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Edman
10-09-2016, 09:48 AM
Shazier, Golden, Justin Gilbert, Marcus Gilbert, Ryan Harris, Senquez Golson, Eli Rogers, Cody Wallace, and Roosevelt Nix are inactive.

Struggling team coming to Pittsburgh, but the Jets have a tough defensive front, and Brandon Marshall is always a threat.

This is still the same team that got crushed by a rookie Quarterback. Gotta take care of business today.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 10:23 AM
This has trap game written all over it. I hope I am wrong.

polamalubeast
10-09-2016, 10:29 AM
This has trap game written all over it. I hope I am wrong.

The jets are not a bad team....They just have a brutal Schedule to start the season....Also,Remember the 1-5 Chiefs last year!

tube517
10-09-2016, 11:00 AM
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Inactives for NYJ: QB Petty, QB Hackenberg, CB Revis, G Winters, TE Bowman, WR Decker, WR JMarshall

pczach
10-09-2016, 11:35 AM
This has trap game written all over it. I hope I am wrong.


If you keep it up with this negative talk, we're going to have to remove you from this thread.

:lol:


Just kidding of course.

It absolutely makes sense. When you throw in the fact that the Jets have a great defensive front four, they are a desperate team, they have former Pittsburgh star Revis and former Steeler McClendon with leadership roles on the team, and that insures they are going to get their best shot.

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 11:40 AM
Revis is out for today's game.

salamander
10-09-2016, 11:48 AM
This has trap game written all over it. I hope I am wrong.

My thoughts exactly.

Bluecoat96
10-09-2016, 11:48 AM
I'll be writing an "oh so exciting" paper about diversity in education during the game. Oh boy. Lol. I'll follow as much as I can. I leave it to you folks to keep me updated. 😂

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Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 11:56 AM
Hey, I SAID I hoped I was wrong, that's positive, isn't it? Have fun, msafford, we'll do our best to keep you in the loop.

HUGE cheers for James Harrison!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 11:57 AM
My I should predict a loss cause I was so wrong last week...lol

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 11:59 AM
Lets go Steelers!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:00 PM
AB please dont twerk...you can do any other dance you like just dont thrust...lol...it will eventually cost us

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:03 PM
Didn't know the bumblebees were out today.

GRAYGHOST668
10-09-2016, 12:04 PM
I hate those uniforms,,,,,

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:04 PM
oh lord...they are gonna pass all day

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:04 PM
Love the bumblebees!

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:05 PM
Fitzpatrick is going to end the game 5 td's with no picks.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:05 PM
cmon D!!

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:05 PM
I see we're off to a great start... Come on, D!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:05 PM
here comes 6

Mach1
10-09-2016, 12:05 PM
:doh:

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:06 PM
THAT WAS NOT A CATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf!!!!

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
Almost intercepted. Stop them!

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
Alright, the defense held them to a field goal. Good job D.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
Trying for FG - they got 3

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
Early 3-0 Lead for Jets.

86WARD
10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
Terrible read by Fitzpatrick. He had a back wide open for the first down.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:08 PM
WTF? Refs are sleeping

GRAYGHOST668
10-09-2016, 12:09 PM
ok 3 is not bad

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:09 PM
Refs blew that one call

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:09 PM
Alright offense, take charge of this game and score a touchdown.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:10 PM
we can make it up, let's go Killer Bumble Bees!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:10 PM
how do you decline the penalty and accept it as a catch when it obviously wasnt a catch?????

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:12 PM
Ownership needs to realize the problem with the defense the last 6 years is not one of the players, but of the dumb devotion to absurd defensive philosophy brought forth by Lebeau.

It worked 15 and 20 years ago (mostly due to players employed by Steelers at the time), but hasn't really worked well in the last 10 due to evolution of offensive philosophy. It can't keep up and has been rendered invalid.

Please, just move on from him already.

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
Touchdown!

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
BOOM!

Touchdown Sammie Coates!

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
3rd and 7 - Coates1 run run run TD

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
hell yes!!!

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
​BANG!!!!!

86WARD
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
NICE!!! PLAY IT AGAIN SAMMY!!!

