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Renegade
11-18-2016, 09:42 PM
This game is going to be a lot closer than it needs to be. I'm sure the Steelers will find a way to lose. I expect nothing from this team anymore. I would love a huge turnaround in the season right now. Here we go steelers, here we go! Pittsburgh's going to the superbowl!

GBMelBlount
11-19-2016, 03:54 PM
Which Ben will show up?

Renegade
11-19-2016, 08:19 PM
probably the one that falls behind 20-10 in the 4th and then can move the ball perfectly all of a sudden only to come up short 23-17. we have all seen it so many times.

salamander
11-20-2016, 06:17 AM
No way the Steelers cap off a 4 game losing streak by losing to the winless Browns.....right?

:behindsofa:

faninyork
11-20-2016, 09:33 AM
I think we win but the Browns still put up 27 points on this defense.

Edman
11-20-2016, 11:55 AM
Bud Dupree makes his debut on Defense today.

Not expecting much on Offense. Ben is not himself on the road, and our WR's are surprisingly bad.

This will be an ugly game.

WCSteeler
11-20-2016, 12:02 PM
The Steelers have lost 4 in a row, haven't won on the road in 2 months and just lost one of their best defensive players. How does this team respond?

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 12:08 PM
:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:08 PM
stupid defense

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burns got away with a push off

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 12:08 PM
Holy crap! an interception by a CB

86WARD
11-20-2016, 12:10 PM
Artie!!! He da greatest!!! So much promise!!!

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 12:10 PM
ANd that is why you keep running Artie out there.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 12:11 PM
Nice run by Bell.

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 12:14 PM
Nice Bell.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:15 PM
bell...nice

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 12:15 PM
Holy Shit! A block in the run game by Jesse James!

stillers4me
11-20-2016, 12:15 PM
AJ Green just got carted off in the Bengals game.

Method28
11-20-2016, 12:19 PM
Anything less than a double digit win to me would be very disappointing.

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SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:20 PM
wont be many fg's today

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ive never seen a rb used as much as bell

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gotta have 6 here

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cmon no 3's

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 12:20 PM
Bell's usage certainly rivals or even exceeds that of guys like Marshall Faulk, Tomlinson, early Bears era Forte and McCoy when he was an Eagle.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:20 PM
fuckin fg

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 12:21 PM
I had wanted 7, but at least we got 3.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:25 PM
wind is gonna be a major factor this game

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 12:27 PM
sacked!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:30 PM
why was a flag called late

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kill our damn selves every time

86WARD
11-20-2016, 12:30 PM
Ugh...dumb Burns penalty and then shit for tackling...

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:31 PM
timmons has been solid for a while now no matter what anybody says

43Hitman
11-20-2016, 12:31 PM
3rd and long makes me nervous...lets go D

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:32 PM
you watch baltimore will end up beating the cowboys

43Hitman
11-20-2016, 12:33 PM
SACK!!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:33 PM
browns are terrible

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 12:34 PM
Timmons showing some pass rush skills

86WARD
11-20-2016, 12:34 PM
Hargraeve with the sack.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:42 PM
im glad brown didnt try to catch that cause i do believe it would have been a fumble

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rogers has to catch that

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i like coby hamilton

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decastro has regressed

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 12:48 PM
Well, at least we got another 3.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 12:48 PM
Gannon said it right...Bell looks so slow but he's so fast his patience is just phenomenal. At some point, when he starts to lose speed and skill, that patience may work against him but right now...it's ridiculously good. It's my favorite thing about Bell. Always has been.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:49 PM
pathetic

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we have to finish drives with 6

86WARD
11-20-2016, 12:49 PM
Come on offense...how is that shove not a penalty on Cleveland? That's b/s...that's just unsportsmanlike at its best...lol.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 12:51 PM
I guess you can just shove Qb's not named Brady as much as you like now?

Also, as mentioned by others upthread, does anyone remember another back that runs like Bell?

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:55 PM
I guess you can just shove Qb's not named Brady as much as you like now?

Also, as mentioned by others upthread, does anyone remember another back that runs like Bell?its amazing his conditioning

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they will get 6 you watch

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nice moats

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 12:55 PM
Sacked again!!!!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 12:56 PM
i want harrison to get a sack to break steelers record

Rotorhead
11-20-2016, 12:59 PM
Can't watch the game, how is JH playing?

