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Born2Steel
05-03-2017, 11:54 AM
Chances are, we will be looking to draft a QB in the 2018 NFL Draft. This thread is a place to list your favorites, post weekly stats, Game clips, of the 2018 QB class. This way we can all share in the info all season, and not have to try to cram during predraft season.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/top-prospects-2018-nfl-draft-020205451.html

Here's a beginning list of some of the top rated as of May, 2017.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2018/QB

BurghBoy412
05-03-2017, 12:39 PM
Josh Dobbs is the future :)

Born2Steel
05-03-2017, 07:00 PM
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-spring-1-130-starting-quarterback-rankings-2017

Born2Steel
05-05-2017, 02:34 PM
Daniel Jeremiah with some early leaders for the QB draft board.

Who's next in CFB pipeline? After the final Path to the Draft episode of the season airs on Friday (6 p.m. ET on NFL Network), I'll take some time to re-charge my batteries before beginning to look at some of the top college football players in the month of June. Here are five of the players I'll be studying this summer:

USC QB Sam Darnold: I've seen Darnold play live several times (including an epic performance in last season's Rose Bowl) and he's impressive. His timing, anticipation and accuracy stood out to me. I can't wait to dig in and really study his game.

Wyoming QB Josh Allen: I've seen Allen play live and I've had the chance to visit with him in the offseason. Based on those exposures, it's easy to appreciate his size, arm strength and athletic ability. He will be in the conversation to be the top quarterback at the collegiate level next fall.

UCLA QB Josh Rosen: I saw Rosen play live in 2015, but I didn't get a chance to see him last fall before he suffered a season-ending injury. He has a beautiful throwing motion and the ball jumps out of his hand. I'll go back and study tape from both his freshman and sophomore seasons over the summer.

Follow Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter @MoveTheSticks (http://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks).

Born2Steel
05-05-2017, 03:51 PM
Chad Reuter with some names for the QB watch list.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000806319/article/next-men-up-top-qb-talents-in-cfb-pipeline-for-2017

GBMelBlount
05-05-2017, 05:24 PM
So there are currently 4 estimated "elite" quarterbacks in next years draft?

Is this crop comparable to 2004 and is it likely we will have to trade up into the first half of the first round to grab one?

DesertSteel
05-05-2017, 09:39 PM
So there are currently 4 estimated "elite" quarterbacks in next years draft?

Is this crop comparable to 2004 and is it likely we will have to trade up into the first half of the first round to grab one?
Apparently we need to tank the season so we can get one of these guys.

Born2Steel
05-06-2017, 11:55 AM
Apparently we need to tank the season so we can get one of these guys.

Not at all. These names that are getting put out there now are not the end of it all. I've heard this class of QBs being compared to 1984's class.(whenever the Marino/Elway/Kelly class was, I think '83/'84) Anyway, there will be BETTER QBs in the 2018 draft, and more of them. I've personally got a couple guys I'm watching that I haven't seen on anyone's top prospect list yet. Not professionally, of course, just as a hobby of mine.

Born2Steel
07-20-2017, 08:29 PM
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2017-07-19/college-football-2017-davey-obrien-award-watch-list

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http://247sports.com/player/riley-ferguson-2035

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http://gotigersgo.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4286

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http://247sports.com/Player/Quinton-Flowers-9276#rushing

BurghBoy412
07-20-2017, 08:38 PM
You should take a look at Bryan Schor. He led James Madison to the FCS title last year 6'2" 215. He's also Pennsylvania born and bred. http://jmusports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=11842

BurghBoy412
09-03-2017, 09:41 AM
Week 1 stats. I'm only going to post guys I think they'll have a shot at drafting.

Baker Mayfield , OU vs. UTEP 19/20 329 yds 3 td 0 int

Jake Browning , Wash vs. Rutgers 17/30 284 yds 2 td 0 int

Luke Falk , Wash St. vs. Montana St. 33/39 311 yds 3 td 0 int

Jarrett Stidham , Auburn vs. GA Southern 14/24 185 yds 2 td 1 int

Mike White , W. Ken vs. E. Ken 20/31 264 yds 1 td 0 int

Bryan Schor , James Madison vs. ECU 15/22 192 yds 1 td 1 int

Wilton Speight, Mich vs. FLA 11/25 181 yds 1 td 2 int

Nick Fitzgerald , Miss St. vs. CHSO 16/29 239 yds 2 td 0 int

86WARD
09-03-2017, 09:46 AM
You should post some of the Top guys too just so you can see the comparison...

Born2Steel
09-03-2017, 09:49 AM
My guy Riley Ferguson played in tropical storm Harvey this week. Not many passes attempted in that deluge. But, they rushed for 319 yards against one of the worst rush defenses last season. So really didn't need to throw the ball this week.

Side note: Sophomore WR Tony Pollard returned his 3rd career KR for a TD on the opening kick of the 2nd half. Steelers do need a KR at this time too.

Born2Steel
09-03-2017, 09:57 AM
Also: Mason Rudolph OK State. 20 of 24. 303 yards. 3 TDs, 0 INTs and 1 rushing TD vs Tulsa. Rudolph is also 6'5" and 230lbs.

BurghBoy412
09-03-2017, 11:09 AM
The guy I really want.
Lamar Jackson vs. Purdue
30/46 378 yds 2 td 0 int
21 rush 107 yds

BurghBoy412
09-03-2017, 10:15 PM
Pretty sure Rosen got himself a spot in the top 5 picks tonight. WOW!

Born2Steel
09-03-2017, 10:42 PM
I may make the trip to see Rosen vs Ferguson in 2 weeks. Should be a classic.

BurghBoy412
09-03-2017, 11:00 PM
I may make the trip to see Rosen vs Ferguson in 2 weeks. Should be a classic.Nice!

SteelerCountry58
09-06-2017, 06:03 PM
Really like Luke Falk from Washington State, he's big,has a rifle arm and plays in a system that's very pro ready. Plus he is a more reasonable pick without giving up the farm.

BurghBoy412
09-09-2017, 12:19 PM
Wilton Speight has some really bad receivers. Either that or Cincinnati has one helluva secondary.

BurghBoy412
09-09-2017, 01:31 PM
You guys got me. Speight is Bad. Just plain BAD

Bluecoat96
09-09-2017, 01:52 PM
Wilton Speight has some really bad receivers. Either that or Cincinnati has one helluva secondary.They do have some very young receivers. I believe they may be starting a true freshman.

