017, 11:47 AM
The steelers have too much talent at the wide receiver position in 2017 that I hope Haley will not go too often with the 2/3 TE formation..

Our receivers were a big weakness in 2016 after Brown because of the injury Wheaton and Coates but in 2017, if our WR are healthy, it should be a strength.

Rotorhead
07-26-2017, 03:03 PM
I can see Coates not making it after this, he only flashed his ability for 1/2 a season, but this opens the door for Hunter. We will see who is hungry this preseason as this injury puts 1 more spot in flux. Going to be a fun preseason for sure!

86WARD
07-26-2017, 03:12 PM
Agree. I think Coates will get every chance to hold a roster spot and Id like to see him show up, but it's not looking good.

ALLD
07-26-2017, 08:21 PM
If Ben Coates is his dad he should move to TE. If not, then Sammy is on the clock.

Dwinsgames
07-28-2017, 05:50 PM
https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/891063666191237121

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so to open camp Justin Hunter gets first reps opposite AB ....its early but not starting like a guy who will be cut , not sure why Martavis wasn't in that spot

AtlantaDan
07-28-2017, 06:36 PM
https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/891063666191237121

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so to open camp Justin Hunter gets first reps opposite AB ....its early but not starting like a guy who will be cut , not sure why Martavis wasn't in that spot

Bryant cannot practice until he gets some remaining issues tied to his reinstatement cleaned up with the league office

Mojouw
07-29-2017, 12:09 PM
At this point I think it is pretty clear that this a league office issue, not a Martavis Bryant issue. The league almost never moves quickly to reinstate guys.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
07-29-2017, 02:05 PM
Coates is to talented to give up on and will have a roster spot. His hands was questionable from the get go. Even if he only catches 50% of the long balls that is still good for the team. I also see Hunter making this team and bet he will be one of the players that has a great preseason. I don't think Bey keeps a roster spot this season.

polamalubeast
07-29-2017, 02:13 PM
JuJu is OUT today, so with JuJu, Coates and Bryant out, our WRs are not a strength right now.

I hope it will not be like last year where we have thought before the season last year than the WR position would be a strength, even with Bryant out and that after Wheaton and Coates have been injured, it was horrible after Brown.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
07-29-2017, 02:24 PM
Probably just being precaution with JuJu since of others being out. Agreed though and hope not like last season. If it is then that is just horrible luck but I have faith.

polamalubeast
07-29-2017, 03:08 PM
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polamalubeast
07-29-2017, 03:28 PM
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steelerdude15
07-29-2017, 04:38 PM
Yeah, I've seen from multiple accounts that Justin has been pretty good these past couple of days. Good.

polamalubeast
07-29-2017, 04:39 PM
but...

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steelerdude15
07-29-2017, 04:43 PM
but...

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Saw this too. Hopefully it is nothing serious.

pczach
07-30-2017, 05:54 AM
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When Hunter came out of college a few years ago, I thought he had a huge upside. He has everything you want in a WR physically. He's tall, fast, great leaping ability, and extremely athletic with long limbs. He has good hands and was a high jumper in school.

The questions about him have been his weight and strength(he has played a little light), and his desire and toughness IMO. Heart means so much in the game of football. How badly does he want it? If he strives to be great, I believe he can be.

I was super high on him coming out of college. I don't think he put everything he had into being the best WR he could be. Being in a winning environment and watching AB work his ass off and push him while also having a HOF caliber QB motivate him and throw to him will hopefully be the inspiration he needs to max out his potential.

The guy can be absolutely scary if he puts it all together because from a physical standpoint, he has as much talent as anyone.

Born2Steel
07-30-2017, 08:19 AM
I hope Coates comes back and makes this the toughest competition for the rest of preseason.

polamalubeast
07-30-2017, 04:17 PM
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Dwinsgames
07-30-2017, 06:47 PM
When Hunter came out of college a few years ago, I thought he had a huge upside. He has everything you want in a WR physically. He's tall, fast, great leaping ability, and extremely athletic with long limbs. He has good hands and was a high jumper in school.

The questions about him have been his weight and strength(he has played a little light), and his desire and toughness IMO. Heart means so much in the game of football. How badly does he want it? If he strives to be great, I believe he can be.