GRAYGHOST668
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
kick as TD woooooooo

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:13 PM
2 plays in a row and they haven't gone deep.

What is the problem with the offense?

86WARD
10-09-2016, 12:14 PM
7-3 Steelers!

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:14 PM
Nevermind, there it is.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:14 PM
72 yard bomb! Let's keep it up!

pepsyman1
10-09-2016, 12:14 PM
Wow! Perfect throw. I think we can put a fork in Bryant. No need to bring him back. Lol

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:15 PM
Wow! Perfect throw. I think we can put a fork in Bryant. No need to bring him back. Lol

Dream on.

Can't wait for next year. Offense will be even more explosive.

pepsyman1
10-09-2016, 12:15 PM
Nevermind, there it is.

Lol

hwalker84
10-09-2016, 12:15 PM
So many weapons

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:16 PM
Alright defense, its your turn.

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:16 PM
The "one trick pony" does it again....... :sarcasm:


He came into the game averaging over 21 yards per reception. Do you want more of that? Yes please!!!

ALLD
10-09-2016, 12:17 PM
I was looking for a screen to Bell. A TD is always better.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:17 PM
Chris boswell....i think best kicker in the NFL

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 12:17 PM
Dream on.

Can't wait for next year. Offense will be even more explosive.

It'll be like when you break Franchise mode on Madden.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:18 PM
looks like we are gonna have to score a lot of points

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:19 PM
At least they stopped him early this time, no gain

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:19 PM
DEEBO!!!

GRAYGHOST668
10-09-2016, 12:19 PM
Bryant will not play for the Steelers again,,,Coates has taken his spot

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:19 PM
It'll be like when you break Franchise mode on Madden.


This group of wide receivers will be frightening if they are all on the active roster. Unbelievably explosive and talented.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:19 PM
Another good stop, maybe D waking up

Or maybe not

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:20 PM
hes gonna pick apart this defense

86WARD
10-09-2016, 12:20 PM
What's with the push off...call that.

86WARD
10-09-2016, 12:21 PM
Dream on.

Can't wait for next year. Offense will be even more explosive.

Until someone gets hurt...lol.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:21 PM
ok stop them on 3rd down this time please

Mach1
10-09-2016, 12:21 PM
come on D stop em

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:22 PM
Fitzpatrick on his way to AFC offensive player of the week.

86WARD
10-09-2016, 12:22 PM
Lucky there...4th down...Jets have to punt after Marshall,drops an easy one.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:22 PM
ok...ty marshall...not good D

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:22 PM
Obvious push off by Marshall. What does it take to get a flag on NY?

pepsyman1
10-09-2016, 12:23 PM
How can we have 8 people in coverage and still leave their best receiver wide open? Lol. Lucky drop

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:23 PM
Heh, I would say 'great stop defense' but it was an offensive mistake that brought up the 4th down.

Defense blows.

Fire Butler.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:24 PM
Is our defense ever gonna be dominate against a good offense...they look lost sometimes against terrible offenses

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:24 PM
Lets make it 14-3.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:25 PM
Is our defense ever gonna be dominate against a good offense...they look lost sometimes against terrible offenses

Not until they move away from everything Lebeau.

They don't cause mistakes, they just wait for the offense to make them.

Lebeau, most overrated coach of all time.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:25 PM
miller would have had that

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:25 PM
No Heeeaaaaaatttth for u, JJ

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:25 PM
Obvious push off by Marshall. What does it take to get a flag on NY?


He's a big, physical guy that gets away with more pushoffs than anyone in the league. This is nothing new. Poor Cockrell has been all over him when he has been his responsibility. Refs have given him no chance so far.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:26 PM
How can we have 8 people in coverage and still leave their best receiver wide open? Lol. Lucky drop
I ask that after every completion. Rarely do we even have a player in position to make a play.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:27 PM
bell...shifted runner ive seen

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shiftiest

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:31 PM
Good job, Bell

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Crap, holding call

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Hearing a lot of boos now

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:31 PM
That was a bad play call. The Steelers need to be aggressive and call a throwing play.

