Most Influential Coach

[Mojouw]

Other thread got me thinking. What Steelers Coach has the biggest/most Influential NFL legacy? Defined not by wins and losses but by some vague definition of impact.

Earhardt? Big offensive scheme legacy but that has roots far beyond Steelers.

Noll? Not certain what his impact was. Sure it's extensive.

Carson? Steel Curtain and arguably aspects of the Tampa 2 - at least Dungy has said so.

Lebeau?

Wondered what others might have to say.


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[DesertSteel]

Noll. Not even close. If you limit it to coordinators, that's a different question.

[BostonBlackie]

Mike Tomlin

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[86WARD]

Noll. Easy. He turned the organization from nothing to something.

[Born2Steel]

Steelers coach with the biggest NFL legacy? I would have to say Chuck Noll. He set the standard for not just the Steelers, but for the entire league. 4 SBs in 6 years, and with a team that had done nothing before him. As others have said in other threads, the '76 team could have easily made it 5 of 6 SBs if not for offensive injury. Sure he had the backing of a great FO, but that was Noll's plan and execution.

[Dwinsgames]

The Emperor Chas and its really not close

Dick Lebeau is easily 2nd IMO

Bill Cowher would be 3rd for returning championship quality play after some down years

Sneaking in without much fanfare by the masses for me is Richard Mann for 4th

5th place would be Bud Carsons hard to argue the puppet master of the Steel Curtain , I would have him a bit higher if Noll was not so hands on with every aspect of the team

6th Mike Tomlin albeit I am not sure what he brings specifically and I personally give him a lot of heat he has managed to drag a Lombardi back home

7th Dom Capers only here 3 years but set the tone for what Lebeau would finish

8th again not here long ( yet ) but hopefully is here for the long haul Mike Munchak what he has done for this O-Line is what Legends are made of

9th Ron Erhardt parts of his system remained long after he departed 3 yards and a cloud of dust haven't been the same without him

10th not a coach but if I am honest not sure anyone had a bigger hand in Steelers football than Bill Nunn without him none of the rest matters

your list may vary but would be interested in seeing others top 10 and reasoning

[ALLD]

Chuck Noll is only surpassed by Vince Lombardi in NFL history. An argument could be made for Bill Walsh too who was very innovative and successful in a different era. All other Steeler coaches have benefitted from the system that Noll and Dan Rooney created.

[DesertSteel]

1. Noll
2. Tomlin
3. Cowher

[teegre]

Dan Rooney

^^That is my vote.^^

[Dwinsgames]

^^That is my vote.^^

I almost had him on my list , it feels empty without him but at the same time felt this was about staff , people hired and fired ... certainly Dan and his Father belong but I think that is a separate list since they where not hired or fired .

that being said , without the Rooneys there isnt even football in the Burgh and like my Bill Nunn comment we are not even having this discussion

[tube517]

The Emperor
Tom Moore
Dick LeBeau

in a few more years:
Mike Munchak

Bill Nunn Sr (he is really a Jr) should be in the HOF.

[ALLD]

Dan Rooney despite being in the HoF is probably the most underrated person there. I think he would have liked it that way anyway. It was Dan, Chuck and Joe Greene that started it all.

[AtlantaDan]

In terms of making a franchise that was a joke into one of the flagship franchises in the NFL, it obviously is Noll

If the standard is how many of a coach's assistants became head coaches, it arguably is Cowher (although Tony Dungy is the only Noll or Cowher assistant to have won a Super Bowl as a head coach)

Assistant coaches under Noll that became NFL head coaches:

Tony Dungy
John Fox
Rod Rust
Bud Carson

http://graphics.wsj.com/nfl-coaches/

Assistant coaches under Cowher that became NFL head coaches:


Bruce Arians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Arians): Indianapolis Colts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianapolis_Colts) (2012), Arizona Cardinals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals) (2013–present)
Dom Capers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dom_Capers): Carolina Panthers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Panthers) (1995–1998), Houston Texans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Texans) (2002–2005)
Chan Gailey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Gailey): Dallas Cowboys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys) (1998–1999), Buffalo Bills (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bills) (2010–2012)
Jim Haslett (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Haslett): New Orleans Saints (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orleans_Saints) (2000–2005), St. Louis Rams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams) (2008)
Dick LeBeau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_LeBeau): Cincinnati Bengals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Bengals) (2000–2002)
Marvin Lewis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Lewis): Cincinnati Bengals (2003–present)
Mike Mularkey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Mularkey): Buffalo Bills (2004–2005), Jacksonville Jaguars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksonville_Jaguars) (2012), Tennessee Titans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Titans) (2015–present)
Ken Whisenhunt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Whisenhunt): Arizona Cardinals (2007–2012), Tennessee Titans (2014–2015)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher