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SteelerEmpire
09-15-2010, 01:01 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are "all" the tea party candidates running vs. Republicans in these preliminaries ? Why are none running vs the Dems right now ? I smell a rat... a frontal assault that "makes certain" they eliminate Repubs right out the gate.
You got the Tea Party on one side, a low public opinion (Dems here also), the gradual changing of population demographics against them... then Sara Palin (lol)... its not easy being a Republican right now... just my observation...

Wallace108
09-15-2010, 01:29 AM
If Republicans hadn't strayed so far from the right, there would be no need for the Tea Party.

venom
09-15-2010, 06:30 AM
If Republicans hadn't strayed so far from the right, there would be no need for the Tea Party.

There you go . :thumbsup:

43Hitman
09-15-2010, 06:41 AM
If Republicans hadn't strayed so far from the right, there would be no need for the Tea Party.

Exactly. And the Repubs are really going to piss me off if they don't support the candidate that the conservative voters picked in Delaware. Newt really pissed me off last night on Hannity with the way he acted. Guess what Newt! The people decided that shit for brains Mike Castle couldn't get the job done. He should have thought about that when he voted for cap and trade. The Republican party has to get rid of these Rhino's, and Mike Castle was one of them.

SteelerSal
09-15-2010, 06:42 AM
Is this what you think of a 2am? My head is hugging a pillow. LOL

Wallace108
09-15-2010, 07:23 AM
Exactly. And the Repubs are really going to piss me off if they don't support the candidate that the conservative voters picked in Delaware. Newt really pissed me off last night on Hannity with the way he acted. Guess what Newt! The people decided that shit for brains Mike Castle couldn't get the job done. He should have thought about that when he voted for cap and trade. The Republican party has to get rid of these Rhino's, and Mike Castle was one of them.

Not only does Castle support cap and trade, but he also voted for Dennis Kucinich's Bush impeachment resolution. And this is the guy the GOP supports? :crazy: And everything I've heard so far indicates the Republican establishment will NOT support Christine O'Donnell.

st33lersguy
09-15-2010, 08:05 AM
The tea party is backing real republicans and throwing fake republicans out.
The tea party is nothing more than conservatives taking their party back

Vis
09-15-2010, 08:58 AM
The tea party is backing real republicans and throwing fake republicans out.
The tea party is nothing more than conservatives taking their party back

And leaving moderates no where to go but to the Dems. Here's the deal, a tea bagger in a red state may please the diehards but in a blue or purple state it will mean a seat not picked up.

LLT
09-15-2010, 02:48 PM
And leaving moderates no where to go but to the Dems. Here's the deal, a tea bagger in a red state may please the diehards but in a blue or purple state it will mean a seat not picked up.

This WOULD be true if the Dems hadnt moved so far to the left. No true "moderate" could support the FAR-LEFT Democratic party that is now in power.

Stlrs4Life
09-15-2010, 02:55 PM
This WOULD be true if the Dems hadnt moved so far to the left. No true "moderate" could support the FAR-LEFT Democratic party that is now in power.


I agree with that,. at the same way, no way we support the far right Neo Cons either.

Vis
09-15-2010, 03:05 PM
This WOULD be true if the Dems hadnt moved so far to the left. No true "moderate" could support the FAR-LEFT Democratic party that is now in power.

The Dems have moved right. Give me examples of the Dems going left.

7SteelGal43
09-15-2010, 03:46 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but are "all" the tea party candidates running vs. Republicans in these preliminaries ? Why are none running vs the Dems right now ? I smell a rat... a frontal assault that "makes certain" they eliminate Repubs right out the gate.


If you are a "tea party" member running for office and it's the primaries, are you more likely to have support among more liberal dem voters or more conservative rep voters ? There are dems who are in support of the tea party as well (which remember, technically, the tea party isn't a political party per se') but at the core, the tea party is a movement to take over the republican party from RINOs. IMO


Let me put it this way. The tea party is a movement to inject more true conservative senators and reps into Washington. I'm sure it's easier to accomplish this through the Republican party then the Democrat party.

