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DesertSteel
01-22-2017, 08:08 PM
Fire away...

(Impossible to give any game balls away)

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Goat: Tomlin. Starts and stops with his idiotic game plan. He has final say and what a choke. He never put the D in position to succeed playing 10 yards off the receivers.

Edman
01-22-2017, 08:09 PM
Antonio Brown.

If you're going to go on Facebook and record yourself like a bitch in the locker room before a big game, and embarrass the team, at least show up to play in the game to prove yourself.

Instead, you disappear.

I'll be all over this a-hole until he retires. Antonio Clown.

DesertSteel
01-22-2017, 08:11 PM
I knew we were done on the first series when I saw where our DBs were lined up.

Edman
01-22-2017, 08:14 PM
I knew we were done on the first series when I saw where our DBs were lined up.

Lebeau Junior. Butler is just as bad if not worse than Lebeau. He'll stay, but he really disappointed me tonight.

Don't try to challenge or cover the Patriots receivers, just let Brady play pitch and catch again.

salamander
01-22-2017, 08:16 PM
The coaches.

DesertSteel
01-22-2017, 08:20 PM
Pats want to make the Steelers pay for those a-hole comments now. No letting off the gas. Can't blame them either.

Edman
01-22-2017, 08:22 PM
Pats want to make the Steelers pay for those a-hole comments now. No letting off the gas. Can't blame them either.

A-Hole comments have nothing to do with it. They're better than we are and we can't stop them.

DesertSteel
01-22-2017, 08:25 PM
A-Hole comments have nothing to do with it. They're better than we are and we can't stop them.
You're missing my point. I'm saying they want to run up the score till the end. I'm not saying that's a reason why we lost lol.

Edman
01-22-2017, 08:28 PM
Steelers players and coaches can get all pissy and angry at the Patriots all they want. They keep screwing your over and you keep taking it. They play dirty and cheat, and you keep taking it.

You keep trotting out the same old bullcrap against New England, and they keep owning you.

You once again came up small when you needed to against them. Belichick owns Tomlin. Brady owns Ben. You are their bitch. Sit down and take it.

Love you guys, but those are the facts.

SteelerFanInStl
01-22-2017, 08:29 PM
Same defense every fucking game.

teegre
01-22-2017, 08:37 PM
BB

From the opening drive, he was off. Coates had his man beat, and BB underthrew him. Multiple times, BB had 4-5 seconds to survey the field, and still threw errant passes. I guess that I was wrong, and the aforementioned NFL Network poll was correct: BB deserved to be the lowest rated QB of the four remaining.

Hamilton didn't help by dropping TWO TD passes.

Neither did the 1st-&-goal debacle.


Math: that's 24 points left on the field.

zulater
01-22-2017, 08:45 PM
BB

From the opening drive, he was off. Coates had his man beat, and BB underthrew him. Multiple times, BB had 4-5 seconds to survey the field, and still threw errant passes. I guess that I was wrong, and the aforementioned NFL Network poll was correct: BB deserved to be the lowest rated QB of the four remaining.

Hamilton didn't help by dropping TWO TD passes.

Neither did the 1st-&-goal debacle.


Math: that's 24 points left on the field.

Are you kidding with BB? :doh:

Coates should have caught that ball! He really has no talent for catching the ball. Any receiver worth two shits makes that catch. Overall Ben was solid. Not his fault Haley undermined the red zone offense with shitty play calling out of shittier formations! Hello Todd! The 50's want their power T formation back! Yeah good effing job draw everyone into the tackle box and then trying to power it in by handing to a back lined up 7 yards behind the los! Yeah Ben's fault!:jerkit:

steelreserve
01-22-2017, 08:45 PM
Butler should have been fired in the middle of the game for that pitiful defensive scheme. Didn't even give us a chance to win.

I don't understand - did we not watch ANY film of the Patriots when we were coming up with a game plan? Have we never played them before? Or are our coaches really that dense that they still don't get how this works?

Nope - 3-man rush, soft zone. Enjoy your offseason.

SteelerFanInStl
01-22-2017, 08:49 PM
BB

From the opening drive, he was off. Coates had his man beat, and BB underthrew him. Multiple times, BB had 4-5 seconds to survey the field, and still threw errant passes. I guess that I was wrong, and the aforementioned NFL Network poll was correct: BB deserved to be the lowest rated QB of the four remaining.