I was super high on him coming out of college. I don't think he put everything he had into being the best WR he could be. Being in a winning environment and watching AB work his ass off and push him while also having a HOF caliber QB motivate him and throw to him will hopefully be the inspiration he needs to max out his potential.

The guy can be absolutely scary if he puts it all together because from a physical standpoint, he has as much talent as anyone.

it sure won't hurt having Richard Mann as your position coach either

pczach
07-30-2017, 07:42 PM
it sure won't hurt having Richard Mann as your position coach either


No sir. That won't hurt either.

What a great coach he has been for this team.

polamalubeast
07-31-2017, 06:57 PM
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Hamilton was our 2nd WR on outside for the second half of the season and in the playoffs last year.

Useless to say, Bryant is going to be a big upgrade to Hamilton.

Mojouw
07-31-2017, 06:58 PM
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Hamilton was our 2nd WR on outside for the second half of the season and in the playoffs.

Useless to say, Bryant is going to be a big upgrade to Hamilton.

I predict Hamilton is one of the first cuts. He is "just a guy".

Ayers, Hunter, and maybe even Severin offer more "upside"

pepsyman1
08-01-2017, 04:40 AM
someone please call Anquan Boldin...he's a perfect fit for what we need until we know whats going on with everyone else.

BlackAndGold
08-01-2017, 05:14 AM
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Hamilton was our 2nd WR on outside for the second half of the season and in the playoffs last year.

Useless to say, Bryant is going to be a big upgrade to Hamilton.

One of the reason why we got blown tf out against the Pats.

teegre
08-01-2017, 07:38 AM
One of the reason why we got blown tf out against the Pats.

Yep.
Hamilton dropped two TDs in that game.

14 points > 0 points

Mojouw
08-01-2017, 09:48 AM
Yep.
Hamilton dropped two TDs in that game.

14 points > 0 points

Let me check that math....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsGMhXNWcAIgLOx.jpg

polamalubeast
08-01-2017, 10:01 AM
Let me check that math....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsGMhXNWcAIgLOx.jpg

still lose this game.

Born2Steel
08-01-2017, 11:51 AM
still lose this game.

True. But people have hit the panic button due to the margin of the loss. Add in our lost opportunities due to poor playmaking, and we are in this game to the end. No way our defense was going to slow down the Pats in that game. If we could have kept pace scoring, maybe 1 forced error by our defense changes things enough.

polamalubeast
08-01-2017, 12:01 PM
True. But people have hit the panic button due to the margin of the loss. Add in our lost opportunities due to poor playmaking, and we are in this game to the end. No way our defense was going to slow down the Pats in that game. If we could have kept pace scoring, maybe 1 forced error by our defense changes things enough.

This is the way the steelers lost.

But I don't want to go back on that since we had the whole off-season to talk about it, but the steelers have rarely been competitive against the pats since our offense has no margin of error.

The pats have only had a drive with a Punt in the AFC title game!...It takes a entire team effort to win against them.

pczach
08-01-2017, 04:14 PM
Yep.
Hamilton dropped two TDs in that game.

14 points > 0 points


You're selling Hamilton short. He also dropped a 2-point conversion in that game.:lol:

Dwinsgames
08-01-2017, 04:19 PM
Cobi Hamilton = Lee Mays without the fanfare or better than average speed

86WARD
08-01-2017, 05:05 PM
Lee Mays >>>>>> Hamilton

polamalubeast
08-06-2017, 12:40 PM
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Mojouw
08-06-2017, 04:42 PM
Remember last season when everyone loved this guy? He's the easiest cut on the roster.

polamalubeast
08-06-2017, 04:55 PM
Remember last season when everyone loved this guy? He's the easiest cut on the roster.

That was not the case for me

In fact, I never understood the love with Hamilton .... Same thing for Jesse James, even if of course he is better than Hamilton in his position.

teegre
08-06-2017, 06:15 PM
You're selling Hamilton short. He also dropped a 2-point conversion in that game.:lol:

Yeah, but failed 2-point conversions are always Tomlin's fault. :wink02:

pczach
08-06-2017, 06:29 PM
Yeah, but failed 2-point conversions are always Tomlin's fault. :wink02:


I'm sorry. I lost my head for a second there. :chuckle:

BlackAndGold
08-07-2017, 12:41 PM
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Moye had such a big fan club.

