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Born2Steel
06-08-2017, 06:15 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000813747/article/six-teams-with-a-chance-to-beat-the-patriots

Big Ben got the number 1 Patriot killer vote.
86WARD
06-09-2017, 11:58 AM
What gives anyone any inclination that Marshawn Lynch is still "beastly"?
st33lersguy
06-09-2017, 12:21 PM
What gives anyone any inclination that Marshawn Lynch is still "beastly"?

It's based on one play during a minicamp practice that went viral going up against the raiders bottom 10 defense
Born2Steel
06-09-2017, 04:38 PM
I love how the 'Beast Mode' moniker came from a run against the Saints' worst tackling defense in history. Record setting bad defense. We probably have a few posters on this forum that could've ran through those guys. But it's forever now. 'Beast Mode' Lynch. Just like those fans in Seattle "invented" 12th man.
fansince'76
06-09-2017, 08:33 PM
It's based on one play during a minicamp practice that went viral going up against the raiders bottom 10 defense

Figures. Did he grab his junk afterwards, as usual? :coffee:
st33lersguy
06-09-2017, 08:38 PM
Figures. Did he grab his junk afterwards, as usual? :coffee:

If I remember correctly no, he just did his stupid dive into the endzone
fansince'76
06-09-2017, 11:06 PM
If I remember correctly no, he just did his stupid dive into the endzone

It'd be kinda funny if he landed "wrong" and wound up on IR...
teegre
06-10-2017, 08:52 AM
Regardless of Beast Mode's beastiness...

The Raidahs are indeed on the verge of being dominant in the AFC. I expect them to be in 7 of the next 10 AFCCGs.
Mojouw
06-10-2017, 10:25 AM
Like him or hate him, Lynch (in his prime) was one of the most violent runners in the league. https://youtu.be/6xftLbeMhcI

Also, the Raiders are coming for the rest of the league...and they look terrifying.
teegre
06-10-2017, 10:51 AM
Also, the Raiders are coming for the rest of the league...and they look terrifying.

Yep.

If they had traded up for Reddick (as was rumored), I'd have slotted them into the SuperBowl. ILB is their only real weakness. Of course, if Conley pans out (they get a steal), then they would simply go nickel on every down (eliminating the hole at ILB).

In other words, I'm more worried about the Raidahs than I am of the Taperiots. That is NOT a slight of the Taperiots; that is how much respect I have for the Raidahs.
st33lersguy
06-10-2017, 11:55 AM
The Raiders need to demonstrate significant strides on defense before overtaking the Cheaters. They finished bottom 10 in total, rushing, and pass defense and were 20th in scoring defense. Otherwise, in a playoff game against them, they'll get torched by Brady, while Oakland's offense won't be able to score enough points going against New England's defense

Same thing goes for Pittsburgh, their secondary and pass rush needs to be better against New England if they want any chance of beating them
86WARD
06-10-2017, 01:19 PM
Like him or hate him, Lynch (in his prime) was one of the most violent runners in the league. https://youtu.be/6xftLbeMhcI

Also, the Raiders are coming for the rest of the league...and they look terrifying.

I've always thought him to be overrated as a back. With the exception of maybe 3 of those highlights, you can see the rest of those runs on any given Sunday and it helps that some of those poor tackling defenses were bottom of the barrel as far as the NFL is concerned. The other 3 or so are pretty nice highlights...
Mojouw
06-10-2017, 01:24 PM
I've always thought him to be overrated as a back. With the exception of maybe 3 of those highlights, you can see the rest of those runs on any given Sunday and it helps that some of those poor tackling defenses were bottom of the barrel as far as the NFL is concerned. The other 3 or so are pretty nice highlights...

I don't know. Lynch likely isn't an all time great, but he was one of the 5 best backs in the league for the majority of his career.

For many of the seasons he played and played very well, he was on offenses that were essentially "line it up and give it Lynch".
teegre
06-10-2017, 07:29 PM
The Raiders need to demonstrate significant strides on defense before overtaking the Cheaters. They finished bottom 10 in total, rushing, and pass defense and were 20th in scoring defense. Otherwise, in a playoff game against them, they'll get torched by Brady, while Oakland's offense won't be able to score enough points going against New England's defense

True

I just feel that the Raidahs are about to explode. That young defense will catch up to its already very good offense... and they will be "the team to beat in the AFC" for the next decade.
Born2Steel
06-11-2017, 11:00 AM
Ebb and flow. Today, I like our offense vs their defense. I like our defense against their offense as well. They may very well catch us, but I still put us ahead of them, and we're still young as well. If Dobbs can use the weapons efficiently, we shouldn't have such a huge dropoff when Ben retires. IF....
teegre
06-11-2017, 10:20 PM
Ebb and flow. Today, I like our offense vs their defense. I like our defense against their offense as well. They may very well catch us, but I still put us ahead of them, and we're still young as well. If Dobbs can use the weapons efficiently, we shouldn't have such a huge dropoff when Ben retires. IF....

As long as BB is playing, we're ahead of them.

The second he retires... :scared:
Born2Steel
06-12-2017, 09:57 AM
As long as BB is playing, we're ahead of them.

The second he retires... :scared:

Yep.