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:31 PM
With this offense, you call that play????

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:31 PM
3rd and 15, inside run.

Hard to defend you making shit play calls like that, Haley.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:32 PM
Why is Haley so scared?

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:32 PM
Yea, play calling outside of the TD has been ultra conservative.

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:32 PM
Hopefully the defense can step up here and cause a turnover. It would give us great field position.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:33 PM
our job is score every time and not give them a ton of oppurtunities to score...well that was a fail

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:33 PM
Fuck this play calling!

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:34 PM
Throw the damn ball Haley! Their secondary sucks!

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:34 PM
Why is Haley so scared?

Ftizpatrick sucks and he's thrown more passes than Ben.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:34 PM
More boos

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:35 PM
I didn't see Ben change a call at the line. He stayed with the play. Don't know if Ben could have gotten them out of it, or if it was just a Haley call and they went with it.

It seems like they are worried about Ben getting hurt early.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:36 PM
looks like we are gonna have to continue to draft LB's,CB's, defensive players for next couple of drafts

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Hopefully the defense can step up here and cause a turnover. It would give us great field position.

Yeah right. LOL. Turnovers? What are those?

Defense just knows how to bend and break.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:37 PM
Forte had good run

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:37 PM
as i said....fucking porous defense

pepsyman1
10-09-2016, 12:38 PM
That was atrocious

GRAYGHOST668
10-09-2016, 12:38 PM
this defence sucks

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:38 PM
jarvis jones is too slow

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:39 PM
Shitty D

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:39 PM
damn...was our chance

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:39 PM
Jets were lucky there......

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:39 PM
Ball stripped but Fitz recovered

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:40 PM
too much damn cushion

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:40 PM
Stop them here

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 12:41 PM
Yeah right. LOL. Turnovers? What are those?

Defense just knows how to bend and break.

Whats with your negativity?

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:41 PM
if they go for it they would get it

pepsyman1
10-09-2016, 12:41 PM
Good tackle by Burns

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:41 PM
49 yard attempt - good

we need another td this series

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:42 PM
cmon offense

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I bet Ben we try and go deep here again

GRAYGHOST668
10-09-2016, 12:42 PM
bend don't break,,,,,,I hate defence that plays this way

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:42 PM
*will try

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
I like Burns. I think he will be a good corner in the league. Didn't like the pick when it was made, but I like what I see from him.

He may not ever be great, but I am okay with that as long as he is serviceable and dependable like Ike Taylor was.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
I really hate our defensive philosophy.

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
Nice to see Chickillo get a quick pressure. Haven't seen much of that this year.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
Time for the offense to start throwing the ball.

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:43 PM
This is why the Steelers stink in these kinds of games.

They go conservative against a team who is aggressive. The Jets suck, but they are clearly attacking on Offense.

Tomlin is like deathly afraid of losing to inferior teams, but he ends up losing, because he is afraid of losing. This is his achilles heel.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:44 PM
bend don't break,,,,,,I hate defence that plays this way

But it worked when Lebeau had Hall Of Famers backing up Hall Of Famers.

It was his philosphy, not the Woodsons, Lakes, Polamalus or Harrisons or Porters that actually were playing.

When they were all gone, it was still an awesome philosphy......LMAO I can't keep this up.

Lebeau.....omg, lucky coach in the right place, right time TWICE.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:46 PM
This is why the Steelers stink in these kinds of games.

They go conservative against a team who is aggressive. The Jets suck, but they are clearly attacking on Offense.

I agree 100%

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LeBeau's type of scheme has been played out too long...time for a diff philosophy

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:46 PM
This is why the Steelers stink in these kinds of games.

They go conservative against a team who is aggressive. The Jets suck, but they are clearly attacking on Offense.

Tomlin is like deathly afraid of losing to inferior teams, but he ends up losing, because he is afraid of losing. This is his achilles heel.


So far they seem to be counting on Fitzpatrick making mistakes. He hasn't so far.

They need to stay aggressive offensively.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:47 PM
AB is becoming a distraction...he needs to be humbled

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:49 PM
The NFL is a fucking joke.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:49 PM
holding

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:49 PM
Why no flag on tackle?

Hands to the face on D, still got 1st down

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:50 PM
heyward is looking woozy...DAMN!!!!

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 12:50 PM
For all the armchair defensive coordinators out there, what do you propose? The middle of the defense is missing 2 critical starters in terms of Shazier and Golden - which is exactly where the Jets have been attacking.

There is no legitimate edge rusher currently healthy besides the dozen or so snaps that Deebo can put himself in a time machine to 2009.

The outside corners are a FA, a rookie, another rookie, and some guy from the PS. But yeah, let's man them up and blitz Jarvis Jones.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:50 PM
Whats with your negativity?

I am tired of the devotion to everything Lebeau, WHICH IS WHY BUTLER IS STILL HERE. Lebeau didn't build those defenses, Bill Cowher did. They were good before Lebeau, and good after Lebeau and good before Lebeau came back.

Lebeau ruined the defense when the all-pros were gone. His philosophy has always been garbage when not propped up by hall of famers and all pros.

Butler can change, but he needs to be aggressive in his approach, which he isn't, just like Lebeau was not when his crutches all were gone.

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:50 PM
AB is becoming a distraction...he needs to be humbled


He bitched about not making enough money from the Steelers while he throws money away every week in fines and getting penalties. Apparently, he wants the Steelers to fund his indiscretions.

He says he isn't trying to draw attention to himself......

It's beginning to get old real fast.

Edman
10-09-2016, 12:51 PM
So far they seem to be counting on Fitzpatrick making mistakes. He hasn't so far.

He's an idea: Force him to make mistakes instead. Even Lebeau realized that.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:51 PM
Another good run by Bell

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:51 PM
Bell!! Nice

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:52 PM
Dang

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:52 PM
where is the fucking flag???????

Mach1
10-09-2016, 12:52 PM
That was a wobbly pass

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:53 PM
bad wounded duck

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:54 PM
PI, no call once again.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:54 PM
He bitched about not making enough money from the Steelers while he throws money away every week in fines and getting penalties. Apparently, he wants the Steelers to fund his indiscretions.

He says he isn't trying to draw attention to himself......

It's beginning to get old real fast.

exactly...he needs to be humbled...NFL goons will eventually try and suspend him...how hard is it to obide by the rules(as much as i hate those rules)

pczach
10-09-2016, 12:54 PM
I am tired of the devotion to everything Lebeau, WHICH IS WHY BUTLER IS STILL HERE. Lebeau didn't build those defenses, Bill Cowher did. They were good before Lebeau, and good after Lebeau and good before Lebeau came back.

Lebeau ruined the defense when the all-pros were gone. His philosophy has always been garbage when not propped up by hall of famers and all pros.

Butler can change, but he needs to be aggressive in his approach, which he isn't, just like Lebeau was not when his crutches all were gone.



Look, no coaches are good without good players.

They are building the talent base here, but injuries and youth are making it tough right now. I'm not ready to say Butler is a failure. I don't believe he will be if the talent is allowed to blossom and improve. They will then be allowed to take more chances and become a more dominant unit that plays more aggressively.

I just think good things will come as the talent level on defense is improved and the young guys get more experience.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:56 PM
Cam return questionable. not good

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oh almost by coates couldn't hold on

Mach1
10-09-2016, 12:57 PM
stupid

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 12:57 PM
Well, that was crap

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:57 PM
I don't know why we're just dumping the ball short all game.

Steeldude
10-09-2016, 12:57 PM
It is very sad that WRs nowadays have no idea how to catch.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:58 PM
fucking dumb...we will lose if we keep this shit up

lipps83
10-09-2016, 12:59 PM
Look, no coaches are good without good players.

They are building the talent base here, but injuries and youth are making it tough right now. I'm not ready to say Butler is a failure. I don't believe he will be if the talent is allowed to blossom and improve. They will then be allowed to take more chances and become a more dominant unit that plays more aggressively.

I just think good things will come as the talent level on defense is improved and the young guys get more experience.

Of course, I agree with you. I don't see Butler as a failure, but the guy needs to realize consistent pressure is a good thing. They are so afraid to get burned by the big play that they let the offenses nickle and dime them to death by consistently dropping 7 or 8 into coverage

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fucking dumb...we will lose if we keep this shit up

Losing teams got Tomlins number.

So afraid to lose that they lose.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 12:59 PM
if heyward is out...we will be in trouble

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 12:59 PM
Every penalty is on us. How ridiculous.

Edman
10-09-2016, 01:00 PM
Welp, the Coaches lost their brains today.

All the talent in the world means nothing when coaching is bad.

Gonna be a long afternoon.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:00 PM
Oh for heaven's sake

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:00 PM
this is where the jets go ahead

ALLD
10-09-2016, 01:00 PM
Why the fake FG? Why not go for it conventionally on 4th and 2 when we have all the weapons in the world?

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:00 PM
bumps into QB still got 5 yards

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:01 PM
This whole game plan sucks. NY doesn't have anyone in their secondary that can cover but we're not even challenging them.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 01:01 PM
Here comes the Steelers implosion to a 1-3 team.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:01 PM
fuck!!!! Im getting so aggravated with this team

ALLD
10-09-2016, 01:02 PM
Throw some 20-yd. passes.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:02 PM
I can't even believe this. They better get it together quick

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:02 PM
they cant cover marshall

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:03 PM
Only the coaching staff can stop our offense.

ALLD
10-09-2016, 01:03 PM
Steelers sometimes don't play 4 quarters in a game. This is one of them. Let's hope they play 3.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:04 PM
This totally sucks

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:04 PM
Steelers sometimes don't play 4 quarters in a game. This is one of them. Let's hope they play 3.

only played good one possession

86WARD
10-09-2016, 01:04 PM
Marshall may have 300 yards today...jeez...Cockrell blows.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:05 PM
cockrell=playing like shit

Edman
10-09-2016, 01:05 PM
Touchdown Jets. Defense getting shit on by Ryan Fitzpatrick.

13-7.

Good Old Mikey T. Never fails to disappoint.

ALLD
10-09-2016, 01:05 PM
The stupid gadget play once again is a game stopper. Why risk it when you don't need it?

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:05 PM
I honestly don't get what people are surprised by.

1. No deep passes because they are terrified that the 4th string OT will get the franchise killed.
2. They didn't suddenly get better and more experienced DB's.
3. There is no legit pass rusher on the current roster.

What else was going to happen?

Mach1
10-09-2016, 01:05 PM
Going to be a long day

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:06 PM
Fuck Cockrell! Catch the damn ball!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:06 PM
we shot our load last week now we cant play all of a sudden and in my opinion a worse team than KC was

ALLD
10-09-2016, 01:06 PM
Let's play down to the competition again. It's obvious how to outscore the Jets, but MT likes to get cute.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 01:06 PM
2 minute offense will be 3 runs by Bell followed by a punt and then a Jets FG.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:06 PM
The stupid gadget play once again is a game stopper. Why risk it when you don't need it?
This

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:07 PM
Im beginning to think we dont study film...i think they watch movies instead

Edman
10-09-2016, 01:07 PM
Ryan Fitzpatrick outplaying Ben Roethlisberger. Lol.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:08 PM
This is all on the coaching staff. Playing scared against a shitty team. How pathetic!

lipps83
10-09-2016, 01:09 PM
Im beginning to think we dont study film...i think they watch movies instead

They would learn something if they watched movies.

They watch cartoons. This has been evident for years.

Edman
10-09-2016, 01:09 PM
we shot our load last week now we cant play all of a sudden and in my opinion a worse team than KC was

The Steelers are playing. They're playing like scared little bitches. Always happens under Mike Tomlin.

They have been very conservative today. No passes to Brown. Lots of Bell up the middle. Minimal Deangelo. No TE sets.

Very conservative gameplan. They're scared of the Jets.

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:10 PM
I am tired of the devotion to everything Lebeau, WHICH IS WHY BUTLER IS STILL HERE. Lebeau didn't build those defenses, Bill Cowher did. They were good before Lebeau, and good after Lebeau and good before Lebeau came back.