BlackAndGold
08-09-2017, 10:38 AM
Q:Over a week into camp, what WR make the team? What WR get cut?


Gerry Dulac: AB, Bryant, JuJu, Rogers, Coates and DHB.


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/08/09/Gerry-Dulac-Steelers-chat-8-9-17/stories/201708090091

I think Hunter will give DHB a run but I agree with this. I'm hoping maybe Hunter could fetch a TE via trade if one is available, Jesse James has been inconsistent in camp so far.

tube517
08-09-2017, 11:02 AM
Injuries forced us to play Cobi Bryant last year. He was basically a 7th string walk on.

He would be the first to go IMHO.

Ayers would be good to keep on the PS.

As far as DHB vs Coates vs Hunter??? DHB is probably the best Special Teams player but he's getting older and health is a concern.

Coates is Edward Scissorhands and his confidence is a huge question mark.

I wouldn't sleep on Hunter. (high draft pick who has never had a high caliber QB like Ben).

I would love to see a 4 wide set with AB, Bryant, Coates, and Hunter. :car:

Born2Steel
08-09-2017, 11:10 AM
Injuries forced us to play Cobi Bryant last year. He was basically a 7th string walk on.

He would be the first to go IMHO.

Ayers would be good to keep on the PS.

As far as DHB vs Coates vs Hunter??? DHB is probably the best Special Teams player but he's getting older and health is a concern.

Coates is Edward Scissorhands and his confidence is a huge question mark.

I wouldn't sleep on Hunter.

Of Hunter, Coates, DHB, I think we should hang on to 2. WR corps would look like, AB, Bryant, Rogers, JuJu, Hunter, and Coates/DHB. Coates showed ST ability last season. He's a younger version of DHB, I don't know their money hits. Ayers could beat out both of them with some preseason game magic but I doubt it. From what I'm hearing about camp, Hamilton is almost certain to be cut. Same with Severin, if he's even practicing.

86WARD
08-09-2017, 12:30 PM
Q:Over a week into camp, what WR make the team? What WR get cut?


Gerry Dulac: AB, Bryant, JuJu, Rogers, Coates and DHB.


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/08/09/Gerry-Dulac-Steelers-chat-8-9-17/stories/201708090091

I think Hunter will give DHB a run but I agree with this. I'm hoping maybe Hunter could fetch a TE via trade if one is available, Jesse James has been inconsistent in camp so far.



Not surprising.

86WARD
08-09-2017, 12:31 PM
Injuries forced us to play Cobi Bryant last year. He was basically a 7th string walk on.

He would be the first to go IMHO.

Ayers would be good to keep on the PS.

As far as DHB vs Coates vs Hunter??? DHB is probably the best Special Teams player but he's getting older and health is a concern.

Coates is Edward Scissorhands and his confidence is a huge question mark.

I wouldn't sleep on Hunter. (high draft pick who has never had a high caliber QB like Ben).

I would love to see a 4 wide set with AB, Bryant, Coates, and Hunter. :car:

I'd take Rogers over Coates or Hunter in that set.

BlackAndGold
08-09-2017, 12:53 PM
If Coates is healthy, he has shown he can be a game changer, more so than Hunter has ever shown. Add in the fact he's good on special teams, and he's under contract for another year, makes him likely he stays on the 53.

pczach
08-09-2017, 04:21 PM
I believe that it's time for DHB to go. He plays hard and he plays special teams, but this team needs as many weapons as they can put on the field. The last several years, there have been injuries to offensive skill position starters, and the drop off to guys like DHB is like falling off a cliff from a talent perspective. I hope they learned their lesson after not having enough fire power when a few WR's go down.

DHB should not be on this roster IMO. He is a liability at WR.

43Hitman
08-10-2017, 11:22 AM
If Coates is healthy, he has shown he can be a game changer, more so than Hunter has ever shown. Add in the fact he's good on special teams, and he's under contract for another year, makes him likely he stays on the 53.I completely agree. I heard this exact same thing this morning on SNR. I love that app, its the best thing for us out of town fans.
#SNUproud

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 02:54 PM
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BlackAndGold
08-10-2017, 03:01 PM
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Not shocking. Not like he's a 2nd year player. He's going into his 5th year, he is who he is.

