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Mojouw
02-05-2017, 06:22 PM
Draft pundits are dumb. Deion Jones was listed as bad pick along with Artie Burns and Sean Davis. I'm going to go with the folks around here once again.

Pass rush is all that slows down either team.

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Maybe they should not have cut CJ Goodwin?

teegre
02-05-2017, 07:17 PM
Draft pundits are dumb. Deion Jones was listed as bad pick along with Artie Burns and Sean Davis. I'm going to go with the folks around here once again.

Yep.

A month ago, I posted an article by PFF which listed its 16 worst picks of the 2016 draft... and at least 9 of which were really good picks. :lol:

Born2Steel
02-05-2017, 07:21 PM
Blount sure seems to be back into the form he played in when he was here. Dance at the handoff and run directly into the line.

Julio has those Jerry Rice type hands. If they touch the ball, it's a catch. So freaking strong.

Steel Peon
02-05-2017, 07:31 PM
Blount sure seems to be back into the form he played in when he was here. Dance at the handoff and run directly into the line.

Julio has those Jerry Rice type hands. If they touch the ball, it's a catch. So freaking strong.

True and true, but I'll say AB is just as good if not better, and only lacks JJ's cast of supporting WRs.

43Hitman
02-05-2017, 07:41 PM
True and true, but I'll say AB is just as good if not better, and only lacks JJ's cast of supporting WRs.You gotta admit though, with Bryant probably back in the fold along side Rodgers. That's pretty scary.

Mojouw
02-05-2017, 07:55 PM
You gotta admit though, with Bryant probably back in the fold along side Rodgers. That's pretty scary.

I think defensive coordinators are already having cold sweats about it.


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teegre
02-05-2017, 10:02 PM
I'll say AB is just as good if not better

AB vs. Julio Jones

Gun to my head... uh... shoot me. :lol:

Born2Steel
02-05-2017, 10:04 PM
I think defensive coordinators are already having cold sweats about it.


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I hope so. And if we add 1 more legitimate weapon to our offense, along with fixing our pass rush issue, dynasty return.

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AB vs. Julio Jones

Gun to my head... uh... shoot me. :lol:

The Patriots did a good job taking away Jones just like AB. The difference, IMO, comes down to size and strength. Advantage Julio, but I'm ready to back up the armored truck fpr AB.

teegre
02-05-2017, 10:06 PM
The Patriots did a good job taking away Jones just like AB. The difference, IMO, comes down to size and strength. Advantage Julio, but I'm ready to back up the armored truck fpr AB.

And... AB still caught 7 for 77 yards.

After the catch, there's no one better than AB.

st33lersguy
02-05-2017, 10:50 PM
In this crazy sports year, the Pens holding onto a 3-1 series lead to win the NHL finals is now looking like a heck of an accomplishment

teegre
02-05-2017, 11:04 PM
As Colin Cowherd (of all people) said:

1. Get a passer.
2. Rush the passer.
3. Protect the passer.

1. check
2. draft, draft, draft
3. check

polamalubeast
02-05-2017, 11:08 PM
The pass rush is useless when you play the soft zone against Brady....

Mojouw
02-05-2017, 11:13 PM
The pass rush is useless when you play the soft zone against Brady....

And 40 some of 60 some for 450+ yards says that man coverage is no great shakes when you fail to get to Brady as well!

Falcons didn't possess the ball enough in the second half. Their defense was on the field FOREVER (96 plays or something like that over the course of the game?) and they broke down through exhuastion more than anything else likely.

Point is, NFL football is a complex series of moving parts and very rarely, if ever, is a single point failure the sole source of a bad outcome. If the Steelers execute the zone better and don't lose Hogan and the fullback in coverage a handful of times - who knows, we could be having a different conversation.

Likely about how Taylor Gabriel at them alive, but still -- different.

teegre
02-05-2017, 11:15 PM
The pass rush is useless when you play the soft zone against Brady....

When the Falcons defense pressured Brady, they gave up 3 points in almost three quarters. .

