Top Tight Ends Left In Free Agency

[Shoes]

Very slim pickings.




With the release of Ladarius Green, Steelers’ Nation has understandably turned their attention to any options on the free agent market. That in mind, let’s view the top options out there.


Gary Barnidge – Released by the Cleveland Browns after they drafted David Njoku in the first round. He caught 55 passes for the Browns last year but he clearly regressed: His average dropped from 13.2 to 11.1 from the year prior and touchdowns had a more severe fall, nine to two. Barnidge turns 32 in late September. 22 career receptions and three touchdowns in his career against the Steelers.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/05/top-tight-ends-left-free-agency/ (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/05/top-tight-ends-left-free-agency/)

[86WARD]

Barnidge should've been signed by the Steelers unless there's something wrong with him...but what would their medical team know about that...too soon?

[Mojouw]

I think I can't get on board with the whole "OMG!!!! What are we going to DO! How could this happen!!!" panic that seems to be bubbling below the surface on Steelers internet sites.

If we take as fact that the team anticipated Greg Warren's failed physical. Why do we assume they did not with Green?

That guy they just picked up yesterday seems to compare favorably to in size, speed, and production to Sheehan, who went in the third round. Kittle can block like a tackle, but if you don't light the Big 10 on fire catching the ball, you aren't going to suddenly get better at in the NFL. I mean James is a Big 10 TE with better production as a receiver than Kittle and we are talking about replacing him. See where that logic breaks down? Kittle is basically Matt Spaeth 2.0. Meh. I've seen that movie before and it was underwhelming and kinda boring.

Super Roku Box, Engram, and Everett are all cover you eyes bad at blocking. So they have to be evaluated as super sized WR's because that is what they would be doing. If that is the case, may I introduce you to Jujubee and the Canaanite. Both are big bodied targets that are actual WRs.

Does it suck that Green's brains are so scrambled that they had to cut him? Absolutely. Is anyone currently on the roster a downgrade at this point? Yup.

Is this some sort of disaster that doesn't seem to have a plan? Not sure I can go that far. If no one "gameplanned" out what the team would do if they had to cut Green -- then everyone not named "Rooney" needs a new job.

[86WARD]

Not to mention they did pretty well with the same grouping last season...people hate on James a lot but the guys not terrible by any means. I don't remember seeing him drop many passes or fumble anything...

[lipps83]

I am a James fan. Cutting Green is a non-factor as he wasn't much of a part of the team last year anyway.

Oh wells.....

[st33lersguy]

They can manage with James, they did last year, it's just he could stand to be upgraded, especially in the blocking department, and it's troubling that they seemed to be indicating confidence in Green a short time ago and seemed to plan for Green being available

[BurghBoy412]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/platform/amp/nfl-pittsburgh-steelers-news/2016/4/8/11392328/steelers-rb-deangelo-williams-and-browns-te-gary-barnidge-prove

[tube517]

Looking at the remaining FA TEs, I'd stick w/James and X-man. Grimble didn't look too bad as a 2nd TE when healthy. Outlaw can make 1st downs and red zone targets (but no YAC)and maybe that's all we need if (BIG IF) the other WR's ste up.

MB/Coates and Rogers along w/Juju all need to step their ass up and help AB out.

[Shoes]

I think I can't get on board with the whole "OMG!!!! What are we going to DO! How could this happen!!!" panic that seems to be bubbling below the surface on Steelers internet sites.

If we take as fact that the team anticipated Greg Warren's failed physical. Why do we assume they did not with Green?

That guy they just picked up yesterday seems to compare favorably to in size, speed, and production to Sheehan, who went in the third round. Kittle can block like a tackle, but if you don't light the Big 10 on fire catching the ball, you aren't going to suddenly get better at in the NFL. I mean James is a Big 10 TE with better production as a receiver than Kittle and we are talking about replacing him. See where that logic breaks down? Kittle is basically Matt Spaeth 2.0. Meh. I've seen that movie before and it was underwhelming and kinda boring.

Super Roku Box, Engram, and Everett are all cover you eyes bad at blocking. So they have to be evaluated as super sized WR's because that is what they would be doing. If that is the case, may I introduce you to Jujubee and the Canaanite. Both are big bodied targets that are actual WRs.

Does it suck that Green's brains are so scrambled that they had to cut him? Absolutely. Is anyone currently on the roster a downgrade at this point? Yup.

Is this some sort of disaster that doesn't seem to have a plan? Not sure I can go that far. If no one "gameplanned" out what the team would do if they had to cut Green -- then everyone not named "Rooney" needs a new job.

I disagree, Iowa is a TE blocking school and Kittle wasn't used much as a receiver. He had some of the best numbers at the combine in the TE class, running a 4.5 forty. I think Kittle will turn into a far better TE than James or Spaeth. I'll be watching closely.

[RunNGun]

I think I can't get on board with the whole "OMG!!!! What are we going to DO! How could this happen!!!" panic that seems to be bubbling below the surface on Steelers internet sites.

If we take as fact that the team anticipated Greg Warren's failed physical. Why do we assume they did not with Green?

That guy they just picked up yesterday seems to compare favorably to in size, speed, and production to Sheehan, who went in the third round. Kittle can block like a tackle, but if you don't light the Big 10 on fire catching the ball, you aren't going to suddenly get better at in the NFL. I mean James is a Big 10 TE with better production as a receiver than Kittle and we are talking about replacing him. See where that logic breaks down? Kittle is basically Matt Spaeth 2.0. Meh. I've seen that movie before and it was underwhelming and kinda boring.

Super Roku Box, Engram, and Everett are all cover you eyes bad at blocking. So they have to be evaluated as super sized WR's because that is what they would be doing. If that is the case, may I introduce you to Jujubee and the Canaanite. Both are big bodied targets that are actual WRs.

Does it suck that Green's brains are so scrambled that they had to cut him? Absolutely. Is anyone currently on the roster a downgrade at this point? Yup.

Is this some sort of disaster that doesn't seem to have a plan? Not sure I can go that far. If no one "gameplanned" out what the team would do if they had to cut Green -- then everyone not named "Rooney" needs a new job.

Sheehan was drafted in the second round, 13th pick. I had been pimping Sheehan before the draft but knew he would be gone by our 2nd pick. The TE we just picked up doesn't resemble Sheehan in the slightest besides maybe size.
They are obviously counting on James to be the guy. However, I remember hearing Ben wanted a TE in the draft, so that tells me he's not confident with what we have on the roster, which is alarming. Having a reliable tight end is really taken for granted. I don't see us not having one as being catastrophic, but with one, we would be that more dangerous.

[GBMelBlount]

We have the number 2 or 3 ranked offense in the NFL and picked up JuJu in round 2.

So while I wanted a TE in the first (Roku Sudoku), I am less concerned about a TE now, because we upgraded our WR corp.

Now, finding the last few pieces to a formidable defense is what I am most excited about.

[86WARD]

I disagree, Iowa is a TE blocking school and Kittle wasn't used much as a receiver. He had some of the best numbers at the combine in the TE class, running a 4.5 forty. I think Kittle will turn into a far better TE than James or Spaeth. I'll be watching closely.

If he didn't get the ball thrown to him a lot and was mainly a blocker then the 4.5 40 is kinda irrelevant.

Game tape >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Combune numbers.

[Shoes]

If he didn't get the ball thrown to him a lot and was mainly a blocker then the 4.5 40 is kinda irrelevant.

Game tape >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Combune numbers.

Well he's in the NFL now, so its very relevant.

[teegre]

I'll go with The Outlaw.

He's not not my favorite, but with AB, Bryant, Bell, & JuJu Bee on the field, the number of balls left to go to the TE won't really make much difference.

[RunNGun]

I'll go with The Outlaw.

He's not not my favorite, but with AB, Bryant, Bell, & JuJu Bee on the field, the number of balls left to go to the TE won't really make much difference.

In terms of stats, I agree. But the reliable checkdown or deep threat down the middle is a huge asset and we don't have a guy who can do that on a consistent basis. I do have faith in the Outlaw and believe he could provide some of what Heath gave us, but it's definitely the weakest link of the offense.

[Craic]

I'll go with The Outlaw.

He's not not my favorite, but with AB, Bryant, Bell, & JuJu Bee on the field, the number of balls left to go to the TE won't really make much difference.
That's true, but the problem is that a TE has two jobs, and catching is James's better job by a far cry over blocking. So, if we aren't using him much for catching the ball, then he's not going to be worth that much to us unless he really learns how to block between now and September.

[86WARD]

In terms of stats, I agree. But the reliable checkdown or deep threat down the middle is a huge asset and we don't have a guy who can do that on a consistent basis. I do have faith in the Outlaw and believe he could provide some of what Heath gave us, but it's definitely the weakest link of the offense.

Have they ever had that?

[Steeldude]

I never recognized Green as ever being on the team.

[Count Steeler]

This may keep Haley from running his 3 TD sets.

:couch:

[teegre]

In terms of stats, I agree. But the reliable checkdown or deep threat down the middle is a huge asset and we don't have a guy who can do that on a consistent basis. I do have faith in the Outlaw and believe he could provide some of what Heath gave us, but it's definitely the weakest link of the offense.

Don't me wrong. I'd love to have an upgrade at TE; it's the weakest link on the offensive side of the ball.

But, replacing James with someone from this draft would have been a lateral move.

James 65
Drafted TE 70???

Whereas, drafting JuJu (or Sutton) upgrades both of those positions.

JuJu 85
Sutton 80

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That's true, but the problem is that a TE has two jobs, and catching is James's better job by a far cry over blocking. So, if we aren't using him much for catching the ball, then he's not going to be worth that much to us unless he really learns how to block between now and September.

True

That said, if he goes out into the seam, he takes a LB with him (one less guy in the box for Bell to deal with).

[Born2Steel]

I was not counting on much from Green anyway. This just means XGrimble earns a spot on the 53 if he shows anything in camp. This changes nothing as far as my outlook for this season. Just say no to FAs.

[Mojouw]

Sheehan was drafted in the second round, 13th pick. I had been pimping Sheehan before the draft but knew he would be gone by our 2nd pick. The TE we just picked up doesn't resemble Sheehan in the slightest besides maybe size.
They are obviously counting on James to be the guy. However, I remember hearing Ben wanted a TE in the draft, so that tells me he's not confident with what we have on the roster, which is alarming. Having a reliable tight end is really taken for granted. I don't see us not having one as being catastrophic, but with one, we would be that more dangerous.

They are similar in size. They put up almost identical metrics.

Shaheen -- https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/adam-shaheen

Odom -- 6’7/6 251 pounds at his Pro Day. There, he ran a respectable 4.79 and jumped 33 inches in the vertical, plus a 7.27 three cone. (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/05/steelers-invite-small-school-tight-end-rookie-minicamp/)

Let's compare breakdowns and we can see both have strong questions about their ability to succeed as #1 TE at the NFL level - http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-player-profiles-ashland-te-adam-shaheen/ and http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/05/2017-udfa-reports-fordham-te-phazahn-odom/ (used these two because they are written by the same observer).

One cost you a 2nd round pick! The other cost you a bag of kicking tees. That was my point. If I'm going to take a gamble on a TE from lower level of competition that needs to be "caoched up" -- I certainly would rather do it w/out spending a high draft pick.

[Mojouw]

I disagree, Iowa is a TE blocking school and Kittle wasn't used much as a receiver. He had some of the best numbers at the combine in the TE class, running a 4.5 forty. I think Kittle will turn into a far better TE than James or Spaeth. I'll be watching closely.

You may be right and aspects of Kittle's tape are extremely impressive. I just don't see it happening. Of course we may never know because he got drafted by a crap franchise with no QB and the hope that the younger Shannahan can use magic pixie dust to fix the team.

[RunNGun]

Have they ever had that?

They wanted Green to be the guy to stretch the middle of the field with his speed. So we had it, it just didn't work out. James is nothing more than a checkdown with his lack of speed and Ben doesn't trust him. IMO, with the TE position you want to have a guy who can get over the top of LBs and stretch the middle of the field, or a guy who can block and be a reliable check down. Right now, we have neither.

[RunNGun]

Don't me wrong. I'd love to have an upgrade at TE; it's the weakest link on the offensive side of the ball.

But, replacing James with someone from this draft would have been a lateral move.

James 65
Drafted TE 70???

Whereas, drafting JuJu (or Sutton) upgrades both of those positions.

JuJu 85
Sutton 80

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True

That said, if he goes out into the seam, he takes a LB with him (one less guy in the box for Bell to deal with).

I agree 100%. There wasn't a guy there after our first pick that was a sure fire upgrade with what we already have. There was really nothing the Steelers could do to upgrade the position unless they took a TE with their first pick, which would have been a reach IMO.

[RunNGun]

They are similar in size. They put up almost identical metrics.

Shaheen -- https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/adam-shaheen

Odom -- 6’7/6 251 pounds at his Pro Day. There, he ran a respectable 4.79 and jumped 33 inches in the vertical, plus a 7.27 three cone. (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/05/steelers-invite-small-school-tight-end-rookie-minicamp/)

Let's compare breakdowns and we can see both have strong questions about their ability to succeed as #1 TE at the NFL level - http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/04/2017-nfl-draft-player-profiles-ashland-te-adam-shaheen/ and http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/05/2017-udfa-reports-fordham-te-phazahn-odom/ (used these two because they are written by the same observer).

One cost you a 2nd round pick! The other cost you a bag of kicking tees. That was my point. If I'm going to take a gamble on a TE from lower level of competition that needs to be "caoched up" -- I certainly would rather do it w/out spending a high draft pick.

Shaheen has him by 20 pounds and runs more fluidly, if that makes sense. Shaheen also dominated his competition, while Odom tallied a whopping 14 catches last season. There is no comparison other than similar pro days. Turn the film on.

[Mojouw]

Shaheen has him by 20 pounds and runs more fluidly, if that makes sense. Shaheen also dominated his competition, while Odom tallied a whopping 14 catches last season. There is no comparison other than similar pro days. Turn the film on.

I'm not saying that Odom = Shaheen. What I'm wondering is how much better is Shaheen than Odom? If Shaheen is a 7/10 and Odom is a 4/10 what does that gap really mean in terms of NFL ability? Is it really that much?

Plus it isn't like Shaheen is ready to buckle his chinstrap and dominate. He needs work on routes, separation, quickness, blocking. Odom needs work too, but he didn't cost anything.

[86WARD]

They wanted Green to be the guy to stretch the middle of the field with his speed. So we had it, it just didn't work out. James is nothing more than a checkdown with his lack of speed and Ben doesn't trust him. IMO, with the TE position you want to have a guy who can get over the top of LBs and stretch the middle of the field, or a guy who can block and be a reliable check down. Right now, we have neither.

I can't recall them ever having that. Heath wasn't a burner. And I don't think it's fair at all to say Ben doesn't trust James. Where do you get that?

James has been decent. If there's an area on the offense that needs to be upgraded, it's TE. However, the current TE situation isn't going to prevent this team from winning a championship...unless of course one of them pulls a "Jackie Smith"

[GBMelBlount]

I think James is serviceable.

He had 338 yards and 3 TD's splitting time with Green.

and having Bryant and JuJu as the #2 and #3 receivers, he may get more open.

I predict 500 - 600 yards and 5 TD's for the Outlaw this year, which is just a little lower than Heath averaged in his career.

Hope his blocking improves.

[Craic]

I can't remember why, now, but I was somewhat impressed with Grimble's play last year. I can't remember if it was catching, blocking, or something else, but he caught my eye a few times for good plays and never caught my eye for bad plays. I'm hoping he can step up to be a decent TE for us.

[tube517]

I can't recall them ever having that. Heath wasn't a burner. And I don't think it's fair at all to say Ben doesn't trust James. Where do you get that?

James has been decent. If there's an area on the offense that needs to be upgraded, it's TE. However, the current TE situation isn't going to prevent this team from winning a championship...unless of course one of them pulls a "Jackie Smith"

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/%5Bcurrent-date%3Acustom%3AY%5D/%5Bcurrent-date%3Acustom%3Am%5D/%5Bcurrent-date%3Acustom%3Ad%5D/jackie-smith-drop-inline.jpg

[RunNGun]

I'm not saying that Odom = Shaheen. What I'm wondering is how much better is Shaheen than Odom? If Shaheen is a 7/10 and Odom is a 4/10 what does that gap really mean in terms of NFL ability? Is it really that much?

