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polamalubeast
04-28-2017, 10:39 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/james-conner?id=2557978

Steelheart
04-28-2017, 10:40 PM
Only complaint is that it seems really early.

GBMelBlount
04-28-2017, 10:42 PM
Smash Mouth Football returns.

Improves time of possession and hammers the smaller, faster defenses.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/inside-the-nfl/0ap3000000761292/Inside-the-NFL-Is-smash-mouth-football-coming-back

steelerdude15
04-28-2017, 10:43 PM
Awesome! He's staying home.

teegre
04-28-2017, 10:44 PM
Only complaint is that it seems really early.

Yep

But, it could have been worse (a QB). :wink02:

st33lersguy
04-28-2017, 10:45 PM
I am torn. Like the player and like they story but 3rd round seems to soon to draft a backup RB especially with a RB class this deep and considering Haley never uses backup RBs anyway. Also not sure I like an even split between skill position players and defense. Defense needed more help

polamalubeast
04-28-2017, 10:47 PM
I hope Conner is a good catcher too....

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/inside-the-nfl/0ap3000000761292/Inside-the-NFL-Is-smash-mouth-football-coming-back



It's ridiculous...We drafted a WR in the second round !!!!

Born2Steel
04-28-2017, 10:48 PM
I was thinking maybe a RB here just because the 2nd round pick threw me so hard. Would have expected Perine but will take Conner.

WCSteeler
04-28-2017, 11:14 PM
This pick damn near made me tear up, Conner was so much fun to wwwaatch in College and now is a Steeler #H2P

Mojouw
04-28-2017, 11:14 PM
I absolutely hate this pick. Too early. Too old. Too different of a style. Oh well. Let's go Connor - run over some folks.

Steelheart
04-28-2017, 11:15 PM
Yep

But, it could have been worse (a QB). :wink02:

I am in the minority but I actually viewed QB as a higher need than RB and TE/WR. Not to say I liked these QB's in particular, but I didn't understand all of the hate for taking one sooner rather than later.

I predicted last season that if we won the SB Ben would retire. I still think that applies this season as well. So I can understand the potential urgency. That being said, I don't think they should take one just to take one.

DesertSteel
04-28-2017, 11:20 PM
I am in the minority but I actually viewed QB as a higher need than RB and S. Not to say I liked these QB's in particular, but I didn't understand all of the hate for taking one sooner rather than later.

I predicted last season that if we won the SB Ben would retire. I still think that applies this season as well. So I can understand the potential urgency. That being said, I don't think they should take one just to take one.
Peterman, Kaaya, Dobbs still on the board..............

tube517
04-28-2017, 11:20 PM
I was thinking maybe a RB here just because the 2nd round pick threw me so hard. Would have expected Perine but will take Conner.

We do need a backup RB because Frenchy ain't it.


Well here's to hoping a DB in Round 4 for the Tomlin/Colbert "double dip"

WCSteeler
04-28-2017, 11:21 PM
I am in the minority but I actually viewed QB as a higher need than RB and S. Not to say I liked these QB's in particular, but I didn't understand all of the hate for taking one sooner rather than later.

I predicted last season that if we won the SB Ben would retire. I still think that applies this season as well. So I can understand the potential urgency. That being said, I don't think they should take one just to take one.

I agree with you, I feel that the Steelers will wait too long to find a replacement for Ben. The fact that Ben is injured and misses games so often,couple that was age and years in the league its high time the Steelers take this issue seriously

Born2Steel
04-28-2017, 11:26 PM
We do need a backup RB because Frenchy ain't it.


Well here's to hoping a DB in Round 4 for the Tomlin/Colbert "double dip"

I'm expecting ILB, another OLB, another WR/TE, and a QB.

teegre
04-28-2017, 11:34 PM
I am in the minority but I actually viewed QB as a higher need than RB and TE/WR. Not to say I liked these QB's in particular, but I didn't understand all of the hate for taking one sooner rather than later.

I predicted last season that if we won the SB Ben would retire. I still think that applies this season as well. So I can understand the potential urgency. That being said, I don't think they should take one just to take one.

I understand your point, but IMO, next year's draft class for QBs is much better.