Hamilton didn't help by dropping TWO TD passes.

Neither did the 1st-&-goal debacle.


Math: that's 24 points left on the field.

What game did you watch? That pass to Coates was PERFECT! It went right off of his hands. Ben was right on target for most of the game.

DesertSteel
01-22-2017, 08:51 PM
BB

From the opening drive, he was off. Coates had his man beat, and BB underthrew him. Multiple times, BB had 4-5 seconds to survey the field, and still threw errant passes. I guess that I was wrong, and the aforementioned NFL Network poll was correct: BB deserved to be the lowest rated QB of the four remaining.

Hamilton didn't help by dropping TWO TD passes.

Neither did the 1st-&-goal debacle.


Math: that's 24 points left on the field.
Rodgers sucked too.

Tomlin in is a top 5 coach and Ben is a top 5 QB. Problem is they were playing the best QB and arguably the best coach of all time. Not enough. No scheme change. Just more of the same butt whoopin they always get from the Pats.

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What game did you watch? That pass to Coates was PERFECT! It went right off of his hands. Ben was right on target for most of the game.
Agree. That pass went right though his hands.

SteelerCountry58
01-22-2017, 08:51 PM
Yeah gotta go Butler and the wideouts. Bell got hurt but he wasn't doing squat anyway.

st33lersguy
01-22-2017, 08:52 PM
I'll just give it to the entire team, poor performance, coaching outclassed, defense giving up wide open plays all game, offense had trouble finding it's way

Steelerchad
01-22-2017, 08:52 PM
It usually comes down to a play or 2 and even though this was a runaway, I think a few plays turned the game and forced us into mistakes later.
Missed xtra point
1st and goal from the 1 foot line and settle for 3
fumble by Brady, call stands. Instead of our ball inside Pats territory, they drive down and tack on 3 more
No pressure most of the night
Refs didn't show up. And I mean, I think they took the night off. Hardly any penalties on either team. Pats DB's apparently are now allowed to face guard. Saw at least 4 PI's like this and none called. In fact, no penalties on Pats until garbage time. Laughable. I saw Harrison get tackled, exact same play as KC, no call.

Obviously it turned into a route, but game and playcalling is different when it's a 1 or 2 score game.

zulater
01-22-2017, 08:54 PM
Yeah gotta go Butler and the wideouts. Bell got hurt but he wasn't doing squat anyway.

He got hurt on the first play of the game, even though he stayed in for a while basically he was done right at the start. Would he have made a difference? :noidea:

EzraTank
01-22-2017, 08:56 PM
Coaches. This is all on them.

Brown played with passion once it was already decided, Bell pussied out, and Ben tried to do too much as usual once it got out of hand.

At this point the Steelers should offer Josh McDaniels head coaching money to come here and run our offense. I mean he knows how to draw up schemes that get even second rate receivers WIDE THE FUCK OPEN.

This loss is all on our shitty coaches.

SteelerFanInStl
01-22-2017, 08:56 PM
My goats go to the entire coaching staff. How the HELL can you come into a game against the Patriots with the same f'ing game plan that's never worked in the past? smfh

Craic
01-22-2017, 08:56 PM
He got hurt on the first play of the game, even though he stayed in for a while basically he was done right at the start. Would he have made a difference? :noidea:

Where did you hear that? (Not challenging the information, just wondering where it came from. If he did, that would explain quite a bit concerning Bell.)

Terrapinstation
01-22-2017, 08:56 PM
Tomlin is the goat, like he is every year. Maybe next year you'll 'unleash hell'. I'd settle for having your team remotely prepared for a game once in a while. I give up on you even trying to keep control of your team. Maybe you can get another photo op with Harrison before he retires.

Haley. 3rd and 1, you call a bomb. 3rd and 5, you call a bomb. 3rd and a **** hair from the goal line, you don't call a QB sneak.

Butler. I don't even know what to say. I just remember the 3rd and 1, Artie Burns was lined up 10 yards off of Hogan. Brady looked over, threw him a screen, and he gained 8 yards. How many times can that happen over and over and over again before you wise up and make an adjustment? We'll never know.

Coates. you suck. I don't necessarily blame you for sucking, but you do. If this guy is your #5 WR, so be it. If he's your #2 or 3, you aren't a contender. Never in my life have i seen a guy drop so many balls in one game.

Brown. I get it. You're cool. You're a superstar. you have some sick dance moves. Guess what you don't have? A ring. Way to show up after you humiliated yourself, your coach, and your team last week.

Pretty much everyone else sucked too. Ben was actually decent. Everyone else sucked. Whatever. Next year will be the same.

tube517
01-22-2017, 08:59 PM
Butler. Lebeau's zone defense blows.

Why should Bellicheat/Marsha do anything different? Same shit different toilet.

Iron Steeler
01-22-2017, 09:02 PM
Defense.

steelreserve
01-22-2017, 09:02 PM
Tomlin in is a top 5 coach and Ben is a top 5 QB. Problem is they were playing the best QB and arguably the best coach of all time. Not enough. No scheme change. Just more of the same butt whoopin they always get from the Pats.

All very true, but Brady is NOT the best QB of all time and it's not even close. Belichick, despite being an in-game scumbag, definitely is in the conversation on the coaching side. I was going to say that showed tonight, except he didn't even have to really DO anything besides show up and watch us throw the game away.

No joke, Belichick must have been thinking "Again? These guys still don't get it after 12 years and they're still trying the same shit that didn't work every other time we played? Lol, OK, I'll take it - thanks very much!"

pczach
01-22-2017, 09:04 PM
Ben was the only guy that came to play today. He played well enough to keep them in it if he got any help at all.

On the throw to Coates. Watch the play again. Coates slowed down just before the ball got there because he misplayed it in the air, and then had to reach for a perfectly thrown pass that he still should have caught. Coates slowed slightly on a deep pass to the end zone in the third quarter that he also didn't go all out for. It went off his hands but he should have caught it easily if he ran all out. Again, he misjudged the ball.

That's all on Coates.

Cobi Hamilton dropped a perfectly thrown ball into his belly that should have been a touchdown. He later ran out of bounds on his own and caught the ball illegally for a touchdown, but was called back because he screwed up when he stepped out of bounds. He had a few other mistakes as well.

That's on Hamilton

Eli Rogers played hard today. I loved his effort, but his fumble was big.

Bell went out with groin injury early.

They couldn't run the ball.

The offensive line was disappointing.

The defensive game plan was embarrassing. It had almost zero chance to work. It was not a professional effort from the coaching staff tonight defensively. How Butler and Tomlin continued to play zone when they were getting ripped a new asshole the entire game is beyond sad. Even if they just mixed some man in certain situations to surprise them a bit or force a perfect throw, I could live with it. What they did was a complete embarrassment from a coaching perspective.

Shoes
01-22-2017, 09:04 PM
Again this team came to NE flat in the head. Sammie Coates is a walking stiff. He runs like a 2x10 with his arms strapped to his body.

WCSteeler
01-22-2017, 09:20 PM
Probably Harrisons last NFL game and it ended in a bad way.
Tomlin was outcoached and Ben played decent but not like a Top 5 or even top 10 QB would perform, Ben missed badly on quite a few very routine passes and it never EVER amazes me how the defense can revert back to their old ways so quickly....missed tackles (tons of them).
It was a totally team collapse coaches included.

zulater
01-22-2017, 09:26 PM
Here's my goats

1. Todd Haley. First and goal from the 1. You go to the 1950's for your formation and line up in a tight T, drawing both safeties and corners into the tackle box. You hand to your back lined up 7 yards deep on both first and second down. Way to tip your hand Todd! :doh:

Still Todd. Missing your All Pro back. But still run on virtually every first down in the second half putting your offense in 2nd and long for the duration of the game until it was too late!

Hell even after all that with the game mostly decided we get a first and goal from the 5. So what do you do? Still absent your all pro back, of course you run on first and second down, not letting Ben have a chance until 3rd down ( where dumb ass 83 runs himself ineligible)

Keith Butler. Yeah just keeping running zone defense. Don't press ever or try to disrupt them off the line! Patriots owned you, especially on 3rd down! Stupid game plan!


Mike Tomlin. You surrendered the game when you punted from the Patriots 40 on 4th and 7 with the score 20-9. Give the offense a chance to sustain the drive. Once you punted you just knew they'd drive the field and make it a 3 score game.

lipps83
01-22-2017, 09:34 PM
I bet the Patriots didn't even scheme anything this week for their offense since they probably knew Butler wouldn't change a thing and they already knew what to do.

