The dropoff from Roethlisberger to Landry Jones is steep

[stillers4me]

The Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) will be without starting quarterback Ben Roethlisberger (http://www.nfl.com/player/benroethlisberger/2506109/profile) for Week 7 versus the New England Patriots (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newenglandpatriots/profile?team=NE).


Roethlisberger will undergo surgery to "trim (https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/787854116924055552)" a torn meniscus in his left knee, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, via a source informed of the situation. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette first reported the news of Roethlisberger's injury.


The 34-year-old signal-caller played through pain in the second half of Sunday's loss to the Miami Dolphins (http://www.nfl.com/teams/miamidolphins/profile?team=MIA) after missing the majority of the second quarter with the injury. Roethlisberger described his knee as "black and blue (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000721428/article/ben-roethlisberger-to-undergo-mri-on-sore-knee)" after the game, per NFL Media's Aditi Kinkhabwala.....

Read more @ http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000722625/article/ben-roethlisberger-suffers-torn-meniscus-in-left-knee

[tube517]

Three toughest games in a row. Cheats**/Bye/@Ratbirds/Crygirls.

Could not have come at a worse time.

[pczach]

Three toughest games in a row. Cheats**/Bye/@Ratbirds/Crygirls.

Could not have come at a worse time.


At least there's a bye in there.

[tube517]

At least there's a bye in there.

Sure, bye bye season! :heh:

[Steeldude]

Why aren't people making excuses for Landry Jones like they did for Kordell?

[86WARD]

Called it...

[SteelerFanInStl]

Landry is hot garbage. He shouldn't even be on an NFL roster.

[WCSteeler]

This might turn out to benefit the Steelers in the long run. Ben is 34, in his 12th season and has suffered far more injuries over his career than any active NFL QB yet the Steelers have neglected the backup QB position (rebuilding this defense had to have come first). It's time the Steelers really start looking at a QB to groom for the future and this should be a wakeup call to the organization that maybe drafting 4 more Linebackers isn't the best corse of action. The Steelers have plenty of time to watch and determine who is a good fit and available in the upcoming draft class and I'm not talking about 3rd or 4th round pick either. Ben's career is not over but his lengthy injury history will not allow his to play for many more seasons and the Steelers/fan base need to come to grips with the fact that players get old (NFL old that is)

[LloydWoodson]

There are decent free agent options out there. Batch and Leftwich were good pick ups. So was Vick (I don't care what you think on the subject).

Steelers are in win now mode. Draft talent to help Ben win one more maybe two more if the defense improves.

What is stupid is throwing away draft picks on the Landry Jones and Dennis Dixons.

Find a Charlie Batch that can go .500 or better when Ben goes down. If a backup is playing in the playoffs it is over. Need a regular season QB who can steal a game or two nothing more.

[teegre]

Why aren't people making excuses for Landry Jones like they did for Kordell?

It's been 14 years...

[Steeldude]

It's been 14 years...

The same absurd excuses can be used in 2016. Or they could tweak some Jarvis Jones excuses.

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There are decent free agent options out there. Batch and Leftwich were good pick ups. So was Vick (I don't care what you think on the subject).

Steelers are in win now mode. Draft talent to help Ben win one more maybe two more if the defense improves.

What is stupid is throwing away draft picks on the Landry Jones and Dennis Dixons.

Find a Charlie Batch that can go .500 or better when Ben goes down. If a backup is playing in the playoffs it is over. Need a regular season QB who can steal a game or two nothing more.

Batch couldn't throw past 5 yards. Leftwich? He wasn't good either. I don't think there are any QBs available on the FA market that would be an upgrade.

[Steelermania]

Why aren't people making excuses for Landry Jones like they did for Kordell?

You've got to be kidding. Kordell was a Hall Of Famer compared to Landry Jones. If we had the 2000-2001 Kordell as a backup, I'd feel much better than I do with Landry in the role.

Finding qbs is just the hardest thing. Cleveland has burned countless first round picks, and can't even find a Flacco type. Yet Dallas drafts a guy who was on no ones radar, and he's looking like the next star qb. The Steelers picked up Gradkowski, but he's more injury prone than Batch. The Steelers never draft high enough to get a guy who is close to a sure thing. The veteran qbs who might actually be good for a game or two won't come here. They'd rather go to a Cleveland, or Chicago, where they might have a chance to start.

[WCSteeler]

There are decent free agent options out there. Batch and Leftwich were good pick ups. So was Vick (I don't care what you think on the subject).