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BurghBoy412
09-09-2017, 11:04 PM
Week 2

Lamar Jackson vs UNC 25/39 393 3 td 0 int 19 rush 132 3td

Mason Rudolph vs SALA 25/38 335 3 td 0 int

Josh Rosen vs Hawii 22/25 329 5 td 0 int

Jarrett Stidham vs Clemson 13/24 79 0 td 0 int

Baker Mayfield vs OSU 27/35 386 3 td 0 int

Sam Darnold vs Stanford 21/26 316 4 td 2 int

Bryan Schor vs ETSU 25/33 304 5 td 1 int

QB class 2018 looking strong! Sorry no Luke Falk game isn't over yet.

Born2Steel
09-09-2017, 11:46 PM
I watched OU/OSU. Mayfield had a very good game. Looked very sharp throwing the ball. Not sure he ever took a snap from under center. Which seems to be a big deal in scouting circles.
Switched to the end of USC/Stan. Darnold apparently played like a champ and got game MVP. Didn't actually watch him play much but again, no snaps from under center.
I'll get to see Rosen and Ferguson up close next week. Looking forward to that.

Born2Steel
09-15-2017, 08:08 AM
My guy Riley Ferguson played in tropical storm Harvey this week. Not many passes attempted in that deluge. But, they rushed for 319 yards against one of the worst rush defenses last season. So really didn't need to throw the ball this week.

Side note: Sophomore WR Tony Pollard returned his 3rd career KR for a TD on the opening kick of the 2nd half. Steelers do need a KR at this time too.

Get to know this guy's name.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blue-collar-blue-chip-memphis-qb-riley-ferguson-went-washing-fences-nfl-prospect-015013970.html


I recommend everyone to watch this game.

BurghBoy412
09-16-2017, 10:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXIBxJSbUAAFound a video of my guy Bryan Schor. From the 2016-17 FCS championship game. Some really good throws and a few bad ones. Not his best game felt like he pressed at times. I have no doubt this guy could play at the next level.

Riley Ferguson throws a great deep ball!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWkpRBMhes

43Hitman
09-16-2017, 02:33 PM
I was watching the UCLA vs. Memphis game. Both of the QB's look pretty darn good. Ferguson isn't as polished as Rosen is though.

Born2Steel
09-16-2017, 03:12 PM
Riley Ferguson 23/38, 398 yards, 6TDs, 1INT

Josh Rosen 34/56, 463 yards, 4TDs, 2INTs

Great back and forth game, for those that didn't get to see it. Mem D forced Rosen to short passes mostly. Rosen was accurate as hell. Had some drops. all in all looked great. Ferguson put on an air show. Accurate ball placement as well. I would take either of these guys.

Born2Steel
09-16-2017, 03:23 PM
Mason Rudolph vs Pitt today... 23/32, 497 yards, 5TDs, 1INT

BurghBoy412
09-16-2017, 06:21 PM
It'll be interesting to see how well Lamar Jackson does against a punishing Clemson D-line.

BurghBoy412
09-16-2017, 06:25 PM
Riley Ferguson 23/38, 398 yards, 6TDs, 1INT

Josh Rosen 34/56, 463 yards, 4TDs, 2INTs

Great back and forth game, for those that didn't get to see it. Mem D forced Rosen to short passes mostly. Rosen was accurate as hell. Had some drops. all in all looked great. Ferguson put on an air show. Accurate ball placement as well. I would take either of these guys.I'd take either player as well. I got the feeling at points of the game that Rosen became over confident and made some throws he shouldn't have.

I didn't know who Ferguson was until you told me about him. He's definitely got the goods. Poised, good decisions, accurate arm.

DesertSteel
09-16-2017, 06:45 PM
If Trevor Siemian has a big year, Paxton Lynch will be available via trade........ I'd be intrigued. Probably take a 2nd.

Born2Steel
09-16-2017, 06:49 PM
If Trevor Siemian has a big year, Paxton Lynch will be available via trade........ I'd be intrigued. Probably take a 2nd.

Welcome aboard.

BurghBoy412
09-16-2017, 06:54 PM
If Trevor Siemian has a big year, Paxton Lynch will be available via trade........ I'd be intrigued. Probably take a 2nd.I live in Denver. It's pretty much all but said that Lynch is a bust. The local radio guys that attended pre season practices said he is woeful. Accuracy issues, decision making issues, confidence issues. According to the local media out here Lynch does not have what it takes to play in the NFL. He's had 2 years to beat out a 7th round pick in Trevor Siemian and hasn't really come close to taking the job. Then when he went down injured they brought in Brock Osweiler. I think that's all that needs to be said about Lynch.

Born2Steel
09-16-2017, 09:30 PM
I live in Denver. It's pretty much all but said that Lynch is a bust. The local radio guys that attended pre season practices said he is woeful. Accuracy issues, decision making issues, confidence issues. According to the local media out here Lynch does not have what it takes to play in the NFL. He's had 2 years to beat out a 7th round pick in Trevor Siemian and hasn't really come close to taking the job. Then when he went down injured they brought in Brock Osweiler. I think that's all that needs to be said about Lynch.

I think you're wrong about Lynch. He did play well last season when Siemian was out. He has a different guy this year than last. Not every QB succeeds in every system. I think, believe, Lynch could be awesome here in this system. That said, I don't believe that ever happens. He'll probably end up in Jax and make that team an annual contender.

st33lersguy
09-16-2017, 09:35 PM
2nd round pick for Paxton Lynch would be an incredible waste. No thank you

Born2Steel
09-17-2017, 12:28 AM
Baker Mayfield 17/27, 331 yards, 4TDs.

Lamar Jackson 21/42, 317 yards, 3TDs. vs Clemson

Sam Darnold 28/49, 397 yards, 3TDs

Luke Falk 37/49, 396 yards, 6TDs

Quinton Flowers 15/27, 280 yards, 4TDs

DesertSteel
09-17-2017, 12:37 AM
Baker Mayfield 17/27, 331 yards, 4TDs.

Lamar Jackson 21/42, 317 yards, 3TDs. vs Clemson

Sam Darnold 28/49, 397 yards, 3TDs

Luke Falk 37/49, 396 yards, 6TDs

Quinton Flowers 15/27, 280 yards, 4TDs

I saw the first 2 and a half quarters of Lamar Jackson. Forget those garbage time numbers. I saw a woefully inaccurate passer. That guy is NOT an NFL quarterback.

Born2Steel
09-17-2017, 01:25 AM
I saw the first 2 and a half quarters of Lamar Jackson. Forget those garbage time numbers. I saw a woefully inaccurate passer. That guy is NOT an NFL quarterback.

I haven't watched Lou vs Clem yet. 50% completion equals 397 yards and 3 TDs seems impressive at a glance. Will know more tomorrow.

