Strength and Weakness of Mike Tomlin after 10 seasons?

[polamalubeast]

What are the strengths and weaknesses of Mike Tomlin after 10 seasons with steelers?

I mean, the things you're happy about Tomlin and the things you'll like that Tomlin gets better.

[Edman]

Strengths:

Cool Shades
A Walking Meme
Talent Acqusition
Team Building
Excellent Home Coach
Building O-Line (Grabbing Mike Munchak)


Weaknesses:

Bad Injury Luck.
X's and O's
Losses to crappy teams.
Recent Road Woes.
Slight Underachievement.

The Steelers have a team that potentially win 13-14 games, but due to bad losses and horrid luck with injuries, they only win 10-11 games, costing them a higher seed and potentially a bye in the postseason.

[st33lersguy]

Strengths:
Overcoming adversity
Building a talented team
No losing seasons
Great motivator
Advancing deep in the playoffs with a young team

Weaknesses:
Too many losses to bad teams
In-game adjustments
Sticks with garbage players for too long

[BlackAndGold]

Want to blame someone for the losses to bad teams? look no further than your starting QB.

[FrancoLambert]

Strengths: demands a "team-first" mentality from his players
great motivator
emphasizes physical football as a way to win
his teams don't give up
bonafide wordsmith

Weaknesses: losses to clearly inferior teams
weak at making adjustments/X's and O's in game
too aggressive/stubborn in going for 2 point conversions (especially when the first one fails)
clock management (but getting better)

[Edman]

Overcoming adversity

This. His coaching job for the 2013 season was the stuff of the greats. To pull that talent-deficient team together to the doorstep of the playoffs after that disastrous start was fantastic. If Ryan Suck Up doesn't miss that kick, It would've been one of the greatest Steelers stories of our generation.

I was all the more willing to let that season tank, but Tomlin didn't.

[polamalubeast]

The miss kick by the kicker of the chiefs is one of the most painful moments I have seen.

2010 and 2015 were also excellent coaching job (if we exclude the situation of Blake in 2015) because his two teams had a lot of injury and suspension, but they never gave up.

For the negative side, the 2009 season and the game against Tebow in 2011 are the two biggest black spots of Tomlin.

[43Hitman]

In before this devolves into a fire Tomlin thread. If the Rooneys love him, so do I. All coaches have strengths and deficiencies. All I care about is championships and this team year in and year out is in contention for championships.

[polamalubeast]

In before this devolves into a fire Tomlin thread. If the Rooneys love him, so do I. All coaches have strengths and deficiencies. All I care about is championships and this team year in and year out is in contention for championships.


This is not my goal.

[43Hitman]

This is not my goal.I understand that and respect what you're thread is really about, but these threads always devolve to the lowest common denominator. Keep up the good posting PB. :-)

[teegre]

The miss kick by the kicker of the chiefs is one of the most painful moments I have seen.

Indeed

At that point in time, my wife was still a Chargers fan (she bleeds black & gold now). I wrote an editorial (which is now lost) over at SF about sitting on the couch next to her during that game.

[Six Rings]

Tomlin as head coach took over a super bowl team, stacked with Bill Cowher players in their primes, many of whom were pro bowl players and leaders.


He got to work with Kevin Colbert an excellent GM/draft person, hired by the Steelers before Tomlin, and Ben Roethlisberger, who will end up as a Hall of Fame quarterback. If there's a better owner than Rooney, I do not know his name. This foundation is a head coach's dream. I honestly believe without Ben or Colbert he would not have lasted this long.


Strengths:


Great with the media. A wordsmith, who can take some pressure off the players.


Seems to be able to keep his focus through the ups and downs of an NFL season whether they are injuries, suspensions, or unfair NFL related decisions. Players pick up on this


Has built a culture of a team, a player's coach. Players enjoy being here.


A believer in playing physical football, which I think rubs off on his team.


Youth. He's in his prime for a head coach far from old.




Weaknesses:


Not an X's and O's type of coach. Relies heavily on his coordinators such as HOF coach Dick LeBeau who prefer a 3-4, while Tomlins's specialty was supposed to be a 4-3 cover 2. The secondary has been average for years under Tomlin, and until recently has not been fixed. The best coaches take a part of the game and add their own specialty to it. Tomlin has never done this.


A poor clock management coach, in terms of managing his timeouts. The Steelers should hire a math/clock management guy to do this, yes--I'm serious.


Unable to make half time adjustments.


Too much of a gambler, who kicks when he should go for it and goes for it when he should kick.


A horrible track record of losing to inferior teams. This above all else needs to stop. It's about preparation and keeping the players focus on easier games.


Mediocre in the playoffs was 0-4 in his last playoffs until last season.


A bad history of dealing with injured players and not lighting the load of key dinged up players when needed it. Tomlin prefers to let a player play rather than rest him while injured. These type of gambles have come back to bite us a few time.s


Unable to steer poor character players. Some coaches can, others can't. We have too many failed drug test types and suspensions, more than more teams in the NFL.


A lack of a plan B at quarterback. He's been very lucky here.


Has developed a reputation that precedes him with the officials.


Never takes full responsibility for a loss.

[Edman]

Tomlin as head coach took over a super bowl team, stacked with Bill Cowher players in their primes, many of whom were pro bowl players and leaders.

Not defending Tomlin, but that is simply wrong. Mike Tomlin took over an 8-8 team with a young Quarterback coming off a season where he led the league in interceptions, and facing several question marks regarding his motorcycle accident a year earlier.