Steelers are in win now mode. Draft talent to help Ben win one more maybe two more if the defense improves.

What is stupid is throwing away draft picks on the Landry Jones and Dennis Dixons.

Find a Charlie Batch that can go .500 or better when Ben goes down. If a backup is playing in the playoffs it is over. Need a regular season QB who can steal a game or two nothing more.

It would be stupid to draft a QB to sit behind a 34 year old, 13 season, often injured QB? So draft 4 more Linebackers? It's time

[steelreserve]

It would be stupid to draft a QB to sit behind a 34 year old, 13 season, often injured QB? So draft 4 more Linebackers? It's time

Yes, it would be stupid to draft a QB to sit behind anyone. Either you're ready to make him the starter in a year or you skip it.

Why? Pretty much THE single biggest advantage you can have in the NFL is a decent quarterback who's not yet making $20 million a year. That lets you build up (or retain) the talent around him - think two or three additional Pro Bowl level players. Draft a guy now, and by the time he's ready to start, at best you've thrown away that advantage. At worst, you've also got a quarterback controversy and have to push the old one out the door a couple years too early.

Nobody ever became a star QB by sitting on the bench. Either you get it or you don't. So no point in farting around hoping the new guy might be the replacement with 4 years of "omg is he or isn't he."

To back up your franchise QB, you sign a veteran for a low amount. Which is pretty much what we've been doing, except somehow we always manage to pick the ones who get injured themselves every time there's a slight breeze.

[Method28]

I would honestly like to see what Mettenberger could do. This team doesnt need a great QB to win. I feel we just need a QB who can make some throws from time to time and give our skill position players a chance to do damage. If thats on a screen, post pattern, drag route or go route. A guy like Leftwich, Mettenberger etc is that they have the tools to make all of those throws.

They havent put it together and will make mistakes, but this team can lean on Bell/Williams and just put the ball in Brown and Coates hands from time to time.

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[DesertSteel]

These backup QBs are all Cowher's players!

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The bottom line is that HOPE is not a strategy. Hoping that Ben stays healthy for 16 games is not panning out. For this team to win 10-12 games a year and be a contender, there should be a plan B to cover up to 4 games (more than 4 and the season's over anyway).

We need to get lucky on a 4th-5th rounder or find an aging backup who can game manage (e.g., like a Hasslebeck).

That said, I have not forgotten how LJ came through once or twice last year. Maybe he has one more. I'm not as down on him as some here. There are plenty of terrible backup QBs in this league.

[86WARD]

They had a very good back up QB in 2012 and they let him go.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161017/6f6be9d9710d6bcd6de4a20eb0c139c3.png

If they had Hoyer today, they would be very solid at that position...the opted to keep two handicapped QBs instead...

[teegre]

The same absurd excuses can be used in 2016. Or they could tweak some Jarvis Jones excuses.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm really not getting it...

Let me try again:
We all know that did not/do not like Kordell. But, it has been 14 years. Thus... I'm not sure why you're bringing him up.

[Mojouw]

For all that feel that Landry Jones is "excused" - I ask what in the blue hell else are the coaches supposed to say?

"Well, frankly he's garbage and we have absolutely no faith that he can run the offense - but we are kinda stuck here. Someone has to play QB. So he's our guy."

Other than Hoyer, its not like anyone else they have brought in has lit it up. Gradkowski's body disintegrated. Mike Vick was well past his sell by date. Tried a couple of waiver wire/UDFA dart throws that couldn't even make it through camp. And now there is Mettenberger.

Really, looking at the starting QB, let alone back-up QB situation across the league, there isn't much else they could do. They could've drafted Dak Prescott. It seems they gave it serious thought. Most of this message board freaked out at the idea of "Wasting" a 3rd or 4th round pick on a "raw passing prospect".

[lipps83]

Like, the only reason Landry Jones is still on this team is because his wife is like, BFF's, with Big Bens sister, omg.

They like, played basketball together at Oklahoma. Okay?

Did you really think they see any potential in him?

[tube517]

They had a very good back up QB in 2012 and they let him go.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161017/6f6be9d9710d6bcd6de4a20eb0c139c3.png

If they had Hoyer today, they would be very solid at that position...the opted to keep two handicapped QBs instead...

I said the same thing. I wanted him .....as a backup...not the heir to Ben.

Laundry is gone after this year as a UFA.

[Steeldude]

You've got to be kidding. Kordell was a Hall Of Famer compared to Landry Jones. If we had the 2000-2001 Kordell as a backup, I'd feel much better than I do with Landry in the role.

Finding qbs is just the hardest thing. Cleveland has burned countless first round picks, and can't even find a Flacco type. Yet Dallas drafts a guy who was on no ones radar, and he's looking like the next star qb. The Steelers picked up Gradkowski, but he's more injury prone than Batch. The Steelers never draft high enough to get a guy who is close to a sure thing. The veteran qbs who might actually be good for a game or two won't come here. They'd rather go to a Cleveland, or Chicago, where they might have a chance to start.

You must have never seen Kordell play. The bum was given a number 1 defense and running game, but still struggled again and again. I would take Jones over Kordell every time. Kordell was nothing more than WR, and a good one at that.

BR put up 3 points against the Eagles. Patriots are a better team than the Eagles.

[Steeldude]

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm really not getting it...

Let me try again:
We all know that did not/do not like Kordell. But, it has been 14 years. Thus... I'm not sure why you're bringing him up.

Simple. Jones is a QB. Why don't the same excuses apply for him as they did for the idiot? 14 years ago is irrelevant.

[teegre]

Simple. Jones is a QB. Why don't the same excuses apply for him as they did for the idiot? 14 years ago is irrelevant.

Again, clarifying...

Are you referring to coaches or fans?

[fansince'76]

You must have never seen Kordell play. The bum was given a number 1 defense and running game, but still struggled again and again.

:iagree:

Bottom line: Stewart cost us 2 SB trips. Yeah, you could argue STs for the 2nd one, but he was given two golden opportunities in the last 6 minutes of the game trailing 24-17 and threw two picks to kill both of them.

Thankfully, the Bus finally got a ring at the end of his career because his prime was pretty much wasted due to Stewart's ineptitude as a QB.

Do people honestly forget how bad Stewart was under center?

[86WARD]

Kordell was nothing more than WR, and a good one at that.

I miss Slash. He was one of the most fun players to watch...

[SteelMayhem72]

just read ben is out for 4-6 weeks...season over!!

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[SteelMayhem72]

Just read it on bleacher report

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[SteelMayhem72]

im fucking pissed...i figured if it was an actual torn miniscus it was gonna be more than 1-2 weeks like they were saying...well its 4-6 weeks

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[86WARD]

Once again, the teams lack of depth is potentially showing its ugly face. Aside from WR, the depth on this team is pretty terrible.

Once again, we will see how good or bad this coaching staff is...

[86WARD]

There was a time where the Steelers could have made a play for Nick Foles. Would have been a perfect back up quarterback.

I believe Mark Sanchez is still out there. If Jones falters, which alot expect him to do, would you be interested in signing Mark Sanchez?

[tube517]

There was a time where the Steelers could have made a play for Nick Foles. Would have been a perfect back up quarterback.

I believe Mark Sanchez is still out there. If Jones falters, which alot expect him to do, would you be interested in signing Mark Sanchez?

Booger Butt Fumble is on the Crygirls. Foles > Landry

[st33lersguy]

I would like the steelers to spend the time bens out seeing what they have in mettenberger. Of course knowing how tomlin likes to stick with players who play like absolute garbage, tomlin will probably stick with jones for the entire time Ben is out

[86WARD]

Booger Butt Fumble is on the Crygirls. Foles > Landry

Awwww...that's right. I forgot about that...

[tube517]

I would like the steelers to spend the time bens out seeing what they have in mettenberger. Of course knowing how tomlin likes to stick with players who play like absolute garbage, tomlin will probably stick with jones for the entire time Ben is out

Landry seems brittle. I doubt he makes it through 4-6 weeks.


Who is the emergency backup?

[86WARD]

Good question. Old one retired...

Mike Vick is out there...lol

[pczach]

Jones Plans On Being Cautiously Aggressive Sunday Against





By Dave Bryan (http://www.steelersdepot.com/author/davebryan/) October 19, 2016 at 12:38 pm



On Tuesday, Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin talked about how confident of a player quarterback Landry Jones is ahead of his third career start this coming Sunday against the New England Patriots. Wednesday morning, Jones exhibited that confidence when he addressed the entire team during a meeting (http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Landrys-advice-Dont-panic/bfc73183-7415-4224-82f1-03ec1b1a81e6).

“As he told us this morning, don’t panic,” said Steelers linebacker Arthur Moats, according to Teresa Varley of steelers.com.