DesertSteel
09-17-2017, 07:19 AM
I haven't watched Lou vs Clem yet. 50% completion equals 397 yards and 3 TDs seems impressive at a glance. Will know more tomorrow.
The game was already out of hand before he put up any numbers.

BurghBoy412
09-17-2017, 07:37 AM
I saw the first 2 and a half quarters of Lamar Jackson. Forget those garbage time numbers. I saw a woefully inaccurate passer. That guy is NOT an NFL quarterback.If you paid close enough attention you would've seen multiple drops by his wideouts that were right in the numbers. Jackson is the only player on that team. Give him capaple NFL players and a good O-line and he'll be amazing. Louisville also has one of the worst Defenses I've seen all year. I understand all the hate for the guy. I mean they keep comparing him to Vick. My question is why the comparisons to Vick? Because he's black? That's about the only way you can compare the two. Like Vick, Jackson is an excellent runner and has a strong arm. That is where the comparison stops. Lamar Jackson is bigger and is a far better passer than Vick ever was. I really wish the media would stop with this comparison. Vick wasn't half the talent that Lamar Jackson is today.

BlackAndGold
09-19-2017, 03:39 PM
Has anyone watch Nick Fitzgerald from Mississippi State?

I'm hearing a lot about him. Having a great season so far.

DesertSteel
09-19-2017, 06:09 PM
If you paid close enough attention you would've seen multiple drops by his wideouts that were right in the numbers. Jackson is the only player on that team. Give him capaple NFL players and a good O-line and he'll be amazing. Louisville also has one of the worst Defenses I've seen all year. I understand all the hate for the guy. I mean they keep comparing him to Vick. My question is why the comparisons to Vick? Because he's black? That's about the only way you can compare the two. Like Vick, Jackson is an excellent runner and has a strong arm. That is where the comparison stops. Lamar Jackson is bigger and is a far better passer than Vick ever was. I really wish the media would stop with this comparison. Vick wasn't half the talent that Lamar Jackson is today.

We simply have two different opinions. I sure hope that the Steelers don't share yours.

Born2Steel
09-19-2017, 07:09 PM
Has anyone watch Nick Fitzgerald from Mississippi State?

I'm hearing a lot about him. Having a great season so far.

Adding another name to the weekly watchlist. :nerd:

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We simply have two different opinions. I sure hope that the Steelers don't share yours.

Going to be lots of differing opinions in this thread. Who's on your top 3-5 currently?

Born2Steel
09-20-2017, 12:48 PM
Has anyone watch Nick Fitzgerald from Mississippi State?

I'm hearing a lot about him. Having a great season so far.

Looking at the highlights only, he plays a lot like Tebow or Prescott. Wouldn't mind seeing more actual game action on him.

Born2Steel
09-24-2017, 10:08 AM
Riley Ferguson 22/36, 288 yards, 2TDs
Mason Rudolph 22/41, 398 yards, 2TDs, 2INTs
Baker Mayfield 13/19, 283 yards, 3TDs
Sam Darnold 26/38, 223 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Josh Rosen 40/60, 480 yards, 3TDs, 2INTs
Luke Falk 36/47, 478 yards, 5TDs
Lamar Jackson 18/22, 299 yards, 2TDs, 2INTs
Nick Fitzgerald 14/29, 83 yards, 2INTs
Quinton Flowers 8/20, 96 yards

Add to this anyone you want to keep stats on for this season. Stats mean little with no context. Take these stats and watch the game film, or look at comp%, sacks, as well as QB ratings. These stats are just the starting point.

Born2Steel
09-30-2017, 01:22 PM
Watching South Florida and East Carolina. Turned it on to watch Quinton Flowers, but Thomas Sirk, QB for ECU has captured my attention. Put this guy on your QB radar(s).

DesertSteel
09-30-2017, 06:33 PM
Darnold doesn't look the part of a #1 overall to me.

BurghBoy412
09-30-2017, 07:05 PM
Ryan Finley NC State 20/33 186 1td
Not the most impressive stat line but he's yet to throw an INT this season. Also has a 155 QBR. So far he's improved on his 135 QBR from 2016.

st33lersguy
10-01-2017, 09:34 AM
If Darnold doesn't improve his play, he should slip from no. 1 overall. Though he could still go no. 1 regardless based off of measurables considering Jameis Winston threw a bunch of interceptions his final year of college and still went no. 1 overall and Bradford missed almost his entire final year and he still went no. 1 overall

86WARD
10-01-2017, 10:21 AM
If the Colts wind up #1, Barkley could be the first pick of the draft...lol

Born2Steel
10-01-2017, 02:20 PM
Riley Ferguson 27/49, 321 yards, 1TD, 3INTs
Mason Rudolph 27/38, 376 yards, 3TDs, 1INT

Sam Darnold 15/29, 164 yards, 1INT
Josh Rosen 28/45, 372 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Luke Falk 34/51, 340 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Lamar Jackson 18/26, 249 yards, 3TDs
Nick Fitzgerald 13/33, 157 yards, 1TD, 2INTs
Quinton Flowers 10/18, 160 yards, 2TDs

BlackAndGold
10-02-2017, 02:02 AM
Just a "meh" draft class.

Josh Allen probably still the most intriguing QB(size/arm).

Nick Fitzgerald hasn't played well ever since I brought his name up for someone to watch lol.

Watching how bad Tennessee has looked should give Josh Dobbs a glowing praise. The Vols are such a bad coached football team and he kept them ranked. Maybe he deserves more of a look at QB?

teegre
10-02-2017, 11:09 PM
If the Colts wind up #1, Barkley could be the first pick of the draft...lol

I'll go a step farther and say that Saquon will be the first overall pick no matter who is drafting #1.

86WARD
10-03-2017, 04:30 PM
I'll go a step farther and say that Saquon will be the first overall pick no matter who is drafting #1.

Really? I would be surprised...

teegre
10-03-2017, 08:02 PM
Really? I would be surprised...

Yep... really.

The kid does stuff stuff that I’ve never seen any other player do.

Obviously, a franchise QB is far more crucial. But, the odds are that the team picking #1 overall will be drafting in the top ten again in 2019. Get the “once a decade” RB now, and get your franchise QB next year.

Born2Steel
10-03-2017, 08:21 PM
Yep... really.

The kid does stuff stuff that I’ve never seen any other player do.

Obviously, a franchise QB is far more crucial. But, the odds are that the team picking #1 overall will be drafting in the top ten again in 2019. Get the “once a decade” RB now, and get your franchise QB next year.