[DesertSteel]

Strength: Overcomes adversity well.
Weakness: Uses the word 'obviously' too much. Obviously.

[Six Rings]

Not defending Tomlin, but that is simply wrong. Mike Tomlin took over an 8-8 team with a young Quarterback coming off a season where he led the league in interceptions, and facing several question marks regarding his motorcycle accident a year earlier.

An 8-8 team that won the super bowl 2 seasons ago with something to prove, several pro bowl players in their primes, a few likely hall of fame players on the roster, and an easier 8-8 schedule. Yep.

In the playoffs players ripped Tomlin as they were beaten up because of too many full contact practices. Max Starks had a very honest take, saying they lost to the Jaguars because a rookie head coach wore his own team down.

[ALLD]

Tomlin has lots of energy, but he likes to be pals instead of the HC sometimes. The team often lacks discipline and is frequently off to slow starts putting them in holes and low seeds. Tomlin also out thinks himself at times and then gets caught going in circles while digging a deeper hole.

Yes, he is better than most coaches, but he ain't no Chuck Noll- who is?

[zulater]

He's been a mostly successful coach, I wont say he's great, but in the end he could come off that way. I could blab on and give you the pro's and cons, but that's mostly been covered. In the end it comes down to this. His one glaring weakness is that Bellichick more or less owns him. If he ever wants to be considered truly great he has to beat Bellichick on even terms. ( 08 Patriots didn't have Brady, and in 10 Jets took them out) This year should afford him a great chance. The game's in Pittsburgh. He's got to beat the Patriots to assure a potential playoff game is in Pittsburgh as well. If he could beat Bellichick and Brady both in the regular season and in the playoffs in the same season you could start measuring his bust for Canton.

[ALLD]

Tomlin could beat the Pats and then lose to Jacksonville and the Browns back-to-back.

[Craic]

An 8-8 team that won the super bowl 2 seasons ago with something to prove, several pro bowl players in their primes, a few likely hall of fame players on the roster, and an easier 8-8 schedule. Yep.

In the playoffs players ripped Tomlin as they were beaten up because of too many full contact practices. Max Starks had a very honest take, saying they lost to the Jaguars because a rookie head coach wore his own team down.
An 8-8 team with an O line that was headed into the crapper without any serviceable backups, perhaps their best linebacker jumping ship (or talking his way off the ship), and their best O-line player literally working against the coaching staff when he was on the field because he was pissed off Wisenhut didn't get the position.

Yes, Tomlin made a rookie mistake and worked them too hard. What many people forget is that he learned from his mistake. Note how many players, especially veterans are forced to take days off during camp now.

[Born2Steel]

10 years. 5 division championships. 7 playoff appearances. 2 AFCCGs. 1 SB championship. 0 losing seasons. .644 win %.

Strengths? Damn good coach.

Weaknesses? Missed the playoffs 3 times.

[fansince'76]

Yes, Tomlin made a rookie mistake and worked them too hard. What many people forget is that he learned from his mistake. Note how many players, especially veterans are forced to take days off during camp now.

And how many fans nowadays refer to Steelers TC as "Camp Cupcake."

Is Tomlin the best? Nope. Is he better than most of the coaches in the league at the moment? Absolutely.

What I really want to see is how he compensates for Ben's retirement, which is more than likely coming fairly soon.

[teegre]

Weaknesses? Missed the playoffs 3 times.

And, in each of those three seasons, it came down to the final weekend... specifically, Succop missing a gimme FG.

[Born2Steel]

And, in each of those three seasons, it came down to the final weekend... specifically, Succop missing a gimme FG.

Exactly. I think people honestly believe we would win every single game if we had better coaching. Those other teams in the league are just for show.

[polamalubeast]

And, in each of those three seasons, it came down to the final weekend... specifically, Succop missing a gimme FG.



I don't want to be negative, but 2009 was a failure and 2012, the steelers were eliminated after our defeat against the Bengals in week 16.

Still a very good coach.

[tube517]

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Weakness: Shorter than Bill Cowher

[Born2Steel]

Judge: "How do you measure yourself with other golfers?"

Ty: "By height."

[43Hitman]

Bill is closer in the photo, therefore he looks bigger. :chuckle:

[pczach]

Bill is closer in the photo, therefore he looks bigger. :chuckle:

Obviously!

[tube517]

Bill is closer in the photo, therefore he looks bigger. :chuckle:
I don't subscribe to that Hocus pocus [emoji3]

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[steel striker]

Like many have mentioned Tomlin not the best coach but, he is better than most. He gambles a little too much for my liking and, it seems we don't have much of a backup plan after Ben. Still Tomlin is a pretty good coach and, he needs to beat the cheats when it counts hopefully this year in the playoffs.

[teegre]

I don't want to be negative, but 2009 was a failure

That was an strange season. The Steelers were 6-2, the #1 seed, and then they suffered 5 very odd losses in a row... three in particular:

Bengals: Sweed drops the game-winning TD with seconds remaining. (That was the final straw that broke his psyche.)

Raidahs: Joe Burnett drops a game-clinching INT. A few plays later, the Raidahs score the game-winning TD.

Browns: Arians refuses to run the ball in 100mph winds. :doh:

Even despite those five horrible losses, the Steelers still had a legitimate chance to make the playoffs in the final weekend. (But, just like in those three games, it simply didn't go our way.)