2016 NFL Draft: Best remaining prospects

[Shoes]

Here are the top remaining players in the 2016 NFL Draft (http://www.nfl.com/draft), based on NFL Media senior analyst Gil Brandt's rankings of the top 140 prospects (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000652753/article/hot-100-laremy-tunsil-is-top-prospect-in-2016-nfl-draft) (number by player's name is where Brandt had them originally ranked). Click here (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker?icampaign=draft-sub_nav_bar-drafteventpage-tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade) for in-depth profiles on more than 500 draft prospects.
5. Myles Jack (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/myles-jack?id=2555329), OLB, UCLA (6-1, 243, no 40 time)
13. A'Shawn Robinson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/ashawn-robinson?id=2555265), DT, Alabama (6-3 5/8, 307, 5.2 40)
16. Kevin Dodd (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kevin-dodd?id=2555338), DE, Clemson (6-5, 277, 4.86 40)
18. Reggie Ragland (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/reggie-ragland?id=2555169), ILB, Alabama (6-1 1/4, 242, 4.72 40)
21. Jarran Reed (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jarran-reed?id=2555238), DT, Alabama (6-2 7/8, 307, 5.2 40)
30. Kamalei Correa (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kamalei-correa?id=2555339), DE, Boise State (6-2 5/8, 243, 4.69 40)
32. Derrick Henry (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/derrick-henry?id=2555221), RB, Alabama (6-2 5/8, 247, 4.54 40)
33. Hunter Henry (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hunter-henry?id=2555341), TE, Arkansas (6-4 7/8, 250, 4.66 40)
34. Jason Spriggs (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jason-spriggs?id=2555197), OT, Indiana (6-6 5/8, 301, 4.94 40)
36. Emmanuel Ogbah (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/emmanuel-ogbah?id=2555278), DE, Oklahoma State (6-4 1/4, 273, 4.63 40)
38. Mackensie Alexander (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/mackensie-alexander?id=2555177), CB, Clemson (5-10 3/8, 190, 4.47 40)
39. Sterling Shepard (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/sterling-shepard?id=2555295), WR, Oklahoma (5-10 1/4, 194, 4.48 40)
40. Jihad Ward (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jihad-ward?id=2555248), DE, Illinois (6-5 1/8, 297, 5.11 40)
41. Chris Jones (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/chris-jones?id=2555393), DT, Mississippi State (6-5 3/4, 310, 5.03 40)
42. Austin Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/austin-johnson?id=2555269), DT, Penn State (6-4 3/8, 314, 5.32 40)
43. Cody Whitehair (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cody-whitehair?id=2555132), OG, Kansas State (6-3 3/4, 301, 5.08 40)
45. T.J. Green (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/t.j.-green?id=2555537), S, Clemson (6-2 1/2, 209, 4.34 40)
47. Jonathan Bullard (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jonathan-bullard?id=2555335), DT, Florida (603, 285, 4.93 40)
48. Vonn Bell (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vonn-bell?id=2555530), S, Ohio State (5-10 3/4, 199, 4.5 40)
49. Su'a Cravens (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/sua-cravens?id=2555345), OLB, USC (6-0 3/4, 226, 4.64 40)
50. Tyler Boyd (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/tyler-boyd?id=2555466), WR, Pittsburgh (6-1 1/2, 197, 4.5 40)
51. Darian Thompson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/darian-thompson?id=2555154), S, Boise State (6-1 7/8, 206, 4.69 40)
52. Andrew Billings (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/andrew-billings?id=2555267), DT, Baylor (6-0 5/8, 311, 5.05 40)
53. Devontae Booker (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/devontae-booker?id=2555223), RB, Utah (5-10 3/4, 219, no 40 time)
54. Maliek Collins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/maliek-collins?id=2555400), DT, Nebraska (6-1 7/8, 311, 5.03 40)
55. Kendall Fuller (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kendall-fuller?id=2555349), CB, Virginia Tech (5-11 1/2, 187, no 40 time)
56. Connor Cook (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/connor-cook?id=2555332), QB, Michigan State (6-4, 217, 4.79 40)
57. Michael Thomas (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/michael-thomas?id=2555347), WR, Ohio State (6-2, 212, 4.57 40)
58. Sean Davis (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/sean-davis?id=2555386), CB, Maryland (6-1, 201, 4.46 40)
59. Jordan Jenkins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jordan-jenkins?id=2555256), OLB, Georgia (6-2 5/8, 259, 4.8 40)
60. Austin Hooper (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/austin-hooper?id=2555415), TE, Stanford (6-3 5/8, 254, 4.71 40)
62. Evan Boehm (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/evan-boehm?id=2555181), C, Missouri (6-2 1/8, 302, 5.33 40)
63. C.J. Prosise (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/c.j.-prosise?id=2555417), RB, Notre Dame (6-0 5/8, 220, 4.48 40)
64. Jacoby Brissett (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jacoby-brissett?id=2555261), QB, North Carolina State (6-3 1/2, 230, 4.93 40)
65. Deion Jones (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/deion-jones?id=2555162), OLB, LSU (6-0 7/8, 221, 4.41 40)
66. Noah Spence (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/noah-spence?id=2555312), DE, Eastern Kentucky (6-2 1/2, 251, 4.8 40)
67. Zack Sanchez (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/zack-sanchez?id=2555548), CB, Oklahoma (5-10 7/8, 181, 4.49 40)
68. Le'Raven Clark (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/leraven-clark?id=2555202), OT, Texas Tech (6-5 1/4, 316, 5.16 40)
69. Nick Vannett (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/nick-vannett?id=2555289), TE, Ohio State (6-6 1/8, 255, 4.87 40)
70. Roberto Aguayo (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/roberto-aguayo?id=2555408), K, Florida State (6-0, 207, no 40 time)
71. Jordan Howard (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jordan-howard?id=2555418), RB, Indiana (6-0 1/8, 223, 4.59 40)
72. Max Tuerk (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/max-tuerk?id=2555187), C, USC (6-5, 298, no 40 time)
73. Shilique Calhoun (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/shilique-calhoun?id=2555294), DE, Michigan State (6-4 3/8, 251, 4.82 40)
74. Christian Westerman (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/christian-westerman?id=2555131), OG, Arizona State (6-3 1/8, 298, 5.17 40)
75. Braxton Miller (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/braxton-miller?id=2555348), WR, Ohio State (6-1 3/8, 201, 4.5 40)
76. Hassan Ridgeway (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hassan-ridgeway?id=2555514), DT, Texas (6-3 3/8, 303, 5.02 40)
77. Kyler Fackrell (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kyler-fackrell?id=2555340), OLB, Utah State (6-5, 245, 4.72 40)
78. Shon Coleman (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/shon-coleman?id=2555337), OT, Auburn (6-5 1/2, 307, no 40 time)
79. Yannick Ngakoue (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/yannick-ngakoue?id=2555421), DE, Maryland (6-2, 252, 4.75 40)
80. Kenneth Dixon (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kenneth-dixon?id=2555229), RB, Louisiana Tech (5-10 1/8, 215, 4.58 40)
81. Dak Prescott (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/dak-prescott?id=2555260), QB, Mississippi State (6-2 1/4, 226, 4.79 40)
82. Miles Killebrew (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/miles-killebrew?id=2555315), S, Southern Utah (6-1 7/8, 217, 4.65 40)
83. DeAndre Houston-Carson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/deandre-houston-carson?id=2555381), S, William & Mary (6-0 3/4, 201, 4.54 40)
84. Isaac Seumalo (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/isaac-seumalo?id=2555495), OG, Oregon State (6-3 7/8, 303, 5.19 40)
85. Willie Beavers (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/willie-beavers?id=2555208), OT, Western Michigan (6-4 1/2, 321, 5.28 40)
86. Christian Hackenberg (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/christian-hackenberg?id=2555416), QB, Penn State (6-4 3/8, 223, 4.78 40)
87. Xavien Howard (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/xavien-howard?id=2555539), CB, Baylor (6-0 1/8, 201, 4.43 40)
88. Will Redmond (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/will-redmond?id=2555545), CB, Mississippi State (5-10 3/4, 182, no 40 time)
89. Joshua Perry (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joshua-perry?id=2555326), ILB, Ohio State (6-3 3/4, 254, 4.68 40)
90. Nick Kwiatkoski (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/nick-kwiatkoski?id=2555288), ILB, West Virginia (6-2, 243, 4.73 40)
91. Nick Martin (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/nick-martin?id=2555189), OG, Notre Dame (6-4 1/8, 299, 5.02 40)
92. Cyrus Jones (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cyrus-jones?id=2555380), CB, Alabama (5-9 7/8, 197, 4.47 40)
93. Jerald Hawkins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jerald-hawkins?id=2555420), OT, LSU (6-5 5/8, 305, 5.23 40)
94. Vadal Alexander (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vadal-alexander?id=2555146), OG, LSU (6-5 1/4, 326, 5.57 40)
95. Adam Gotsis (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/adam-gotsis?id=2555502), DT, Georgia Tech (6-4 1/2, 293, no 40 time)
96. Blake Martinez (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/blake-martinez?id=2555161), ILB, Stanford (6-1 5/8, 237, 4.71 40)
97. Joe Dahl (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joe-dahl?id=2555136), OG, Washington State (6-4 1/8, 304, 5.18 40)
98. Sheldon Day (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/sheldon-day?id=2555241), DT, Notre Dame (6-0 1/2, 293, 5.07 40)
100. Kolby Listenbee (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kolby-listenbee?id=2555350), WR, TCU (6-0, 197, 4.37 40)