Not sure I see him as that good. Fournette, Henry, Zeke, even Peterson(2007) are all of the same mold. True, best in the draft and a top 5 pick, maybe even #1 overall. But I don't see him as a once a decade RB. Special? Maybe. Not that special. Go back to George, Bettis, or McAllister. Is he THAT guy? I don't see it just yet. Hype machine for now, IMO.

teegre
10-03-2017, 09:56 PM
Not sure I see him as that good. Fournette, Henry, Zeke, even Peterson(2007) are all of the same mold. True, best in the draft and a top 5 pick, maybe even #1 overall. But I don't see him as a once a decade RB. Special? Maybe. Not that special. Go back to George, Bettis, or McAllister. Is he THAT guy? I don't see it just yet. Hype machine for now, IMO.

I don’t know, man. That play along the sideline in the Iowa game, where he is running full speed, stops & lets the defender fly in front of him, and then takes off again before the defender who was behind him could catch up... I’ve never seen ANY player do that.

Plus, he can catch.

And, return kicks.

And, his sweat cures cancer.

43Hitman
10-04-2017, 03:41 AM
I don’t know, man. That play along the sideline in the Iowa game, where he is running full speed, stops & lets the defender fly in front of him, and then takes off again before the defender who was behind him could catch up... I’ve never seen ANY player do that.

Plus, he can catch.

And, return kicks.

And, his sweat cures cancer.
Me either. He is definitely a top 5 pick, no question.

Born2Steel
10-04-2017, 07:54 AM
I don’t know, man. That play along the sideline in the Iowa game, where he is running full speed, stops & lets the defender fly in front of him, and then takes off again before the defender who was behind him could catch up... I’ve never seen ANY player do that.

Plus, he can catch.

And, return kicks.

And, his sweat cures cancer.

Oh I agree, he's extremely talented. My point is there have been a lot of 'SUPERMAN COLLEGE RBs' that have become quite mortal in the NFL. I'm just not ready to that label on him as best of the decade, or generation. He may very well go to a team like the Colts #1 overall. I can absolutely see that. Even Bo and Hershel had so-so NFL careers. For different reasons. Can he be Marcus Allen/Earl Campbell hybrid? That would be the best EVER.

AtlantaDan
10-04-2017, 08:43 AM
Yep... really.

The kid does stuff stuff that I’ve never seen any other player do.

Obviously, a franchise QB is far more crucial. But, the odds are that the team picking #1 overall will be drafting in the top ten again in 2019. Get the “once a decade” RB now, and get your franchise QB next year.

Given the carnage RBs experience (Dalvin Cook the latest) and it being a pass first league, any GM taking Barkley with the first pick would be betting his job on it turning out well - most GMs probably will not make that bet

The franchise tag cost of a RB compared to other positions is an indication RBs are not as valued as they were back in the day



Quarterback: $21.395MM
Running back: $12.377MM
Wide receiver: $15.826MM
Tight end: $9.894MM
Offensive line: $14.444MM
Defensive end: $16.955MM
Defensive tackle: $13.468MM
Linebacker: $14.754MM
Cornerback: $14.297MM
Safety: $10.961MM
Punter/kicker: $4.863MM


https://fansided.com/2017/02/14/nfl-franchise-tag-values-per-position/

86WARD
10-04-2017, 09:17 AM
I think he’s definitely a Top-5 pick. I guess if the Browns, Colts or Giants wound up with the number one pick I could see it but I tend to think the Giants would lean towards a QB to replace Manning. The Chargers have Gordon and I could see them look towards a QB to replace Rivers...

I watch them every week and the things he does week in and week out are ridiculous. I haven’t seen some of the stuff and now he’s throwing TDs too...lol

Born2Steel
10-04-2017, 04:46 PM
For those that like game film of QBs, see what you can find on East Carolina senior Thomas Sirk. Would love some critique on this guy. Has size, speed, arm strength and accuracy. Not sure why he's not in more conversations. His comp% are lower than you want, but is that due to quality of teammates or flaws in his delivery? Curious what the forum thinks about this guy.

Born2Steel
10-05-2017, 11:00 AM
This is almost as big a highlight film for WR#3 Anthony Miller as it is for Riley Ferguson. Both seniors and both will be available in 2018 draft.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=AwrDQ2piVNZZEnAAU577w8QF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsO WdjMmRnBHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZANWSURDMQ--;_ylc=X1MDOTY3ODEzMDcEX3IDMgRhY3RuA2NsawRiY2sDN3Ux M21tMWNsY2szZiUyNmIlM0QzJTI2cyUzRG9zBGNzcmNwdmlkA1 pZUHB1VEV3TGpGX0JIYXdXVlpRYnhBSE56VXVNUUFBQUFDcEdP LjgEZnIDeXNldF9pZV9zeWNfb3JhY2xlBGZyMgNzYS1ncARncH JpZANqblJhVVljdVEzV05UcW5maDFPY3ZBBG10ZXN0aWQDVUkw MSUzRFZJREMxBG5fcnNsdAMzNARuX3N1Z2cDMARvcmlnaW4Ddm lkZW8uc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFz dHJsAwRxc3RybAMyNQRxdWVyeQNyaWxleSBmZXJndXNvbiBoaW dobGlnaHRzBHRfc3RtcAMxNTA3MjE4ODc4BHZ0ZXN0aWQDVklE QzE-?gprid=jnRaUYcuQ3WNTqnfh1OcvA&pvid=ZYPpuTEwLjF_BHawWVZQbxAHNzUuMQAAAACpGO.8&p=riley+ferguson+highlights&ei=UTF-8&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av%2Cm%3Asa&fr=yset_ie_syc_oracle#id=2&vid=84e812d6e02858ac4d49bb08c54cc51b&action=view

Born2Steel
10-05-2017, 11:19 AM
I think you're wrong about Lynch. He did play well last season when Siemian was out. He has a different guy this year than last. Not every QB succeeds in every system. I think, believe, Lynch could be awesome here in this system. That said, I don't believe that ever happens. He'll probably end up in Jax and make that team an annual contender.

Lynch's NFL highlights with Denver from last season. This is with his first OC, before the Broncos changed(Dennison).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5aIOh-4kos&feature=player_embedded

BurghBoy412
10-06-2017, 11:09 AM
Ryan Finley vs Louisville 20/31 367 yds 1td 0 int. My guy still playing at a high level. Still yet to throw an INT this season!!

BurghBoy412
10-06-2017, 01:23 PM
It is my belief that Paxton Lynch is a bust. He had ample opportunity to win a starting job in Denver and didn't even make a competition of things. He doesn't have what it takes between the ears. This is common knowledge here in Denver as reported by those in the media that regularly attended practices. You can have all the physical gifts in the World if you do not have the head for the game it doesn't matter. I'll bet Lynch has a short lived NFL career that doesn't amount to anything worth remembering.

teegre
10-06-2017, 02:22 PM
Ryan Finley vs Louisville 20/31 367 (tel:20/31 367) yds 1td 0 int. My guy still playing at a high level. Still yet to throw an INT this season!!