They probably watched cartoons all week.

I bet they binge watched that Muppets 80's cartoon. It was pretty good.

teegre
01-22-2017, 09:53 PM
Are you kidding with BB? :doh:

Coates should have caught that ball! He really has no talent for catching the ball. Any receiver worth two shits makes that catch. Overall Ben was solid. Not his fault Haley undermined the red zone offense with shitty play calling out of shittier formations! Hello Todd! The 50's want their power T formation back! Yeah good effing job draw everyone into the tackle box and then trying to power it in by handing to a back lined up 7 yards behind the los! Yeah Ben's fault!:jerkit:

Yes, Coates could have caught that ball, but that doesn't change the fact that it was underthrown.


I agree: Haley's 1st-&-goal series sucked. I don't recall blaming BB for that. :huh:

zulater
01-22-2017, 09:55 PM
Yes, Coates could have caught that ball, but that doesn't change the fact that it was underthrown.


I agree: Haley's 1st-&-goal series sucked. I don't recall blaming BB for that. :huh:


If Coates catches the ball as he should have we're in fg range. Ball was thrown fine. Make the damn play 14!

teegre
01-22-2017, 09:58 PM
What game did you watch? That pass to Coates was PERFECT! It went right off of his hands. Ben was right on target for most of the game.

I disgree. Coates had to slow up. AB catches that. Hines Ward catches that. I get it that Coates has horrible hands, which is why BB needed to leave him.

As far as the game goes, BB started off sluggish, and then he was great... and his receivers started dropping TDs and/or fumbling.

SUMMATION:
Between the second drive of the Miami game through the garbage time of thus game, BB threw ZERO TDs.

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If Coates catches the ball as he should have we're in fg range. Ball was thrown fine. Make the damn play 14!

Are we talking about the same play???

Really. I think we're talking about two different plays...

zulater
01-22-2017, 10:01 PM
I disgree. Coates had to slow up. AB catches that. Hines Ward catches that. I get it that Coates has horrible hands, which is why BB needed to leave him.

As far as the game goes, BB started off sluggish, and then he was great... and his receivers started dropping TDs and/or fumbling.

SUMMATION:
Between the second drive of the Miami game through the garbage time of thus game, BB threw ZERO TDs.

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Are we talking about the same play???

Really. I think we're talking about two different plays...

No we're not, you just saw it different than virtually every one else.

Normally I enjoy your perspective, but that pass was fine. Coates makes that catch, first drive of the game, and things looks a whole lot different early.

teegre
01-22-2017, 10:05 PM
No we're not, you just saw it different than virtually every one else.

Normally I enjoy your perspective, but that pass was fine. Coates makes that catch, first drive of the game, and things looks a whole lot different early.

Maybe I am seeing it different. IDK

From my perspective, what I saw was that if Coates makes that catch, he walks in for a TD... because, he had his man beat. That said, I also remember him having to slow up.

fansince'76
01-22-2017, 10:07 PM
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Kinda says it all right there.

We need Bryant back to take some of the coverage away from AB. The other guys simply aren't ready for prime time.

salamander
01-22-2017, 10:10 PM
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Kinda says it all right there.

We need Bryant back to take some of the coverage away from AB.

Sure would be nice to have Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant all together for a full season and not hurt or suspended.

teegre
01-22-2017, 10:11 PM
On the throw to Coates. Watch the play again. Coates slowed down just before the ball got there because he misplayed it in the air, and then had to reach for a perfectly thrown pass that he still should have caught. Coates slowed slightly on a deep pass to the end zone in the third quarter that he also didn't go all out for. It went off his hands but he should have caught it easily if he ran all out. Again, he misjudged the ball.

Okay. That makes sense.