BlackAndGold
04-28-2017, 11:49 PM
He started to look like the old Connor later in the college season. One of my favorite players in this draft.

Steelheart
04-28-2017, 11:51 PM
I understand your point, but IMO, next year's draft class for QBs is much better.

Yeah thats what I hear. Like I said, I am not saying they should take any of these QB's, I just view the position as a bigger need than some of the others.

And to your point, I go back to the JuJu pick. How nice would it be to have that Saints 2nd round pick next year as a potential trade piece to get a QB?

teegre
04-29-2017, 12:36 AM
Yeah thats what I hear. Like I said, I am not saying they should take any of these QB's, I just view the position as a bigger need than some of the others.

And to your point, I go back to the JuJu pick. How nice would it be to have that Saints 2nd round pick next year as a potential trade piece to get a QB?

Indeed. An extra R2 in 2018 would have been nice... but, it seems like JuJu was their guy, and so, they took him. I'll never question Colbert's evaluation of receivers.

BlackAndGold
04-29-2017, 12:37 AM
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Steeldude
04-29-2017, 04:08 AM
Ugh! A wasted 3rd round pick on a position that didn't need to be addressed until much later. What's next a QB and then another WR?

Drazo85
04-29-2017, 06:14 AM
I agree with you, I feel that the Steelers will wait too long to find a replacement for Ben. The fact that Ben is injured and misses games so often,couple that was age and years in the league its high time the Steelers take this issue seriously
Maybe just maybe they don't want to end up with Tannehils and Daltons of the world.

RunNGun
04-29-2017, 06:17 AM
My favorite pick of the draft so far. We desperately needed someone to compliment Bell and Conner is a horse!

Steelheart
04-29-2017, 06:51 AM
Indeed. An extra R2 in 2018 would have been nice... but, it seems like JuJu was their guy, and so, they took him. I'll never question Colbert's evaluation of receivers.

Oh for sure. I think WR is the position they evaluate best and as I read up on JuJu I really think I will like him. Still though, I really hate the pick. I just don't see WR as much of a need and when I look at the defense I am just.......well, you saw what the Pats did.

Terrapinstation
04-29-2017, 07:12 AM
Ugh! A wasted 3rd round pick on a position that didn't need to be addressed until much later. What's next a QB and then another WR? I'm guessing a long snapper and punter

Bluecoat96
04-29-2017, 07:24 AM
Indeed. An extra R2 in 2018 would have been nice... but, it seems like JuJu was their guy, and so, they took him. I'll never question Colbert's evaluation of receivers.
One thing that I don't ever see mentioned about the Steelers' ability to pick and develop receivers is that while Tomlin is regarded as a defensive minded coach because of his nfl pedigree, he actually played WR at the collegiate level.

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pczach
04-29-2017, 07:35 AM
My favorite pick of the draft so far. We desperately needed someone to compliment Bell and Conner is a horse!


I think they wanted a closer. Bell has been suspended and has had some injury issues.

They probably see Connor as LeGarrette Blount without the baggage. A guy that can come in late in games an pound on the defense to move the chains, run the clock, and be able to take pressure off of Bell.

It appears the plan this year is to score a lot of points, have the lead in a lot of games, and close the show while keeping the stars healthy with quality depth.

I thought they could have gotten him later in the draft, but he fills a need and is an awesome person in every way. What a great story. I'm happy for the kid.

SteelerFanInStl
04-29-2017, 08:06 AM
I like the player and his story but this was a real reach in the 3rd round. He was projected to go in the 5th-6th.

I would much rather have used the pick on someone like Desmond King and gotten a RB in round 5.

Born2Steel
04-29-2017, 08:09 AM
I like the player and his story but this was a real reach in the 3rd round. He was projected to go in the 5th-6th.

I would much rather have used the pick on someone like Desmond King and gotten a RB in round 5.

Who do you like better between Desmond King and Eddie Jackson? Both are still waiting.

teegre
04-29-2017, 08:23 AM
Oh for sure. I think WR is the position they evaluate best and as I read up on JuJu I really think I will like him. Still though, I really hate the pick. I just don't see WR as much of a need and when I look at the defense I am just.......well, you saw what the Pats did.

