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hawaiiansteeler
11-20-2015, 06:26 PM
Arthur Moats fined $8,681 for grabbing Johnny Manziel’s facemask
Posted by Josh Alper on November 20, 2015

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During the first half of last Sunday’s victory over the Browns, Steelers linebacker Arthur Moats was flagged for grabbing Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel’s facemask during a sack.

It was an ugly looking play as Manziel’s body was whipped down to the ground by Moats’s tugging at his helmet and the NFL decided that Moats’s action demanded more than just a flag in terms of discipline.

According to multiple reports, the league fined Moats $8,681 for the facemask, which he apologized to Manziel for on Twitter after the game. Manziel, who was unhurt, replied to say there were “no hard feelings.”

It’s not the biggest check that Moats will write this week. He donated $300,000 to his alma mater James Madison University during the week that the school says is the biggest donation to the school by an alumnus under the age of 30.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/20/arthur-moats-fined-8681-for-grabbing-johnny-manziels-facemask/

ALLD
11-20-2015, 06:29 PM
He looked like Linda Blair in the Exorcist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO9FD7zI7k0

salamander
11-20-2015, 06:39 PM
I'm surprised it wasn't more, to be honest.

86WARD
11-20-2015, 08:23 PM
I'm surprised it wasn't more, to be honest.

Same. Moats almost ripped Manziel's face off...gets fined $8000...Carson Palmer gets fines $11000 for making a lewd gesture to the Seahawks fans.

zulater
11-21-2015, 05:22 AM
Same. Moats almost ripped Manziel's face off...gets fined $8000...Carson Palmer gets fines $11000 for making a lewd gesture to the Seahawks fans.

Moats action was unintentional, it happened in the heat of the game. It was careless, but not premeditated. The guy was looking for a sack, not a 15 yard penalty. Plus Moats was contrite in the aftermath and doesn't have a history of bad hits. Therefore he got the league minimum fine for the type of offense that was committed.

I wont get into Carson Palmer's fine other than to say it's an apples to oranges comparison.

salamander
11-21-2015, 05:35 AM
Who doesn't want to make some sort of lewd gesture to the Seattle fans? :chuckle:

86WARD
11-21-2015, 05:51 AM
Moats action was unintentional, it happened in the heat of the game. It was careless, but not premeditated. The guy was looking for a sack, not a 15 yard penalty. Plus Moats was contrite in the aftermath and doesn't have a history of bad hits. Therefore he got the league minimum fine for the type of offense that was committed.

I wont get into Carson Palmer's fine other than to say it's an apples to oranges comparison.

But it's not really. A fine compared to a fine. One for a gesture...one that could have done serious damage to a human. You give Moats an excuse saying that it was during the heat of the game. You could say that Palmer's gesture was in the heat of the game. If indeed it was geared towards the Seattle fans and not his buddies in the stands. I'm not saying either shouldn't be fined, but "sticks and stones..."

Seriously hurting a human. Alleged premeditated gesture towards Seattle "fans". Bother during the heat of the game. Both fines.

I'll just agree to disagree.

tube517
11-21-2015, 07:53 AM
If it was Mitchell, he probably would have wanted to rip Johnny Walmart's head off.

Moats was pissed at himself for doing that. He knew it right after. But, Palmer's fine should have been less.

Now, if you really want to fine a celebratory "dance", Drew Stanton's sideline whatever that was, was horrible. :chuckle:

stillers4me
11-21-2015, 07:58 AM
Actually, I'm surprised that Carson Palmer did what he did. Love him or hate him, he always seemed more mature than that. It seems as out of character for Palmer as it would if Ben did that.

stillers4me
11-21-2015, 08:27 AM
How in the world does the league come up with these amounts? $8,681 not $8500 or $8750?

Craic
11-21-2015, 03:21 PM
How in the world does the league come up with these amounts? $8,681 not $8500 or $8750?
Don't know, but my guess is it probably started at a flat amount, and then increases by percentage through the years and also by number of incidents. So, maybe it started at $7000 or 7500 a few years ago, and increased by a few percentage points every year?

fansince'76
11-21-2015, 03:29 PM
How in the world does the league come up with these amounts? $8,681 not $8500 or $8750?

http://i1031.photobucket.com/albums/y376/traderivar/Various/monkey-darts.jpg (http://s1031.photobucket.com/user/traderivar/media/Various/monkey-darts.jpg.html)

Iron Steeler
11-21-2015, 06:27 PM
How in the world does the league come up with these amounts? $8,681 not $8500 or $8750?

hahaha i was going to say the same thing, What is this the price is right?

86WARD
11-21-2015, 07:45 PM
Cost of living raise on the fines? In 2008 Ryan Clark was fined $5000 for honoring Sean Taylor on his eye black. D. Williams was fined $5787 for supporting breast cancer awareness on his eye black. Cam Heyward - $5787 for same. Devon Still - $0 for same.