RANT thread for the MEDIA

[teegre]

Post your rants about the talking heads here.


I'll start it off...

Every radio show that I listened to today, was talking about how the Packers are the "hottest" team in the NFL. One pundit even stated: "Their seven-game winning streak is the longest current streak."

Uh... what??? The Steelers have won EIGHT in a row. :huh:

[tube517]

Screw NFLN and BSPN, CBS and FOX.

I hope the Steelers stay under the radar.

[teegre]

Screw NFLN and BSPN, CBS and FOX.

I hope the Steelers stay under the radar.

The Steelers do indeed seem to play better when they are the underdogs.



btw: Even local San Diego sports-talk radio was taking about how the Packers are the team with the longest winning streak. I must be "new" math. :lol:

[JimHarbaugh'ssoakedtissue]

Post your rants about the talking heads here.


I'll start it off...

Every radio show that I listened to today, was talking about how the Packers are the "hottest" team in the NFL. One pundit even stated: "Their seven-game winning streak is the longest current streak."

Uh... what??? The Steelers have won EIGHT in a row. :huh: ESPN was slobbing over Rodgers nob because of the Hail Marry and etc all day. Started from Mike and Mike. Dupree got a lot of attention though for his hit. Most though wanted to talk about the Packers period. Next week they will be slobbing Brady's nob and how he dominated the Texans. Ps. WTG Clemson!

[Butch]

They also give Dak the best record for a rookie QB completely disregarding Ben's record of 14-1. And lest we forget he beat the pats who were on a 22 game win streak and the eagles who were on an 8 game win streak. Neither of these games were close.

[teegre]

They also give Dak the best record for a rookie QB completely disregarding Ben's record of 14-1. And lest we forget he beat the pats who were on a 22 game win streak and the eagles who were on an 8 game win streak. Neither of these games were close.

YES!!!
I knew that there was another similar one that was bugging me.

Dak's first sixteen games: 13-3
BB's first sixteen games: 15-1

For some reason, I was under the impression that 15 is bigger (better) than 13. Thankfully, ESPNFLN set me straight. :jerkit:

[Nadroj 20]

The Superbowl the media wants to have is Patriots vs. Packers. They would love to promote Brady vs Rodgers for two straight weeks.

[salamander]

The Superbowl the media wants to Patriots vs. Packers. They would love to promote Brady vs Rodgers for two straight weeks.

They would completely blow their load if that happens.

[Butch]

I would argue they want patriots cowboys...but then again I am in Texas so maybe I am just hearing it more down here.

[LloydWoodson]

Frankly the Steelers get a lot of hype from ESPN as well. Steelers were number 1 in the "power rankings" after week 1 or so which was also BS.

I don't care about the media. They overhype anyone. Weren't the Bengals supposedly to win the AFC North and make noise in the playoffs? Even though they haven't won a playoff game since 1990?

[SteelerFanInStl]

Too many to list. It's why I can't stand to watch/listen to most of them any more.

[Iron Steeler]

Post your rants about the talking heads here.


I'll start it off...

Every radio show that I listened to today, was talking about how the Packers are the "hottest" team in the NFL. One pundit even stated: "Their seven-game winning streak is the longest current streak."

Uh... what??? The Steelers have won EIGHT in a row. :huh:

Shhhhh....

Dont tell anyone...

Tell them this... Our defense sucks, and we can't control the clock with our run game.
Tell them that.

[tube517]

I would argue they want patriots cowboys...but then again I am in Texas so maybe I am just hearing it more down here.

I agree with this. They have been all over Dak and Zeke's balls all season.

All the bandwagon Crygirl fans all of a sudden flying their flags around here and wearing their gear. :rolleyes:

[teegre]

Personally, the Rodgers hype I can actually handle, because he's flat-out amazing. And, I don't really care about their opinions of the Steelers...

...but, when they misconstrue facts (7 is now more than 8) in order to pump up a story, it bugs me.

[Count Steeler]

Personally, the Rodgers hype I can actually handle, because he's flat-out amazing. And, I don't really care about their opinions of the Steelers...

...but, when they misconstrue facts (7 is now more than 8) in order to pump up a story, it bugs me.

See you are missing the adjectives.

A Green Bay Rodgers angelic winning streak of 7 is greater than a Steelers Roethlisberger rapist winning streak of 8.

[DesertSteel]

Chris Collinsworth.

[Born2Steel]

Chris Collinsworth.

Chris still has SOME bias, for sure. But he comes across as a terrible towel waving maniac compared to Boomer.

[fansince'76]

Let the media hang on the Patriots' and Packers' nutsacks.

[DesertSteel]

Chris still has SOME bias, for sure. But he comes across as a terrible towel waving maniac compared to Boomer.
He's not anti-Steeler, just annoying. Captain Obvious.

[tube517]

What's getting worse are these shows where the hosts are such flagrant hacks:


First Take
Undisputed
Whitcock and Cowturd's show whatever it's called.

I don't watch any of them but they get posted on Twitter or other social media alot.

[steel striker]

I can't watch those shows too much steeler bias and, cowherd is a bigtime Brady/cheat fan.

[Mojouw]

Personally, the Rodgers hype I can actually handle, because he's flat-out amazing. And, I don't really care about their opinions of the Steelers...

...but, when they misconstrue facts (7 is now more than 8) in order to pump up a story, it bugs me.

I think that is why the Packers game got all the hype in the media this week. Rodgers was just awesome from like the middle of the second quarter on. He almost single-handedly beat the Giants. I know the score was close, but for almost an entire half, the Giants were dominating and then Rodgers kinda woke up and took over. It was great to watch.

In contrast, the Steelers win was boring for anyone that is not a Steelers fan. No casual viewer/non-partisan fan wants to watch a 10 play all running death march of drive - even if they should appreciate it as a football fan. Additionally, after going up 20-3 or whatever, the Steelers kinda dropped it into a lower gear and cruised the rest of the way. A great formula for winning a playoff game in December, but not really much of a storyline for the media carnival barkers to get excited about. No one wants to hear about pulling tackles, the key stalk blocks that AB made, how Dupree might killed Moore, etc. That stuff is boring and doesn't make for "hawt taaaeeeekeeees" the next day. "Is Rodgers the most elite QB ever or just the elitest QB?" or "Click here to see the 15 greatest Hail Mary's ever!"

Although, if I was in charge of ESPN, I would've raked the Steelers and Roethlisberger over the coals for having a crappy second half and staying in the game to throw up random interceptions!

[Mojouw]

Here is another thing, I can't remember the last TV show I watched that actually "analyzed" the NFL? It is all "having a take" and recency bias opinions.

I remember loving watching NFL Primetime when it was its own show and Berman would say random Chris Berman things and then Tom Jackson would show you why a team won by breaking down some key plays.

Now it is basically people yelling over a Youtube highlight real. It is amazing to me that with all the media attention and content that the NFL drives, when/where did you last watch or read someone really breaking down football from technical perspective and getting into the nuts and bolts of why teams are winning or losing in the NFL? I can't think of many places - none on television and only a few if you really hunt around the internet.

[Nadroj 20]

I would argue they want patriots cowboys...but then again I am in Texas so maybe I am just hearing it more down here.

That's a valid argument. They would be happy with either, but I just think they want the QB battle. Brady v. Rodgers is more appealing then Brady v. Prescott.

[tube517]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18390270/patriots-cowboys-super-bowl-li-worth-rooting-2016-nfl

Naw, FOX would want Cheats-Crygirls** for TV ratings. I hate the Crygirls with all my blood and sweat but they do get great ratings.

2nd choice would be Marsha vs Discount Double Check

[teegre]

I think that is why the Packers game got all the hype in the media this week.

...

I would've raked the Steelers and Roethlisberger over the coals for having a crappy second half and staying in the game to throw up random interceptions!

Excellent point.

[teegre]

Here is another thing, I can't remember the last TV show I watched that actually "analyzed" the NFL? It is all "having a take" and recency bias opinions.

I remember loving watching NFL Primetime when it was its own show and Berman would say random Chris Berman things and then Tom Jackson would show you why a team won by breaking down some key plays.

Now it is basically people yelling over a Youtube highlight real. It is amazing to me that with all the media attention and content that the NFL drives, when/where did you last watch or read someone really breaking down football from technical perspective and getting into the nuts and bolts of why teams are winning or losing in the NFL? I can't think of many places - none on television and only a few if you really hunt around the internet.

Journalism has become "Have a take, don't suck."

For radio-show call-ins, that is fine... and very entertaining. But for journalists paid to analyze the game, well... that type of reporting (as you perfectly described it: "yelling over a Youtube highlight real") is the opposite of analysis.

[Born2Steel]

If we were to not make it, I would love to see a SB1 rematch. GBvsKC. Just so I can say, '50years and nothing's changed'!

[Psycho Ward 86]

Ok the win streak thing being completely wrong is problematic, but damn lol. What a bunch of petty people. Why are we shitting on the league's leading rusher, the best (arguably) rookie QB ever, and the league's best QB? Especially considering 2 of those players torched us. Take it out on the media geez :lol:. Or you can do what i do and choose not to care most of the time.