That was Finley's coming out party.

Born2Steel
10-06-2017, 02:30 PM
It is my belief that Paxton Lynch is a bust. He had ample opportunity to win a starting job in Denver and didn't even make a competition of things. He doesn't have what it takes between the ears. This is common knowledge here in Denver as reported by those in the media that regularly attended practices. You can have all the physical gifts in the World if you do not have the head for the game it doesn't matter. I'll bet Lynch has a short lived NFL career that doesn't amount to anything worth remembering.

I think that may just be the case if he stays in Denver. What I am saying is he has the physical tools to win here. Haley is a perfect OC for him IMO. (Had the Browns selected BB, how would his career look today?)

st33lersguy
10-06-2017, 06:04 PM
It is my belief that Paxton Lynch is a bust. He had ample opportunity to win a starting job in Denver and didn't even make a competition of things. He doesn't have what it takes between the ears. This is common knowledge here in Denver as reported by those in the media that regularly attended practices. You can have all the physical gifts in the World if you do not have the head for the game it doesn't matter. I'll bet Lynch has a short lived NFL career that doesn't amount to anything worth remembering.

And giving up draft picks for him would be insane

BurghBoy412
10-06-2017, 08:46 PM
And giving up draft picks for him would be insane I wouldn't give up a Colin Holba 6th rounder for Lynch.

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That was Finley's coming out party. We'll see what he's got when they play Clemson. November 4th.
Pitt will be his next victim. Oct. 14th

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I think that may just be the case if he stays in Denver. What I am saying is he has the physical tools to win here. Haley is a perfect OC for him IMO. (Had the Browns selected BB, how would his career look today?)
I understand your Memphis bias Brother. Physical skills aside. The word is Lynch doesn't have the mental makeup to play the position in the NFL. Physical skills mean very little at the highest level if you don't have the mental processing ability to read and react to complex NFL defensive schemes.

BurghBoy412
10-06-2017, 08:57 PM
Article about my other "guy" Bryan Schor. http://www.jmu.edu/news/2017/07/28-mm-bryan-schor.shtml

Born2Steel
10-06-2017, 10:02 PM
I wouldn't give up a Colin Holba 6th rounder for Lynch.

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We'll see what he's got when they play Clemson. November 4th.
Pitt will be his next victim. Oct. 14th

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I understand your Memphis bias Brother. Physical skills aside. The word is Lynch doesn't have the mental makeup to play the position in the NFL. Physical skills mean very little at the highest level if you don't have the mental processing ability to read and react to complex NFL defensive schemes.

I love that "Memphis bias" part. I do have that for sure. LOL! That said, I still feel what I feel for the Steelers, my first team. AND I think Lynch would be great here.

BurghBoy412
10-07-2017, 12:04 AM
That was Finley's coming out party.He threw 100 yds to 2 receivers and 99 to another. Gotta love that ball distribution.

Born2Steel
10-07-2017, 09:13 AM
Some more "Memphis bias", LOL.

Riley Ferguson 34/48, 431 yards, 7TDs, 70.8comp%
Anthony Miller 15rec, 224 yards, 4TDs
(Against UCONN, who is terrible this year. Stats pad game. But damn!)
BTW, the senior starting RB made his return last night also. 22 car, 122 yards, 2TDs. Had not played this season due to injury.

Born2Steel
10-08-2017, 10:56 AM
Riley Ferguson 34/48, 431 yards, 7TDs
Baker Mayfield 24/43, 306 yards, 2TDs
Sam Darnold 23/35, 316 yards, 3TDs, 1INT
Ryan Finley 20/31, 367 yards, 1TD
Luke Falk 24/42, 282 yards, 3TDs
Lamar Jackson 26/47, 354 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Thomas Sirk 20/38, 253 yards, 1TD, 1INT

teegre
10-09-2017, 10:49 PM
Riley Ferguson 34/48, 431 yards, 7TDs
Baker Mayfield 24/43, 306 yards, 2TDs
Sam Darnold 23/35, 316 yards, 3TDs, 1INT
Ryan Finley 20/31, 367 yards, 1TD
Luke Falk 24/42, 282 yards, 3TDs
Lamar Jackson 26/47, 354 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Thomas Sirk 20/38, 253 yards, 1TD, 1INT

Rosen (not listed) is going to be the first QB taken. The rest, could go anywhere from 3 to 43.

And, I've seen every one of them mocked to the Steelers, except for Sirk (and Rosen).

Born2Steel
10-10-2017, 07:39 AM
Rosen (not listed) is going to be the first QB taken. The rest, could go anywhere from 3 to 43.

And, I've seen every one of them mocked to the Steelers, except for Sirk (and Rosen).

I think UCLA was on a bye last week. Only reason I don't have Josh Rosen listed. Sirk is new to the list. I watched ECU play USF, and Sirk was making some incredible reads and throws in that game.

teegre
10-10-2017, 09:42 AM
I think UCLA was on a bye last week. Only reason I don't have Josh Rosen listed. Sirk is new to the list. I watched ECU play USF, and Sirk was making some incredible reads and throws in that game.

I figured that you hadn’t listed Rosen, because despite his “attitude”, he is easily the best QB in this draft (i.e. there’s no way that we get him).

Everyone else... it depends on who you ask. Some have Ferguson ranked second; others have him ranked fifth.

Yes. Sirk is one of those guys who will creep up draft boards. The Twitter guys that I follow like him a lot.

st33lersguy
10-11-2017, 07:33 PM
Barring a bunch of QBs returning to school (not sure how many are eligible to return though pretty sure Falk, Mayfield, and Rudolph aren't eligible to return) there should be a 1st round QB worth taking when the Steelers pick in round 1. Next year looks like the year to get one in round 1

teegre
10-13-2017, 06:23 AM
Barring a bunch of QBs returning to school (not sure how many are eligible to return though pretty sure Falk, Mayfield, and Rudolph aren't eligible to return) there should be a 1st round QB worth taking when the Steelers pick in round 1. Next year looks like the year to get one in round 1

There WILL be several QBs available at 32.

The trick is drafting Derek Carr (and not ending up with Geno Smith).