Lebeau ruined the defense when the all-pros were gone. His philosophy has always been garbage when not propped up by hall of famers and all pros.

Butler can change, but he needs to be aggressive in his approach, which he isn't, just like Lebeau was not when his crutches all were gone.

The Steelers defense was NOT good before Dick came along. Giving up 344 points in 1991 isn't exactly doing well.

Dick was hired as the secondary coach in 1992 when Bill became head coach.

I wouldn't say Dick 'ruined' the defense. Did Dick's system go stale and did he need to be replaced, yes, but we started to go into a transition on defense from older/more experienced players to younger/less experienced players.

You say that Butler needs to be more aggressive and he is. Instead of having the defensive linemen just occupying the offensive linemen so the linebackers could get the sacks like in Dick's system, Butler allows his linemen to create issues and get sacks themselves. That's being more aggressive in my eyes.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:12 PM
They would learn something if they watched movies.

They watch cartoons. This has been evident for years.

probably the road runner and the coyote...lol

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no urgency

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:13 PM
moving the ball... let's get some points out of it...

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:14 PM
The Steelers defense was NOT good before Dick came along. Giving up 344 points in 1991 isn't exactly doing well.

Dick was hired as the secondary coach in 1992 when Bill became head coach.

I wouldn't say Dick 'ruined' the defense. Did Dick's system go stale and did he need to be replaced, yes, but we started to go into a transition on defense from older/more experienced players to younger/less experienced players.

You say that Butler needs to be more aggressive and he is. Instead of having the defensive linemen just occupying the offensive linemen so the linebackers could get the sacks like in Dick's system, Butler allows his linemen to create issues and get sacks themselves. That's being more aggressive in my eyes.

Shhh. The natives are restless. This is not a time for logic and reason. Obviously this is the time to switch to the magic unnamed defensive scheme that converts crappy pass rushers into Reggie White and raw and average DBs into Deion Sanders.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:15 PM
lets get a TD then come back out with ball after half and score again...sounds good on paper

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:15 PM
Should at least get 3 before the half, with any luck

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:16 PM
I honestly don't get what people are surprised by.

1. No deep passes because they are terrified that the 4th string OT will get the franchise killed.
2. They didn't suddenly get better and more experienced DB's.
3. There is no legit pass rusher on the current roster.

What else was going to happen?


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This

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:17 PM
1st and goal, thanks to coates

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:17 PM
Great stiff arm by Sammie.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:17 PM
coates good job too make up for your previous mistake

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:17 PM
I guess that Sammie Coates is just too big so it is legal to mug him?

I'm a bit behind live on my feed. Was refering to the play in the endzone.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:18 PM
PI not called again

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:19 PM
holding on d. how much time is left?

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:19 PM
run it in with bell

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:19 PM
Best short yardage runner in the NFL. Give it to Bell.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:20 PM
for god's sakes

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:20 PM
At least the drop was on 1st down. Run it in.

Mach1
10-09-2016, 01:20 PM
Coats needs some stickum

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:20 PM
coates you fucking idiot

86WARD
10-09-2016, 01:20 PM
Coates and Wheaton are killing this team.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:20 PM
heeeatth! td

lipps83
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
The Steelers defense was NOT good before Dick came along. Giving up 344 points in 1991 isn't exactly doing well.

Dick was hired as the secondary coach in 1992 when Bill became head coach.

I wouldn't say Dick 'ruined' the defense. Did Dick's system go stale and did he need to be replaced, yes, but we started to go into a transition on defense from older/more experienced players to younger/less experienced players.

You say that Butler needs to be more aggressive and he is. Instead of having the defensive linemen just occupying the offensive linemen so the linebackers could get the sacks like in Dick's system, Butler allows his linemen to create issues and get sacks themselves. That's being more aggressive in my eyes.

Don't care about Lebeau being secondary coach. He was not running the defense then. He took over as coordinator in 95 after defense was already top 10 for 3 years in a row and top 5 for two. It was ALREADY GOOD when he took over control. It wasn't good because of him, it was good regardless.

It was also top 10 when he took over the 2nd time.

