NFL Draft Day 2016 thread

[JayC]

really glad we traded our 5th round pick for a guy coach had no interest in playing or resigning

[teegre]

I'm out.

I have the the kids by myself today... and they've been good for an hour & a half. Time to take them to the park or go SeaWorld or take naps.


Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
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[pczach]

At this point, I'm ready for the Steelers to take some shots at small-school possibilities. Maybe someone who can step in quickly as punt returner and work his way into the roster as a CB or WR



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COmOwbwBW1g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRboKCK32gw

[hawaiiansteeler]

I'm afraid that doesn't give us enough time.

Maybe we can discuss if questioning Bill Cowher's quarterback picks takes away my Steelers Fan Card.

did you know Bill Cowher didn't want to select Big Ben and our meddling owner had to step in and overrule him? :stirthepot:

[Craic]

Here's another thought . . . Do we want to try and go TE in the next pick? Yes, we picked one up, but I'd like to see us develop another one from within as well. Just looking at metrics alone (I don't watch college FB), a couple names are intriguing. Beau Sandland had a top 6 40 for TE, and benched 23 times. He also shows good vertical at 35" and tops in broad jump. And, the kid can hit as a blocker. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=8F38ubP9uuE)

[pczach]

did you know Bill Cowher didn't want to select Big Ben and our meddling owner had to step in and overrule him? :stirthepot:


Really? I've never heard that before. :lol:

[Shoes]

WR or LB in R6

[tube517]

You'd like Morgan Burns CB, Kansas St

Great return man, that may be able to develop into a corner that can contribute down the road.

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I'm afraid that doesn't give us enough time.

Maybe we can discuss if questioning Bill Cowher's quarterback picks takes away my Steelers Fan Card.


Is Burns 2' 8" and run a 2.9 forty???? :chuckle:

[fansince'76]

Is Burns 2' 8" and run a 2.9 forty???? :chuckle:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ZXDD2SU5w

:chuckle:

[pczach]

Is Burns 2' 8" and run a 2.9 forty???? :chuckle:


Something like that. :D

Actually, he's 5' 11" 200 lbs

And he does that against Division 1 schools with real talent.

[Craic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ZXDD2SU5w

:chuckle:

WAIT - WE DRAFTED ANOTHER OOMPA LOOMPA?

[pczach]

I'm out.

I have the the kids by myself today... and they've been good for an hour & a half. Time to take them to the park or go SeaWorld or take naps.


Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
Victor Ochi in R6.
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What a ridiculous pick. I can't believe you would want him on our football team. That pick is so bad, I'm embarrassed for you. The Steelers shouldn't even look at this guy. They should run the other way. If someone in the war room mentions his name, they should be fired on the spot or at the very least be forced to sniff Cam Thomas' jock strap.

:wink02:

[hawaiiansteeler]

If someone in the war room mentions his name, they should be fired on the spot or at the very least be forced to sniff Cam Thomas' jock strap.



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[slippy]

any idea why Billings fell so far? half the talk on this board for weeks was wether we would take him in R1 because he'd be gone by our R2 pick.

[pczach]

https://media.giphy.com/media/H4wUvhRHnb2TK/giphy.gif


:rofl2:

[hawaiiansteeler]

any idea why Billings fell so far? half the talk on this board for weeks was wether we would take him in R1 because he'd be gone by our R2 pick.

the other half was how we should trade up in R1 because he'll never make it to #25...:chuckle:

[BlackAndGold]

They're trying to trade into the 5th round...via Kaboly

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Trade both 7th round picks?

[pczach]

They're trying to trade into the 5th round...via Kaboly


If there's a player there they really like, they have to go get him. It doesn't cost a lot to move up to get him.

[BlackAndGold]

If there's a player there they really like, they have to go get him. It doesn't cost a lot to move up to get him.

Agreed, I'd see if a team would take both 7th's or, a 7th and next years 6th?? to move in the 5th round.

[Craic]

Here's another thought . . . Do we want to try and go TE in the next pick? Yes, we picked one up, but I'd like to see us develop another one from within as well. Just looking at metrics alone (I don't watch college FB), a couple names are intriguing. Beau Sandland had a top 6 40 for TE, and benched 23 times. He also shows good vertical at 35" and tops in broad jump. And, the kid can hit as a blocker. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=8F38ubP9uuE)

You know, the more I look at the kid, the more I like what I see. I'd love to see this guy in the 5th or 6th round. I think we could see him on the field a bit towards the end of this year, and have him more of a constant next year. Give him a couple of years to fill out and the coaches to work with him, I think he might be a solid contributor.

NFL combine tape. (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000643494/2016-Combine-workout-Beau-Sandland) Here's tape (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF7wJqcOU6k)from his Junior College days.