I hear you. Really. You were in the discussion thread, and you saw my "unbiased" wish list (6 S, 10 CB). :lol:

At the same time, in the AFCCG, the other problem was after the Taperiots took away AB (7 for 77 is "taking away" AB), there were three dropped TDs by the other receivers. A red-zone/clutch receiver is indeed a need (albeit, not as big of a need).

Born2Steel
04-29-2017, 08:30 AM
I hear you. Really. You were in the discussion thread, and you saw my "unbiased" wish list (6 S, 10 CB). :lol:

At the same time, in the AFCCG, the other problem was after the Taperiots took away AB (7 for 77 is "taking away" AB), there were three dropped TDs by the other receivers. A red-zone/clutch receiver is indeed a need (albeit, not as big of a need).

I'll take it one step further. After Bell went out, it made it possible for the "Tapes" to take away AB. The other WRs failed completely in their roles in the game. NEED RB to continue production when Bell goes out. Love DWill(fellow UM Tiger) but he was not AVAILABLE either. Is that Conner? Hope so. NEED WR that won't choke when it's his turn to step up. Is that Schuster? Hope so.

Edman
04-29-2017, 09:22 AM
Le'Veon Bell goes down on the first drive of the game. Steelers MVP and best offensive weapon is down. DeAngelo filled in decently, but he was done at that point.

Patriots free to double AB.

Ben has nothing but cans to throw to. No one but the Outlaw steps up.

polamalubeast
04-29-2017, 09:26 AM
I understand the reason for selecting an RB, but I am not convinced that the steelers have selected the right RB.

Mojouw
04-29-2017, 09:31 AM
In the light of day, I feel better about the pick but still wonder about the round. A few random thoughts, this is the same team that drafted and unleashed L Bell on an unsuspecting NFL. Parts of Connors scouting report are eerily similar. Big back without breakaway long speed, good catcher with underdeveloped routes, runs high. I know I was incredibly negative earlier in this thread, but beer? The more I read on Connor the player (him as a person is amazing and I never questione) the more I get excited that he drops 15 lbs and gets put through the L Bell RB makeover program.

teegre
04-29-2017, 09:43 AM
I'll take it one step further. After Bell went out, it made it possible for the "Tapes" to take away AB. The other WRs failed completely in their roles in the game. NEED RB to continue production when Bell goes out. Love DWill(fellow UM Tiger) but he was not AVAILABLE either. Is that Conner? Hope so. NEED WR that won't choke when it's his turn to step up. Is that Schuster? Hope so.

Bingo!!!

This is Draft has been ALL about rectifying the AGCCG.

R1 pass rush
R2 red-zone target
R3 pass coverage
R3 Bell's backup

SteelerFanInStl
04-29-2017, 09:52 AM
Who do you like better between Desmond King and Eddie Jackson? Both are still waiting.

I'm not sure, probably King. I just get the feeling that Jackson was made to look better because of the talent around him.

Born2Steel
04-29-2017, 09:56 AM
I'm not sure, probably King. I just get the feeling that Jackson was made to look better because of the talent around him.

I'm in the King camp as well. Seems he does love contact at least. I keep reading he had slow times but can't find any definite 40 numbers.

pczach
04-29-2017, 11:07 AM
In the light of day, I feel better about the pick but still wonder about the round. A few random thoughts, this is the same team that drafted and unleashed L Bell on an unsuspecting NFL. Parts of Connors scouting report are eerily similar. Big back without breakaway long speed, good catcher with underdeveloped routes, runs high. I know I was incredibly negative earlier in this thread, but beer? The more I read on Connor the player (him as a person is amazing and I never questione) the more I get excited that he drops 15 lbs and gets put through the L Bell RB makeover program.


You didn't see the best of him yet. He is now all the way back from knee surgery and he is no longer suffering from weakness from the chemo and then his body recovering from the ravages of his experience. He will now be able to train even harder, and now that he is completely healthy, his body will be able to recover more quickly and fully.

I look forward to seeing what his playing weight will be, and see him at his absolute best. Full power!

steelerdude15
04-29-2017, 11:55 AM
I've watched James play his entire career at Pitt. I think he's a good pick for this team. He will be a good back up player/compliment to Le'Veon. He can run people over and has decent speed in the open field. I think he could be great in goal line situations.