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:00 PM
Can't watch the game, how is JH playing?were playing ok because browns offense is terrible

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:01 PM
Let's get some points O

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:01 PM
we need 6 before half then get the ball back after the half

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:15 PM
kick the damn fg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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this is stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:16 PM
Tomlin is an idiot...

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 01:16 PM
This is hilarious.

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 01:16 PM
:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:16 PM
that was a stupid play call no matter what anybody says...should have kicked the fg

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 01:17 PM
Nice!!!

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:17 PM
Browns bail Tomlin out but that was just straight stupid...

faninyork
11-20-2016, 01:17 PM
I have no words for this. This guy's (Tomlin) arrogance is unbelievable.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 01:18 PM
The Browns are just terrible. I actually feel sorry for them.

pczach
11-20-2016, 01:18 PM
That was an eternity!:pop2:

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:18 PM
This 2-point attempt makes some sense.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 01:19 PM
Tomlin just told the Browns he viewing them as an inter-squad scrimmage.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:20 PM
i will not defend that call even though it went our way

pczach
11-20-2016, 01:38 PM
Harrison got tackled right in front of the ref. How the fuck do you not call that hold?

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:39 PM
I guess you can just shove Qb's not named Brady as much as you like now?

Also, as mentioned by others upthread, does anyone remember another back that runs like Bell?

I can't remember anyone that runs like Bell.

Godfather
11-20-2016, 01:39 PM
Big Bonehead should have been more aware of the game clock.

I guess it doesn't matter anyway since Cool Shades was going for the TD no matter what. The end of the half was an absolute clown show on both sides.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:41 PM
Browns game plan is just terrible...they should be feeding the ball to Crowell over and over and over and over...

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 01:42 PM
UGH!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:42 PM
awful

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:43 PM
Lol...what the F.

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 01:43 PM
WTG Harrison!!!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:43 PM
HARRISON BREAKS RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:44 PM
Who said McCullers should be in on the run?

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:44 PM
SILVERBACK!!! Congrats! Well deserved!

pczach
11-20-2016, 01:45 PM
Who said McCullers should be in on the run?


He keeps driving the man in front of him into the offensive backfield. Good game out of him so far.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 01:47 PM
Was Dupree active today?

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He keeps driving the man in front of him into the offensive backfield. Good game out of him so far.

Yup. He may not have any "moves" but not sure he needs one. He just overpowers most lineman.

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Hue Jackson has no stones.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:47 PM
Lol.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 01:47 PM
Can we put the game away please???

43Hitman
11-20-2016, 01:49 PM
Big congrats go to James Harrison for obtaining such a career milestone. James Harrison Steelers sack leader has a nice ring to it. I really hope he makes the Hall, however I realize this is a tall order due to his shortened prime years*. But damn he was an unstoppable beast for about 4.5 years.


*Goodell era

Hawkman
11-20-2016, 01:51 PM
Browns game plan is just terrible...they should be feeding the ball to Crowell over and over and over and over...

Really? He's 7 carries for 8 yards. I agree for our sake.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:54 PM
I believe Dupree was active. He wasn't on the inactive list at noon.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 01:57 PM
Really? He's 7 carries for 8 yards. I agree for our sake.

Yeah. The run defense is typically terrible. Last time Pittsburgh was without Heyward, Ajayi ran for over 200, so yeah...putting your head down and running with Crowell would make just a little bit of sense.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:02 PM
Nice lookout block by Foster...

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:04 PM
fucking green...we activated him for that?

Steeldude
11-20-2016, 02:06 PM
Has Dupree seen any game time yet?

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:12 PM
wtf...we cant even get a damn interception????

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3 defenders there and they cant even catch????

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then have a penalty puts them at mid field...there is your undisciplined team

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tackle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Has Dupree seen any game time yet?no but i just saw jarvis jones in there so they will score

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:16 PM
Nice work by Moats...5th Steelers sack on the day

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:16 PM
josh mccown is an upgrade

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:16 PM
Dupree is in that "Roethlisberger Relief Role".

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:20 PM
we cant get an interception only if its stuck to their chest

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they will get a first down

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pitiful

pczach
11-20-2016, 02:20 PM
Davis has to make that play on the QB.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:20 PM
This game is way too close for what it is...lol.

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:21 PM
please put james harrison back in. Jarvis is too disappointing

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:21 PM
That's what happens when you send 5 or more. You get a DE covering a RB. Be careful what you wish for!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:22 PM
here comes the problems

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:22 PM
This game is going to go to overtime and Ben is going to make a critical mistake and the Browns will win 20-17...lol.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:22 PM
well that helps

43Hitman
11-20-2016, 02:22 PM
lol nice xp

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:22 PM
Is it weird that I'm rooting really hard for the Cowboys? Not sure that has ever happened before!

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:23 PM
that sucked....Burns should have been covering to the inside, James rode him back from the outside. That could have been stopped.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:25 PM
this team is so bad

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we HAVE to win this game!!!

lipps83
11-20-2016, 02:26 PM
Browns comeback in progress.

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this team is so bad

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we HAVE to win this game!!!

If the Browns were 9-0, I would give the Steelers a chance. Since Browns are 0-9, the Browns are just barely going to steal a victory.

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:29 PM
how obvious a facemark was that that wasn't called?

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I'm really getting pissed off at this team

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:30 PM
yep here comes the comeback

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score 30 points against dallas and you can only muster 17 points against the browns....yes they have major issues

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:32 PM
yep here comes the comeback

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score 30 points against dallas and you can only muster 17 points against the browns....yes they have major issues

But they are in Cleveland where it's so tough to play!! A hostile environment if you will. :jerkit:

lipps83
11-20-2016, 02:32 PM
yep here comes the comeback

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score 30 points against dallas and you can only muster 17 points against the browns....yes they have major issues

The Browns are obviously much better than their 0-9 record is showing.


HAHAHAHAHA!

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:33 PM
Steelers don't even have a good Sportsmanship Nominee...

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:34 PM
we cant get an int...its pathetic

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penalties kill us

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:34 PM
Clearly Heyward and Jarvis are the problem with the pass rush...lol.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:34 PM
Interesting to see Timmons getting some run as the outside rusher in the 3rd down packages.

And as I type that he commits a dumb penalty.

lipps83
11-20-2016, 02:35 PM
3rd and 17 for the Browns. They should convert.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:35 PM
Worked that time!

Also, if the Ravens continue to only be able to score 10 against Dallas - does that mean Harbaugh needs to be fired or that they are an undisciplined team?

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:38 PM
fucking put this game away!!!!!!!!!

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Worked that time!

Also, if the Ravens continue to only be able to score 10 against Dallas - does that mean Harbaugh needs to be fired or that they are an undisciplined team?Harbaugh gets a pass cause hes owned us for a while...lol

lipps83
11-20-2016, 02:40 PM
Also, if the Ravens continue to only be able to score 10 against Dallas - does that mean Harbaugh needs to be fired or that they are an undisciplined team?

The Ravens would be happy with a 2-14 season, as long as those 2 wins are against the Steelers.


Ravens own Tomlin.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:41 PM
fuckin PI and didnt call it

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:42 PM
The Ravens would be happy with a 2-14 season, as long as those 2 wins are against the Steelers.


Ravens own Tomlin.

They may own Tomlin but to say that any franchise would be happy with a two win season is ridiculous and I think you know it!

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fuckin PI and didnt call it

They simply don't call PI for the Steelers WRs. Haven't all year. It is getting ridiculous.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:42 PM
Jeez...

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:44 PM
we need a turnover!!!!

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mitchell shut the fuck up

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:44 PM
Mike Mitchell just broke Pryor.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:45 PM
mitchell hit hard but I do not like him at all...matter of fact i think he sucks

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:46 PM
mitchell hit hard but I do not like him at all...matter of fact i think he sucks

Yeah. I think he has been over rated in the NFL since Day 1.

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 02:46 PM
:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:46 PM
finally put this game away!!!!!!!!!!1

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:46 PM
YEAH!!!!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:47 PM
they will rule it incomplete

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:47 PM
Shazier is the key element in this defense. When he plays well - things happen.

pczach
11-20-2016, 02:48 PM
Shazier if fast! Wow, huge play!