43Hitman
09-15-2010, 04:36 PM
Not only does Castle support cap and trade, but he also voted for Dennis Kucinich's Bush impeachment resolution. And this is the guy the GOP supports? :crazy: And everything I've heard so far indicates the Republican establishment will NOT support Christine O'Donnell.

And they'll do so at their own peril. I suspect they will wise up and realize the gig is up and it's time to get back to true conservative values.

JonM229
09-15-2010, 05:08 PM
I miss the Whig Party

SteelerEmpire
09-15-2010, 06:38 PM
What happened to Perot's Federalist's ?

st33lersguy
09-15-2010, 07:47 PM
The Dems have moved right. Give me examples of the Dems going left.

Wow, the massive spending, the stimulus, the health care bill. proposing cap and tax. Give me an example of the dems moving to the right

Vis
09-15-2010, 08:34 PM
Wow, the massive spending, the stimulus, the health care bill. proposing cap and tax. Give me an example of the dems moving to the right

The health care bill was a sellout to the right. It should be single payor. The massive spending meme is crap. the stimulus was a Bush thing.

Wallace108
09-15-2010, 08:38 PM
The health care bill was a sellout to the right. It should be single payor.

A sellout to moderates, maybe ... but definitely not the right.
Oh, and SINGLE payer translates to every SINGLE person who works will pay for those who don't ...

X-Terminator
09-15-2010, 08:50 PM
The health care bill was a sellout to the right. It should be single payor. The massive spending meme is crap. the stimulus was a Bush thing.

There's no way in hell I would ever support a single-payer system. I do not want a bunch of government bean counters in charge of my health care decisions, period. I want to be in control of those decisions, along with the doctor of my CHOICE. And please do not give me Medicare as an example - first of all, they don't cover everything, and of the things they DO cover, they cover 80%. The patient has to cover the other 20%, and if they don't have co-insurance, well then they're SOL. Second of all, there is a 2-year waiting period before you can even get ON the program if you qualify for Social Security. Yeah, someone with severe health problems can really afford to wait 2 years to get health benefits. :rolleyes: And most Republicans want to repeal Obamacare, so obviously they don't feel it's a "sellout to the right."

I propose allowing insurance companies to sell their policies across state lines and allow competition. I think that will go a long way toward solving the problem of high premium costs, because they would have to keep their premiums at a reasonable cost in order to stay in business.

GodfatherofSoul
09-20-2010, 10:37 AM
This WOULD be true if the Dems hadnt moved so far to the left. No true "moderate" could support the FAR-LEFT Democratic party that is now in power.

And, how have Democrats moved to the left exactly? Clinton and Obama are centrists, which is why the base is so pissed at him. You think he's far left because in every election you're told that the Democratic candidate is a leftist extremist or the most liberal member of the Senate.

smokin3000gt
09-20-2010, 12:19 PM
Wow, the massive spending, the stimulus, the health care bill. proposing cap and tax. Give me an example of the dems moving to the right


Let's not forget TAX TAX TAX and then SPEND SPEND SPEND or gun control that only got forgotten about because obama was busy ramming HC down our throats.

smokin3000gt
09-20-2010, 12:20 PM
There's no way in hell I would ever support a single-payer system. I do not want a bunch of government bean counters in charge of my health care decisions, period. I want to be in control of those decisions, along with the doctor of my CHOICE. And please do not give me Medicare as an example - first of all, they don't cover everything, and of the things they DO cover, they cover 80%. The patient has to cover the other 20%, and if they don't have co-insurance, well then they're SOL. Second of all, there is a 2-year waiting period before you can even get ON the program if you qualify for Social Security. Yeah, someone with severe health problems can really afford to wait 2 years to get health benefits. :rolleyes: And most Republicans want to repeal Obamacare, so obviously they don't feel it's a "sellout to the right."

I propose allowing insurance companies to sell their policies across state lines and allow competition. I think that will go a long way toward solving the problem of high premium costs, because they would have to keep their premiums at a reasonable cost in order to stay in business.


and let's make it easier for them to keep premiums down by cutting down on frivolous law suits and ridiculous pay outs.

st33lersguy
09-20-2010, 12:58 PM
And, how have Democrats moved to the left exactly? Clinton and Obama are centrists, which is why the base is so pissed at him. You think he's far left because in every election you're told that the Democratic candidate is a leftist extremist or the most liberal member of the Senate.