Plus it isn't like Shaheen is ready to buckle his chinstrap and dominate. He needs work on routes, separation, quickness, blocking. Odom needs work too, but he didn't cost anything.

Odom is obviously worth a look with his size and measurables, but I could easily see him being amongst the first cuts. He may show enough to get on the practice squad, but IMO, it's a long shot. My opinion is probably biased on Shaheen because I really wanted him to be a Steeler and love the way he plays. You're right though, he's definitely no guarantee.

[RunNGun]

I can't recall them ever having that. Heath wasn't a burner. And I don't think it's fair at all to say Ben doesn't trust James. Where do you get that?

James has been decent. If there's an area on the offense that needs to be upgraded, it's TE. However, the current TE situation isn't going to prevent this team from winning a championship...unless of course one of them pulls a "Jackie Smith"

Eric Green was probably the closest thing to a burner the Steelers have had at TE. My point is, teams usually have a starting TE that either stretches the field in the passing game, or a starting TE who can block in the running game. I guess time will tell whether or not James has improved his blocking. He's by all means an adequate TE who can get the job done, but he's not spectacular.

I remember reading somewhere Ben wanted a TE in the draft. I don't recall where I read it, but google will probably provide you with an answer. Could have just been rumors, but I wouldn't blame him for wanting an upgrade.

Found the article
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.espn.com/blog/nfl/rumors/post/_/id/31578/rumor-central-ben-roethlisberger-wants-a-new-tight-end&ved=0ahUKEwjxkIvH6f3TAhVo9YMKHQSyChsQFggcMAA&usg=AFQjCNFXrp8MIm_HC-t89oNLsqn5xET7Og&sig2=XgoEGK7QYict26B9zxZIfQ

[DesertSteel]

In terms of stats, I agree. But the reliable checkdown or deep threat down the middle is a huge asset and we don't have a guy who can do that on a consistent basis. I do have faith in the Outlaw and believe he could provide some of what Heath gave us, but it's definitely the weakest link of the offense.
Definitely didn't look that way in the playoffs last year.

[GBMelBlount]

(Jesse James) Definitely didn't look that way in the playoffs last year.

James' 11 receptions out of 15 targets and 137 yards / 12.5 ypc in the playoffs is about what you might expect from Heath performance-wise.

Outlaw is still young and developing so it is possible he could continue improving.

On a side note I have noticed when he runs straight routes he tends to drift right. It could be an ear thing...

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/2979590.png&w=350&h=254

[teegre]

On a side note I have noticed when he runs straight routes he tends to drift right. It could be an ear thing...

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/2979590.png&w=350&h=254

BWAHAHAHA!!! :toofunny:

I will never not see that again.

[steel striker]

I like James let's see what he does this year and, I think he will keep getting better. Alot of Steeler fans need to understand that players like Troy P & Heath Miller & Ben Roethlisberger don't come around very often like every 20-30 years.

[43Hitman]

James' 11 receptions out of 15 targets and 137 yards / 12.5 ypc in the playoffs is about what you might expect from Heath performance-wise.

Outlaw is still young and developing so it is possible he could continue improving.

On a side note I have noticed when he runs straight routes he tends to drift right. It could be an ear thing...

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/2979590.png&w=350&h=254Holy smokes that's funny! Now I'll be watching for him to veer right after all of his receptions.:toofunny:

[Born2Steel]

Those ears are unfortunate.

[st33lersguy]

James is ok, he is not anything special. And while they can win with him and did last year, he seems more like a no. 2 TE and could be upgraded by any TE who can gain yards after the catch and/or can block

[GBMelBlount]

Those ears are unfortunate.

Maybe he was just having a bad ear day.

[st33lersguy]

My biggest problem is that them not addressing TE seemed to be based on them thinking Green would be available and that they didn't take into account enough that he had a high risk of not being available

[Bluecoat96]

Maybe he was just having a bad ear day.
While not on the same level as Brian Baldinger's jacked up finger, I now can't help but stare. It reminds me of the scene with Fred Savage as the "mole" in Austin Powers.