DesertSteel
10-14-2017, 09:37 AM
A team would do well to have a scout who did nothing but evaluate QBs.

st33lersguy
10-14-2017, 09:50 AM
http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/14/report-kevin-colbert-scouts-washington-state-game/

Kevin Colbert was on hand to watch Luke Falk play against Cal. Luke Falk didn't put on a good show though as he threw 5 INTs, and his team lost 37-3 to a team that was unranked

DesertSteel
10-14-2017, 05:36 PM
http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/14/report-kevin-colbert-scouts-washington-state-game/

Kevin Colbert was on hand to watch Luke Falk play against Cal. Luke Falk didn't put on a good show though as he threw 5 INTs, and his team lost 37-3 to a team that was unranked
It was like watching Ben v. the Jags all over again.......

Born2Steel
10-14-2017, 07:15 PM
Baker Mayfield 17/27, 302 yards, 2TDs
Mason Rudolph 19/31, 459 yards, 3TDs
Riley Ferguson 24/40, 279 yards, 3TDs
Luke Falk 28/43, 286 yards, 5INTs
Ryan Finley 14/25, 198 yards, 1TD
Lamar Jackson 19/39, 332 yards, 2TDs
Nick Fitzgerald 19/30, 241 yards, 2TDs
Josh Rosen 20/34, 219 yards, 3INTs
Sam Darnold 27/50, 358 yards, 3TDs
Quinton Flowers 16/29, 184 yards
Jake Browning 17/30, 139 yards
Will Grier 32/41 352 yards, 5TDs

teegre
10-14-2017, 09:59 PM
http://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/14/report-kevin-colbert-scouts-washington-state-game/

Kevin Colbert was on hand to watch Luke Falk play against Cal. Luke Falk didn't put on a good show though as he threw 5 INTs, and his team lost 37-3 to a team that was unranked

Ouch.

That said, BB had a 4 INT game against Iowa.

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Baker Mayfield 17/27, 302 yards, 2TDs
Mason Rudolph 19/31, 459 yards, 3TDs
Riley Ferguson 24/40, 279 yards, 3TDs
Luke Falk 28/43, 286 yards, 5INTs
Ryan Finley 14/25, 198 yards, 1TD
Lamar Jackson 19/39, 332 yards, 2TDs
Nick Fitzgerald 19/30, 241 yards, 2TDs
Josh Rosen
Sam Darnold
Quinton Flowers
Jake Browning

I’m going to throw Will Grier’s name into the ring...

DesertSteel
10-15-2017, 12:02 AM
Yeah I concur on Grier. He's got a very accurate ball. I'm not sure how he translates but he's become intriguing at the least.

Born2Steel
10-15-2017, 08:49 PM
To catch everyone up on WV's Will Grier since this is his first mention.


9/3
@Virginia Tech (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/259/virginia-tech-hokies)
L 31-24 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934497)
31
53
371
58.5
60
3
1
132.2
11
52
4.7
14
0
66.1
77.6


9/9
East Carolina (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/151/east-carolina-pirates)
W 56-20 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934505)
19
25
352
76.0
75
5
0
260.3
4
6
1.5
8
0
99.3
97.0


9/16
Delaware State (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2169/delaware-state-hornets)
W 59-16 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934513)
19
27
304
70.4
62
3
1
194.2
5
22
4.4
20
0
90.1
75.9


9/23
@Kansas (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2305/kansas-jayhawks)
W 56-34 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934514)
25
39
347
64.1
49
2
1
150.6
10
51
5.1
24
2
88.3
81.5


10/7
@TCU (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2628/tcu-horned-frogs)
L 31-24 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934522)
25
45
366
55.6
76
3
1
141.4
8
9
1.1
12
0
67.6
86.4


10/14
Texas Tech (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2641/texas-tech-red-raiders)
W 46-35 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934529)
32
41
352
78.0
32
5
1
185.5
7
-36
-5.1
2
0
83.9
75.3















That's 21TDs to 5INTs in 6 games.

teegre
10-15-2017, 10:25 PM
To catch everyone up on WV's Will Grier since this is his first mention.


9/3
@Virginia Tech (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/259/virginia-tech-hokies)
L 31-24 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934497)
31
53
371
58.5
60
3
1
132.2
11
52
4.7
14
0
66.1
77.6


9/9
East Carolina (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/151/east-carolina-pirates)
W 56-20 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934505)
19
25
352
76.0
75
5
0
260.3
4
6
1.5
8
0
99.3
97.0


9/16
Delaware State (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2169/delaware-state-hornets)
W 59-16 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934513)
19
27
304
70.4
62
3
1
194.2
5
22
4.4
20
0
90.1
75.9


9/23
@Kansas (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2305/kansas-jayhawks)
W 56-34 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934514)
25
39
347
64.1
49
2
1
150.6
10
51
5.1
24
2
88.3
81.5


10/7
@TCU (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2628/tcu-horned-frogs)
L 31-24 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934522)
25
45
366
55.6
76
3
1
141.4
8
9
1.1
12
0
67.6
86.4


10/14
Texas Tech (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2641/texas-tech-red-raiders)
W 46-35 (http://www.espn.com/ncf/recap/_/id/400934529)
32
41
352
78.0
32
5
1
185.5
7
-36
-5.1
2
0
83.9
75.3















That's 21TDs to 5INTs in 6 games.


In the two losses, he completed less than 60% of his passes... which goes along with the theory that if a college QB doesn’t average at least a 60% completion rate, he’ll never make it in the NFL.

Born2Steel
10-20-2017, 08:28 AM
Baker Mayfield 32/41, 410 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Mason Rudolph 25/38, 282 yards,
Riley Ferguson 33/53, 471 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Luke Falk 17/34, 197 yards, 3TDs
Lamar Jackson 13/21, 156 yards, 1TD
Nick Fitzgerald 18/26, 155 yards, 1TD
Josh Rosen 21/36, 266 yards, 2TDs
Sam Darnold 20/28, 229 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Quinton Flowers 10/24, 127 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Will Grier 26/37, 375 yards, 5TDs
Thomas Sirk 14/21, 177 yards

Born2Steel
10-28-2017, 08:21 AM
Baker Mayfield 22/34, 281 yards, 4TDs, 1INT
Mason Rudolph 20/34, 216 yards, 3TDs, 1INT
Riley Ferguson 18/31, 298 yards, 3TDs, 1INT
Luke Falk 13/23, 93 yards, 1TD
Lamar Jackson 27/44, 330 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Nick Fitzgerald 12/21, 141 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Josh Rosen 12/21, 93 yards, 1 TD
Sam Darnold 19/35, 266 yards, 3TDs
Ryan Finley 17/37, 213 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Quinton Flowers 23/38, 325 yards
Will Grier 20/42, 285 yards, 2YDs, 4INTs
Kyle Lauletta 33/52, 310 yards, 3TDs

BlackAndGold
10-29-2017, 08:33 AM
https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2017/10/28/16552726/2018-nfl-draft-prospect-potential-senior-qb-riser-kyle-lauletta-ben-roethlisberger-replacement-nfl

Kyle Lauletta from Richmond is a potential sleeper at QB. He's getting some buzz.