More here

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000656617/article/2016-nfl-draft-best-remaining-prospects

[teegre]

Hargrave

[teegre]

ILB Jack
OLB Spence
DT Hargrave
DT Billings
DT Robinson
DT Reed
DT Jones
DT Johnson
DE Bullard
DE Day
SS Cravens
SS Thompson
SS Bell
OLB Correa
OLB Calhoun
OLB Dodd

That is 15... I think one of them will be there at 58.

NOTE: In the past two drafts, Tomlin has tried to trade up to get "his guy". He couldn't get ODB (nor Aaron Donald) in 2014, nor could he get Landon Collins in 2015. Third time's a charm!!!

[Steelman]

My money's on Hargrave, but there's so much value in the 2nd round that I think I'll be OK with pretty much anyone after the Artie Burns pick. Hopefully we can nab one of those stud DL.

I'm curious about Jack. Wonder if more info on that knee will be revealed before the rounds start tomorrow.

Secretly I'm hoping Spence falls. He's special.

[teegre]

Secretly I'm hoping Spence falls. He's special.

Hypothetically... if you are the GM, at what point do you trade up to get him?

[Mojouw]

My money's on Hargrave, but there's so much value in the 2nd round that I think I'll be OK with pretty much anyone after the Artie Burns pick. Hopefully we can nab one of those stud DL.

I'm curious about Jack. Wonder if more info on that knee will be revealed before the rounds start tomorrow.

Secretly I'm hoping Spence falls. He's special.

My dream draft would be that they now go get Spence and TJ Green. They can start the re-animated corpse of Joel Steed at DT then for all I care.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Hargrave

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee434/blitzburgh7619/Javon%20Hargrave1_zpswmbbtj5a.png

[Texasteel]

A side note. Drew Ott, a DE that was highy thought of at the start of the season, has been told by league Dr.s that he will be ready to play this year. Ott will likely go late in the draft.

[Steelman]

Hypothetically... if you are the GM, at what point do you trade up to get him?

Great question. Not having any extra trading chips doesn't help. Kinda surprised they didn't hop all over Denver's offer. That could have netted a Day 2 Spence/Hargrave/Green or a Spence/Thompson/Redmond combo of some sort.

I guess it depends on how high they value him or if he's even on their board. If Jack goes early tomorrow and Spence falls 15-20 more spots, somebody will trade up for him, no doubt.

[teegre]

Great question. Not having any extra trading chips doesn't help. Kinda surprised they didn't hop all over Denver's offer. That could have netted a Day 2 Spence/Hargrave/Green or a Spence/Thompson/Redmond combo of some sort.

I guess it depends on how high they value him or if he's even on their board. If Jack goes early tomorrow and Spence falls 15-20 more spots, somebody will trade up for him, no doubt.

My nightmare is the Taperiots trading up for Spence. They have the picks to pull it off.

[Steelman]

My nightmare is the Taperiots trading up for Spence. They have the picks to pull it off.

Gawd, that would be truly revolting.

I love the second and third rounds though. The first round is always so annoying. 2 and 3, that's the meat of the draft, especially this year.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I think the Steelers wanted to draft a CB in Round 1 because the talent level at that position drops off a cliff.

whereas look at how many good DL and safeties are still available...

[teegre]

Gawd, that would be truly revolting.

I love the second and third rounds though. The first round is always so annoying. 2 and 3, that's the meat of the draft, especially this year.

The Ravens could take Spence... without trading up. :puke:

Me, too. This is where championships are won.