No I think Obama is far left because he hangs out with radical communists like Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright among much others, and has strong ties to the SEIU and he has rammed big spending bills and socialist healthcaredown america's throats

GodfatherofSoul
09-20-2010, 02:24 PM
No I think Obama is far left because he hangs out with radical communists like Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright among much others, and has strong ties to the SEIU and he has rammed big spending bills and socialist healthcaredown america's throats

Explain how he hangs out with Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright. I know the talking points you're regurgitating. I want to hear it in your words.

Craic
09-20-2010, 02:57 PM
Explain how he hangs out with Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright. I know the talking points you're regurgitating. I want to hear it in your words.
I have no real dog in this fight. I don't like Obama, but this has never been an argument for me. However, to answer your question, I think the Chicago Sun does the best rehearsal of the facts:

In the mid-1990s, Ayers and Dohrn hosted a meet-and-greet at their house to introduce Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois Senate. In 2001, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's campaign. Ayers also served alongside Obama between December 1999 and December 2002 on the board of the not-for-profit Woods Fund of Chicago. That board met four times a year, and members would see each other at occasional dinners the group hosted.
In addition, Ayers and Obama interacted occasionally in their roles with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a not-for-profit group charged with spending tens of millions of dollars it obtained through its affiliation with a school-improvement foundation created by late Ambassador Walter H. Annenberg. Obama chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge's board of directors. Ayers served on the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, which made recommendations to the board on which organizations should get grants. The groups worked on school-reform efforts between 1995 and 2000.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/902213,CST-NWS-ayers18.article

As far as Wright is concerned. He was Obama's pastor. That means that Obama factually chose to be under his teaching and associated with him.

GodfatherofSoul
09-20-2010, 03:43 PM
I have no real dog in this fight. I don't like Obama, but this has never been an argument for me. However, to answer your question, I think the Chicago Sun does the best rehearsal of the facts:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/902213,CST-NWS-ayers18.article

As far as Wright is concerned. He was Obama's pastor. That means that Obama factually chose to be under his teaching and associated with him.

Thank for the links. These are the actual relationships between Obama and these two. The Obama "hangs out with communists" crap is a canned talking point from the election. Not many people even know WTF the basis of that charge is.

silver & black
09-20-2010, 05:35 PM
There's no way in hell I would ever support a single-payer system. I do not want a bunch of government bean counters in charge of my health care decisions, period. I want to be in control of those decisions, along with the doctor of my CHOICE. And please do not give me Medicare as an example - first of all, they don't cover everything, and of the things they DO cover, they cover 80%. The patient has to cover the other 20%, and if they don't have co-insurance, well then they're SOL. Second of all, there is a 2-year waiting period before you can even get ON the program if you qualify for Social Security. Yeah, someone with severe health problems can really afford to wait 2 years to get health benefits. :rolleyes: And most Republicans want to repeal Obamacare, so obviously they don't feel it's a "sellout to the right."

I propose allowing insurance companies to sell their policies across state lines and allow competition. I think that will go a long way toward solving the problem of high premium costs, because they would have to keep their premiums at a reasonable cost in order to stay in business.


It seems so simple, doesn't it? Apparently, it's too simple...lol.

Borski
09-20-2010, 05:42 PM
This is my theory from the beginning, I'm hoping the Tea Party breaks off to form a legitimate 3rd party, and hopefully the political spectrum will even out so that instead of Far Right Republican vs Far left Democrat, it will hopefully even out to Far Right Tea Party, Moderate (after awhile) Republican, Far Left Democrat. I hate the 2 party system and a legitimate 3rd party would be great even if I won't necessary vote for their candidates (I might, but we'll see)

JonM229
09-20-2010, 07:30 PM
A story on the Tea Party as only the Chinese can report:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXu4wna11I

GoSlash27
09-20-2010, 07:32 PM
The TEA Party folks are to the Republicans as the blue dogs are to the Dems. It's just a popular backlash from the parties betraying their own stated principles.
If the TEA Party movement causes the Republicans to lose a few seats, it's not really a big loss. They pretty much act like Democrats anyway.