Psycho Ward 86
04-29-2017, 12:22 PM
Initially I was not happy with the round we drafted James in. But after seeing all of the RBs coming off the board before us in round 4, im pretty convinced he wouldnt have come within spitting distance with our 4th round pick.

Joe Williams? Tarik Cohen? Never heard of these guys. And lets all remember were picking at the end of each round so we kind of sort of spent a 4th round pick on Connor. Welcome aboard James!

lipps83
04-29-2017, 01:27 PM
Loved this pick. This pick is the kind of shit that makes me love the Steelers. They love this kid, and not just because he is a good player.. They didn't want to see him go anywhere else, that is why they took him in the 3rd. They didn't want to risk losing him.

This is more important to me than any championship they could win. Making dreams come true and knowing compassion and love is more important than any championship could ever be.

Great pick and my favorite so far because of what it really means.

DesertSteel
04-29-2017, 05:11 PM
A third-round RB is equal to a late first-round QB in terms of expectations.

vader29
04-29-2017, 05:47 PM
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Steeldude
04-29-2017, 06:56 PM
Le'Veon Bell goes down on the first drive of the game. Steelers MVP and best offensive weapon is down. DeAngelo filled in decently, but he was done at that point.

Patriots free to double AB.

Ben has nothing but cans to throw to. No one but the Outlaw steps up.

Sounds like a coaching problem.

pczach
04-29-2017, 07:18 PM
Sounds like a coaching problem.


Not trying to be a smartass, but.........

Losing the #2 WR to a year-long suspension
Losing the #3 WR for most of the year
Losing 90% of Production from the #4 receiver after breaking multiple fingers
After their beloved TE retired, they replaced him with a free agent and that free agent #1 TE missed most of the year and wasn't there for the playoff game.
The #1 running back in the NFL played 2 snaps in the AFC Championship

How is all that................a coaching problem?

Let's recap:

No #2 WR
No #3 WR
The #4 WR was ineffective due to injury
No #1 TE
No #1 RB

Come on man....really?

It doesn't explain the defensive game plan, but you can't say that losing that many weapons wasn't a major factor. It's not an excuse....it's a reason.

RunNGun
04-29-2017, 07:23 PM
I think they wanted a closer. Bell has been suspended and has had some injury issues.

They probably see Connor as LeGarrette Blount without the baggage. A guy that can come in late in games an pound on the defense to move the chains, run the clock, and be able to take pressure off of Bell.

It appears the plan this year is to score a lot of points, have the lead in a lot of games, and close the show while keeping the stars healthy with quality depth.

I thought they could have gotten him later in the draft, but he fills a need and is an awesome person in every way. What a great story. I'm happy for the kid.

I agree 100%! You're talking Bill Cowher football and I like it!

Craic
04-29-2017, 07:26 PM
I agree 100%! You're talking Bill Cowher football and I like it!

Really? You like losing in the AFCCG every time and never being able to win the SB? (Only reason we won in 05 is because Cowher opened up the offense).

I hope we never go back to Bill Cowher football. I much rather would have what we have now, an offense that can run the ball if you shut down the passing, and an offense that can pass the ball if you shut down the running. In Cowher's day, if you could stuff the rush, the Steelers were finished for the day.

GBMelBlount
04-29-2017, 07:26 PM
Bingo!!!

This is Draft has been ALL about rectifying the AGCCG.

R1 pass rush
R2 red-zone target
R3 pass coverage
R3 Bell's backup

Great point.

We should be improved on both sides of the ball this year....and I am praying that our red zone production improves as their is no way we should be only average in the red zone with all of the talent we have on offense.

Craic
04-29-2017, 07:29 PM
Bingo!!!

This is Draft has been ALL about rectifying the AGCCG.

R1 pass rush
R2 red-zone target
R3 pass coverage
R3 Bell's backup

That really is a great point.

Of course, the key problem in that game was the Long Snapper. :wink02:

Shoes
04-30-2017, 05:45 PM
:lol:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9I0fWqgO0E

FrancoLambert
04-30-2017, 07:39 PM
Just checked our roster of backup RB's just to be sure.

Toussaint, Davis, Brown-Dukes, and a few other unknowns.

Yeah, I like the Conner pick a lot.