Still hoping he plays well in the PS to challenge for a roster spot, or at the very least becomes potential trade bait.

86WARD
08-10-2017, 03:20 PM
Jets need WRs like crazy. They could get Jordan Matthews, but a late round pick for Hunter would be nice.

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 05:38 PM
Jeff McNeill: Who has been most surprising good and bad so far?

Alex: Good: I think you gotta give it to Hilton. A lot of time spring puff pieces are just that. Puff pieces. But he’s the real deal.

Bad: I knew Cobi Hamilton wouldn’t be great. But even based on low-ish expectations, he’s been bad. Hands don’t look as good as they did last year.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/08/ask-alex-steelers-mailbag-89/

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-10-2017, 05:51 PM
I believe that it's time for DHB to go. He plays hard and he plays special teams, but this team needs as many weapons as they can put on the field. The last several years, there have been injuries to offensive skill position starters, and the drop off to guys like DHB is like falling off a cliff from a talent perspective. I hope they learned their lesson after not having enough fire power when a few WR's go down.

DHB should not be on this roster IMO. He is a liability at WR.Agreed!

tube517
08-10-2017, 05:53 PM
I'd take Rogers over Coates or Hunter in that set.

Rogers (supposedly) wasn't 100% last year. I wonder if he'll show more speed. He made some good catches last year but it seemed like his YAC was limited.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/04/eli-rogers-growth-must-come-ball-hands/

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-10-2017, 05:54 PM
Said this months back and Bey, Ayers and Hamilton won't make the 53. Brown, Bryant, Rogers, Coates, JUJU and Hunter will.

Ps I wouldn't trade Hunter for anything less then a 5th and who knows after last year he may become very important at some point.

DesertSteel
08-10-2017, 07:04 PM
Said this months back and Bey, Ayers and Hamilton won't make the 53. Brown, Bryant, Rogers, Coates, JUJU and Hunter will.

Ps I wouldn't trade Hunter for anything less then a 5th and who knows after last year he may become very important at some point.
They'd be my picks too, but somehow I think Tomlin will find a reason to keep DHB. It would be a mistake IMO due to the talent they'd have to cut.

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And DHB should be able to catch on with another team... or come back with us after an injury at some point.

polamalubeast
08-10-2017, 07:05 PM
They'd be my picks too, but somehow I think Tomlin will find a reason to keep DHB. It would be a mistake IMO due to the talent they'd have to cut.

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This is also my feeling.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-10-2017, 07:30 PM
They'd be my picks too, but somehow I think Tomlin will find a reason to keep DHB. It would be a mistake IMO due to the talent they'd have to cut.

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And DHB should be able to catch on with another team... or come back with us after an injury at some point. If that is the case then Tomlin will be pulling a Cowher hanging on to old vets when there is better younger talent.

teegre
08-10-2017, 09:46 PM
I'll add this...

DHB is a good lockerroom guy.

DesertSteel
08-10-2017, 11:46 PM
I'll add this...

DHB is a good lockerroom guy.
That's why I could see him coming back after an injury. Speed dial.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-11-2017, 12:22 AM
I'll add this...

DHB is a good lockerroom guy. So was Kordell but sexual preference should have nothing to do with the situation.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-11-2017, 12:37 AM
Also just the point and a Cowher move to keep a vet passed his prime.

polamalubeast
08-11-2017, 07:22 PM
I hope Hamilton will not make the team because he beat Antwon Blake twice

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-11-2017, 10:00 PM
I hope Hamilton will not make the team because he beat Antwon Blake twice He won't! Glad he did good though and hope that helps him to make another roster.

polamalubeast
08-14-2017, 05:29 PM
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polamalubeast
08-14-2017, 05:55 PM
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43Hitman
08-14-2017, 06:07 PM
897211535017336833Good deal.

polamalubeast
08-16-2017, 09:35 AM
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polamalubeast
08-18-2017, 03:22 PM
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BlackAndGold
08-18-2017, 03:27 PM
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Not looking good, after last week, I'll say he's behind both DHB, and Cobi Hamilton.

polamalubeast
08-18-2017, 03:32 PM
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BlackAndGold
08-18-2017, 03:39 PM
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Sounds like DHB.