When they didn't get pressure, they gave up 25 points in a little over a quarter.

polamalubeast
02-05-2017, 11:23 PM
And 40 some of 60 some for 450+ yards says that man coverage is no great shakes when you fail to get to Brady as well!

Falcons didn't possess the ball enough in the second half. Their defense was on the field FOREVER (96 plays or something like that over the course of the game?) and they broke down through exhuastion more than anything else likely.

Point is, NFL football is a complex series of moving parts and very rarely, if ever, is a single point failure the sole source of a bad outcome. If the Steelers execute the zone better and don't lose Hogan and the fullback in coverage a handful of times - who knows, we could be having a different conversation.

Likely about how Taylor Gabriel at them alive, but still -- different.

Imagine if the steelers defense would have been on the field for 96 plays against the pats. It would have been 70 points at least.


Man to man is not a guarantee, since Brady is the best QB of all time, but at least Atlanta have try, what the steelers have not done!

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When the Falcons defense pressured Brady, they gave up 3 points in almost three quarters. .

When they didn't get pressure, they gave up 25 points in a little over a quarter.


The point is that when you play the soft zone against Brady, Brady throws the ball in less than 2 seconds and the pass rush has no chance!

teegre
02-05-2017, 11:27 PM
The point is that when you play the soft zone against Brady, Brady throws the ball in less than 2 seconds and the pass rush has no chance!

The last quarter of the Super Bowl disagrees with you.

The teams that beat Brady, pressure him. The Ravens consistently do it. The NYGiants won two Super Bowls by doing it. And, the Falcons would have won a Super Bowl by doing it... except their pass rush disappeared (despite still playing man coverage).

It's ALL about pressure.

Mojouw
02-05-2017, 11:28 PM
How is man coverage any different? You guard me. Assume I beat the jam at the line, now I know where I am going and when I need to get there. You know neither. Want to bet who "wins"?

From what I saw during the SB, and I admit I did not watch as closely as I could have, the Falcons DBs (other than the pick and like 6 other passes out of 60 some) did not bat a ton of balls down. Brady still completed over 60%!

Man coverage only makes things "better" if you have a high end CB to "erase" a guy and then you put extra people in the mix to put Brady on his ass. Falcons only rushed 3 or 4 most of the night.

polamalubeast
02-05-2017, 11:29 PM
The last quarter of the Super Bowl disagrees with you.

The teams that beat Brady, pressure him. The Ravens consistently do it. The NYGiants won two Super Bowls by doing it. And, the Falcons would have won a Super Bowl by doing it... except their pass rush disappeared (despite still playing man coverage).

It's ALL about pressure.


2 things you have to do against Brady.Pressure and play man to man

If you do not both, you have no chance.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-05-2017, 11:31 PM
When the Falcons defense pressured Brady, they gave up 3 points in almost three quarters. .

When they didn't get pressure, they gave up 25 points in a little over a quarter. Which makes you wonder why would they abandon it when it was working all game ? Then pass later when they only need to run the ball and kick a field goal to win. 1.Atlanta coaches are even less intelligent then Pitts which I can't believe.2. Or the fix was in!

polamalubeast
02-05-2017, 11:36 PM
Which makes you wonder why would they abandon it when it was working all game ? Then pass later when they only need to run the ball and kick a field goal to win. 1.Atlanta coaches are even less intelligent then Pitts which I can't believe.2. Or the fix was in!




They try to put pressure, but they just ran out of gas at the end.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-05-2017, 11:46 PM
They try to put pressure, but they just ran out of gas at the end. Sorry not buying that and if the case, pretty sure Pats OL was tired just the same. Ps they didn't try and back off in the 4th.

Craic
02-06-2017, 01:13 AM
So, what did I learn?

Simple. Once again, nobody beats the Pats* twice in a year, and in important games, no one can beat them in the second half. Last time they played that way, there was a reason for it that nothing to do with football. I'd lay 3 to 1 there's a similar reason this time

LloydWoodson
02-06-2017, 02:03 AM
When the Falcons defense pressured Brady, they gave up 3 points in almost three quarters. .