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Is everyone still convinced the Steelers will lose this game?

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:48 PM
Did anyone notice, has Hargrave been playing more as a DE or a DT...I wonder if he is better as a DE right now...

Edman
11-20-2016, 02:48 PM
Shazier is the key element in this defense. When he plays well - things happen.

I think it's the matter of Jarvis Jones not being out there. He's clearly a weak link in the Defense and he sucks.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:49 PM
Worked that time!

Also, if the Ravens continue to only be able to score 10 against Dallas - does that mean Harbaugh needs to be fired or that they are an undisciplined team?

Hard to say without watching it but over the past 3 years, I would say no, he doesn't deserve to be fired. He hasn't made as many questionable decisions as some coaches and his team isn't as talented as Pittsburgh.

Nice play by Shazier!!!!

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:49 PM
ok i can breathe easier

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:50 PM
mitchell hit hard but I do not like him at all...matter of fact i think he sucks

Mediocre in any type of coverage...lowers his shoulder but rarely puts up a clean tackle. Could be replaced by just about any starting safety in the league.

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 02:51 PM
goddamn that was a hit

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:51 PM
If nothing else the Steelers are hitting some people today....lol

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:51 PM
Looks like someone FINALLY realized that Jones is better as an ILB in a 3-4. Timmons is rotating to the edge when Jones comes in.

This is what I was talking about in another thread - get creative about the roles and alignments you put players in. Don't get rigid in your thinking.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:52 PM
Tuitt...WOW!

pczach
11-20-2016, 02:52 PM
Yeah. I think he has been over rated in the NFL since Day 1.


Butler hasn't been using Mitchell the same way this year. He was dishing out humungous hits like that all last year. With the youth in the secondary, he hasn't been using him the same way this year. When he is allowed to just come up and pop people, he makes NFL receivers drop passes, get alligator arms, and has an intimidation factor that can't be denied.

He is not a great cover safety, and he is not perfect.....but man he can hit.

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:53 PM
excuse me, but THAT WASN'T HOLDING AGAINST MOATS??? The guy rode him all the way to the ground!

86WARD
11-20-2016, 02:54 PM
Looks like someone FINALLY realized that Jones is better as an ILB in a 3-4. Timmons is rotating to the edge when Jones comes in.

This is what I was talking about in another thread - get creative about the roles and alignments you put players in. Don't get rigid in your thinking.

It's a start...but it is Cleveland...

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:54 PM
Butler hasn't been using Mitchell the same way this year. He was dishing out humungous hits like that all last year. With the youth in the secondary, he hasn't been using him the same way this year. When he is allowed to just come up and pop people, he makes NFL receivers drop passes, get alligator arms, and has an intimidation factor that can't be denied.

He is not a great cover safety, and he is not perfect.....but man he can hit.

Yeah, I'll agree with that. Mitchell has been forced into the role of QB in the secondary - who else is going to do it? He is the only experienced starter.

While there are lots of things that I don't like about Mitchell - his hitting is not one of them.

pczach
11-20-2016, 02:56 PM
Mediocre in any type of coverage...lowers his shoulder but rarely puts up a clean tackle. Could be replaced by just about any starting safety in the league.


Not when he's put in a position in the field and scheme that plays to his strengths. Remember, he moved to FS because of the deficiencies at safety. He is a natural SS.

People seem to forget how much he helped this defense last year with that vicious hitting and intimidation.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 02:56 PM
It's a start...but it is Cleveland...

For sure! But at least they are trying things. This week it had great results, but I am even more excited about the process rather than the results.

Whatever flavor of zone-bltizing 3-4 you want to role out there, it works best when you start moving people all over the place and do totally unexpected things. Something we have not seen from this team so far in 2016.

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 02:59 PM
These Lebeau like 10 yard cushions are really frustrating. I had hoped Butler would be a little more aggressive. I'm not expecting a Buddy Ryan 46 defense with press man coverage but just conceding these 6-8 yard passes is just infuriating

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 03:00 PM
These Lebeau like 10 yard cushions are really frustrating. I had hoped Butler would be a little more aggressive. I'm not expecting a Buddy Ryan 46 defense with press man coverage but just conceding these 6-8 yard passes is just infuriating
Look at the clock and scoreboard. I suspect that it is by design and might not be the case if the game situation was different.

