Steelers are not expected to re-sign Jarvis Jones

[polamalubeast]

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[Mojouw]

Water is wet.


Not aimed at you pb - just that time of year. Glad Rotoworld was able to break this massive story

[salamander]

Waiting for NE to sign him

[86WARD]

Hopefully they do.

[Steeldude]

We'll see.

[tube517]

Tennessee or Arizona will be his next stop

[BlackAndGold]

Lets hope we receive a solid comp pick for him.

[DesertSteel]

Lets hope we receive a solid comp pick for him.
Should be a nice one. Would that go into effect next year?

[polamalubeast]

Lets hope we receive a solid comp pick for him.


It will not happen...No team will give Jones a big contract.

[Mojouw]

Wouldn't count on it. Comp picks is some bizarre witchcraft that involves contract $$ and playing time, plus FA that the Steelers sign.

Bottom line, who is going to give Jones Manny Sanders money AND Sanders playing time? That's what it takes to get a 3rd or 4th.

[polamalubeast]

Wouldn't count on it. Comp picks is some bizarre witchcraft that involves contract $$ and playing time, plus FA that the Steelers sign.

Bottom line, who is going to give Jones Manny Sanders money AND Sanders playing time? That's what it takes to get a 3rd or 4th.

And the steelers only have had a fifth round pick for Sanders.

[Mojouw]

And the steelers only have had a fifth round pick for Sanders.

I forgot about that! Kinda feel like maybe they got shafted on that one. Either way, I think your post is even better. If you get a 5th for Sanders, what do you get for Jones? A -2?

[steelreserve]

Wouldn't count on it. Comp picks is some bizarre witchcraft that involves contract $$ and playing time, plus FA that the Steelers sign.

Bottom line, who is going to give Jones Manny Sanders money AND Sanders playing time? That's what it takes to get a 3rd or 4th.


Some idiot will give him way more money than he's worth, citing the difficulty of finding edge rushers. Even though he sucks, just watch, he'll be like the 3rd-rated guy on the market.

Having said that, even if he signs a $1 billion contract and starts all 16 games, that'll come out of the NFL's compensatory-pick black box as a 7th-rounder.

[fansince'76]

Lets hope we receive a solid comp pick for him.

They'll be lucky to get a stale 6-pack of Iron City Light for him...

[teegre]

Having said that, even if he signs a $1 billion contract and starts all 16 games, that'll come out of the NFL's compensatory-pick black box as a 7th-rounder.

:applaudit:


(Sadly, that's not far off.)

[vader29]

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[86WARD]

If they let Jones walk and sign Ingram, they are likely to get nothing in return...right?

[Mojouw]

If they let Jones walk and sign Ingram, they are likely to get nothing in return...right?

One would assume. Ingram gets the bigger dollars almost for sure. Then likely outproduces Jones. So no comp pick because Steelers came out ahead. I think that is how that works.

[86WARD]

One would assume. Ingram gets the bigger dollars almost for sure. Then likely outproduces Jones. So no comp pick because Steelers came out ahead. I think that is how that works.

That's what I thought too...and I think we should be happy with that...lol.

[Born2Steel]

What about replace Jones with Dontari Poe? How does that DLine look now? We would truly be ready for a move to 4-3.

[86WARD]

Poe? I'd take that in a second!!

[DesertSteel]

Maybe we can fill his spot with Woodley...

[teegre]

What about replace Jones with Dontari Poe? How does that DLine look now? We would truly be ready for a move to 4-3.

I've heard that Poe's knees are about shot.

[86WARD]

I've heard that Poe's knees are about shot.

Is that right? Even with no knees, he'd probably get more pressure than Jones. That sucks for Poe if that's the case.

[teegre]

Is that right? Even with no knees, he'd probably get more pressure than Jones. That sucks for Poe if that's the case.

Back in 2012, I really wanted David DeCastro... but, Dontari Poe intrigued me.