Yet, in all his years as a Bengals DC, the defense was only top 10 twice in 14 years.

Yet, some believe he built the defense here?

No, BILL COWHER DID.

tube517
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....er....Outlaw

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
Touchdown!

Edman
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
Touchdown Steelers.

Hey look, they open up the Offense and look what happens.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
jesse james!!!!!

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
Ben 12th guy to complete 285 td passes

86WARD
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
Leave it to the Outlaw!!

14-13 Steelers!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:21 PM
thats 13 tds for ben this year idiots

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:22 PM
Ben is playing nearly a perfect game and they are struggling to score.

Young guys making mistakes. You can see the talent in everyone, they just need to get more consistent and reliable and they will be lights out.

tube517
10-09-2016, 01:23 PM
Anybody see the crunching block by Bell on the Grimble catch? I need to see the replay again

Steeldude
10-09-2016, 01:24 PM
Coates cannot catch. You should have learned this simple skill when he was a small child.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:25 PM
They better stick with this in the second half.

Hawkman
10-09-2016, 01:25 PM
Don't care about Lebeau being secondary coach. He was not running the defense then. He took over as coordinator in 95 after defense was already top 10 for 3 years in a row and top 5 for two. It was ALREADY GOOD when he took over control. It wasn't good because of him, it was good regardless.

It was also top 10 when he took over the 2nd time.

Yet, in all his years as a Bengals DC, the defense was only top 10 twice in 14 years.

Yet, some believe he built the defense here?

No, BILL COWHER DID.

Can't this stuff be saved for a different thread??? Like say "Steelers Talk"??!!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:26 PM
of course tomlin not worried about marshall thinking there is no problem...lol

Edman
10-09-2016, 01:26 PM
1. No deep passes because they are terrified that the 4th string OT will get the franchise killed.

Ben hasn't been touched all day.


2. They didn't suddenly get better and more experienced DB's.

Cockrell has been all over Brandon Marshall. Marshall is just a great receiver making plays. The touchdown was tipped by Cockrell and bounced into Marshall's hands. Tough on Ross.


3. There is no legit pass rusher on the current roster.

Time to manufacture one.

Halftime. Steelers up 14-13.

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:26 PM
Don't care about Lebeau being secondary coach. He was not running the defense then. He took over as coordinator in 95 after defense was already top 10 for 3 years in a row and top 5 for two. It was ALREADY GOOD when he took over control. It wasn't good because of him, it was good regardless.

It was also top 10 when he took over the 2nd time.

Yet, in all his years as a Bengals DC, the defense was only top 10 twice in 14 years.

Yet, some believe he built the defense here?

No, BILL COWHER DID.

Dom Capers might have something to say about who built the original version of Blitzburgh - but yeah - let's go with your version.

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:27 PM
Don't care about Lebeau being secondary coach. He was not running the defense then. He took over as coordinator in 95 after defense was already top 10 for 3 years in a row and top 5 for two. It was ALREADY GOOD when he took over control. It wasn't good because of him, it was good regardless.

It was also top 10 when he took over the 2nd time.

Yet, in all his years as a Bengals DC, the defense was only top 10 twice in 14 years.

Yet, some believe he built the defense here?

No, BILL COWHER DID.

Did I ever say that Dick built the defense all by himself? No. The way I look at it, Bill and the rest of the defensive coaching staff built that great defenses on the '90s. Everyone on the coaching staff helped and the zone blitz, which Dick redeveloped (he did not create the zone blitz), helped even more.

I'm not going to say the Steelers defense wasn't good from '92 to '94 because it was, but I'm sure Dick helped make it a good defense.

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:28 PM
Anybody see the crunching block by Bell on the Grimble catch? I need to see the replay again


He does it routinely. That's why he is such an incredible player.

Did you see the entire defense react to him on the Jesse James TD? The guy is just special in all phases of the game.

If you play him straight up, he crushes you.

If you give him extra attention, he creates opportunities and space for everyone else.

He is a running back that truly has an effect on the entire field because of his abilities as a runner, receiver, blocker, and decoy.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:31 PM
Can't this stuff be saved for a different thread??? Like say "Steelers Talk"??!!
I agree. This is the game day thread. Let's talk about the game.

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:32 PM
I agree. This is the game day thread. Let's talk about the game.

Sorry guys, I'll get back to the game.

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:32 PM
I agree wholeheatedly with pczach, when the youth on this team gets more seasoning - turn out the lights. Party's over. The offense will be unstoppable.

There was a great article a day or so on Steelers Depot. Coates is on pace to surpass all of Bryant's marvelous rookie year stats. Not bad for a guy who was not supposed to be able to play in the NFL.

All these snaps that the young guys on D are getting is only gonna be a massive benefit come week 15 or so.

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:38 PM
I agree wholeheatedly with pczach, when the youth on this team gets more seasoning - turn out the lights. Party's over. The offense will be unstoppable.

There was a great article a day or so on Steelers Depot. Coates is on pace to surpass all of Bryant's marvelous rookie year stats. Not bad for a guy who was not supposed to be able to play in the NFL.

All these snaps that the young guys on D are getting is only gonna be a massive benefit come week 15 or so.


Yep.

If they can stay away from too many more devastating injuries, the experience these young defenders are getting is going to really have them ready for post season play.

They won't be rookies anymore if they continue to play all season long and master the defense and the technique they need to play. The instincts will also come with playing time.

They need to weather the storm and have the offense carry the majority of the load the first half of the year.

The thought of Bell, AB, Bryant, and Coates potentially being on the field at the same time next year gives me chills just thinking about it.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 01:38 PM
Sorry guys, I'll get back to the game.

I agree, sorry to derail.

Steeldude
10-09-2016, 01:38 PM
Need more Harrison and less Jones.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:38 PM
Let's get some more points!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:41 PM
dont get conservative

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come on...cant run on these guys

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:42 PM
Well that was a whole lot of nothing

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:42 PM
wtf was that????

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:43 PM
I don't know why we keep trying to run it up the middle.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:43 PM
When are we gonna learn to not get cute??????

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:44 PM
Dumb

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:44 PM
I'll never understand the quick snap by the offense. Unless you're running a quick quarterback sneak when the defense isn't expecting it or an uncovered receiver, there is nothing good that comes from it. It throws off the timing of the whole play, including the offensive line.

It fails nearly every single time teams do it.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:45 PM
We keep forcing the run instead of sticking with what's working.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:45 PM
leave harrison in please

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:45 PM
Not sure how hammering your RB into the teeth of the defense is "cute". pigheaded and stubborn maybe - but not cute.

lipps83
10-09-2016, 01:45 PM
Man, this offense is so far from the 30 pts a game they predicted and AB pretty much has no shot at the 150/2000 everyone was anticipating.

Too many eggs being laid.

This offense needs Bryant back, and badly. It is good without him, but great with him.

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:46 PM
Not sure how hammering your RB into the teeth of the defense is "cute". pigheaded and stubborn maybe - but not cute.
Yes, not cute. It's stupid.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:46 PM
good job on d

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:46 PM
about time we step up pressure

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:46 PM
Much better pressure and intensity on defense to start this half.

Kittyfish
10-09-2016, 01:47 PM
AB running!

pczach
10-09-2016, 01:47 PM
Great return!

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:47 PM
Yes, not cute. It's stupid.

was talking about the quick snap shit guys cmon

steelerdude15
10-09-2016, 01:48 PM
Great return by Antonio to put the offense in great field position.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:48 PM
quit throwing it to coates

Mach1
10-09-2016, 01:48 PM
Come on Sammy

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:48 PM
Great return. Even better stick by Pryor. Daaaaaaayyyyyyuuuum.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:49 PM
now his pride is hurt...put DHB in

SteelerFanInStl
10-09-2016, 01:49 PM
Finally decided to not just play passive. Much better.

SteelMayhem72
10-09-2016, 01:50 PM
17-13 coming up

Mojouw
10-09-2016, 01:51 PM
now his pride is hurt...put DHB in

You mean the guy with no noteworthy history of cringe inducing drops in his 8 year career?