Rodgers TD:INT ratio is 22:0 in the last 8 games...No one's been better in that span of time. Of course the media is going to hang on his nuts. Who else are they supposed to turn to?

[Mojouw]

Journalism has become "Have a take, don't suck."

For radio-show call-ins, that is fine... and very entertaining. But for journalists paid to analyze the game, well... that type of reporting (as you perfectly described it: "yelling over a Youtube highlight real") is the opposite of analysis.

Couldn't agree more. I honestly don't think anyone is "analyzing" football anymore aside from niche sites on the internet.

[Mojouw]

Ok the win streak thing being completely wrong is problematic, but damn lol. What a bunch of petty people. Why are we shitting on the league's leading rusher, the best (arguably) rookie QB ever, and the league's best QB? Especially considering 2 of those players torched us. Take it out on the media geez :lol:. Or you can do what i do and choose not to care most of the time.

Rodgers TD:INT ratio is 22:0 in the last 8 games...No one's been better in that span of time. Of course the media is going to hang on his nuts. Who else are they supposed to turn to?

I also have to totally agree with that as well!

I mean Rodgers called his shot after the 'Skins game. He basically said we are going to run the table. Then went out and torched everyone in his path. I mean he might just be the best in the business right now. Honestly, if anyone on here hasn't seen alot of Rodgers play, please go do that as soon as you can. He is just ridiculous. Makes throws that few others can make and a few that I'm not sure others can even attempt let alone make.

[43Hitman]

Couldn't agree more. I honestly don't think anyone is "analyzing" football anymore aside from niche sites on the internet.NFL Edge Match-up with Sal, Jaws and Merril Hodge on ESPN is about the only show that I can think of that actually breaks down film. The only problem is that its on at strange times, I set my DVR for it when I can find it.

[Mojouw]

NFL Edge Match-up with Sal, Jaws and Merril Hodge on ESPN is about the only show that I can think of that actually breaks down film. The only problem is that its on at strange times, I set my DVR for it when I can find it.

I forgot about that one! I bailed on cable awhile back and tend to forget about some of the more "obscure" shows. Does Showtime still have a like Wednesday wrap-up show that breaks some stuff down as well?

[43Hitman]

I forgot about that one! I bailed on cable awhile back and tend to forget about some of the more "obscure" shows. Does Showtime still have a like Wednesday wrap-up show that breaks some stuff down as well?That, I'm not sure about. The only thing I watch on Showtime is Homeland. Funny you mentioned that you bailed on cable a while back, we're strongly considering it since we only watch about one show per pay channel.

[fansince'76]

Couldn't agree more. I honestly don't think anyone is "analyzing" football anymore aside from niche sites on the internet.

Well, an entire generation was raised on the following: "If the receiver catches it in the endzone, then boom, that's a touchdown." :lol:

[Mojouw]

That, I'm not sure about. The only thing I watch on Showtime is Homeland. Funny you mentioned that you bailed on cable a while back, we're strongly considering it since we only watch about one show per pay channel.

It has worked for us. The only drawback is that you lose out on live sports and you kinda/sorta gotta get comfortable with "pirating" things if you want to stay current. For instance, official Girlfriend of Mojouw (oohhhh. A timely TMQB reference!) is all caught up on Homeland, but that is only because we have torrented the episodes not on the streaming services we do pay for.

Another option we have been doing more of recently is swapping streaming services passwords to get at content. Our Netflix for your HBO GO or whatever. Kinda on the shady side, but what are you going to do? Continue to pay for stuff you don't use? Pay every streaming service that you can find $10 a month - that just shifts the problem...anyways well off the topic now.

[teegre]

Why are we shitting on the league's leading rusher, the best (arguably) rookie QB ever, and the league's best QB?

No one is shitting on David Johnson. :huh:

I wouldn't consider Cody Kessler the best rookie QB ever (but that's just my opinion).

We all agree that A.A.Ron is amazing...



Rodgers TD:INT ratio is 22:0 in the last 8 games...No one's been better in that span of time. Of course the media is going to hang on his nuts. Who else are they supposed to turn to?

Hanging on his nuts, I get... although, in that same timeframe, Le'Veon Bell has 1,002 rushing yards in just seven games (Bell did not play Week 17).

Plus, Bell has one more consecutive victory (which is main contention).

[Psycho Ward 86]

No one is shitting on David Johnson. :huh:

I wouldn't consider Cody Kessler the best rookie QB ever (but that's just my opinion).

We all agree that A.A.Ron is amazing...