[Shoes]

Probably want LB J Brown

[hawaiiansteeler]

They're trying to trade into the 5th round...via Kaboly



Jeremy Cash, Jatavis Brown or DJ White?

[BlackAndGold]

Jeremy Cash, Jatavis Brown or DJ White?

Could see them liking the first two. This is a defensive draft, if they like a guy, they need to get him.

[steelreserve]

any idea why Billings fell so far? half the talk on this board for weeks was wether we would take him in R1 because he'd be gone by our R2 pick.

Word last night was he had a surprise knee problem that teams were concerned about. I just hope be doesn't turn out to really be a first round talent and now he's busting our balls for the next 10 years. Somewhere, BengalGirl5150 is laughing her ass off.

We haven't taken a linebacker yet, lost one ILB and are set to lose 2-3 OLBs next year depending on whether we re-sign anyone. I would be stunned if we didn't take one this draft; maybe that's what this trading up talk is about.

[stillers4me]

I'm on my tablet right now so I can't post the tweet, but Kaboly just posted that we are snooping around trying to get into the fifth round for someone.

[Vis]

I'm on my tablet right now so I can't post the tweet, but Kaboly just posted that we are snooping around trying to get into the fifth round for someone.

I'm sure it's whoever Cinci just picked

[stillers4me]

[emoji38]

[Shoes]

I think the rats, Bengals and Browns are getting three picks to our one in this draft.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Here's another thought . . . Do we want to try and go TE in the next pick? Yes, we picked one up, but I'd like to see us develop another one from within as well. Just looking at metrics alone (I don't watch college FB), a couple names are intriguing. Beau Sandland had a top 6 40 for TE, and benched 23 times. He also shows good vertical at 35" and tops in broad jump. And, the kid can hit as a blocker. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=8F38ubP9uuE)

idk about that. do you plan on keeping 4 tight ends on the roster? because Green is definitely staying, Spaeth is still an invaluable blocker, and we just got Jesse James. I wouldnt want this kid unless he can at the very least, block like a mad man

[Craic]

idk about that. do you plan on keeping 4 tight ends on the roster? because Green is definitely staying, Spaeth is still an invaluable blocker, and we just got Jesse James. I wouldnt want this kid unless he can at the very least, block like a mad man

I"m not sold on James. On top of which, I have no problem putting the guy on the PS for the beginning of the year. He seems like he can both block and catch, and has a drive to finish plays from some of his highlights. Of course, those pick the best plays, so who knows.

[Psycho Ward 86]

DAMN. I wanted Drango!

[Vis]

We didn't get back into the 5th round. Maybe a move up in the 6th, but I doubt it.

[Shoes]

I think the steelers are watching all their picks vanish before their eyes. J Brown to the chargers

[Psycho Ward 86]

Jatavis Brown to the chargers. wonder if thats who we were after. he did come in for a visit after all.

dark horse speculation: Maybe it was Kalan Reed. Gotta remember that our 6th round pick is reaaaally deep in the 6th round so its more like a 7th round pick really.

I want Kalan Reed so bad. And yes, I'm willing to hold onto 6 CB's to do it (at least if you count Doran Grant on that 6. Personally i would prefer to let Sean Davis and Grant focus on becoming safeties for now)

[Shoes]

Jatavis Brown to the chargers. wonder if thats who we were after. he did come in for a visit after all.

dark horse speculation: Maybe it was Kalan Reed. Gotta remember that our 6th round pick is reaaaally deep in the 6th round so its more like a 7th round pick really.

I want Kalan Reed so bad. And yes, I'm willing to hold onto 6 CB's to do it (at least if you count Doran Grant on that 6. Personally i would prefer to let Sean Davis and Grant focus on becoming safeties for now)

Yes, I believe Brown was in for a visit

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DJ White to KC

[Psycho Ward 86]

Harlan Miller and Jonathan Jones are 2 corners we showed interest in that might have been targets for the trade up as well. Personally id rather have Kalan Reed, but Jonathan Jones could be a legit candidate to get early playing time

[JayC]

did the Jaguars get our pick?

[steelerkitty]

did the Jaguars get our pick?



Yes...for that Kicker who will remain silent here.

[JayC]

Yes...for that Kicker who will remain silent here.

oh that guy lulz

[pczach]

They're getting ready to interview Coach Tomlin on NFL Network.

It will be good to get his insights into the draft and the players they took. I guess this is a makeup for going to commercial for every freaking pick!

Just wanted to give a heads up.

[Kent]

I wouldnt mind picking up the next Tom Brady here in the 6th.

[hawaiiansteeler]

I wouldnt mind picking up the next Tom Brady here in the 6th.