Born2Steel
11-05-2017, 12:12 PM
Baker Mayfield 24/36, 598 yards, 5TDs, 2INTs
Mason Rudolph 28/54, 448 yards, 5TDs, 2INTs
Riley Ferguson 27/39, 298 yards, 4TDs
Luke Falk 34/48, 337 yards, 3TDs, 1INT
Lamar Jackson DNP
Nick Fitzgerald 14/25, 139 yards, 2INTs
Josh Rosen DNP
Sam Darnold 20/26, 311 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Ryan Finley 31/50, 338 yards, 3TDs, 2INTs
Quinton Flowers 24/37, 385 yards, 3TDs, 1INT
Will Grier 20/25, 316 yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Kyle Lauletta 25/32, 259 yards, 1INT
Thomas Sirk DNP

Born2Steel
11-11-2017, 11:41 PM
Baker Mayfield 18/27, 333 yards, 3TDs
Mason Rudolph 25/31, 376 yards, 3TDs
Riley Ferguson DNP
Luke Falk 40/69, 311 yards, 3TDs, 2INTs
Lamar Jackson 15/26, 195 yards, 3TDs
Nick Fitzgerald 13/24, 158 yards
Josh Rosen 22/38, 322 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Sam Darnold 21/34, 329 yards, 2TDs
Ryan Finley 13/32, 146 yards, 1INT
Quinton Flowers DNP
Will Grier 27/46, 372 yards, 4TDs, 2INTs
Kyle Lauletta 27/44, 304 yards, 1TD, 1INT
Thomas Sirk DNP

teegre
11-15-2017, 06:21 AM
https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2017/10/28/16552726/2018-nfl-draft-prospect-potential-senior-qb-riser-kyle-lauletta-ben-roethlisberger-replacement-nfl

Kyle Lauletta from Richmond is a potential sleeper at QB. He's getting some buzz.

The Twitter bugs have all about him for a while... and when they heard this, they lost their minds.

Born2Steel
11-15-2017, 10:35 AM
I'm really impressed with Mayfield right now. Never been a OK or OKState QB enthusiast, as it seems to be system not substance. New regime in OK now though. Mayfield is playing great.

Born2Steel
11-18-2017, 04:33 PM
Baker Mayfield 20/30 257yards, 3TDs
Mason Rudolph 32/53 425yards, 3TDs, 2INTs, 1rushingTD
Riley Ferguson 21/27 320yards, 2TDs, 1INT, 3rushingTDs
Luke Falk DNP
Lamar Jackson 14/26 270YARDS, 2TDs, 2rushingTDs
Nick Fitzgerald 12/23 153yards, 2TDs, 1rushingTD
Josh Rosen 29/47 380yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Sam Darnold 14/25 210yards, 1INT, 1rushingTD
Ryan Finley 34/52 327yards, 1TD, 1INT
Quinton Flowers 11/28 142yards, 2TDs, 1INT
Will Grier injury/DNP
Kyle Lauletta 12/17 204yards, 1TD, 2INTs
Thomas Sirk DNP

polamalubeast
11-18-2017, 06:45 PM
932045308766425088

st33lersguy
11-18-2017, 07:08 PM
932045308766425088

Hard to get on board with entrusting an Oklahoma QB as the new face of the franchise. That system just doesn't prepare teams well for the NFL and it shows with how poorly Oklahoma QBs have fared in the NFL. That conference hasn't produced a good NFL QB in decades and that's because that conference just doesn't prepare QBs well for the NFL

Born2Steel
11-18-2017, 08:11 PM
Hard to get on board with entrusting an Oklahoma QB as the new face of the franchise. That system just doesn't prepare teams well for the NFL and it shows with how poorly Oklahoma QBs have fared in the NFL. That conference hasn't produced a good NFL QB in decades and that's because that conference just doesn't prepare QBs well for the NFL

I'm with you on not trusting certain schools because of the QB system there. OK has a new coaching staff now, Stoops has retired. I cannot help but like Mayfield this season, the guy has a 71% comp rate.

DesertSteel
11-18-2017, 10:40 PM
Head to head Rosen looks better than Darnold IMO. Not sure either is a franchise.

BlackAndGold
11-19-2017, 01:17 AM
Josh Allen didn't play against Fresno State, so his back up completed 20/32 passes for 231 yards and a TD....

Born2Steel
11-19-2017, 08:11 AM
Other than stats, I don't know much about Luke Falk. His numbers are impressive.

Baker Mayfield continues to make plays with his feet and his arm. I'm very impressed.

Riley Ferguson has not had a 'bad' game this season.

Josh Rosen can do everything you want from a QB prospect.

Ryan Finley is another I don't know much about outside of his stats. Impresses each week as well.

I'll just make that my top5 for now.

DesertSteel
11-19-2017, 06:44 PM
Josh Allen didn't play against Fresno State, so his back up completed 20/32 passes for 231 yards and a TD....
Maybe his backup will show up on Mel's big board!

Born2Steel
11-24-2017, 10:55 AM
Guess i can remove Nick Fitzgerald from this list. Horrific ankle break in last night's Egg Bowl.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21532827/nick-fitzgerald-mississippi-state-bulldogs-exits-leg-injury

Will Grier appears done for the remainder of the season as well. May/May not be back for bowl season.


http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/will-grier-injury-finger-broken-west-virginia-surgery-bowl-game/1fek3yfa0kwwb1bfti8bw41bn9

DesertSteel
11-24-2017, 11:33 AM
The way Case Keenum is developing, I'd sign him next year if Ben retires over any of these college QBs that will be around at pick 32.

Born2Steel
11-24-2017, 01:53 PM
The way Case Keenum is developing, I'd sign him next year if Ben retires over any of these college QBs that will be around at pick 32.

I like the season Keenum is having too. I got a lot of chances to see him when he was at the University of Houston and liked him even then. Would not mind it at all if he were brought in and given a chance to backup Ben for another 2 seasons. If Ben is indeed done at the end of this season, Keenum would be a strong candidate, but I can see both sides of that argument as well.

DesertSteel
11-24-2017, 02:04 PM
Keenum just has the look of a guy who’s had the game slow down for him. He’s very intuitive and feels pressure in the pocket. It’s really fun watching him play when he’s on.

Born2Steel
11-24-2017, 02:14 PM
Keenum just has the look of a guy who’s had the game slow down for him. He’s very intuitive and feels pressure in the pocket. It’s really fun watching him play when he’s on.