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 03:00 PM
lame penalty

86WARD
11-20-2016, 03:01 PM
Come on

SteelMayhem72
11-20-2016, 03:01 PM
our team needs to get on the juggs machines

pczach
11-20-2016, 03:01 PM
They could have had 5 interceptions today.

86WARD
11-20-2016, 03:02 PM
Gotta catch that Artie

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 03:03 PM
Look at the clock and scoreboard. I suspect that it is by design and might not be the case if the game situation was different.

It's been pretty much all day. (Last 5 games?) The browns suck and haven't capitalized but the receivers have been open all game.

Polamalu Princess
11-20-2016, 03:05 PM
Signed, sealed and delivered!!!

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 03:05 PM
Jarvis just doesn't have the strength or the moves to be a pass rusher.... Maybe he has a future as an insider LB but he's useless as a pass rusher.

pczach
11-20-2016, 03:05 PM
It's been pretty much all day. (Last 5 games?) The browns suck and haven't capitalized but the receivers have been open all game.


They held them to 50 yards of offense in the first half. Stop making things up to fit the negative points you're trying to make about the team.

Edman
11-20-2016, 03:06 PM
It's been pretty much all day. (Last 5 games?) The browns suck and haven't capitalized but the receivers have been open all game.


Don't move the goalposts. The Defense played really well today.

The big knock on Tomlin was beating bad teams on the road. Well he did. He beat a winless Browns Team in Cleveland.

Mojouw
11-20-2016, 03:07 PM
Good win. Want to leave this one thought here - from my perspective during the game, Chickillo is about as good a pass rusher as Jarvis. How long before fans sour on him? I am well aware of the disparity in their draft positions and by no means am arguing for more Jones playing time, but Chick really isn't any better at this point.

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 03:08 PM
Very impressed seeing Timmons rushing off the edge today. I hope they keep switching it up like that. Timmons looks like he was doing his James Harrison impression. He was quick AND powerful. Pushed his blocker into the backfield a number of times

86WARD
11-20-2016, 03:09 PM
Good win and nice showing by the D. Still some questions to be answered but a step in the right direction.

WCSteeler
11-20-2016, 03:11 PM
Burns played like a first rounder today, great effort by the front 7 as well

pepsyman1
11-20-2016, 03:13 PM
They held them to 50 yards of offense in the first half. Stop making things up to fit the negative points you're trying to make about the team.


I'm making up that they are still using 8-10 yard cushions on the wide receivers??? What team are you watching?

Hawkman
11-20-2016, 03:25 PM
8 sacks, 1 ff, 1 int ( shoulda/coulda been more) held them to 33 yards rushing (Crowell-8 carries for 10 yards). I'd say that it's a step in the right direction!

tube517
11-20-2016, 03:41 PM
Got the W and that's what is important.

Getting sacks is great but dayum. Tuitt was awesome. Don't cross the Moats.

We are missing a deep threat on offense. Ladarius Green is rusty. Cobi Bryant doesn't scare anyone.

st33lersguy
11-20-2016, 05:26 PM
Nice win. I will say though this Browns team may be the worst team since the NFL has seen since the 08 Lions

pczach
11-21-2016, 05:32 PM
I'm making up that they are still using 8-10 yard cushions on the wide receivers??? What team are you watching?

I was also replying to this post you made: "These Lebeau like 10 yard cushions are really frustrating. I had hoped Butler would be a little more aggressive. I'm not expecting a Buddy Ryan 46 defense with press man coverage but just conceding these 6-8 yard passes is just infuriating."

Conceding 6-8 yard passes all day long doesn't hold a team to 50 yards of offense in the first half. Think about it.

I understand what you were saying in general and about the style of play they often use, but in this game they were holding the Browns offense in check for nearly the entire game. Butler used different personnel in different roles today. The differences were night and day from what has been going on the last 5-6 games. It was a move in the right direction. Even the coverage was tighter today. Stay positive about it.