Hanging on his nuts, I get... although, in that same timeframe, Le'Veon Bell has 1,002 rushing yards in just seven games (Bell did not play Week 17).

Plus, Bell has one more consecutive victory (which is main contention).

um. why are you inserting david johnson and cody kessler into a conversation where im clearly talking about ezekiel elliot and dak prescott? i dont know what kind of media outlets you're watching, but the media's hanging on Bell's nuts just fine. everywhere you look theyre talking about his rushing yards in the past 7 games and comparing its superiority to Emmitt Smith. Media talked plenty about his scrimmage yards/game pace in comparison to Priest Holmes and Jim Brown. And made sure to make note that he is the only player to ever average 100 rush yards + 50 receiving yards a game in NFL history. Thats all pretty elite company. Man oh man, we sound like a bunch of Kardashians that can never get enough attention. Whatever happened to loving being overlooked as we drop other teams for L's?

Pretty sure I remember someone on another thread talking about how "lucky" Rodgers is with his hail mary's. Right, because that totally discounts his body of work. You don't score 44 TD's in a season on accident. Not entirely unsurprising. I live in Wisconsin and packer fans scrutinize Rodgers even harder than steeler fans scrutinize Ben.

[teegre]

um. why are you inserting david johnson and cody kessler into a conversation where im clearly talking about ezekiel elliot and dak prescott? i dont know what kind of media outlets you're watching, but the media's hanging on Bell's nuts just fine. everywhere you look theyre talking about his rushing yards in the past 7 games and comparing its superiority to Emmitt Smith. Media talked plenty about his scrimmage yards/game pace in comparison to Priest Holmes and Jim Brown. And made sure to make note that he is the only player to ever average 100 rush yards + 50 receiving yards a game in NFL history. Thats all pretty elite company. Man oh man, we sound like a bunch of Kardashians that can never get enough attention. Whatever happened to loving being overlooked as we drop other teams for L's?

Pretty sure I remember someone on another thread talking about how "lucky" Rodgers is with his hail mary's. Right, because that totally discounts his body of work. You don't score 44 TD's in a season on accident. Not entirely unsurprising. I live in Wisconsin and packer fans scrutinize Rodgers even harder than steeler fans scrutinize Ben.

Suddenly, facts matter??? Weird.

Ezekial Elliott led the league in rushing, not David Johnson.

The Steelers have the longest current winning streak in the NFL, not the Packers.


As far as Bell goes, I never said he wasn't getting attention. :huh: YOU asked who else the media could turn to; so, I answered your question. Oh, and... I answered Bell, because he has one more consecutive victory (which is my entire point).

[polamalubeast]

Even if the Steelers have 8 straight wins, Tomlin is severely criticized by some media!!!!

[Psycho Ward 86]

Suddenly, facts matter??? Weird.

Ezekial Elliott led the league in rushing, not David Johnson.

The Steelers have the longest current winning streak in the NFL, not the Packers.


As far as Bell goes, I never said he wasn't getting attention. :huh: YOU asked who else the media could turn to; so, I answered your question. Oh, and... I answered Bell, because he has one more consecutive victory (which is my entire point).

i literally agreed with you already that the bad fact checking is problematic. wtf was the point of reaffirming that? Yeah well aware that Elliot led the league in rushing, i literally was talking about it. i said who ELSE could the media turn to? the media spotlight is already squarely on guys like Rodgers and Bell...

#Kardashians

[teegre]

i literally agreed with you already that the bad fact checking is problematic. wtf was the point of reaffirming that? Yeah well aware that Elliot led the league in rushing, i literally was talking about it. i said who ELSE could the media turn to? the media spotlight is already squarely on guys like Rodgers and Bell...

#Kardashians

You agreed... and then proceeded to add more... which I responded to. :huh:


You asked a question, and then someone answers. Weird.


btw: Stating that BB has more wins (15 wins) as a rookie QB is not "shitting" on Ezekial Elliott (13 wins). Whereas, calling someone a Kardashian for wanting the facts straight, is indeed "shitting" on them.

[Butch]

Ok the win streak thing being completely wrong is problematic, but damn lol. What a bunch of petty people. Why are we shitting on the league's leading rusher, the best (arguably) rookie QB ever, and the league's best QB? Especially considering 2 of those players torched us. Take it out on the media geez :lol:. Or you can do what i do and choose not to care most of the time.

Rodgers TD:INT ratio is 22:0 in the last 8 games...No one's been better in that span of time. Of course the media is going to hang on his nuts. Who else are they supposed to turn to?