Steel Peon
01-22-2017, 10:12 PM
The primary excuse for this debacle will undoubtedly be the absence of Le'Veonn Bell for 95% of the game, and while it's certainly A valid excuse, it is by far not even close to a definite reason for the myriad of poor performances across the entire team, save for a few players. Continuing that train of thought, Antonio CANNOT be faulted if he's the only reliable target on offense besides Jesse James, who did as good as you could expect. Ben was mostly accurate tonight, but for some reason was forced into attempting low percentage throws into tight coverage, and I'm not sure if it's even his fault, or Haley's fault for calling shit plays, or for the fact that we have an inexcusable amount of disposable WRs on our roster. I just can't lay too much blame on Ben's feet, especially when considering he felt consistent pressure while being protected by "The Greatest OL in the NFL." One fact is undeniable though, our game plan sucked from beginning to end, and lacked any coherent structure towards winning a conference championship, while squandering an offense that was supposed to be our greatest strength period. Period. And, period.

But no, that's not where I'm laying the majority share for this defeat, and we all know where it's going without me typing another word. With that, I will only ask "Is this defense any better than the one we had one year ago?" If you say yes to that question, then I'd be deadly curious as to why in a flying fucking shit you think so. Ok fine, the LBs have a slightly better rhythm than last year's corp, but they've been gaining hardly any more pressure on opposing QBs, and certainly none against Tom Brady. The DL is OK (albeit Cam Heyward was hurt), but our secondary is another sandwich full of shit altogether. Mitchell is shit, Davis did nothing (although he shows promise), Gay did nothing, and Cockrell did nothing. These are all glaring deficiencies which make me more than prepared to state the same thing about this defense that I was ridiculed for last season, which is: This defense is no better minus Antwon Blake than it was with him, and he was only a minor piece in an otherwise larger failure. You guys can roast me all you want again, but I really don't fucking care, because he was singled out as the primary reason we lost ball games, when I knew for a fact he wasn't our biggest problem. Am I still bitter? Yes. Did anything get fixed? No. Will I type anything into another football forum ever? I'm not sure. Whatever the case may be, be sure to afford the second chance to Artie Burns that you never afforded to Blake.

Edit: Bryant can take a fucking walk, and while I'm not judging him, he's certainly not focused on being a player in the NFL, and only served as a (another) wasted draft pick.

pczach
01-22-2017, 10:17 PM
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Kinda says it all right there.

We need Bryant back to take some of the coverage away from AB.


Bell got hurt.

They couldn't run the ball.

Patriots loaded up to stop the run and doubled AB all night.

Ben gave all the other guys chances to make plays the entire game. They failed far too many times.

119 yards of dropped passes doesn't include any of the yards after the catch that were possible and the three definite touchdowns that were dropped or taken away in the game....plus the fumble after the catch by Rogers.

That doesn't even include the interception that was thrown to DHB 40 yards down the field. He didn't even look for the ball as Ben threw it on a line to get it in between the corner and the safety. DHB ran right by and the defender caught it. If DHB sees the ball and adjusts, he boxes out the defender with his body and he has a chance to make the catch.

It was a nightmare by the young WR's tonight. Rogers played real hard, but had the big fumble. Jesse James played pretty well, but there were also some other opportunities where he just couldn't make the catch.

WCSteeler
01-22-2017, 10:17 PM
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Kinda says it all right there.

We need Bryant back to take some of the coverage away from AB. The other guys simply aren't ready for prime time.

Ben was inaccurate, the drops didn't help matters but the guy just isn't up to the task on the road. Bryant won't help the fact he is not mobile and looks like a shell of his former self especially on the road. This loss was a total team collapse and looked ugly from every angle, Ben shouldn't be blamed exclusively for the loss but who can ignore his decline?

zulater
01-22-2017, 10:20 PM
Ben was inaccurate, the drops didn't help matters but the guy just isn't up to the task on the road. Bryant won't help the fact he is not mobile and looks like a shell of his former self especially on the road. This loss was a total team collapse and looked ugly from every angle, Ben shouldn't be blamed exclusively for the loss but who can ignore his decline?


Who can ignore your cluelessness? :coffee:

Ben didn't have a great year. But he was good this game.

He's part of the solution not the problem.

fansince'76
01-22-2017, 10:21 PM
Ben was inaccurate, the drops didn't help matters but the guy just isn't up to the task on the road. Bryant won't help the fact he is not mobile and looks like a shell of his former self especially on the road. This loss was a total team collapse and looked ugly from every angle, Ben shouldn't be blamed exclusively for the loss but who can ignore his decline?