I'll take another AB here in the 6th, please...

[pczach]

I'll take another AB here in the 6th, please...

Ain't that the truth! :amen:

[Psycho Ward 86]

QB Brandon Allen, OLB Dadi Nicolas, CB Harlan Miller all guys we were interested in gone.

if we truly go BPA, Jonathan Jones or Kalan Reed have to be in the conversation. I would not mind having 6 CB's on the roster this season, even though we have 2 CB/S types in Davis and Grant

[Kent]

Driskel was the QB I wanted

[hawaiiansteeler]

QB Brandon Allen, OLB Dadi Nicolas, CB Harlan Miller all guys we were interested in gone.

if we truly go BPA, Jonathan Jones or Kalan Reed have to be in the conversation. I would not mind having 6 CB's on the roster this season, even though we have 2 CB/S types in Davis and Grant

Davis isn't going to play CB for us, he's going to be a safety...

[pczach]

I'll take another AB here in the 6th, please...


They just said on NFL Network that this is the last year that teams can't trade compensatory picks. Next year they will be able to trade them.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Davis isn't going to play CB for us, he's going to be a safety...

right, but he has that flexibility. just adding in that counter point for those who might be against us drafting another corner..Some people will feel like we have 7 true cornerbacks on the roster if we draft another one. i dont agree with that sentiment

[hawaiiansteeler]

They just said on NFL Network that this is the last year that teams can't trade compensatory picks. Next year they will be able to trade them.

thanks for the clarification, I had read that they changed the rule but didn't realize that it takes effect next year.

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right, but he has that flexibility. just adding in that counter point for those who might be against us drafting another corner..Some people will feel like we have 7 true cornerbacks on the roster if we draft another one. i dont agree with that sentiment

having too many good CBs...

now wouldn't that be a great problem to have?

[Shoes]

Possible picks

Charone Peake WR

Scooby Wright ILB

Vadal Alexander OG

Jack Allen C , I like this kid, a human pitbull

Landon Turner OG

[Psycho Ward 86]

thanks for the clarification, I had read that they changed the rule but didn't realize that it takes effect next year.

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having too many good CBs...

now wouldn't that be a great problem to have?

it would. and we'll have that problem if we choose Kalan Reed. He can play everywhere. Im surprised no one's picked him yet. I felt like he was a guy everyone was interested in and hoping no one else finds out about (22 teams at his pro day, and no other interesting players on his team). he shut down Amari Cooper last season.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Im hoping for:

1) Kalan Reed
2) Jonathan Jones
3) Vadal Alexander

in that order

[Shoes]

Travis Feeney LB

[pczach]

We're almost there.

I'm thinking possible picks

Ochi
Peake
Jeremy Cash
Jalen Mills,
Bralon Addison
Kalen Reed

[steelerkitty]

Freeny is actually really good value here. His biggest knock has been his lack of weight for his height to play LB. But he is a good player

[polamalubeast]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/travis-feeney?id=2555298

[Psycho Ward 86]

Never heard of this Feeney kid but here we go again with the athletic freaks of nature:

linebacker that runs a 4.5 flat 40, 40 inch vertical, 130inch broad jump, 11.71 60 yard shuttle (All top times for his position)

[st33lersguy]

Freeny is actually really good value here. His biggest knock has been his lack of weight for his height to play LB. But he is a good player

They showed his stats last year and they were impressive. They could use more depth at the position

[steelerkitty]

They showed his stats last year and they were impressive. They could use more depth at the position





Yeah and another thing about Freeney...you GOTTA love his " SWAGGER " and Confidence!



http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-football/uws-travis-feeney-on-nfl-draft-whoever-passes-on-me-theyre-going-to-regret-it/

[Psycho Ward 86]

just read that Feeney was projected by some as a possibility to sneak into the 2nd/3rd round

[hawaiiansteeler]

Freeny is actually really good value here. His biggest knock has been his lack of weight for his height to play LB. But he is a good player

his biggest knock imo is that he has undergone four shoulder surgeries over his collegiate career, twice tearing the labrum in his left shoulder and once the right as well...

[Craic]

Feeney is 6'4" 230 pounds and ran the 40 in 4.5 seconds. Also a safety that was converted to a LB.

This pick has dime/quarter defense written on it - as well as a possible cover-3 for certain situations, having a LB that can drop back as safety or come up. Maybe a Nickel back for certain situations.

[pczach]

He's had four shoulder surgeries.

He's a hybrid OLB/S. His injury issues seem to tell you that he will be used more in coverage than at the point of attack.

He's very athletic, only the injuries are a concern.

[Psycho Ward 86]

He's had four shoulder surgeries.

He's a hybrid OLB/S. His injury issues seem to tell you that he will be used more in coverage than at the point of attack.