But as everyone knows, he's a very good ST player, can play every WR position, and still has deep speed, ideal last WR on depth chart.

pczach
08-18-2017, 04:32 PM
Sounds like DHB.

But as everyone knows, he's a very good ST player, can play every WR position, and still has deep speed, ideal last WR on depth chart.



That's what I don't get about the DHB love. He's a very good special teams player, but special teams never seem to make a difference in winning games. I can't think of a game the Steelers won because of the play of DHB on special teams.

On the other hand, when injuries to the WR corps hit and the team needed someone to step up......DHB has been a liability and contributes nothing to help the offense or the team win when he is counted on. He is literally an anchor that has never come up big in a big spot as an offensive player. I can think of a bunch of games that the Steelers lost when backup WR's didn't step up. He's the veteran that is supposed to be the guy that elevates his game.....not the youngsters that he is supposedly mentoring.

It just makes no sense to keep an offensive player that can't contribute offensively.

Mojouw
08-18-2017, 06:08 PM
That's what I don't get about the DHB love. He's a very good special teams player, but special teams never seem to make a difference in winning games. I can't think of a game the Steelers won because of the play of DHB on special teams.

On the other hand, when injuries to the WR corps hit and the team needed someone to step up......DHB has been a liability and contributes nothing to help the offense or the team win when he is counted on. He is literally an anchor that has never come up big in a big spot as an offensive player. I can think of a bunch of games that the Steelers lost when backup WR's didn't step up. He's the veteran that is supposed to be the guy that elevates his game.....not the youngsters that he is supposedly mentoring.

It just makes no sense to keep an offensive player that can't contribute offensively.

All true and things I agree with. But look at the WR meeting room without him:

AB - Mr. Facebook Live
Bryant - will he just roll joints in the film sessions?
Eli Rogers - 2nd year guy with a lot to learn/prove
Coates - still learning to harness his physical tools
Juju - 20 year old rookie
Hunter - an almost even more underwhelming former high pick than DHB.
Ayers - likely won't make the final 53
Hamilton - just a guy

I think DHB makes it as the "level headed adult mentor" for this group. I figure he gets in and Hunter gets cut loose? Hunter is the ultimate practice player who looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. Has just jaw dropping physical tools, but if the lightbulb was gonna go on for this kid, it likely would've happened by now.

Of course, there is the idea that the Steelers see Hunter as a 26 year old version of DHB and swap the two?

tube517
08-18-2017, 06:32 PM
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polamalubeast
08-18-2017, 07:44 PM
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pczach
08-19-2017, 12:39 PM
All true and things I agree with. But look at the WR meeting room without him:

AB - Mr. Facebook Live
Bryant - will he just roll joints in the film sessions?
Eli Rogers - 2nd year guy with a lot to learn/prove
Coates - still learning to harness his physical tools
Juju - 20 year old rookie
Hunter - an almost even more underwhelming former high pick than DHB.
Ayers - likely won't make the final 53
Hamilton - just a guy

I think DHB makes it as the "level headed adult mentor" for this group. I figure he gets in and Hunter gets cut loose? Hunter is the ultimate practice player who looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane. Has just jaw dropping physical tools, but if the lightbulb was gonna go on for this kid, it likely would've happened by now.

Of course, there is the idea that the Steelers see Hunter as a 26 year old version of DHB and swap the two?


I definitely understand that side of it but ,ultimately, this is still football and the best players need to be on the roster.

All that leadership led to exactly nothing in the AFC championship game without experienced talent on the field.

Maybe it's time they see that you can get away with more things if you work your ass off during camp, preseason, and weekdays....and play your ass off in games.

I'm more old school, but it's time to cover the field with weapons.

Mojouw
08-19-2017, 12:45 PM
I definitely understand that side of it but ,ultimately, this is still football and the best players need to be on the roster.

All that leadership led to exactly nothing in the AFC championship game without experienced talent on the field.

Maybe it's time they see that you can get away with more things if you work your ass off during camp, preseason, and weekdays....and play your ass off in games.

I'm more old school, but it's time to cover the field with weapons.

I like the cover the field with weapons idea - but I'm not sure who the "extra" weapons can be.

AB, Bryant, Rogers, Juju are all either proven or highly likely to be effective options for attacking a defense at the NFL level.

Then you have Coates, Hunter, and DHB. Basically three versions of the same guy. Tall, fast, explosive, and serious questions about their ability to consistently catch the ball. How many of that group do the Steelers want to roster? If it is only 1 - then I go with Coates. He is just as threatening running deep routes as the other two, plays far more physical than Hunter, and likely can equal DHBs special teams skills. If they go with 2, then it is Coates and "?". Hunter has had some really good practices in shorts and t-shirts. Then they put the pads on and it all goes to crap. So maybe DHB?

I don't know, but it is going to go down to the last preseason game in my opinion.

Born2Steel
08-20-2017, 12:04 PM
I like the cover the field with weapons idea - but I'm not sure who the "extra" weapons can be.

AB, Bryant, Rogers, Juju are all either proven or highly likely to be effective options for attacking a defense at the NFL level.

Then you have Coates, Hunter, and DHB. Basically three versions of the same guy. Tall, fast, explosive, and serious questions about their ability to consistently catch the ball. How many of that group do the Steelers want to roster? If it is only 1 - then I go with Coates. He is just as threatening running deep routes as the other two, plays far more physical than Hunter, and likely can equal DHBs special teams skills. If they go with 2, then it is Coates and "?". Hunter has had some really good practices in shorts and t-shirts. Then they put the pads on and it all goes to crap. So maybe DHB?

I don't know, but it is going to go down to the last preseason game in my opinion.

Just to throw a different wrinkle in this. Of those last 3, Coates, DHB, and Hunter, I think Coates is the first option as well. But, what if they decide to cut DHB AND Hunter, to keep Ayers? Not what I would do either. But for discussion, Ayers was brought here to play ST mostly. He was introduced as a specialist for ST. Personally, I would keep Coates and DHB, Coates over DHB, if it's 1 or the other. Hunter has to still be on the outside looking in, just like Ayers. But I don't count out Ayers just yet in the last cut WR conversation.

Mojouw
08-20-2017, 02:13 PM
Just to throw a different wrinkle in this. Of those last 3, Coates, DHB, and Hunter, I think Coates is the first option as well. But, what if they decide to cut DHB AND Hunter, to keep Ayers? Not what I would do either. But for discussion, Ayers was brought here to play ST mostly. He was introduced as a specialist for ST. Personally, I would keep Coates and DHB, Coates over DHB, if it's 1 or the other. Hunter has to still be on the outside looking in, just like Ayers. But I don't count out Ayers just yet in the last cut WR conversation.
Good point! I honestly keep forgetting about him. But I have a bias for big wideouts that the Steelers may not share.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
08-20-2017, 10:28 PM
DHB needs to go and don't care how fast he is, how good a ST player he is or a team leader. He sux and never been more then average at best with no upside!

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He is the Ryan Leaf of WR's.

BlackAndGold
08-20-2017, 10:44 PM
DHB needs to go and don't care how fast he is, how good a ST player he is or a team leader. He sux and never been more then average at best with no upside!

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He is the Ryan Leaf of WR's.

Ouch, I'd go with Justin Blackmon there.

DHB was over drafted because of Al Davis obsession with elite speed.

If they go 6 WR's he makes it Imo, but if the ST keeps impressing like they did today then the Steelers may give his roster spot to another position like OL, or CB. Maybe give it to Trey Williams if he has another good game of returning punts...

Born2Steel
08-21-2017, 12:14 PM
Good point! I honestly keep forgetting about him. But I have a bias for big wideouts that the Steelers may not share.

Since Ayers has yet to make an appearance this preseason, and Trey Williams has taken a punt for a TD, I now believe Ayers is done as a Steeler. If Williams can't make the 53, how could you justify keeping Ayers? May be good news for Hunter/DHB. Hunter made a pretty good play to get into the endzone. Against bubble players true, but still a good, athletic play. A shorter receiver is down short of the goal line.

polamalubeast
09-01-2017, 07:24 AM
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Born2Steel
09-01-2017, 07:41 AM
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While I do agree with this, Coates did a lot for us last season. Injured hands and groin and all. There is something to be said for a guy that just goes out there when told. I'm thinking Steelers only keep 5 WRs, we'll see, but Coates AND Hunter may be out if they stick with DHB one more year.

Shoes
09-01-2017, 07:47 AM
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And the results won't change much if he's on the roster the entire year.