Sorry, but Coates misplaying the ball in the air != Ben was inaccurate.

pczach
01-22-2017, 10:27 PM
Ben was inaccurate, the drops didn't help matters but the guy just isn't up to the task on the road. Bryant won't help the fact he is not mobile and looks like a shell of his former self especially on the road. This loss was a total team collapse and looked ugly from every angle, Ben shouldn't be blamed exclusively for the loss but who can ignore his decline?


We're talking about this game.

He played well tonight, but didn't get any help.

If you look at this game and decide a large portion of the blame is on Ben, you don't know what you're talking about. You were saying the same stuff all throughout the game day thread.

If you think Ben should be replaced, you're out of your mind.

WCSteeler
01-22-2017, 10:27 PM
Sorry, but Coates misplaying the ball in the air != Ben was inaccurate.

Yes Coats misplaced the ball but Ben was still inaccurate. His WRS didn't give him any help on the drops but Ben on the road remained Ben on the road. The game a as destined to be a shootout due to the fact that Brady eats Texas alive who play zone coverage and that's the way the Steelers are built. 9 points at the half will not cut it, the offense was flat and I will not blame that on the loss on Bell

tube517
01-22-2017, 10:28 PM
We're talking about this game.

He played well tonight, but didn't get any help.

If you look at this game and decide a large portion of the blame is on Ben, you don't know what you're talking about. You were saying the same stuff all throughout the game day thread.

If you think Ben should be replaced, you're out of your mind.

He says (actually he only posts when) the Steelers lose. Don't bother reading his posts.

pczach
01-22-2017, 10:31 PM
He says (actually he only posts when) the Steelers lose. Don't bother reading his posts.

If someone isn't smart enough to know who the best players are on the team you supposedly watch every week, it's sad.

It's his right to come to this message board and say that. It's his opinion and he's entitled to it.

That said, it's our right to tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about and doesn't understand football.

WCSteeler
01-22-2017, 10:34 PM
We're talking about this game.

He played well tonight, but didn't get any help.

If you look at this game and decide a large portion of the blame is on Ben, you don't know what you're talking about. You were saying the same stuff all throughout the game day thread.

If you think Ben should be replaced, you're out of your mind.

I think the Steelers need to release Landry Jones, draft a QB and let a rookie learn from Ben. I was saying the same stuff on the GameDay thread and the Steelers mustered 1 rushing TD and then a pass TD in garbage time. I see some deline in Ben's game and I'm not the only one

Shoes
01-22-2017, 10:36 PM
Sorry, but Coates misplaying the ball in the air != Ben was inaccurate.

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WCSteeler
01-22-2017, 10:40 PM
If someone isn't smart enough to know who the best players are on the team you supposedly watch every week, it's sad.

It's his right to come to this message board and say that. It's his opinion and he's entitled to it.

That said, it's our right to tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about and doesn't understand football.

Your correct you can say I don't understand football but I see the game as a football fan and not exclusively a Steeler fan. Ben has been the best player in the organization not to mention one of my all time favorites but the numbers will show he has declined especially on the road.

pczach
01-22-2017, 10:54 PM
I think the Steelers need to release Landry Jones, draft a QB and let a rookie learn from Ben. I was saying the same stuff on the GameDay thread and the Steelers mustered 1 rushing TD and then a pass TD in garbage time. I see some deline in Ben's game and I'm not the only one


Yes, I know you're not the only one. Anyone can go to the game day threads throughout the entire season and read the same people say the same things over and over and blame Ben for everything. Last week, there were people blaming Ben for everything that happened in that game. There were even people still bitching when they ran an entire drive of running plays for a touchdown. The entire drive, everyone was still complaining about Ben. He also sucked in the Dolphins game that they won by 18 points according to many.

The quarterback is going to get blamed from many when things go badly. That goes with the territory. But that's a gut reaction from people that don't know the game well enough to identify the real problems. Just because you think that doesn't mean there is any basis in fact.

AtlantaDan
01-22-2017, 11:16 PM
BB

From the opening drive, he was off. Coates had his man beat, and BB underthrew him. Multiple times, BB had 4-5 seconds to survey the field, and still threw errant passes. I guess that I was wrong, and the aforementioned NFL Network poll was correct: BB deserved to be the lowest rated QB of the four remaining.

Hamilton didn't help by dropping TWO TD passes.

Neither did the 1st-&-goal debacle.


Math: that's 24 points left on the field.

BB apparently disagrees

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I think Ben was dissatisfied with the progress of wide receivers other than AB all season (particularly Coates) and apparently unloaded

Add this to the mix

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Rotorhead
01-23-2017, 12:23 AM
Game plan was my goat. As soon as I saw a zone def, I turned to my wife and said this game is over. If they ever learn to adapt they will be great. I am happy with the season as they were one game away from the SB, further than I expected this year. We need a premier FA OLB and a #2 WR if we are to take the next step. Let's hope we can put that together this offseason. Go Falcons!

Scott La Rock
01-23-2017, 12:53 AM
Team sport and all are guilty
… but Bell is on my shit list. Seems like there is always something. Weather in a suspension or he is hurt. Very talented but when we need him, hes not there. Always something.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
01-23-2017, 01:13 AM
BB

From the opening drive, he was off. Coates had his man beat, and BB underthrew him. Multiple times, BB had 4-5 seconds to survey the field, and still threw errant passes. I guess that I was wrong, and the aforementioned NFL Network poll was correct: BB deserved to be the lowest rated QB of the four remaining.

Hamilton didn't help by dropping TWO TD passes.

Neither did the 1st-&-goal debacle.


Math: that's 24 points left on the field. Ben was perfect on that throw but why throw when 3rd in 1 to wr that has issues catching the ball and not just try for the first ? Anyhow up and down season and glad bs with great people like you Teegre. Take care and hope to bs in the future!

Edman
01-23-2017, 04:01 AM
At this point the Steelers should offer Josh McDaniels head coaching money to come here and run our offense. I mean he knows how to draw up schemes that get even second rate receivers WIDE THE FUCK OPEN.

The Pats have the best Defense-reading Quarterback in the league whos offense historically excels against Zone Defenses, going up against a team that primarily runs a Zone Defense.

That is why they are "wide the fuck open".

Don't give him too much credit. McDaniels is no Offensive genius.

j-d-s
01-23-2017, 06:14 AM
This defense is no better minus Antwon Blake than it was with him, and he was only a minor piece in an otherwise larger failure.

Nah. Antwon Blake leaving made the defense better. He just is so bad that giving a roster spot to him is wasted. Of course it did not improve much either, but Antwon Blake was and still is one of the worst players who currently is on a 53-man NFL roster.

Count Steeler
01-23-2017, 06:40 AM
I am not a Coates fan, but on that first drop, the defender did knock his forearm, just before the ball arrived. If roles are reversed, I'm pretty there is a flag on the play. I don't understand why the announcers didn't even mention the defender on Coates.

JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue
01-23-2017, 07:02 AM
I am not a Coates fan, but on that first drop, the defender did knock his forearm, just before the ball arrived. If roles are reversed, I'm pretty there is a flag on the play. I don't understand why the announcers didn't even mention the defender on Coates. Coates is horrible and has heck of talent but can't catch! No matter the talent if you can catch worthless!

SteelerFanInStl
01-23-2017, 08:56 AM
Maybe I am seeing it different. IDK

From my perspective, what I saw was that if Coates makes that catch, he walks in for a TD... because, he had his man beat. That said, I also remember him having to slow up.

That's the problem. He didn't HAVE to slow up. He did and then he couldn't even reach the ball. Coates completely misjudged the ball. If he plays it correctly, he has a TD.

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Ben was inaccurate, the drops didn't help matters but the guy just isn't up to the task on the road. Bryant won't help the fact he is not mobile and looks like a shell of his former self especially on the road. This loss was a total team collapse and looked ugly from every angle, Ben shouldn't be blamed exclusively for the loss but who can ignore his decline?

You keep saying this and you're completely wrong.

86WARD
01-23-2017, 10:13 AM
If I had to give gameballs, it would be to Ben, Eli Rogers for stepping up and D-Will for coming in and being somewhat productive in Bells absence.

Goats would have to be the DBs and the coaching staff for not adjusting anything from half to half and year to year...they will never beat the Patriots in New England...lol. They need to get them at home. Also add Coates in there...he's just terrible.

zulater
01-23-2017, 01:40 PM
Additional goats. Both kickers. First two punts, a shank and then punt it into the end zone when a good punts pins them inside their 15, a great one inside their 10. Then of course the missed extra point. Both kickers looked as though they were squeezing grapefruits into grapes with their assholes.