Vikes may decide to keep Keenum and deal Bradford AND Bridgewater for picks and/or future picks. Or any variation of keep QB and deal for the other 2 that works best.

Born2Steel
11-24-2017, 07:00 PM
Baker Mayfield 14/17 281yards, 3TDs
Mason Rudolph 31/43 438yards, 2TDs, 2rushingTDs
Riley Ferguson 9/13 299yards, 3TDs
Luke Falk
Lamar Jackson 15/21 216yards, 2TDs
Josh Rosen 13/18 202yards, 2TDs
Sam Darnold DNP
Ryan Finley 20/30 204yards, 1INT 2rushingTDs
Quinton Flowers 24/45 503yards, 4TDs, 1rushingTD, 1INT

Kyle Lauletta end of season
(season stats: 281/433((64.9%)), 3737yards, 28TDs, 12INTs, 4rushingTDs)




Someone to keep an eye on. Sophomore QB for UCF McKenzie Milton. Mariota-esque.

DesertSteel
11-24-2017, 07:08 PM
Vikes may decide to keep Keenum and deal Bradford AND Bridgewater for picks and/or future picks. Or any variation of keep QB and deal for the other 2 that works best.
Well he’s a free agent so aside from the franchise tag he can play wherever he wants.

Born2Steel
11-24-2017, 07:14 PM
Well he’s a free agent so aside from the franchise tag he can play wherever he wants.

Do you see him as a franchise tag worthy QB? If not, at what cost does he become not worth it?

DesertSteel
11-24-2017, 08:59 PM
Do you see him as a franchise tag worthy QB? If not, at what cost does he become not worth it?
No way... that's why he'll be available. If he keeps playing at this level for the rest of the year, I see him at $10-12M a year for 3 years without a lot guaranteed. IMO, if the scenario holds up he'd be worth it.

Born2Steel
11-25-2017, 10:47 AM
Anybody know about Logan Woodside, Toledo Rockets? He's currently at a 65.2% comp rate at 10yards per attempt, with 24TDs and only 3INTs on the season.
6'-2" 210lbs.


Baker Mayfield 14/17 281yards, 3TDs
Mason Rudolph 31/43 438yards, 2TDs, 2rushingTDs
Riley Ferguson 9/13 299yards, 3TDs
Luke Falk 37/55 369yards, 1TD, 3INTs
Lamar Jackson 15/21 216yards, 2TDs
Josh Rosen 13/18 202yards, 2TDs
Sam Darnold DNP
Ryan Finley 20/30 204yards, 1INT 2rushingTDs
Quinton Flowers 24/45 503yards, 4TDs, 1rushingTD, 1INT

Kyle Lauletta end of season
(season stats: 281/433((64.9%)), 3737yards, 28TDs, 12INTs, 4rushingTDs)

BlackAndGold
11-26-2017, 07:53 AM
Jarrett Stidham is someone to watch for, not sure he enters the draft but he looked great against Bama. Their run first offense is hiding his talent.

Strong arm, very accurate, moblie, good size, poised.

Was a 5 star recruit to Baylor but transferred to Auburn after the abuse scandal.


Note this was only time I just watch a complete Auburn(Clemson are the real Tigers) Game, so I'll need to see more but he's someone maybe everyone could watch for.

Born2Steel
11-26-2017, 05:16 PM
Jarrett Stidham is someone to watch for, not sure he enters the draft but he looked great against Bama. Their run first offense is hiding his talent.

Strong arm, very accurate, moblie, good size, poised.

Was a 5 star recruit to Baylor but transferred to Auburn after the abuse scandal.


Note this was only time I just watch a complete Auburn(Clemson are the real Tigers) Game, so I'll need to see more but he's someone maybe everyone could watch for.

Stidham's a sophomore. That's why he's not on the list.

BlackAndGold
11-26-2017, 05:34 PM
Stidham's a sophomore. That's why he's not on the list.

He is a Red shirt sophomore. Not sure he enters the draft either way.

Born2Steel
11-26-2017, 05:52 PM
He is a Red shirt sophomore. Not sure he enters the draft either way.

Right, but I can't list every QB that may enter, so I had to draw a line at only Jrs and Srs. Unless it was a requested player by a contributor. Nick Fitzgerald was already planning to stay at MissState, but got a request, so I added him. Always that chance he may change his mind, right? But now with that ankle injury, we can bet on him returning now.

Wait until they start declaring and I'll revamp the list to include 'almost' everyone with season and career stats.
There are a few QBs that are not on this list that I have been watching separately each week that will definitely make that watchlist.

Born2Steel
12-02-2017, 09:24 AM
Championship Week QBs

Sam Darnold 17/24 325 yards, 2TDs
Riley Ferguson 30/42 471 yards, 4TDs, 1INT
Baker Mayfield 15/23 243 yards, 4TDs

Born2Steel
01-08-2018, 07:34 PM
Updated QB rankings. Again, as for how I see that they could work in the Steelers system.

1. Sam Darnold - Size, arm strength, and mobility. A very BigBen-esque QB, IMO. Downside is he does have a turnover history.
2. Kurt Benkert - Size, arm strength, accuracy, and mobility. Another BigBen-esque QB. Downside is maybe not mobile enough.
3. Josh Rosen - Prototypical golden boy QB. Great, beautiful, spiral passes into tight windows. Best pure passer in the draft. Downside is his durability history with concussions, 2 this past season.
4. Baker Mayfield - Does it all. Mobile, strong arm, a leader on and off the field. Knows how to throw guys open and with good touch. Downside is he IS under 6'2" tall. Showed some timidness against Ga defenders.
5. Jeremiah Briscoe - WHO? Size, arm strength, accuracy. Consecutive Walter Payton Award winner 2016/17. Downside is his level of competition has been at the FCS level.

Born2Steel
04-07-2018, 10:47 PM
Riley Ferguson is being projected as a 6-7 round QB prospect. 6'4" 210LBs, good height even if a bit thin. Extremely mobile and can make all the throws. Physical talent is there. Scouts say he tends to lock on with receivers and his thin frame seem to be his biggest faults. Damn but that's fixable in 2 years behind a QB like Ben.

Career numbers at Memphis: 2yrs

26 games, 7955 yards, 70 TDs, 19 INTs, 63% comp rate.


Kyle Lauletta end of season
(season stats: 281/433((64.9%)), 3737yards, 28TDs, 12INTs, 4rushingTDs)
Rated as a 3rd round prospect. 6'3", 215. Mobile QB that can make most NFL throws. Needs to improve arm strength and nervous feet are biggest faults.
Career Numbers at Richmond:
40 Games, 10,465 yards, 73 TDs, 35 INTs, 63% Comp rate.