Anyway, I heard someone on the radio talking about how Poe was going to be a free agent... and, I got excited. Then, they added that the Chiefs probably, wouldn't try to re-sign him, because he has had knee troubles. Argh!!!

Similarly, there was an article listing the top free agents for 2017, discussing the pros & cons for each player... and they also mentioned his knees. Double-argh!!!


So... he'll sign with the Taperiots and play at a Pro Bowl level for five years. :doh:

[43Hitman]

Back in 2012, I really wanted David DeCastro... but, Dontari Poe intrigued me.

Anyway, I heard someone on the radio talking about how Poe was going to be a free agent... and, I got excited. Then, they added that the Chiefs probably, wouldn't try to re-sign him, because he has had knee troubles. Argh!!!

Similarly, there was an article listing the top free agents for 2017, discussing the pros & cons for each player... and they also mentioned his knees. Double-argh!!!


So... he'll sign with the Taperiots and play at a Pro Bowl level for five years. :doh:Yeah, and I remember reading somewhere on Chiefsplanet when we were playing them in the divisional round about his quality of play dropping way off.

[Shoes]

No thanks on Poe.

Dontari Poe, NT, Kansas City ChiefsKansas City has some choices to make this offseason, with both safety Eric Berry and nose tackle Dontari Poe slated to hit the open market. My hunch is that they will choose to retain Berry and let Poe walk, given his regression from being one of the game’s top nose tackles back in 2013. At 346 pounds, his pass-rush has never been much of a factor, but the Chiefs have consistently kept him on the field for 74 percent of defensive snaps or more over his career. His run defense has been good in two of the past four seasons, but entirely average in two others. In order to be worth the kind of big-money contract Damon Harrison got from the Giants a season ago, Poe needs to show that he is a guaranteed monster in that area, and he hasn’t been to this point in his career.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-top-10-players-set-to-hit-free-agency/

[86WARD]

I wanted DeCastro bad that draft...I couldn't believe he dropped to the Steelers. If they passed him up, I would've strangled three people.

[86WARD]

Maybe I wouldn't go for Poe...

[Born2Steel]

Poe, that shiny quarter somebody left on the floor. But when you go to pick it up, somebody has glued it to the floor. Joke's on you.

Maybe. I really don't know much about his productivity lately. I just remember him killing it at the combine and being touted for DROY his first season. Haven't paid much attention since. I would love to add a true NG to our DLine though. I know, we discussed this last year and NTs aren't used like in the past, and only 2 down linemen at best and such. Still hoping McCullars can become that force in the middle.

[tube517]

I wanted DeCastro bad that draft...I couldn't believe he dropped to the Steelers. If they passed him up, I would've strangled three people.

I remember Mayock or whoever the analyst I was watching saying the same thing. No brainer to take DeCastro at that time, especially the way the o-line was at the time.

[teegre]

I wanted DeCastro bad that draft...I couldn't believe he dropped to the Steelers. If they passed him up, I would've strangled three people.

He was my pick all season long... it was almost a given (in my mind). Sort of like the year that they drafted Heath: it was a foregone conclusion.

Starting in 2010, I dreamed of an O-line as such:

LT: Starks
LG: Pouncey
OC: Pouncey
RG: DeCastro
RT: Gilbert

When the Steelers drafted DeCastro, I had 4/5 of that lineup; so, my friend (a Chargers fan) called me up to say, "You always get what you want!!!" and hung up. :lol:

[SteelerFanInStl]

Poe hasn't been the same player the last couple of years. That would be a complete waste of $$ IMO.

If we lose Jones and sign Ingram, I really don't care about a compensatory pick. That's a winner already.

[Psycho Ward 86]

and all this for a part time player (regarding Poe). Ingram Ingram Ingram

[polamalubeast]

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[86WARD]

Let's try to be positive...he didn't say it was open either...lol.

[vindrow]

Thank you Lord, the experiment is over!!!

