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StillCurtains
12-10-2015, 04:37 PM
Hey guys!

I don't need to mention how big this one is! We all know the tension after the first meeting with Burfict taking out Bell for the second straight meeting. The comments of Foster and Vince Williams feeling that Burfict's action's were intentional. Then you have Vince saying he would paint Burfict wet if he seen him on the street.

Jones commented about Mitchell being fake tough after being hit by him, with Mitchell countering saying he is lucky it wasn't years ago when he was heavier, or it would have been worse. Vince as of this week is salivating for this game as well as Foster.

Jones claimed he expects bloodshed from both sides. Mitchell shot back at Jones stating that the Steeler's won't be the ones bleeding. It seems to me that this will be way more than chippy. I have concerns of targeting against our players with the comments that are being made.

It doesn't make me feel too easy with the fact that they've already taken Bell out twice. Also when it comes to our guys, I hope they're not out to target and injure any of their players as well. It's just not good sportsmanship. I hope we have focus and not do things to draw penalties by being out of control.

I'm hoping for a clean physical win by the Steelers. I'm also kind of bothered with the fact of how well Cincy knows us already being in the same division. With that said, if we win and make the postseason, how much of our hand do we show them?

It is a very high probability that we will face them in Cincy again if we make the postseason. Beating them there again in a very short period of time would be very difficult to do, and they will be sure to make adjustments if we beat them this Sunday.

I feel the same about Denver. If we win our regular season matchup, and were to make the postseason, the possibilities of seeing them again will also be very high. They will also make adjustments and the next time will be in Mile High!

What do you guys think? Are my concerns irrational?

SteelerFanInStl
12-10-2015, 04:42 PM
This rivalry is turning into the old Steelers/Ravens rivalry.

ETL
12-10-2015, 07:11 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if other body parts on Dalton become red as well after this game.

j-d-s
12-10-2015, 08:56 PM
Hey guys!

I don't need to mention how big this one is! We all know the tension after the first meeting with Burfict taking out Bell for the second straight meeting. The comments of Foster and Vince Williams feeling that Burfict's action's were intentional. Then you have Vince saying he would paint Burfict wet if he seen him on the street.

Jones commented about Mitchell being fake tough after being hit by him, with Mitchell countering saying he is lucky it wasn't years ago when he was heavier, or it would have been worse. Vince as of this week is salivating for this game as well as Foster.

Jones claimed he expects bloodshed from both sides. Mitchell shot back at Jones stating that the Steeler's won't be the ones bleeding. It seems to me that this will be way more than chippy. I have concerns of targeting against our players with the comments that are being made.

It doesn't make me feel too easy with the fact that they've already taken Bell out twice. Also when it comes to our guys, I hope they're not out to target and injure any of their players as well. It's just not good sportsmanship. I hope we have focus and not do things to draw penalties by being out of control.

I'm hoping for a clean physical win by the Steelers. I'm also kind of bothered with the fact of how well Cincy knows us already being in the same division. With that said, if we win and make the postseason, how much of our hand do we show them?

It is a very high probability that we will face them in Cincy again if we make the postseason. Beating them there again in a very short period of time would be very difficult to do, and they will be sure to make adjustments if we beat them this Sunday.

I feel the same about Denver. If we win our regular season matchup, and were to make the postseason, the possibilities of seeing them again will also be very high. They will also make adjustments and the next time will be in Mile High!

What do you guys think? Are my concerns irrational?

If we make it to the postseason and face them Bungles and then the Broncos with Peyton Manning, I like our chances. Both Dalton and Peyton have a long history of choking in the playoffs.

86WARD
12-10-2015, 09:42 PM
I don't think it's remotely close to the Ravens/Steelers rivalry. It's not close at all...

teegre
12-10-2015, 11:17 PM
@StillCurtains

I hear your concerns, but you have to get into the playoffs, before you can worry about what you do in the playoffs.

Secondly, the other teams can know what's coming... but, it won't matter; they can't stop this offense.

Psycho Ward 86
12-10-2015, 11:51 PM
No. I want this team to play with as much hate as that one time Willie Colon pancaked Burfict and kept going at it on the ground. Where is that GIF?!?!?