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[GBMelBlount]

My biggest problem is that them not addressing TE seemed to be based on them thinking Green would be available and that they didn't take into account enough that he had a high risk of not being available

Who do you think they should have grabbed, Kittle in the 4th?

I guess I could see that, however I think JuJu as a #2 or #3 could improve our offense as much as the Kittle upgrade over James or Grimble.

[BlackAndGold]

If Barnidge would take a 1 year deal worth about $1mil. I hope they take a look.

He's a 10 year vet, I'm sure he would be interested in playing for a contender after playing with Cleveland for 4 seasons.

[DesertSteel]

James' 11 receptions out of 15 targets and 137 yards / 12.5 ypc in the playoffs is about what you might expect from Heath performance-wise.

Outlaw is still young and developing so it is possible he could continue improving.

On a side note I have noticed when he runs straight routes he tends to drift right. It could be an ear thing...

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nfl/players/full/2979590.png&w=350&h=254

Clearly slept on one side growing up, to the exclusion of the other.

[Dwinsgames]

I do believe they will run a lot of 10 personnel formations ( 4 wide and 1 RB no TE ) we have not done much of that in the past but the current roster configuration points to that IMO .

they have All world WR A.B. who is the clear #1 , Bryant who truly is a #1 WR in his own right ( when he can stay on the field ) and potentially the biggest game changer at the Position in the league.

Rogers who proved capable as a rookie and should take a step up in year 2 and they drafted a tough guy WR in JuJu in the 2nd round who can block , catch and make yards after the catch with physicality ( TE like to some degree but with the size and speed of a WR )

they are going to want all 4 of those guys on the field for a significant number of snaps IMO

do you take arguably the best RB in the league off the field to add a subpar TE to the above grouping ? I wouldn't because it does nothing for you and only tips your hand with the RB on the field they still have to respect the run or get killed by it .... take him off the field and they can pin their ears back and rush the passer

[tube517]

I do believe they will run a lot of 10 personnel formations ( 4 wide and 1 RB no TE ) we have not done much of that in the past but the current roster configuration points to that IMO .

they have All world WR A.B. who is the clear #1 , Bryant who truly is a #1 WR in his own right ( when he can stay on the field ) and potentially the biggest game changer at the Position in the league.

Rogers who proved capable as a rookie and should take a step up in year 2 and they drafted a tough guy WR in JuJu in the 2nd round who can block , catch and make yards after the catch with physicality ( TE like to some degree but with the size and speed of a WR )

they are going to want all 4 of those guys on the field for a significant number of snaps IMO

do you take arguably the best RB in the league off the field to add a subpar TE to the above grouping ? I wouldn't because it does nothing for you and only tips your hand with the RB on the field they still have to respect the run or get killed by it .... take him off the field and they can pin their ears back and rush the passer


Is it September yet?

I'd like to see Edward ScissorCoates out there instead of Rogers (sometimes) stretching the field w/Bryant. If we can get Sept 2016 Coates and 2014-15 Bongtavious on the same field with AB and Jujubee and Bell?

Wow, we can only dream.

[StillCurtains]

This is what I'm saying. This offense is top 5 at the very least WITHOUT a superstar TE. We can get one next year. The problem right now is covering those type of TE's like Gronk. Depth needs to be added to ILB and Safety if at all possible. Does anyone feel good with what we have if Shazier and Davis were to go down? I sure don't!

[polamalubeast]

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[GBMelBlount]

Colon envy?

Seriously though, while it is fun to read and debate this stuff, noone (including Ben imo), will truly believe this until he puts up top 5 numbers.

[FrancoLambert]

I'm hoping Jesse can develop this year into "Heath-Lite." With our other weapons, it would be enough from the TE position.

[st33lersguy]

Top 5 tight end is a major reach

[teegre]

Top 5... in height.

[BlackAndGold]

Top 5 is crazy talk. I doubt JJ will ever become that type of player, can he become a solid starter? Yes I believe he can.

Also, he just turned 23 years old, and continues to get in better shape. I'm fine with JJ as the #1 TE on this team.