[Method28]

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Sweet mother of god.....please no lol

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[vader29]

Close it and lock it up!

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[Psycho Ward 86]

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this tweet makes me feel like the girl in The Shining hiding in the bathroom while jack nicholson is breaking in with his ax...

[st33lersguy]

There is no justification for keeping him, not even for vet minimum, just get him out the door

[86WARD]

This off season has the "sign all of our own back" kind of feel to it...no matter who they are...lol.

[BurghBoy412]

No Brainer

[polamalubeast]

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[st33lersguy]

Nice market for Jarvis?

:toofunny:

[Steeldude]

Will an NFL team be dumb enough to sign Jarvis Jones?

[GBMelBlount]

The one thing I liked about Jarvis Jones is that it was easy evaluate his play.

Because when reviewing his plays at normal speeds it looks like slow motion.

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

He seems like a nice guy and tries but the speed and talent are just not there. Wish him the best and with that said hope he is not on the roster this year.

[Steeldude]

The Jones' apologists have gone into hiding.

[Method28]

I really wouldnt mind him being on the team for a cheap cheap contract...IF i had faith that he would be strictly a back up. The coaches seem to thrust him in front of other (clearly better) Lbs. So with that said, i hope hes not in the rotation next year.

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[pepsyman1]

We can use Jarvis as assistant equipment manager, OR just take him out to the curb and let the garbage men take him away.

[Shoes]

I feel bad for Jones. He has worked hard and played hard but you can't put in what God left out.

[steelerdude15]

Will an NFL team be dumb enough to sign Jarvis Jones?

Yeah, Cleveland or Jacksonville.

[Mojouw]

Jarvis Jones is the defensive equivalent of DHB. Not his fault the Steelers drafted him and displayed the lack of athleticism that almost ALL pre-draft reports warned of.

If I was another GM and I could get a league average LB who is decent in space, better than average against the run, and was 26 but whose lack of pass rush knocked his price down to 3 million a year? Sure. I would do that.

[Craic]

Jarvis Jones is the defensive equivalent of DHB. Not his fault the Steelers drafted him and displayed the lack of athleticism that almost ALL pre-draft reports warned of.

If I was another GM and I could get a league average LB who is decent in space, better than average against the run, and was 26 but whose lack of pass rush knocked his price down to 3 million a year? Sure. I would do that.
I think that's a pretty good assessment, provided I had guys up front who could get to the QB.

[Mojouw]

I think that's a pretty good assessment, provided I had guys up front who could get to the QB.

Exactly - I should've added that!

[pczach]

There are a lot of teams that would sign a man with Jarvis Jones' talents. It's called depth.

Jarvis Jones didn't cause this problem. The Steelers signed a player that didn't match the talent of the positional player they actually needed. They jumped at someone to draft a need and came up empty. It happens.

Jones worked hard and gave good effort. He just wasn't talented enough.

All the signs were there before they drafted him:

He wasn't big.
He was slow.
He had zero high end pass rush moves.

They looked at his production, and ignored all the things they saw on tape and in his measurables.

He was a guy that should have been drafted in the fourth round, but they drafted him in the first round. There's no need to insult the guy. He gave us everything he had to offer at the position he played in this system.

[polamalubeast]

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[AtlantaDan]

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This may be the ultimate test of whether Steelers West will sign any former Steeler capable of fogging up a mirror

[DesertSteel]

This may be the ultimate test of whether Steelers West will sign any former Steeler capable of fogging up a mirror
Apparently the Steelers East may have the same criterion LOL

[BlackAndGold]

Jarvis signs with the Cardinals.

[tube517]

Jarvis signs with the Cardinals.

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[Psycho Ward 86]

Jarvis signs with the Cardinals.

the greatest steelers offseason move in a decade

[st33lersguy]

Good!

[Shoes]

the greatest steelers offseason move in a decade


:lol:

[SteelerFanInStl]

Good riddance!!!!

[86WARD]

Jarvis signs with the Cardinals.