Steelman
12-11-2015, 12:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jogCb.gif

katmandu
12-11-2015, 12:04 AM
What do you guys think? Are my concerns irrational?One word....No.

I have lived here in SW Ohio since 1986 minus the 3 years I was stationed down in Alabama. There are way more Steeler fans here in SW Ohio than there are Bengal/Browns fans combined. NO JOKE.

I say that because the Bengal fan base just does not get "IT" and neither does their team. They have a lot to prove and yes, they can be very dangerous and beat us. However, they are NOT a seasoned team with a winning history. This does make them desperate to win and prove themselves. The don't know how to act like a Professional winning organization....... just yet.

They are not to be feared in anyway, shape or form. Just another roadblock and obstacle to overcome.

As soon as they lose and get knocked out of the playoffs, their "fans" WILL jump off the bandwagon just like they've done for decades. That is their MO and they will follow it to a T.

StillCurtains
12-11-2015, 12:04 AM
@StillCurtains

I hear your concerns, but you have to get into the playoffs, before you can worry about what you do in the playoffs.

Secondly, the other teams can know what's coming... but, it won't matter; they can't stop this offense.

Yeah I hear you, but that's why I was stating IF we make it. I do feel we're good enough to win it all, I just hope we can put it together.

katmandu
12-11-2015, 12:05 AM
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Steelman
12-11-2015, 12:21 AM
Hey guys!

I don't need to mention how big this one is! We all know the tension after the first meeting with Burfict taking out Bell for the second straight meeting. The comments of Foster and Vince Williams feeling that Burfict's action's were intentional. Then you have Vince saying he would paint Burfict wet if he seen him on the street.

Jones commented about Mitchell being fake tough after being hit by him, with Mitchell countering saying he is lucky it wasn't years ago when he was heavier, or it would have been worse. Vince as of this week is salivating for this game as well as Foster.

Jones claimed he expects bloodshed from both sides. Mitchell shot back at Jones stating that the Steeler's won't be the ones bleeding. It seems to me that this will be way more than chippy. I have concerns of targeting against our players with the comments that are being made.

It doesn't make me feel too easy with the fact that they've already taken Bell out twice. Also when it comes to our guys, I hope they're not out to target and injure any of their players as well. It's just not good sportsmanship. I hope we have focus and not do things to draw penalties by being out of control.

I'm hoping for a clean physical win by the Steelers. I'm also kind of bothered with the fact of how well Cincy knows us already being in the same division. With that said, if we win and make the postseason, how much of our hand do we show them?

It is a very high probability that we will face them in Cincy again if we make the postseason. Beating them there again in a very short period of time would be very difficult to do, and they will be sure to make adjustments if we beat them this Sunday.

I feel the same about Denver. If we win our regular season matchup, and were to make the postseason, the possibilities of seeing them again will also be very high. They will also make adjustments and the next time will be in Mile High!

What do you guys think? Are my concerns irrational?

Personally, I'd be OK with a couple of extra penalties if that means beating the shit out of Cincinnati.

I don't think we need to hold anything back. Our playoff run effectively started last week, so we have to go for the throat in every game from here on out. We did that against Indy, time to continue the carnage in Bungleland. I know the team's fired up and I'm excited about it. For all of the Tomlin bashing (some deservedly so) we do have one of the least penalized teams in the league, so I'm not worried about penalties.

With our offense, I don't think hiding plays or being worried about showing too many cards is a concern. The only concern there is if Haley and Co. gets too cute at times. But nobody wants to see our offense right now, regardless of how many times they've faced us this season.

Defensively, I've seen marked improvement in the ability to make adjustments game to game by Butler, though not necessarily during a game. If we had an amazing defense like in years past, yeah I could see your concern, but with this version we're just trying to limit damage on a weekly basis, no room for keeping cards in the hand.

stillers4me
12-11-2015, 05:25 AM
It's not the team that needs to worry, it's the fans. They just don't get it. This is the bar we've watched games at for many years and the only time there is any trouble is when Bengals fans come in on game day. Marty has had to call the police and they have had bomb threats called in. Every single time I've gone to PBS to see a game, we always see people being escorted out by stadium security....wearing Bengals gear. They even have 1-800-jerk line you can call to report somebody. Are there any other stadiums that have to do that?

Local Steelers bar to ban Bengals fan wearing gear, concerns over safety



CINCINNATI, OH (FOX19) - A local restaurant and bar, that’s also considered a Steelers game haven says it will not admit fans wearing Bengals gear for this upcoming game against Pittsburgh.
The Angiulli’s family is from Pennsylvania, and they are the owners of Martino’s on Vine. They say decision is because of safety issues.
In the past, the business tried to host the fans from the two teams in the establishment. On days the teams played each other, fights broke and the police had to be called. They say they want people to be safe.
“We have young kids in here. We have older folks in here. You have two gentleman fighting, you have to worry about the safety of everyone in here,” said manager Marty Angiulli.
The owners say they serve everybody and that their restaurant is a family style establishment.

http://www.fox19.com/story/30711596/local-steelers-bar-to-ban-bengals-fan-wearing-gear-concerns-over-safety?clienttype=generic

cold-hard-steel
12-11-2015, 10:45 AM
Damn man i live all but in the heart of The original Cleveland Browns fans and we argue not fight.Ravens suck!!! they know we know it.but we never fight. We do argue though.

Born2Steel
12-11-2015, 02:38 PM
Simple math says that if we don't want it to come down to tie breakers we have to go out there and win every last game now. Bengals or whoever. Every game from now til superbowl victory is a bloody rivalry game. Otherwise we watch the playoffs this season. This is the playoffs for us now.

Edman
12-11-2015, 03:08 PM
This rivalry is turning into the old Steelers/Ravens rivalry.

Lol. Not even close, dude.

The Bengals may have been good as of the past couple of years, but they are still relatively unproven. The Ravens have proved themselves and then some. Just because they are down this year and the Bengals are up this year doesn't make Steelers/Ravens obsolete.

The Ravens were not only a hateable team, but they were actually a pretty good organization from top to bottom. The Bengals don't have that mystique of success the Ravens do. I go into Ravens/Steelers games not knowing what to expect. I go into Bengals games confident, and even if we lose, I still don't consider the Bengals on par with Baltimore or Dallas in terms of hateability.

The Ravens have actually beaten the Steelers when it really mattered, won in the postseason, and won Super Bowl titles. They earned their respect. The Bengals have not. Win or Lose Sunday, the Bengals are still the Bengals.

Hell, the Browns give me more fear than the Bengals. Give credit to Browns fans, they are diehard, and I worry for the day they put it together finally.

BigNastyDefense
12-11-2015, 07:49 PM
I hope the Steelers aren't looking to dish out payback, the focus needs to be on winning.

But if we take out one of their key contributors during the win, I won't have any sympathy for them.

katmandu
12-11-2015, 10:02 PM
It's not the team that needs to worry, it's the fans. They just don't get it. This is the bar we've watched games at for many years and the only time there is any trouble is when Bengals fans come in on game day. Marty has had to call the police and they have had bomb threats called in. Every single time I've gone to PBS to see a game, we always see people being escorted out by stadium security....wearing Bengals gear. They even have 1-800-jerk line you can call to report somebody. Are there any other stadiums that have to do that?This is very true. Stillers4me lives in this area as well. Same shit I said above. Bengal fans are special kind of inbreeding. We don't call this OH-TUCKEY for nuthin! Lol !

BigNastyDefense
12-12-2015, 10:54 AM
Most Bengals fans are as trashy as they come.

Funny thing is, not too long ago they were about equal with the Browns. They seem to have forgotten that. Their fans act like they have some long history of winning and Super Bowl Championships when all they have is two Super Bowl losses to Joe Montana, and a bunch more playoff losses than wins.

When the Bengals are losers, their fans are nowhere to be seen. When they are winning consistently (unless it's the playoffs lol), you'd think the Bengals have won five straight Super Bowls.

ETL
12-13-2015, 04:25 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if other body parts on Dalton become red as well after this game.

Called it!

86WARD
12-13-2015, 04:32 PM
Called it!

Good call...

Injuries are finally catching up to the Bengals.

vader29
12-13-2015, 04:32 PM
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dduc996
12-13-2015, 06:14 PM
Until Ravens are competitive again I'd say the Bengals have become our biggest rivalry.

stillers4me
12-14-2015, 05:15 AM
Until Ravens are competitive again I'd say the Bengals have become our biggest rivalry.