When they didn't get pressure, they gave up 25 points in a little over a quarter.

Exactly. That's what pissed me off. Brady looked like Tim Tebow when he was being pressured- overthrowing receivers or throwing it into the turf for no reason. Only when the D got fatigued did he look good.

On that note Ryan is also a god damned statue that can't avoid the pass rush and doesn't have good pocket awareness. Ben/Rodgers/Wilson/Prescott turn a couple of those sacks into completions.

Steelers need a much better pass rush. Tuitt wasn't 100 and Heyward was out but the edge rush from the Steelers is totally lacking. Need an OLB to complement Dupree hopefully comes in the 2nd round. I'm just starting to look at players but I really like Taco Charlton from Michigan.

Steel Peon
02-06-2017, 02:26 AM
Pressure on Brady or not, there's no reason for the Atlanta offense to have imploded in the ways they did come the 2nd half, and I detect a foul odor emanating from this game.

Steeldude
02-06-2017, 03:46 AM
It would be great if the Steelers could draft a 3-4 OLB who can rush the passer from the start, not wait for a season or two.

polamalubeast
02-06-2017, 04:56 AM
So, what did I learn?

Simple. Once again, nobody beats the Pats* twice in a year, and in important games, no one can beat them in the second half. Last time they played that way, there was a reason for it that nothing to do with football. I'd lay 3 to 1 there's a similar reason this time

The Pats often lost against the same opponent 2 times in the same year in the last few years

The Jets in 2010, giants in 2011, ravens in 2012 and broncos in 2015....

86WARD
02-06-2017, 05:30 AM
It doesn't matter what coverage you play against Brady. There is ALWAYS one receiver open. It's their scheme. All the QB has to do in that scheme is find the guy before the pass rush gets there. Sounds simple, but that's how they operate. The receivers keep moving until they are open and once they are, Brady makes all,the throws. The only way to beat them is to make Brady throw before he is ready. How often do you see Brady throw a go route? How often to you see him throw a Flag or Post pattern? Not very often. Their routes are short and quick, high percentages to be open and make a throw before the pass rush is there. It's really that simple. I hate to say it, but coverage doesn't make that big of a difference. Zone, they run quick routes to the wholes. Man, they just run quick routes at angles the defender can't get to. Look at Amendolas TD. No defender could've defended that.

Count Steeler
02-06-2017, 06:49 AM
Didn't watch much of the game, about the last 9 minutes.

Do refs not call face masks anymore? It is one thing to miss a holding call in the trenches, but a face mask on the ball carrier going out of bounds? WTF are the refs looking at? Just the Atlanta's player body and neck twist should have drawn attention. Not a big miss? Just so happened to take Atlanta out of FG range and gave the Pats* another opportunity to tie or win the game. If the holding penalty is off set by the face mask, I think Atlanta wins the SB.

AtlantaDan
02-06-2017, 07:43 AM
Throwing the ball when the obvious call is run is not just a Todd Haley flaw. It takes a team to blow a 25 point second half lead but this sequence was when Atlanta could have put away the game up 8.

Leading 28-20 with 4 minutes, 40 seconds remaining, the Falcons had a first down at the Patriots' 22-yard line and a great opportunity to make it a two-score game. The Patriots had found their rhythm on offense, but it's debatable whether they would have had enough time to score twice.

The Falcons' playcalling at that point was, well, unexpected -- and that's being kind to offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. They missed a huge opportunity to seal the game.
Shanahan called a pass on second and third downs. The first resulted in a 12-yard sack, and the second was overturned by a holding penalty. On the next play -- on third-and-33 -- Shanahan called another pass that fell incomplete. The Falcons lost 23 yards on two plays, were forced to punt and drained only 1:10 off the clock.