#WINNING

[steelreserve]

the greatest steelers offseason move in a decade

Or at least since Antwon Blake signed with Tennessee ...

[Dwinsgames]

Jones was not as aweful as is being made out to be , did I want him back , not necessarily but on the cheap I would have had interest in a guy who can give me some reps to spell an aging Harrison and I would not have been apposed at giving him a shot to play inside ...

as it stands him leaving did not make this team better by any means if anything we are in slightly worse shape for the loss of depth

could do a whole lot worse than Jarvis Jones as your top backup OLB and we just might find that out the hard way dependent upon how the draft falls

[st33lersguy]

Or at least since Antwon Blake signed with Tennessee ...

And when dirty dick went to the Rams

[Psycho Ward 86]

Jones was not as aweful as is being made out to be , did I want him back , not necessarily but on the cheap I would have had interest in a guy who can give me some reps to spell an aging Harrison and I would not have been apposed at giving him a shot to play inside ...

as it stands him leaving did not make this team better by any means if anything we are in slightly worse shape for the loss of depth

could do a whole lot worse than Jarvis Jones as your top backup OLB and we just might find that out the hard way dependent upon how the draft falls

Jarvis Jones hurries + sacks per year:

2016: 7 + 1
2015: 6 + 2
2014: injured + 2
2013: 7 +1

thats god awful no matter how you spin it. my favorite part of his pass rush game is the fact that 2 of his 6 career sacks were on plays where he demolished Joe Thomas of all people :lol:

[Dwinsgames]

Jarvis Jones hurries + sacks per year:

2016: 7 + 1
2015: 6 + 2
2014: injured + 2
2013: 7 +1

thats god awful no matter how you spin it. my favorite part of his pass rush game is the fact that 2 of his 6 career sacks were on plays where he demolished Joe Thomas of all people :lol:


10 pass defensed , 2 ints , 2 forced fumbles ....again never claimed he was " the man " but he is a decent backup that will not embarrass you on any given Sunday , knows the system ...all that equates to more than they have now

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

To bad they signed the other Jones or would have been the best FA ever even without signing a free agent at all from another team. Again Jarvis is a good guy and gives his all but thank God he will be doing both elsewhere!

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

10 pass defensed , 2 ints , 2 forced fumbles ....again never claimed he was " the man " but he is a decent backup that will not embarrass you on any given Sunday , knows the system ...all that equates to more than they have now Kinda agree but here lies the problem. The team being satisfied with that production doesn't give others a chance that are probably better and will produce better. Same with Landry Jones and RB Croissant. Steelers get happy with mediocre players and the position never gets upgraded!

[Born2Steel]

Jarvis may become more in AZ. He never improved here, that was the big issue. Then Bud comes in and pretty much starts producing straight away, so it's not the system. It was time to move on from Jarvis Jones.

[Dwinsgames]

I guess my biggest issue with all the dogging of Jones and calling him " terrible" and not in the good way as in the Towel is we have lessor guys still on the roster that are revered by some of the same people dogging Jones ....

this guy per example ..... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ChicAn00.htm

(http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ChicAn00.htm)

[AtlantaDan]

One year deal - no discussion of $$$ - signed as backup so probably close to league minimum

Even the assistant coaches at Steelers West are ex-Steelers :chuckle:

It didn’t hurt that Jarvis Jones had connections to key defensive coaches, having played with inside linebacker coach Larry Foote on the Steelers and having a close relationship with defensive line coach Brentson Buckner – the two attended the same high school and Buckner has been Jones’ mentor since Jones was 14.

http://www.azcardinals.com/news-and-events/article-2/Jarvis-Jones-Signing-Adds-Linebacker-Depth/472a527e-f69c-4060-9ca3-75d064423764

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Good for Jarvis and lets move on! That said can't wait for the garbage we will sign that is still out there and realize Jarvis found a home before them.

[steelerdude15]

This needed to happen.