He's very athletic, only the injuries are a concern.



yikes.

i bet this next pick is a QB, but both my corners are still on the board so fingers crossed

[steelerkitty]

Nah, we will go with a WR

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WR...Told you guys!!!

[polamalubeast]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/demarcus-ayers?id=2555465

[pczach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpnlZqvSXrU

[Psycho Ward 86]

A slow midget receiver with bad hands. great combo. at least we know we can develop receivers

good thing were in the crap shoot rounds or else id be going nuts.

[st33lersguy]

There's thw trademark WR selection

[Craic]

Nah, we will go with a WR

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WR...Told you guys!!!

I think he's going to be a return guy, actually.

[polamalubeast]

A slow midget receiver with bad hands. great combo. at least we know we can develop receivers

good thing were in the crap shoot rounds or else id be going nuts.

The next Antonio Brown:chuckle:

[hawaiiansteeler]

we picked Ayers for his abilities as a return man...

[steelerkitty]

Yeah, Mel Kiper had this guy ranked like 747th on his best prospect list. Slow, small, and had a drop ratio of over 60 %...WTF! Why did we take this guy ?...to make our OTHER practice squad WR look good ?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Yeah, Mel Kiper had this guy ranked like 747th on his best prospect list. Slow, small, and had a drop ratio of over 60 %...WTF! Why did we take this guy ?...to make our OTHER practice squad WR look good ?

because he's good at returning punts and kickoffs...

[Shoes]

They should have taken Daniel Braverman imo. The Bears did right after the Steelers pick

[Psycho Ward 86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpnlZqvSXrU

i gotta say, his field awareness looks excellent. albeit on a highlight reel

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They should have taken Daniel Braverman imo. The Bears did right after the Steelers pick

agreed. i had him mocked to us in the 7th

[Iron Steeler]

demarca ayers theres our throw away pick

[polamalubeast]

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[pczach]

i gotta say, his field awareness looks excellent. albeit on a highlight reel

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agreed. i had him mocked to us in the 7th


I liked WR Bralon Addison from Oregon better as a player/receiver. He's faster and more sure handed.

I liked CB Morgan Burns from Kansas St better as a return man. Very fast to translate to the next level better IMO.

[Psycho Ward 86]

Martavis doesnt count as part of the roster right now correct? If so, it looks like this kid will have a chance to make the roster

[Shoes]

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Danny bubblegum Smith, go away!

[Iron Steeler]

feeney only 230 lbs he is gonna get crused by pro gaurds and tackles

[Craic]

feeney only 230 lbs he is gonna get crused by pro gaurds and tackles

I doubt we'll see him in their vicinity. Coverage linebacker - sub packages.

[Iron Steeler]

Feeny looks very strong up top. He needs to work on the lower body and mabye pack on 5-7 more lbs muscle.

[polamalubeast]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/tyler-matakevich?id=2555171

[steelerkitty]

A Yomans LB. Lots of Tackles. Not much Athleticism. Could be a ST player.

[st33lersguy]

I like this pick. Dude is tough and productive as shit!

[steelerkitty]

I like this pick. Dude is tough and productive as shit!




Yeah he is active. Here is highlight reel.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyMPO1ldhpA

[pczach]

The question now becomes which undrafted free agents do the Steelers make offers to and who do they sign. There are still good football players out there, and players that are capable of making rosters.


Here's an Undrafted Free Agent Tracker: http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/04/30/2016-nfl-draft-undrafted-free-agent-tracker/

[stillers4me]

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[steelreserve]

I like the Feeney pick ... probably not much of a pass rusher at this point, but I guess we got tired of having linebackers who leave the big lumbering tight end wide open on 3rd-and-8.

The rest - well, what do you want, it's the 7th round. Scattershot at positions where you might need depth in a year or two. If we get anything out of either one, it's a bonus.

[lipps83]

The question now becomes which undrafted free agents do the Steelers make offers to and who do they sign. There are still good football players out there, and players that are capable of making rosters.


Here's an Undrafted Free Agent Tracker: http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2016/04/30/2016-nfl-draft-undrafted-free-agent-tracker/

Would like to see them try to sign Morgan Burns to fill return duties.

[steelreserve]

Devaunte Sigler ... guess we figured out we still need another warm body on the defensive line and the guy we signed from the Chargers sucked shit. Well, here's hoping for the best; hard to argue with free.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I like the Matakevich pick. The dude has a real nose for the ball. If nothing else, he'll be a special teams demon.

[86WARD]

JOEY BOSA !! God help the Chargers. He was as Inconsistent of a player that I saw last season.

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[pczach]

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Wow! Hopping in the Way-Back Machine.... :grin: