Revisiting Bell vs Lacy

[TeeTee]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000578330/article/eddie-lacy-i-dont-know-what-is-hindering-my-play

I didn't realize Lacy was having this bad of a season; he has been demoted to 2nd string. So, I am sure we will all conclude that
we made the better draft pick in Bell....however, at least Lacy is still available to play. As they say, if you ain't available to play
it doesn't matter how good you are when you are healthy.

All things being equal, yes, I'd much rather have Bell. But one more season where he misses major time....can't be very good when you aren't even dressing.

[steelreserve]

Considering our backup is doing better than Lacy as well, I don't really see any upside if we'd drafted him.

[86WARD]

Bell and Williams fit the Steelers system much better than Lacy would.

[slippy]

Feastmode!

[TeeTee]

Lacy just ate himself out of being productive. Bettis was one of the ONLY back in NFL history who could be productive at 260+ for any length of time.

Lacy wonders why he isn't productive - not rocket science dude - you are simply too fat. Look at Bell; he was 240 in college and dropped to 215 this season and it has made him a better player. He has zip, quickness and burst while still maintaining good power. Lacy should drop 20 lbs at least.

[86WARD]

How long did Okoye go? 5-6-7 years?

[TeeTee]

How long did Okoye go? 5-6-7 years?

He did, but like Natrone Means, he only had two seasons over 1,000 yards while Bus had 7.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OkoyCh00.htm

[SteelerFanInStl]

Lacy just ate himself out of being productive. Bettis was one of the ONLY back in NFL history who could be productive at 260+ for any length of time.

Lacy wonders why he isn't productive - not rocket science dude - you are simply too fat. Look at Bell; he was 240 in college and dropped to 215 this season and it has made him a better player. He has zip, quickness and burst while still maintaining good power. Lacy should drop 20 lbs at least.

Yep. Every time that I watch the Packers I look at Lacy and just laugh at his big gut. I'm not surprised that Starks is getting more playing time. He plays harder than Lacy and is in much better shape.

[TeeTee]

Yep. Every time that I watch the Packers I look at Lacy and just laugh at his big gut. I'm not surprised that Starks is getting more playing time. He plays harder than Lacy and is in much better shape.

Starks isn't just taking more playing time, he is now the starter. And, yes, he is the better back at this point. I got to question Mike McCarthy's coaching at this point. Do you think any of the top coaches would allow a player to get so overweight? As said earlier, Bettis played great at this weight, but NO ONE is the Bus. Lacy should be 20 lbs lighter.

[86WARD]

Being named starter in a RBBC is really not a big deal...

[hawaiiansteeler]

Eddie Lacy: I’m not hurt, I’m not overweight, I don’t know what it is

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 12, 2015

https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznpt y4nzi5ndzmowi1yzbizjdiywq3ote1ytljmzi5yjbk.jpeg?w= 250

Why is Packers running back Eddie Lacy playing so badly? Some people say his ankle is bothering him. Others say he’s overweight. Lacy says neither of those is the case.

Shortly after coach Mike McCarthy announced that James Starks has been promoted above Lacy on the depth chart, Lacy told reporters in Green Bay that he’s not sure why he’s struggling, but his ankle is fine and he’s not too heavy.

“I honestly don’t know what it is,” Lacy said, via Michael Cohen of the Journal Sentinel. “Definitely, I’m off to a different start. I’m not playing how I was the previous two years. Later on in the season, maybe it’ll pick back up. But as of right now, this is just the move that is going to be. This season [Starks] has definitely been the better player between the both of us. That’s just the move.”

Lacy has yet to record a 100-yard game this year, and in the last four games he has a grand total of 33 carries for just 78 yards, with three fumbles. He’s not complaining about the decision to demote him because he knows it’s the right move for the team.

to read rest of article:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/12/eddie-lacy-im-not-hurt-im-not-overweight-i-dont-know-what-it-is/

[Steel 36 Bus]

I called him fat ass lacy when he was a rookie. Coach Tomlin had a sit down with Leveon before the draft. and told him for him to be effective in the nfl he needed to lose weight. that is lacy's problem. plus I think he is shot bama overworked his ass there.

[TeeTee]

Being named starter in a RBBC is really not a big deal...

Not so much, but in this case, Lacy will get less and less touches. Not a good thing being that he is nearing the end of his contract. He says he isn't overweight? Really?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Eddie Lacy's stats tonight against the Lions:

5 carries for 4 yards and 1 reception for -3 yards...

[Galax Steeler]

They said he was benched due to practice woes!