Nope. All the "rivalry" nonsense comes entirely from the Cincinnati end. Their entire season is all about beating the Steelers. The hatred and the jealousy is of epic proportions from both the team and the fanbase. I wish I had a dollar for every time time I've hear "I don't care about any other game as long as we beat the Steelers". When the media talk about the rivalry between the Ravens and the Steelers, they talked about 2 teams built to rival each other. At least the Ravens walked the walk, the two teams had a mutual respect for each other and actually won something. All I hear in Cinci is this mythical rivalry between the Steelers and the Bengals when the Bengals have been nothing but the Steelers little bitches for years. The hatred the Bengals and the fans have is real, but the rivalry....not so much.

stillers4me
12-14-2015, 05:32 AM
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katmandu
12-14-2015, 10:21 AM
All the "rivalry" nonsense comes entirely from the Cincinnati end. Their entire season is all about beating the Steelers. The hatred and the jealousy is of epic proportions from both the team and the fanbase. I wish I had a dollar for every time time I've hear "I don't care about any other game as long as we beat the Steelers". When the media talk about the rivalry between the Ravens and the Steelers, they talked about 2 teams built to rival each other. At least the Ravens walked the walk, the two teams had a mutual respect for each other and actually won something. All I hear in Cinci is this mythical rivalry between the Steelers and the Bengals when the Bengals have been nothing but the Steelers little bitches for years. The hatred the Bengals and the fans have is real, but the rivalry....not so much.Again you hit the nail on the head about these Bandwagon Bengal fans.

I always say when our two teams meet that it's the Bengal's Superbowl when they play the Steelers!

They really do NOT care about going to the playoffs or beating any other team than the Steelers.

It really does show that they have never really been to the Big Dance before (except when they lost in 1988 or something way back...).

It's actually pretty pathetic interacting with some of these Bengal fans around here.

Edman
12-14-2015, 05:07 PM
Until Ravens are competitive again I'd say the Bengals have become our biggest rivalry.

Just like how the Bengals were the "biggest rivalry" in 2005. Please. The Bengals are a weak ass version of the Ravens. A Poor substitute. Because the Ravens happen to be down this year doesn't change that. You think with as big a "rivalry" as this, you would think the Bengals would match the Steelers with the same intensity, they didn't. The Bengals were only tough after the whistle, not during it.

Hating somebody isn't what makes a rivalry. It's team mentality. The Bengals can talk it, but they can't walk it. You don't lose 33-20 at home with a garbage time touchdown with the division title on the line against your "rival". Ravens-Steelers were battles that went down to the final minute. Teams pushing each other to the brink play after play.

I'm pretty sure Bills, Jets, and Dolphins fans despise New England. Doesn't make it a rivalry. Because year after year, their teams always play patsy to New England.

Even after Sunday, after all of their cheap shot shenanigans, I still don't hate the Bengals as much as I do the Ravens or the Patriots.

86WARD
12-14-2015, 05:51 PM
For the Steelers, the rivalry now goes Ravens, Browns and then...oh yeah, Bengals. This is very similar to how Eagles fans believe that the Cowboys/Eagles is a big rivalry...it is to Eagles fans, not so much to Cowboys fans...that rivalry in the NFC East is Cowboys/Redskins.

katmandu
12-14-2015, 06:31 PM
For the Steelers, the rivalry now goes Ravens, Browns and then...oh yeah, Bengals. I miss the days (mid/late 70s) with the original Cleveland Browns and the real Oakland Raiders. Now THOSE were the days of serious rivalries !

ALLD
12-14-2015, 06:55 PM
The Bengals are irrelevant.

Steelermania
12-15-2015, 01:57 PM
The rivalry with the Rats is hard hitting, and fierce, but there is tons of respect there. I love beating them, but I have tons of respect for Baltimore. You might notice that while the teams try to kill each other, it's rarely as chippy as the Bengals games are. That's because neither team is trying to prove themselves. They know what they are, and they both know the other side has major respect for them. The Rats are well run, and I expect for them to be back in the mix in a year or so.