[Steelman]

The Ravens could take Spence... without trading up. :puke:

Me, too. This is where championships are won.

Oddly, with how they allegedly scratched Tunsil off their board so quickly, I could see them going for a Kevin Dodd type of guy instead.

Dammit. I need to forget about Spence in the B&G, but I thought he'd be long gone by now and he reminds me of a modern James Harrison and I just can't help it.

[teegre]

Oddly, with how they allegedly scratched Tunsil off their board so quickly, I could see them going for a Kevin Dodd type of guy instead.

Dammit. I need to forget about Spence in the B&G, but I thought he'd be long gone by now and he reminds me of a modern James Harrison and I just can't help it.

Dodd is the safer pick.

You're not wrong. Spence is the only blue-chip pass-rusher in this draft.

[Psycho Ward 86]

My dream draft would be that they now go get Spence and TJ Green. They can start the re-animated corpse of Joel Steed at DT then for all I care.

im still down for Spence as well. But I will be terrified if they dont go DL in the 3rd with Spence picked.

Why TJ Green? I understand you have been pointing out the athleticism thing but TJ Green is just awful. I mean really really bad. He's one of the most overrated prospects in the whole draft imo

[BlackAndGold]

Could see Carrea being the pick at 58.

Spence could very well be there.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Dont forget Shilique Calhoun

[hawaiiansteeler]

Mel Kiper's best 3 available players still available are Myles Jack, A'Shawn Robinson and Jarran Reed:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/insider/story/_/id/15231683/2016-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-ranks-25-best-players-available-heading-day-2

[teegre]

Mel Kiper's best 3 available players still available are Myles Jack, A'Shawn Robinson and Jarran Reed:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/insider/story/_/id/15231683/2016-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-ranks-25-best-players-available-heading-day-2

Does anyone have access, to see the other 22?

[polamalubeast]

I have the feeling the Steelers will ignore the DL in this Draft.....

[Shoes]

I'd be fine with Killebrew for a S in the 4th but that will probably be a WR pick at R4

[MrPgh]

NTs just don't seem to be valued in the first round much these days.

[Born2Steel]

I'm hoping for DL or Safety at 2, with the other position at 3.

Now that we're here, Cook or Hackenberg? If so, when?

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I have the feeling the Steelers will ignore the DL in this Draft.....

I hope not. I don't see how they can. The numbers didn't get better by losing McLendon.

[Mojouw]

im still down for Spence as well. But I will be terrified if they dont go DL in the 3rd with Spence picked.

Why TJ Green? I understand you have been pointing out the athleticism thing but TJ Green is just awful. I mean really really bad. He's one of the most overrated prospects in the whole draft imo

Mostly because I was tired and scatterbrained last night. I've read a lot of conflicting stuff on him. Some say just a "workout warrior" and some say you get athleticism and production with a guy who has yet to really scratch the surface of his potential. And they brought him in for a visit.

[steelerkitty]

We will address two of three needs tonight, either WR-OLB ( Pass rusher )...or DL. We won't hit any other positions til Saturday.

[Born2Steel]

If Reggie Ragland and Myles Jack are both there at 58? I would take Ragland.

[BlackAndGold]

TJ Green is new to the safety position. He was a WR, and moved to safety after the 2013 season at Clemson. Very raw, but great athlete. (As a Clemson fan he(along with Kearse) cost us the National championship cause he couldn't tackle nor cover OJ Howard, and I'm still not over that btw)

Hopefully we get a good front 7 player plus a safety tonight.

[steelerkitty]

One " Sleeper " guy to look at today...The Center from Notre Dame Nick Martin. He is a heady player who plays the Steeler way. And he can be plugged in at C & G. Don't know if he is Value at 58...but he likely won't last to us in round 3 either.

[teegre]

One " Sleeper " guy to look at today...The Center from Notre Dame Nick Martin. He is a heady player who plays the Steeler way. And he can be plugged in at C & G. Don't know if he is Value at 58...but he likely won't last to us in round 3 either.

I agree: he is a great interior lineman. He'd be the heir-apparent for Ramon Foster. Winning in the NFL starts on the lines.

BUT... Steelers fans would flip out :mad: if the Steelers do not draft defense.

[polamalubeast]

One " Sleeper " guy to look at today...The Center from Notre Dame Nick Martin. He is a heady player who plays the Steeler way. And he can be plugged in at C & G. Don't know if he is Value at 58...but he likely won't last to us in round 3 either.


I not want drafted a high draft pick to be a backup.....

I break my TV if it happens.

[steelerkitty]

I not want drafted a high draft pick to be a backup.....

I break my TV if it happens.



But given our Starting Center is a Broken down, weak bodied Gang-Banger...Martin would not be a Back-up for long would he ?

[polamalubeast]

But given our Starting Center is a Broken down, weak bodied Gang-Banger...Martin would not be a Back-up for long would he ?

Wallace is a good backup....

[teegre]

But given our Starting Center is a Broken down, weak bodied Gang-Banger...Martin would not be a Back-up for long would he ?

I was with you... until this post. :doh:

[steelerkitty]

I was with you... until this post. :doh:



Sorry but as talented as he can be...Pouncey still acts the fool, especially when he is away from the field hanging with his Brother...who is worse. And forgetting the off the field stuff...he just costs too much and gets banged up too often.

[BlackAndGold]

If they somehow get Billings and KJ Dillon...

[SteelerFanInStl]

We will address two of three needs tonight, either WR-OLB ( Pass rusher )...or DL. We won't hit any other positions til Saturday.

WR is NOT a need for this season.

[teegre]

Sorry but as talented as he can be...Pouncey still acts the fool, especially when he is away from the field hanging with his Brother...who is worse. And forgetting the off the field stuff...he just costs too much and gets banged up too often.

:wtf:

[SteelerFanInStl]

Wallace is a good backup....

Not really. He's barely adequate.

[Dwinsgames]

word is Ray Lewis kid is being brought up on sexual misconduct charges

not kidding

[SteelerFanInStl]

Sorry but as talented as he can be...Pouncey still acts the fool, especially when he is away from the field hanging with his Brother...who is worse. And forgetting the off the field stuff...he just costs too much and gets banged up too often.

No failed drug tests, no arrests, no DUIs. I must be missing something.

[teegre]

If they somehow get Billings and KJ Dillon...

Great call.

I'd take almost any of the aforementioned DTs... and, yep, Dillon in R3 is a great idea.

NOTE: As I've mention in other threads, I'd move Dillon to FS (he's actually got better ball skills than he does "in the box" skills)... and move Mitchell to SS.

[BigNastyDefense]

Personally, I don't want to go DL in the second round. Give me another DB, probably a S.

Why? Your first two picks should be starters by their second season. Even if it's a NT, the Steelers are in the nickel/dime 60-70% of the time, taking your NT off the field essentially making him a backup player when it comes to playing time. We need a S, and I wouldn't turn down another CB because eventually Gay isn't going to be good anymore and Cockriel may turn out to just be a nickel/dime CB.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Personally, I don't want to go DL in the second round. Give me another DB, probably a S.

Why? Your first two picks should be starters by their second season. Even if it's a NT, the Steelers are in the nickel/dime 60-70% of the time, taking your NT off the field essentially making him a backup player when it comes to playing time. We need a S, and I wouldn't turn down another CB because eventually Gay isn't going to be good anymore and Cockriel may turn out to just be a nickel/dime CB.

who spells Tuitt and Heyward? a DL selection doesnt just make us better at NT, it makes Heyward and Tuitt a lot better too. We left a lot of W's on the table simply on the basis of Heyward/Tuitt gassing out, even though they have great motors they're only human. The denver game is one example

[Mojouw]

Need a rotational at worst DE and a position flexible "Super Sub/Starter" at best on the Dline. Kinda like a killer 6th man in basketball. That is what the Steelers need across the defensive front. Not sure of player or round, but it needs to happen or Tuitt and Heyward are going to burn out.

As to Pouncey - none of what has been posted (aside from injuries) is even true. I mean, if we don't care about facts, then I guess we can just say anything. Here are the center contracts. Pouncey is locked up until 2020 at a rate below other comparable players and with less % guaranteed. Meaning if these injury things continue, there is an out for the Steelers. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/center/

Starting in 2017, Pouncey is cheaper to cut than to pay. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/maurkice-pouncey/

If Pouncey can stay healthy, his contract is reaching the team friendly portion, It sucks that when he was earning most of the contract $$ he was hurt, but what can you do? It is all a gamble. But replacing him is about 97th on the list of priorities. I would sooner replace Timmons than Pouncey.

[Dwinsgames]

So could Reed actually be there at #58 as suggested a few months back by someone ?

naaaah ....

but it looks like there will be a very good DT waiting at 58 question is will they take one there or wait till rd 3 and grab a S at 58 ?

[teegre]

So could Reed actually be there at #58 as suggested a few months back by someone ?

naaaah ....

but it looks like there will be a very good DT waiting at 58 question is will they take one there or wait till rd 3 and grab a S at 58 ?

I hope that you're right... because, Reed at 58 would be a steal.
As would Billings.
Or, Robinson.

GOOD QUESTION:
S then DT ...or... DT then S

(I'll think about that one today, while I'm at SeaWorld.)

[hawaiiansteeler]

Does anyone have access, to see the other 22?

here are Mayock's top available players: (in order)

Myles Jack
A'Shawn Robinson
Jarran Reed
Reggie Ragland
Emmanuel Ogbah
Kevin Dodd
Noah Spence
Jihad Ward
Jason Spriggs
Hunter Henry
Nick Martin
Kamalei Correa
Cyrus Jones
Cody Whitehair
Sterling Shepard
Andrew Billings
Michael Thomas
Mackensie Alexander
Jerrel Adams
Carl Nassib
Devontae Booker
Su'a Cravens
Le'Raven Clark
Javon Hargrave
Vonn Bell
Tyler Boyd
Chris Jones
Austin Johnson

[hawaiiansteeler]

So could Reed actually be there at #58 as suggested a few months back by someone ?

naaaah ....



naaaah is correct. that poster who suggested that has never been right before and he won't be this time either.

both Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock have Jarran Reed as the third highest ranked player still available, he will be picked before the Steelers select at #58...

[BlackAndGold]

All 3 Bama players will go off the board fast.

I expect 2 RB's in round 2.

[steelreserve]

re: Pouncey, we don't even need to think about addressing the center position. We have an All-Pro starter, and without him, the line still performed the best it has in years. I would not be opposed to trying to deal him in a year or two if that was what netted us a star player at another key position, or was the difference between keeping one or not (Pouncey vs. Bell, for instance - that's a no-brainer to me). That is primarily a money thing. In that case we would need at least an above-average center, but those players exist.

As far as DL goes, I think we absolutely take one here unless the top 3 of Billings, Reed and Robinson are all gone, and I guess Hargraves. I'd even consider trading up a couple spots to get in front of those pesky Bengals if the player we want is there. Otherwise there is a big fat donut hole in the middle.

And as mentioned before, I don't think a DT we take here would be off the field two-thirds of the time. Shitty DTs come off the field in sub packages. Good DTs who can disrupt the pocket stay on and a shitty linebacker comes off instead. Makes sense, since there is really no such thing as a two-man rush in the NFL, so even in the nickel or dime, one of your LBs is rushing the passer, or in other words doing the same thing a lineman would be doing, only at a significant size disadvantage.

[teegre]

ILB Jack
OLB Spence
DT Hargrave
DT Billings
DT Robinson
DT Reed
DT Jones
DT Johnson
DE Bullard
DE Day
SS Cravens
SS Thompson
SS Bell
OLB Correa
OLB Calhoun
OLB Dodd

That is 15... I think one of them will be there at 58.

NOTE: In the past two drafts, Tomlin has tried to trade up to get "his guy". He couldn't get ODB (nor Aaron Donald) in 2014, nor could he get Landon Collins in 2015. Third time's a charm!!!

16 players... leaves 11 other picks.

RB Henry
TE Henry
WR Thomas
QB Cook
ILB Ragland
CB Alexander
CB Howard

...I need 4 more to secure a player from my list.

[Born2Steel]

16 players... leaves 11 other picks.

RB Henry
TE Henry
WR Thomas
QB Cook
ILB Ragland
CB Alexander
CB Howard

...I need 4 more to secure a player from my list.


You need some OL

[teegre]

You need some OL

Bingo!!!

[BlackAndGold]

Titans could be a trade partner. They are two picks in the 40s, wonder if they'd help us out since we have the LeBeau connection?

[steelreserve]

Titans could be a trade partner. They are two picks in the 40s, wonder if they'd help us out since we have the LeBeau connection?


I would say hell yes to this (it was one of my crazy scenarios). Two picks in the top half of round 2 is exactly what we want. Billings at 2/1 and we could either take our pick of CB/S at 2/12, or take a gamble on a player like Jack or Spence. I'd even be willing to include next year's first for that kind of deal. If we could somehow keep our existing #58 pick too by tossing in lower picks, I'd almost be willing to do that and call it a draft.

[steelerkitty]

Dr.James Andrews just Informed Myles Jack that he will NOT need any further Surgery, and that his knee will be 100 % within 4-6 months. Man, talk about Info that would have been helpful to him YESTERDAY!!!


Good for him though. I suspect with this news...Jack will come off the board pretty fast.

[Psycho Ward 86]

if Reed, Robinson, Billings, Hargraves, and Spence are all gone by #58 im going to flip...

[steelerkitty]

if Reed, Robinson, Billings, Hargraves, and Spence are all gone by #58 im going to flip...




Hargraves will be there, but he is not close to being a 2nd round pick. More like in the 10-20 range in round 3.

[steelreserve]

Dr.James Andrews just Informed Myles Jack that he will NOT need any further Surgery, and that his knee will be 100 % within 4-6 months. Man, talk about Info that would have been helpful to him YESTERDAY!!!


Good for him though. I suspect with this news...Jack will come off the board pretty fast.

The issue was never that he might need microfracture surgery now. It's that the original surgery removed something like 80% of the contact surface between bone and cartilage, so that knee is going to wear out SUPER quick and then it will need microfracture surgery or worse.



if Reed, Robinson, Billings, Hargraves, and Spence are all gone by #58 im going to flip...

Get ready to flip, then ... I would bet money that they all will be (Hargraves the one possible exception). I'm polishing my dog-kicking shoes up right now in anticipation of that.

[steelerkitty]

The issue was never that he might need microfracture surgery now. It's that the original surgery removed something like 80% of the contact surface between bone and cartilage, so that knee is going to wear out SUPER quick and then it will need microfracture surgery or worse.






Get ready to flip, then ... I would bet money that they all will be (Hargraves the one possible exception). I'm polishing my dog-kicking shoes up right now in anticipation of that.







Oh okay. Well thats not what that Doctor said. And James Andrews is the very best in the world.

[teegre]

The issue was never that he might need microfracture surgery now. It's that the original surgery removed something like 80% of the contact surface between bone and cartilage, so that knee is going to wear out SUPER quick and then it will need microfracture surgery or worse.

Steelkitty might be correct.

I was was just listening on the radio that Andrews says that Jack will recovery fully AND play 8-10 years.

If so... TRADE UP!!!

[BlackAndGold]

Jack won't get passed the Titans, what if the Jags somehow got Jack? boh him and Ramsey, my goodness.

[steelreserve]

Steelkitty might be correct.

I was was just listening on the radio that Andrews says that Jack will recovery fully AND play 8-10 years.

If so... TRADE UP!!!

Well if that's really what's going on, by all means, go for it. Titans may just want to use that pick on him instead. Our next year's first might only be a pick or two higher.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Steelkitty might be correct.

I was was just listening on the radio that Andrews says that Jack will recovery fully AND play 8-10 years.

If so... TRADE UP!!!

the Brownies must be discussing this very subject right now...

[teegre]

I would say hell yes to this (it was one of my crazy scenarios). Two picks in the top half of round 2 is exactly what we want. Billings at 2/1 and we could either take our pick of CB/S at 2/12, or take a gamble on a player like Jack or Spence. I'd even be willing to include next year's first for that kind of deal. If we could somehow keep our existing #58 pick too by tossing in lower picks, I'd almost be willing to do that and call it a draft.

You would HAVE to include next year's R1 AND #58 in order to get 33 AND 43.


More likely to trade up for just 43... which would cost us the R3 pick.

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the Brownies must be discussing this very subject right now...

My guess:
The Taperiots trade their two R2 picks to the Browns, for #32.

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Our next year's first might only be a pick or two higher.

Exactly

The Titans pick at #33... which will be one lower that the Steelers pick in 2017. :wink02:

[polamalubeast]

the Brownies must be discussing this very subject right now...



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[teegre]

Several mocks have the Steelers taking Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah St.

Uh... what???

[polamalubeast]

Several mocks have the Steelers taking Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah St.

Uh... what???


who?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Several mocks have the Steelers taking Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah St.

Uh... what???

the OLB the Steelerts reportedly like best is Kamalei Correa...

[teegre]

who?

Exactly!!! :huh:

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the OLB the Steelerts reportedly like best is Kamalei Correa...

Yep.
There were rumors of him linked to the Steelers... even at 25.

[teegre]

ILB Jack top player
OLB Spence met with Steelers
DT Hargrave met with Steelers; attended his pro day
DT Billings met with Steelers, ate dinner with parents & Joe Greene
DT Robinson met with Steelers; attended his pro day
DT Reed attended his pro day Colbert front & center
DT Jones
DT Johnson
DE Bullard
DE Day
SS Cravens (I know they showed interest)
SS Thompson met with Steelers
SS Bell met with Steelers
OLB Correa met with Steelers; attended his pro day
OLB Calhoun Michigan St.
OLB Dodd attended his pro day

[Psycho Ward 86]

Several mocks have the Steelers taking Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah St.

Uh... what???

sounds like he would fit in quite well with the hate train that Artie Burns is riding on :lol:

[teegre]

sounds like he would fit in quite well with the hate train that Artie Burns is riding on :lol:

Oh Fackrell!!! ...the Steelers got Burnsed for another touchdown!!!

[Psycho Ward 86]

Oh Fackrell!!! ...the Steelers got Burnsed for another touchdown!!!

Well at least if we draft him we'll never run out of puns :lol:

[teegre]

Well at least if we draft him we'll never run out of puns :lol:

I'm scouring the list of names, trying to figure out the R3 pick...

What a Hackenberg!!!

Brah, is he good? Nassib... he's not.

[Born2Steel]

Bingo!!!

You also forgot, A'Jarrandrew Robillinseed.

[steelreserve]

You would HAVE to include next year's R1 AND #58 in order to get 33 AND 43.


More likely to trade up for just 43... which would cost us the R3 pick.

Next year's first for this year's #32. Keep #58, trade the rest of the draft for 43 and go home. Throw in some shitty pick from next year if we have to. I'd be good with that.

[Born2Steel]

Several mocks have the Steelers taking Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah St.

Uh... what???

A Fackrell AND a Cockrell? On the same team? That's insane! They would kill each other, or cancel each other out. I forget which.

[Steelman]

Several mocks have the Steelers taking Kyler Fackrell, OLB, Utah St.

Uh... what???

God, that would be such a Steelers thing to do. :doh:

Take a damn d-lineman!!! They're all good, literally cannot miss there.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Draft Buzz: Will anyone select Myles Jack in Round 2?

By Around The NFL staff
Published: April 29, 2016

When Myles Jack admitted he could possibly have microfracture surgery in the future, an early slide in the NFL draft was anticipated. What wasn't expected, however, was the star UCLA linebacker falling completely out of the first round.

Now we have a better idea as to why he has had to wait until Friday night to hear his name called.

There is concern about how the bone and cartilage in Jack's right knee are starting to separate and could possibly lead to another surgery, several people who have seen his medical report told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.

While teams ultimately decided selecting Jack was too risky in the first round, there is one possible suitor for him early in the second round.

Rapoport reported the Jacksonville Jaguars could wind up taking the linebacker with the No. 38 pick, if they ultimately think he's worth the gamble and can play through his first contract. Jack, however, might choose to stay in hotel room than attend the second and third rounds of the Friday's draft.

Who would have imagined just a few weeks ago that a team could have the potential to land Jalen Ramsey and Jack in the same draft class?

Here are some other draft tidbits Around The NFL is tracking Friday:

1. Ravens cornerback Jimmy Smith will have surgery this week on his foot to remove the screws that were inserted from a previous procedure. If Baltimore is worried about Smith's recovery, could the team shore up its secondary at the draft Friday night?

2. The Browns have accumulated a multitude of draft picks by trading down, and executive vice president Sashi Brown might not be finished just yet. Rapoport reported that the Cowboys are interested in selecting a pass rusher, and want to trade up to acquire Cleveland's No. 32 overall pick.

3. NFL Media's Michael Silver reported the Rams are fielding trade offers for quarterback Nick Foles, and would also be willing to listen to teams that are interested in acquiring fellow QB Case Keenum.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000657717/article/draft-buzz-will-anyone-select-myles-jack-in-round-2

[teegre]

You also forgot, A'Jarrandrew Robillinseed.

:rofl2:

Post. Of. The. Draft!!!

:rofl2:

[teegre]

Next year's first for this year's #32. Keep #58, trade the rest of the draft for 43 and go home. Throw in some shitty pick from next year if we have to. I'd be good with that.

Done deal.

Call Colbert.

[BlackAndGold]

I predict a trade up, not one that will cost a lot of picks, but one that could involves swapping out 2nd round picks plus a future pick(5th?) to get their guy. (which could get us in the 40s, Titans the trade partner)

[teegre]

I predict a trade up, not one that will cost a lot of picks, but one that could involves swapping out 2nd round picks plus a future pick(5th?) to get their guy. (which could get us in the 40s, Titans the trade partner)

They have tried the past two drafts... third time's a charm.

[BlackAndGold]

They have tried the past two drafts... third time's a charm.

Yep, if they want a pass rusher, they'll have to go get one. Maybe they want a safety(Vonn Bell?)

[Dwinsgames]

naaaah is correct. that poster who suggested that has never been right before and he won't be this time either.

both Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock have Jarran Reed as the third highest ranked player still available, he will be picked before the Steelers select at #58...

surprised he ( and several others ) are not already off the board , was a strange first round especially near the end

[teegre]

was a strange first round

The strangest that I've seen... and I've watched for two decades.

[hawaiiansteeler]

good choice by the Brownies, that's the player the Cowgirls also reportedly wanted...

[BlackAndGold]

Jack to Titans? I could see Dodd here.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Jack to Titans? I could see Dodd here.

one of the edge rushers...

[steelreserve]

Done deal.

Call Colbert.


Unfortunately he won't take my calls anymore. I think he got mad at me after I almost got him to pass on Wheaton in 2013 and use his 3rd-round pick on an obscure pass rusher from a D-II school whose name I made up by reading off the Taco Bell menu. Would've worked too if the jerk behind me hadn't ruined it by honking.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I could see Dodd here.

good call...:thumbsup:

[BlackAndGold]

Jaylon Smith wow!!!!

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good call...:thumbsup:

Luck lol

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Could see Bell to SD. Maybe Hunter Henry? Gates is older and of course lost Green.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Could see Bell to SD. Maybe Hunter Henry? Gates is older and of course lost Green.

good job, you're on a roll...:drink:

[BlackAndGold]

Jacksonville trade up? Jack and Ramsey on the same team?

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good job, you're on a roll...:drink:

Getting lottery tickets, brb lol

[hawaiiansteeler]

Jacksonville trade up? Jack and Ramsey on the same team?

Getting lottery tickets, brb lol

yup, this was the perfect spot for Jack's slide to end.

buy a lottery ticket for me too, I'll pay you back out of my winnings! :wink02:

[BlackAndGold]

Devito retired so KC will probably take one of Robinson, Reed or Jones.

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Jacksonville taking the AFC South division.

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When will the first offensive player go? Giants? They could go WR.

[steelreserve]

At this point I'm convinced you have someone on the inside. So please try and use that to help us move up in the second round. Call the Raiders pretending to be Bill Belichick and offer them a sucker trade for pick #13.


edit: Fuck! There went Howard. I didn't think he and Burns would BOTH be gone before Alexander.

[BlackAndGold]

There was talks that Howard would higher than expected.

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Thought Tampa may have taken Spence in round 1, think he goes there.

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Omg, I'm on fire. Knew they liked him and seen countless Spence to Bucs mocks. Easy.

[steelreserve]

Seriously, either go buy some damn lottery tickets or have your inside guy rig things for us.

[hawaiiansteeler]

There was talks that Howard would higher than expected.

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Thought Tampa may have taken Spence in round 1, think he goes there.

yeah, the Bucs badly needed a pass rusher...

as for Howard, I think that was a reach but CBs are at a premium in today's pass-happy NFL...

[Drazo85]

Some twitter magic...

[BlackAndGold]

QB to Buffalo? or one of the Bama players

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Forgot about Ragland

[steelreserve]

So far 10 picks without one of the DL guys I want gone ... good stuff (probably will be a tease with Billings to the Bengals)

[BlackAndGold]

yeah, the Bucs badly needed a pass rusher...

as for Howard, I think that was a reach but CBs are at a premium in today's pass-happy NFL...

Agreed, I like Spence to Bucs, Gotta get after Cam, Brees and Ryan.

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Theres another potential pass rusher off the board.

[steelreserve]

yeah, the Bucs badly needed a pass rusher...

as for Howard, I think that was a reach but CBs are at a premium in today's pass-happy NFL...


Yeah, and looking back on the Burns pick, it could've been a lot worse. Usually the choice we face at corner is spend a R1 pick on a borderline R3 guy, or take no one at all. At least this guy has the credentials to possibly be worth it. Still preferred Alexander personally, but what can you do about it.

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If Correa is off the board, I count that good news. I don't think I would've liked that pick.

[teegre]

We have two threads going...

[BlackAndGold]

We have two threads going...

ah crap, headed over to the draft day thread.

[Shoes]

Updated list
52. Andrew Billings (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/andrew-billings?id=2555267), DT, Baylor (6-0 5/8, 311, 5.05 40)
53. Devontae Booker (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/devontae-booker?id=2555223), RB, Utah (5-10 3/4, 219, no 40 time)
56. Connor Cook (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/connor-cook?id=2555332), QB, Michigan State (6-4, 217, 4.79 40)
62. Evan Boehm (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/evan-boehm?id=2555181), C, Missouri (6-2 1/8, 302, 5.33 40)
67. Zack Sanchez (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/zack-sanchez?id=2555548), CB, Oklahoma (5-10 7/8, 181, 4.49 40)
71. Jordan Howard (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jordan-howard?id=2555418), RB, Indiana (6-0 1/8, 223, 4.59 40)
74. Christian Westerman (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/christian-westerman?id=2555131), OG, Arizona State (6-3 1/8, 298, 5.17 40)
76. Hassan Ridgeway (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hassan-ridgeway?id=2555514), DT, Texas (6-3 3/8, 303, 5.02 40)
80. Kenneth Dixon (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kenneth-dixon?id=2555229), RB, Louisiana Tech (5-10 1/8, 215, 4.58 40)
81. Dak Prescott (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/dak-prescott?id=2555260), QB, Mississippi State (6-2 1/4, 226, 4.79 40)
82. Miles Killebrew (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/miles-killebrew?id=2555315), S, Southern Utah (6-1 7/8, 217, 4.65 40)
83. DeAndre Houston-Carson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/deandre-houston-carson?id=2555381), S, William & Mary (6-0 3/4, 201, 4.54 40)
85. Willie Beavers (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/willie-beavers?id=2555208), OT, Western Michigan (6-4 1/2, 321, 5.28 40)
89. Joshua Perry (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joshua-perry?id=2555326), ILB, Ohio State (6-3 3/4, 254, 4.68 40)
90. Nick Kwiatkoski (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/nick-kwiatkoski?id=2555288), ILB, West Virginia (6-2, 243, 4.73 40)
93. Jerald Hawkins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jerald-hawkins?id=2555420), OT, LSU (6-5 5/8, 305, 5.23 40)
94. Vadal Alexander (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vadal-alexander?id=2555146), OG, LSU (6-5 1/4, 326, 5.57 40)
96. Blake Martinez (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/blake-martinez?id=2555161), ILB, Stanford (6-1 5/8, 237, 4.71 40)
97. Joe Dahl (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joe-dahl?id=2555136), OG, Washington State (6-4 1/8, 304, 5.18 40)
98. Sheldon Day (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/sheldon-day?id=2555241), DT, Notre Dame (6-0 1/2, 293, 5.07 40)
100. Kolby Listenbee (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kolby-listenbee?id=2555350), WR, TCU (6-0, 197, 4.37 40)
101. Ron Thompson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/ron-thompson?id=2555516), DE, Syracuse (6-3 3/4, 253, 4.92 40)
102. Jerell Adams (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jerell-adams?id=2555311), TE, South Carolina (6-5 1/8, 247, 4.64 40)
103. Alex Collins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/alex-collins?id=2555430), RB, Arkansas (5-10, 217, 4.59 40)
104. Jonathan Williams (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jonathan-williams?id=2555227), RB, Arkansas (5-11 1/8, 216, 4.59 40)
105. Paul Perkins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/paul-perkins?id=2555460), RB, UCLA (5-10 3/8, 208, 4.54 40)
106. Eric Murray (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/eric-murray?id=2555173), CB, Minnesota (5-10 5/8, 199, 4.49 40)
107. Avery Young (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/avery-young?id=2555497), OT, Auburn (6-4 5/8, 328, 5.39 40)
108. Aaron Burbridge (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/aaron-burbridge?id=2555362), WR, Michigan State (6-0, 206, 4.5 40)
109. Quinton Jefferson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/quinton-jefferson?id=2555358), DT, Maryland (6-3 7/8, 291, 4.95 40)
110. Connor McGovern (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/connor-mcgovern?id=2555133), OG, Missouri (6-4 1/4, 306, 5.11 40)
111. Kevin Hogan (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kevin-hogan?id=2555263), QB, Stanford (6-3 1/4, 218, 4.78 40)
113. Devon Cajuste (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/devon-cajuste?id=2555276), WR, Stanford (6-3 3/4, 234, 4.62 40)
114. Temarrick Hemingway (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/temarrick-hemingway?id=2555486), TE, South Carolina State (6-4 7/8, 244, 4.71 40)
115. Malcolm Mitchell (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/malcolm-mitchell?id=2555216), WR, Georgia (5-11 5/8, 198, 4.45 40)
116. Josh Ferguson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/josh-ferguson?id=2555228), RB, Illinois (5-9 5/8, 196, 4.48 40)
117. Kelvin Taylor (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kelvin-taylor?id=2555462), RB, Florida (5-10 1/4, 207, 4.6 40)
118. Chris Moore (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/chris-moore?id=2555209), WR, Cincinnati (6-1, 208, 4.53 40)
119. Jack Allen (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jack-allen?id=2555183), C, Michigan State (6-1 1/4, 294, 5.29 40)
120. Caleb Benenoch (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/caleb-benenoch?id=2555488), OT, UCLA (6-5 1/2, 311, 4.98 40)
122. Joe Haeg (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joe-haeg?id=2555371), OT, North Dakota State (6-6, 304, 5.16 40)
124. Cardale Jones (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cardale-jones?id=2555426), QB, Ohio State (6-5, 253, 4.81 40)
125. Rashard Higgins (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/rashard-higgins?id=2555468), WR, Colorado State (6-1 3/8, 196, 4.64 40)
126. Dadi Nicolas (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/dadi-nicolas?id=2555254), DE, Virginia Tech (6-2 7/8, 235, 4.74 40)
127. Paul McRoberts (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/paul-mcroberts?id=2555290), WR, SE Missouri State (6-1 3/4, 202, 4.69 40)
129. Dominique Robertson (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/dominique-robertson?id=2555494), OT, West Georgia (6-4 5/8, 324, 5.36 40)
130. Brandon Shell (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/brandon-shell?id=2555193), OT, South Carolina (6-5 3/8, 324, 5.22 40)
131. Alex Lewis (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/alex-lewis?id=2555353), OT, Nebraska (6-6, 312, 5.22 40)
132. Spencer Drango (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/spencer-drango?id=2555144), OG, Baylor (6-4 5/8, 315, 5.27 40)
133. Matt Judon (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/matt-judon?id=2555505), DE, Grand Valley State (6-3, 275, 4.73 40)
136. Jalen Mills (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jalen-mills?id=2555383), S, LSU (6-1, 191, 4.47 40)
137. Deon Bush (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/deon-bush?id=2555155), S, Miami (Fla.) (6-0 3/8, 199, 4.6 40)
138. Jayron Kearse (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jayron-kearse?id=2555156), S, Clemson (6-4, 216, 4.62 40)
139. Travis Feeney (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/travis-feeney?id=2555298), OLB, Washington (6-3 5/8, 230, 4.5 40)

[BlackAndGold]

Pharoh Cooper, Jeremy Cash, Jatvis Brown, Tyler Ervin

Cash would a nice player that would help in subpackage either as a safety or linebacker, same with Brown.

[teegre]

If Andrew Billings is there, take him. Great value pick. Sheldon Day would provide depth. For an additional D-lineman, Quentin Jefferson visited.

I like Tyler Ervin.

I reeeeally want a pass-rush specialist. That was going to be Nassib (in my mind). DE or OLB or some mixture, as long as he can rush the passer. Who though??? It's a little early for Victor Ochi. This doesn't seem to be the best round to add a pass-rusher.

Nick Kwiatkoski is a very interesting player. He was a safety, who switched to linebacker. A poor man's Su'a Cravens.

It would be nice to give Munchack an OG to develop and eventually take over for Ramon Foster. Jerald Hawkins visited. So did Caleb Benenoch. I like the OGs from Arkansas: Denver Kirkland and Sebastian Trelota. Spencer Drango is a fan favorite. As are Connor McGovern and Jack Collins.

Pharoah Cooper visited.

A bunch of corners and safeties visited, but I don't see them going that direction here. I do see them adding Tavon Young in R6; he's a tough hitting, but small, corner.

Lastly, Dak Prescott visited. Connor Cook was discussed as an option at 89. But, I really like Kevin Hogan.

[BlackAndGold]

I just think Jeremy Cash would be great value in round 4. He's perfect for sub package football, something Tomlin and crew have talked about during the whole process. He's a LB/S. He'd be great.

[teegre]

I just think Jeremy Cash would be great value in round 4. He's perfect for sub package football, something Tomlin and crew have talked about during the whole process. He's a LB/S. He'd be great.

Good point.

That is the exact reason why I listed Kwiatkoski.

[BlackAndGold]

Good point.

That is the exact reason why I listed Kwiatkoski.

At the same time, drafting a WR would be ideal. Since Bryant's future here is questionable, and Wheaton will be a FA.

Wonder if they're happy with the o-line group?

Really dislike not having a 5th round pick.

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Could have been, 4. Cash 5. Ervin 6. Benenoch

Just great.

[teegre]

At the same time, drafting a WR would be ideal. Since Bryant's future here is questionable, and Wheaton will be a FA.

Wonder if they're happy with the o-line group?

Really dislike not having a 5th round pick.

They're very adept at drafting WRs. I just assume that the next guy will replace the last guy. Wheaton is replaced by Coates, who is replaced by this pick.

The O-line is set, but in order to prevent a repeat of 2006-2009, they need to start developing players to replace this current group.

Yep... because, this might be a round early for Ervin.

[Texasteel]

They're very adept at drafting WRs. I just assume that the next guy will replace the last guy. Wheaton is replaced by Coates, who is replaced by this pick.

The O-line is set, but in order to prevent a repeat of 2006-2009, they need to start developing players to replace this current group.

Yep... because, this might be a round early for Ervin.

This is one reason I think we may talk trade with this pick. There is still a couple of RBs rated ahead of Ervin, did anyone take Collins yet. We could get Ervin with a lower pick, but I don't think he will make it out of the 5th, and we don't have a 5th rounder.

[teegre]

[/B]This is one reason I think we may talk trade with this pick. There is still a couple of RBs rated ahead of Ervin, did anyone take Collins yet. We could get Ervin with a lower pick, but I don't think he will make it out of the 5th, and we don't have a 5th rounder.

Collins is still there.

So is Howard.
And, Dixon.
And, Perkins.
And, Booker.

If all of those guys are still there, one could trade back and still get Ervin (or, one of them) at the top of R5.

[Psycho Ward 86]

if we get Booker or Ervin, what are your thoughts on keeping 4 RB's on the roster (Bell, Williams, Toussaint, and Booker/Ervin)? Its a long ways down the road, but i think it should be done (at least thinking about it on the surface), since Williams is probably done with us after this year anyways

[teegre]

Williams is probably done with us after this year anyways

Exactly.

Plus, he has been injured every season that he has played.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Exactly.

Plus, he has been injured every season that he has played.

yeah and i think with the position flexibility that Javon Hargrave, Doran Grant and Sean Davis offer, maaaaybe we can save some roster spots for other places when we cut down to 53

[teegre]

yeah and i think with the position flexibility that Javon Hargrave, Doran Grant and Sean Davis offer, maaaaybe we can save some roster spots for other places when we cut down to 53

Good point.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Also if anyone is intereted in a late round receiver, there's Daniel Braverman out of western michigan who I mocked to us.

Small, white receiver with crazy short area quickness. Bucky Brooks compared him to every small white receiver with quickness in the NFL basically: Danny Amendola, Cole Beasely, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman (dead serious, just saw him on nfl network) :lol:

[pczach]

Also if anyone is intereted in a late round receiver, there's Daniel Braverman out of western michigan who I mocked to us.

Small, white receiver with crazy short area quickness. Bucky Brooks compared him to every small white receiver with quickness in the NFL basically: Danny Amendola, Cole Beasely, Wes Welker, Julian Edelman (dead serious, just saw him on nfl network) :lol:

I love Malcolm Mitchell. Huge talent and 5 star player coming out of high school. Had some knee injuries, but a dynamic player still getting better at the position. He's a big-time athlete.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfftQY2Jgfc



Bralon Addison later. Another Oregon player in the mold of De'Anthony Thomas and LaMichael James with incredible moves and quickness. He's not fast, but is so shifty and quick, can be impossible to cover. He can line up at RB. He is a very good WR. He is a very good return man. He can even throw the ball in trick plays. Love this kid.

He's not as fast as Dri Archer, but he is a great athlete and is better at everything than Archer. What a great weapon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n30U4QYP89s