Jones also indicated Wednesday morning that he’s not planning on playing too cautious Sunday against the Patriots.

“I think if you’re a backup in these types of situations, you can almost try to be too perfect and too careful,” said Jones. “One-time Coach (Mike) Tomlin said something along the lines of, ‘Gun fighters are going to get shot.’ For me, I have to go out there and cut it loose and play like that rather than trying to be too careful. Try to just go out there and take every check down that I can. Obviously, you have to play smart. But, you have to take what the defense gives you and try to be cautiously aggressive.”

Jones obviously faces a very daunting task on Sunday as the Patriots defense has played well over the course of the last four weeks and that has led to them allowing an average of just 11.5 points.

While Jones himself played well in relief of an injured Mike Vick in last year’s win over the Arizona Cardinals, he’s yet to put together a solid full-game performance and he’ll definitely need on Sunday at Heinz Field if the Steelers hope to upset the heavily favored Patriots at home.




http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/10/jones-plans-cautiously-aggressive-sunday-patriots/

[Steeldude]

Again, clarifying...

Are you referring to coaches or fans?

Fans.

[WCSteeler]

Yes, it would be stupid to draft a QB to sit behind anyone. Either you're ready to make him the starter in a year or you skip it.

Why? Pretty much THE single biggest advantage you can have in the NFL is a decent quarterback who's not yet making $20 million a year. That lets you build up (or retain) the talent around him - think two or three additional Pro Bowl level players. Draft a guy now, and by the time he's ready to start, at best you've thrown away that advantage. At worst, you've also got a quarterback controversy and have to push the old one out the door a couple years too early.

Nobody ever became a star QB by sitting on the bench. Either you get it or you don't. So no point in farting around hoping the new guy might be the replacement with 4 years of "omg is he or isn't he."

To back up your franchise QB, you sign a veteran for a low amount. Which is pretty much what we've been doing, except somehow we always manage to pick the ones who get injured themselves every time there's a slight breeze.

No one? Ever heard of Aaron Rodgers!

[teegre]

Fans.

So, are you saying that Steelers fans should be making excuses for Landry Jones???

[Devilsdancefloor]

jones gets 2 games tops before the other berger takes over.

[cubanstogie]

Matt Flynn would be a huge step up from Landry. If he can't lead a couple of decent drives by halftime I would hope Metteberger would at least get a shot.

[steelreserve]

I'm really hoping Jones gets some random little thing like a jammed finger that keeps him from being the #1 QB this weekend. Give Mettenberger a shot, literally no matter how badly he plays I will not be mad because at least we tried. With Jones we KNOW we are 99% guaranteed to end in failure. Even if we get a defensive TD and a special teams TD, we will still be lucky to break 17 points.

[Craic]

It would be stupid to draft a QB to sit behind a 34 year old, 13 season, often injured QB? So draft 4 more Linebackers? It's time

I could be wrong (I'm married, so I often am), but I think LloydWoodson was referring to the low-round drafting of QBs and trying to develop them as backups, not a decent mid rounder that might have the chance of being a legitimate starter someday.

[Craic]

No one? Ever heard of Aaron Rodgers!

Rodgers wasn't drafted in the era of mandated contract lengths where you must designate whether you want to keep your 1st round pick for a fifth year, after your third season, potentially throwing away millions of dollars and salary cap room (depending on bonuses and escalators, which can still be written into a rookie's contract).

[Steeldude]

just read ben is out for 4-6 weeks...season over!!

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So then you are done watching the Steelers until next season?

[Steeldude]

So, are you saying that Steelers fans should be making excuses for Landry Jones???

They made excuses for Kordell the Idiot. So why not make the same excuses for a better QB? Let's blame any bad performances on weather, coaching, OC, personal problems, racism, luck, injuries, defense, running game etc...

I am still wondering where all of the Kordell lovers wandered off to. Haha

[fansince'76]

The dropoff from Roethlisberger to Landry Jones is steephttp://makeitrainsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/weird-wild-stuff1.jpg

[DesertSteel]

I think LJ goes out and throws for 275, 2 TDs and 1 INT. If we can keep Gronk out of the end zone, we win.

[86WARD]

I think LJ goes out and throws for 275, 2 TDs and 1 INT. If we can keep Gronk out of the end zone, we win.

Keeping Gronk out will just translate to Bennett being in.

[SteelMayhem72]

So then you are done watching the Steelers until next season?
Of course not...i still root for my team with much lowered or no expectations

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