If you really don't care why are you calling your fellow board members petty? Nobody here called out Elliot, nobody said anything about him until you mention him in your post.

As for Prescott you say arguably but that's not what I am hearing from the press. I am hearing he has the best rookie QB season in history (this was on espn). Completely ignoring the fact that Ben had more wins 14-1, more consecutive wins 14, and beat one team on a 22 game win streak patriots and another that had won 8 in a row eagles in consecutive weeks. Ben did not play the last game of the season his rookie year or it the streak may have been more. This is what I am bitching about not presenting the facts and completely ignoring what Ben did his rookie year. Of course it will be said that Ben didn't do much as this was already a Great team. I will say that it was just 2 years ago that the cowboys were in the playoffs with Romo so how is that any different than Ben?

This Bitch is about how the media pimps some while discounting others.

[pczach]

Pretty sure I remember someone on another thread talking about how "lucky" Rodgers is with his hail mary's. Right, because that totally discounts his body of work. You don't score 44 TD's in a season on accident. Not entirely unsurprising. I live in Wisconsin and packer fans scrutinize Rodgers even harder than steeler fans scrutinize Ben.


It was me. I talked about it. But it was simply for the reason that you seem to be bitching about stuff here.

You are complaining that people are bitching about the media and not getting enough attention.

I talked about the luck Rodgers has on Hail Mary throws for touchdowns because you and some others were bitching about Ben Roethlisberger on a day when Ben came out on fire and helped to get the Steelers to jump on the Dolphins in the first half and win the game by 18 points. Rodgers had I think 48 yards passing and was absolutely horrible in the first half of the game against the Giants until the Hail Mary. Also, the Giants should have been up 21-0 in that game if not for dropped passes by the WR crew that was posing for pictures on the SS Minnow. Rodgers had nothing to do with the lead at halftime........NOTHING. He had forty something yards, a shitload of missed receivers, and a luckier than shit Hail Mary as the clock expired in the first half.

But our fans were bitching about Ben....and you were one of them. That was the point.

Aaron Rodgers is amazing. He's a great, great player. It's not a criticism of him. I know he's great. I'm just trying to give perspective to people that were praising Rodgers about lighting up the Giants that apparently didn't watch the game to see that the Packers should have been in a huge hole, and a lot of the depth of that hole was because of Rodgers. That's all I was saying. If people actually watched and knew what they were seeing, they would understand that.

I don't understand why you're jumping on teegre about a harmless post that was brought up to vent and to get some laughs. I think you're smart and I agree with a lot of the stuff you post, but I just don't understand the angst about some things in threads recently.

[Psycho Ward 86]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[DesertSteel]

Am I the only one who can't stand to listen to the knucklehead ex-players on Total Access on the NFL Network? Willie McGinnest, Reggie Wayne, even Ike Taylor. They are actually painful to listen to as the stumble through their words and expose the fact that they aren't following along and are not watching film. They are dreadful!

Last night, Willie is talking about how LeVeon is bad in pass protection. Are you kidding me?! They pay you for that crap analysis?!

[fansince'76]

Am I the only one who can't stand to listen to the knucklehead ex-players on Total Access on the NFL Network? Willie McGinnest, Reggie Wayne, even Ike Taylor. They are actually painful to listen to as the stumble through their words and expose the fact that they aren't following along and are not watching film. They are dreadful!

No. Emmitt "Smiff" and his butchery of the English language was the WORST, though.

[tube517]

Am I the only one who can't stand to listen to the knucklehead ex-players on Total Access on the NFL Network? Willie McGinnest, Reggie Wayne, even Ike Taylor. They are actually painful to listen to as the stumble through their words and expose the fact that they aren't following along and are not watching film. They are dreadful!

Last night, Willie is talking about how LeVeon is bad in pass protection. Are you kidding me?! They pay you for that crap analysis?!

I saw that McGinest quote in Steelers Depot. Laughable.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/01/willie-mcginest-thinks-leveon-bell-isnt-great-pass-protector/


He also thought Cam Heyward was still active. Dumbass.

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No. Emmitt "Smiff" and his butchery of the English language was the WORST, though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGT08DTk3NM :chuckle:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-7GjL2SlUo -> this one is actually sad.

[pczach]

No. Emmitt "Smiff" and his butchery of the English language was the WORST, though.

Remember how bad Joe Montana was????

The dude couldn't get out of his own way verbally, and was about as exciting as watching the spin cycle in the laundry room.

I'm almost falling asleep just thinking about it.

[teegre]

The Emmitt Smith mock drafts are always good for a laugh.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2008emmitt.php

[Born2Steel]

LOL! Is that real?