Had the Falcons simply run three times -- even if they failed to gain a single yard -- kicker Matt Bryant (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4333/matt-bryant) would have been in position for a quite reasonable 39-yard field goal attempt. In his career, Bryant is 31-for-32 on field goals of 40 yards or shorter in the fourth quarter or overtime, according to research from Micah Adams of ESPN Stats & Information.

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/230700/falcons-produce-a-choke-job-for-the-ages-in-super-bowl-li

This column in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution sums up the despair in Atlanta

The Falcons lose the most Atlanta game ever

This wasn't just another in Atlanta's lengthy series of Hard Knocks and Epic Collapses. This was the absolute worst. This was the game that, with 17 minutes and seven seconds remaining, could not be lost. It was.

http://www.myajc.com/sports/football/the-falcons-lose-the-most-atlanta-game-ever/1tZhLz7Eza3T0LArVo0OVO/

EzraTank
02-06-2017, 08:20 AM
Steelers coaches that is how you make adjustments.

EzraTank
02-06-2017, 08:25 AM
Leading 28-20 with 4 minutes, 40 seconds remaining, the Falcons had a first down at the Patriots' 22-yard line and a great opportunity to make it a two-score game. The Patriots had found their rhythm on offense, but it's debatable whether they would have had enough time to score twice.

The Falcons' playcalling at that point was, well, unexpected -- and that's being kind to offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. They missed a huge opportunity to seal the game.
Shanahan called a pass on second and third downs. The first resulted in a 12-yard sack, and the second was overturned by a holding penalty. On the next play -- on third-and-33 -- Shanahan called another pass that fell incomplete. The Falcons lost 23 yards on two plays, were forced to punt and drained only 1:10 off the clock.

Had the Falcons simply run three times -- even if they failed to gain a single yard -- kicker Matt Bryant (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/4333/matt-bryant) would have been in position for a quite reasonable 39-yard field goal attempt. In his career, Bryant is 31-for-32 on field goals of 40 yards or shorter in the fourth quarter or overtime, according to research from Micah Adams of ESPN Stats & Information.




This sums up the stupidity of the Falcons perfectly. It doesn't matter how tired their defense was had they run the ball 3 times, forced the Pats to burn their time outs and kicked a FG they are most likely champs barring an onside kick recovery.

dislocatedday
02-06-2017, 09:26 AM
I just read that the Falcons only attempted 5 rushes the whole 2nd half.....unbelievable. The decision to not run it 3 straight times up the middle when they had 1st and ten from the 22 is mind-boggling enough (you kill the clock down and kick the FG to make it a 2 score game......Matt Bryan was 38 of 39 on FG attempts within 40 yards this year).

Are the 49ers sure they want to hire Kyle Shanahan? He was a big part of the biggest choke job in SB history.

Rotorhead
02-06-2017, 06:39 PM
Atlanta Dan, that was spot on. I was just shaking my head that Ryan took that sack, then holding (with no face mask called) and all the sudden they are out of FG range. Run the ball there 2x and with how the night was going, they probably get a first down. And if not they get the FG and the game is pretty much over. I am not sure why the pass rush disappeared in the second half, fatigue or what. But if the offense hadn't completely crapped the bed, it was fine to sit back and make the Pats drive the full length of the field to burn up the clock, which is what they did, but that series of sack and holding lost them the game.

SteelerFanInStl
02-06-2017, 06:47 PM
Thanks to this game, the rest of the world will completely forget about our terrible performance in the AFC Championship game.

Mojouw
02-06-2017, 06:58 PM
Kinda got lost in the shuffle yesterday, but here is what Atlanta did on third down in the SB:


Sack for loss of 10.
Sack for loss of 2.
19-yard touchdown to Austin Hooper (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/49724/austin-hooper).
Incomplete on third-and-6.
3-yard DPI to set up the Tevin Coleman touchdown on the next play.
Sack for loss of 9.
Sack for loss of 11, fumble, recovered by New England.
Completion to Taylor Gabriel for 9 yards on third-and-23, wiped out by a holding penalty.
Incomplete on third-and-33.
Incomplete on third-and-6.


That is not good. Not good at all.

AtlantaDan
02-06-2017, 07:03 PM
Kinda got lost in the shuffle yesterday, but here is what Atlanta did on third down in the SB:


Sack for loss of 10.
Sack for loss of 2.
19-yard touchdown to Austin Hooper (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/player/49724/austin-hooper).
Incomplete on third-and-6.
3-yard DPI to set up the Tevin Coleman touchdown on the next play.
Sack for loss of 9.
Sack for loss of 11, fumble, recovered by New England.
Completion to Taylor Gabriel for 9 yards on third-and-23, wiped out by a holding penalty.
Incomplete on third-and-33.
Incomplete on third-and-6.


That is not good. Not good at all.

Ed B. of the P-G brought this burn on the third and one pass play that resulted in the sack/fumble (IMO the biggest play of the game that put the comeback into overdrive)

What was Atlanta thinking on that third-and-1 straight drop-back pass to throw deep? The play had everything but Sammie Coates running down the sideline.:chuckle:

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2017/02/06/falcons-patriots-super-bowl-LI-collapse-dan-quinn-kyle-shanahan-julio-jones-matt-ryan-tom-brady-bill-belichick/stories/201702060135

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-06-2017, 07:11 PM
Basically the Pats been gifted two SB's in the last three years thanks to Seattle and Atlanta and their coaches,

Steel Peon
02-06-2017, 10:58 PM
The Falcons lose the most Atlanta game ever

This wasn't just another in Atlanta's lengthy series of Hard Knocks and Epic Collapses. This was the absolute worst. This was the game that, with 17 minutes and seven seconds remaining, could not be lost. It was.

Somehow, for the second time in 3 years I can say that a team playing against the P-Words in the Super Bowl lost a game they should've won......kinda weird.

Born2Steel
02-07-2017, 08:45 AM
Breaking the game down, the Patriots owned the Falcons the whole way. A couple of offensive mistakes/good defensive plays gave Atlanta a big lead. But, Atlanta gets 2 TDs on 2 TOs. 1 pick6, and a TD off the fumble. Take those away and the Falcons high powered offense truly produced 2 scores. Give NE scores on those 2 possessions, or punts, and this game is a completely different story.

Atlanta 14
NE 48(with TDs on those drives)
40-44(w/2 FGs or 1FG and 1 TD)

Even if you give Atlanta the 7 after the fumble since the offense drove to score, with the final score where it was becomes Atlanta 21, NE 37-41.

tube517
02-07-2017, 08:48 AM
Somehow, for the second time in 3 years I can say that a team playing against the P-Words in the Super Bowl lost a game they should've won......kinda weird.

Dan Quinn was part of both losses. He was so close twice.

43Hitman
02-07-2017, 03:03 PM
You know the whole time I'm watching the last half of the 3rd and 4th quarter thinking, why isn't Matt Ryan running the play clock down? He was consistently calling for the snap with 13-15 seconds left on the play clock. They had the game won if they worked the clock a little and ran the ball on third and one. Reminded me of what we do on 3rd and short. Go deep to Bey, or Coates. SMH

teegre
02-07-2017, 04:08 PM
3rd-&-1 from the 36:
They dropped back for the deep pass. I kind of get going for the throat at that point. They were in no man's land, and likely would have gone for it on 4th down.

1st-&-10 from the 22:
There is no excuse for not running it three straight times and kicking the FG. They would have been up by 11, with 2:30 left. Instead, they passed three times, lost a ton of yardage, and punted with 3:30ish left... while only up by 8. Again, no excuse.

AtlantaDan
02-07-2017, 04:08 PM
You know the whole time I'm watching the last half of the 3rd and 4th quarter thinking, why isn't Matt Ryan running the play clock down? He was consistently calling for the snap with 13-15 seconds left on the play clock. They had the game won if they worked the clock a little and ran the ball on third and one. Reminded me of what we do on 3rd and short. Go deep to Bey, or Coates. SMH

But when the Steelers do it the run up to the play involves Ben waiting to call for the snap as the play clock inevitably ticks down to somewhere between 2 seconds and zero :chuckle:

43Hitman
02-07-2017, 04:17 PM
But when the Steelers do it the run up to the play involves Ben waiting to call for the snap as the play clock inevitably ticks down to somewhere between 2 seconds and zero :chuckle:True. I'm always watching that damn thing when they play. I wish he would mix it up a little more. :chuckle:

katmandu
02-07-2017, 11:03 PM
When the Falcons defense pressured Brady, they gave up 3 points in almost three quarters. .

When they didn't get pressure, they gave up 25 points in a little over a quarter.THIS !

I was great watching Pretty Boy get stressed out and pressured. Really nice to see he actually got his jerzey dirty.

If the Steelers want to beat the Patriots in the future, it's imperative they upgrade the pass rush.

# 97, Jarrett, Grady was a freaking BEAST ! Steeler's need to find a NT like that ! ASAP !

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-08-2017, 02:29 AM
THIS !

I was great watching Pretty Boy get stressed out and pressured. Really nice to see he actually got his jerzey dirty.

If the Steelers want to beat the Patriots in the future, it's imperative they upgrade the pass rush.

# 97, Jarrett, Grady was a freaking BEAST ! Steeler's need to find a NT like that ! ASAP ! I was saying Jarrett needs to be considered as MVP. Of course before the Falcons browned the sheets worse then I ever seen from a team. He played a heck of a game.

katmandu
02-08-2017, 07:45 AM
I was saying Jarrett needs to be considered as MVP. Of course before the Falcons browned the sheets worse then I ever seen from a team. He played a heck of a game.I agree. Dude played lights out !

The Steeler's NEED a "lights out" NT like him.

Getting Tom Brady under pressure is imperative "if" the Steelers wish to ever beat him ever again. Letting him sit in the pocket throwing bullets "AT WILL" ... never breaking a sweat or getting his jersey dirty is suicide.

Improving the Pass Rush needs to be Job #1 in this off-season IMHO.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-08-2017, 08:21 AM
I agree. Dude played lights out !

The Steeler's NEED a "lights out" NT like him.

Getting Tom Brady under pressure is imperative "if" the Steelers wish to ever beat him ever again. Letting him sit in the pocket throwing bullets "AT WILL" ... never breaking a sweat or getting his jersey dirty is suicide.

Improving the Pass Rush needs to be Job #1 in this off-season IMHO. Exactly and agreed about defense Brady!

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-08-2017, 08:27 AM
Crazy thing is I swear there was 10 to 15 seconds or more where Brady got to dance around and hit a open wr when playing us. Not all the time but was a few times that happen with us having no pass rush whatsoever!

katmandu
02-08-2017, 09:00 AM
Crazy thing is I swear there was 10 to 15 seconds or more where Brady got to dance around and hit a open wr when playing us. Not all the time but was a few times that happen with us having no pass rush whatsoever!Sheer madness allowing Brady to hangout like that in the pocket. Like he was tossing the ball in his backyard to his kids.

SteelerFanInStl
02-08-2017, 09:39 AM
The Falcons are replacing their DC and DL coach after the Super Bowl fiasco.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
02-08-2017, 10:48 AM
Sheer madness allowing Brady to hangout like that in the pocket. Like he was tossing the ball in his backyard to his kids. That is funny but also the hard truth.

NCSteeler
02-08-2017, 11:32 AM
I don't care if you are man or zone what he Falcons did works against Brady. As lousy a coach as Ryan is, he figured it out. Rush the passer and a Tackle the Catch. It beats brady

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steelreserve
02-08-2017, 06:30 PM
Crazy thing is I swear there was 10 to 15 seconds or more where Brady got to dance around and hit a open wr when playing us. Not all the time but was a few times that happen with us having no pass rush whatsoever!


I don't care if you are man or zone what he Falcons did works against Brady. As lousy a coach as Ryan is, he figured it out. Rush the passer and a Tackle the Catch. It beats brady


"Tackle the catch" worked for the Falcons because they played a lot of press coverage and they were all over the receivers on short routes. So it would be a 2-7 yard contested throw and not much after the catch.

"Tackle the catch" did not work for us because we gave their receivers space. So it was a 7-12 uncontested throw and an opportunity to juke the defender, which they often did. Just like every time they play us.

The other ting that went the Falcons' way was, there were a lot of times when Brady could NOT get rid of the ball quickly because the tight coverage meant people were not open immediately on the short routes. So he had to hold on to it and the rushers had time to get there. Atlanta did have a much better rush than us, but if not for the coverage it wouldn't have mattered because Brady just dumps the ball off anyway and someone is wide open.

I missed most of the second half because I was on my way to the hospital for an animal bite, but if I had to make a bet, it'd be that Belichick made some adjustments to get guys open underneath and the Falcons didn't react. Plus their defense got tired.

NCSteeler
02-08-2017, 06:54 PM
"Tackle the catch" worked for the Falcons because they played a lot of press coverage and they were all over the receivers on short routes. So it would be a 2-7 yard contested throw and not much after the catch.

"Tackle the catch" did not work for us because we gave their receivers space. So it was a 7-12 uncontested throw and an opportunity to juke the defender, which they often did. Just like every time they play us.

The other ting that went the Falcons' way was, there were a lot of times when Brady could NOT get rid of the ball quickly because the tight coverage meant people were not open immediately on the short routes. So he had to hold on to it and the rushers had time to get there. Atlanta did have a much better rush than us, but if not for the coverage it wouldn't have mattered because Brady just dumps the ball off anyway and someone is wide open.

I missed most of the second half because I was on my way to the hospital for an animal bite, but if I had to make a bet, it'd be that Belichick made some adjustments to get guys open underneath and the Falcons didn't react. Plus their defense got tired.

In the second half he really got the backs involved underneath , swing outs, and screens. Somehow Atlant had know idea this was doing


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86WARD
02-08-2017, 07:13 PM
Rushing Brady and tackling the catch works because Brady is downright average or worse at passes over 15 yards. Usually completing well less than 50%. If there is one flaw in his game, it's that he can't throw the long pass.

So basically, rush the passer, get the sack and get to him before he finds his open guy or tackle the catch. Force third and long and he will have to throw long. If you give him all day, he'll find the open guy...and they always have an open guy.

EzraTank
02-09-2017, 10:39 AM
I agree. Dude played lights out !

The Steeler's NEED a "lights out" NT like him.

Getting Tom Brady under pressure is imperative "if" the Steelers wish to ever beat him ever again. Letting him sit in the pocket throwing bullets "AT WILL" ... never breaking a sweat or getting his jersey dirty is suicide.

Improving the Pass Rush needs to be Job #1 in this off-season IMHO.

I said this the week leading up to the AFC title game. Brady is not Brady when you get pressure up the middle. He easily handles rushes from the sides by stepping up away from it. But when you get it right up the middle like Houston and Atlanta did against him in their games he makes mistakes (both his picks came off pressure up the middle).

The Steelers dropping into zone and not running any stunts up the middle was moronic. Brady cannot handle middle pressure. That really is his only weakness.

86WARD
02-09-2017, 03:39 PM
And he can't throw over 15 yards with regular accuracy and if you watch that Houston game and beyond, Brady struggled making those longer throws and a lot of times, the receivers made the catch because the balls were thrown too short or the DBs just weren't looking.

Bradyschin
02-12-2017, 12:06 PM
Atlanta had a hold of the Patriots face mask also

Born2Steel
02-12-2017, 01:49 PM
Atlanta had a hold of the Patriots face mask also

Actually, the Atlanta player removed the helmet of the NE player via facemask. Should have been offsetting penalties and replay the down.