[fansince'76]

Yep, shoulda drafted Lacy instead because at least he's still available to play. Never mind that he's a lazy, unmotivated lardass who has been completely ineffective all season and is basically stealing a paycheck at this point and that Bell actually WAS effective before that dumbass Cool Shades ran him into the ground and he got hurt again as a result. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know...

http://www.yourstrawman.com/Strawman2b.bmp

[tube517]

Bell is glass. Strawman poker shade 007 Bellicheat izdagreatestevah. :jerkit:

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[fansince'76]

Bell is glass. Strawman poker shade 007 Bellicheat izdagreatestevah. :jerkit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv3P-5DhkgQ

:chuckle:

[Steelermania]

Yep, shoulda drafted Lacy instead because at least he's still available to play. Never mind that he's a lazy, unmotivated lardass who has been completely ineffective all season and is basically stealing a paycheck at this point and that Bell actually WAS effective before that dumbass Cool Shades ran him into the ground and he got hurt again as a result. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I know...

http://www.yourstrawman.com/Strawman2b.bmp


Bell was hardly run into the ground this year. Just like last year, he was hurt on a pass play. It wasn't the type of injury that comes from being pounded.

[teegre]

Bell was hardly run into the ground this year. Just like last year, he was hurt on a pass play. It wasn't the type of injury that comes from being pounded.

They're being facetious... because, that's what Tee Tee averred happened.

[fansince'76]

Bell was hardly run into the ground this year. Just like last year, he was hurt on a pass play. It wasn't the type of injury that comes from being pounded.

You know that, and I know that. I've said more than once that both injuries Bell has sustained against the Bengals over the last year could have just as easily happened on Bell's first play from scrimmage as well as his 250th. As teegre pointed out, I was just being facetious.

The OP, however, doesn't know that. Or, more likely he does, but just wants to make the argument in order to bitch about Tomlin some more, which seems to be his fourth-favorite thing to do after accusing others of employing straw man arguments, posting YouTube fart videos and verbally fellating Bill Belichick.

[Rotorhead]

You know that, and I know that. I've said more than once that both injuries Bell has sustained against the Bengals over the last year could have just as easily happened on Bell's first play from scrimmage as well as his 250th. As teegre pointed out, I was just being facetious.

The OP, however, doesn't know that. Or, more likely he does, but just wants to make the argument in order to bitch about Tomlin some more, which seems to be his fourth-favorite thing to do after accusing others of employing straw man arguments, posting YouTube fart videos and verbally fellating Bill Belichick.

I have never read a better response, i heard the proverbial mike drop after that post, "BOOM" street cred! Bravo! Where's that standing ovation clip when you need it?

[smokin3000gt]

edit: wrong thread. do'h!

[hawaiiansteeler]

Report: Packers RB Eddie Lacy missed curfew Wednesday night

Green Bay Packers running back Eddie Lacy missed curfew the night before playing the Lions in Detroit.

BY SI WIRE
Posted: Fri Dec. 4, 2015

Green Bay Packers running backs Eddie Lacy and Alonzo Harris missed curfew on Wednesday night in Detroit before their game against the Lions, ESPN’s Rob Demovsky reports.

Despite two consecutive 100-yard games, Lacy saw limited action in Thursday’s comeback win, playing just 19 snaps and carrying the ball five times for four yards. He caught one pass for a loss of three yards in the second quarter, and went without a touch in the second half.

Harris was cut before kickoff.

Coach Mike McCarty called Lacy’s demotion “an internal football decision that was made,” and didn’t rule out the possibility that the move could have been disciplinary.

“Could be. But those things we don’t discuss in here anyway,” he said. “It’s something that we handled internally, and that was the outcome.”

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/12/04/green-bay-packers-eddie-lacy-missed-curfew-detroit-lions

[zulater]

If Bell never plays another down (God forbid) he was still the best pick the Steelers could have made.

[hawaiiansteeler]

If Bell never plays another down (God forbid) he was still the best pick the Steelers could have made.

I agree.

if only we had made a better pick in the first round though...:stirthepot:

[tube517]

I agree.

if only we had made a better pick in the first round though...:stirthepot:

"solid" as glass

[86WARD]

Giovanni Bernard, Theo RIddick, Spencer Ware CJ Anderson and Latavius Murray>>>> Le'Veon Bell and Eddie Lacy!!

In all seriousness though, that 2013 RB Class was pretty solid and has the potential to be one of the greatest RB classes of all-time.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Mike McCarthy tells Eddie Lacy to shape up or ship out

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 18, 2016

https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/505315220.jpg?w=250

In unusually blunt terms, Packers coach Mike McCarthy acknowledged today what has long been suspected: Eddie Lacy isn’t in good enough shape.

McCarthy said Lacy is overweight, and that if he doesn’t lose weight this offseason, he’s not going to be on the field for the Packers in the fall.

“Eddie’s got a lot of work to do,” McCarthy said. “I’m stating the obvious. His offseason last year was not what it should be and he never recovered from it. He cannot play at the weight he did this year.”

Although Lacy showed flashes of his immense talent as a runner — including a career-long 61-yard run in Saturday’s loss to the Cardinals — overall Lacy was a huge disappointment this season. He finished the year with career lows in carries, yards, touchdowns, catches and receiving yards.

McCarthy sounds like he’s fed up with Lacy, and unwilling to tolerate him showing up to camp in anything other than peak condition.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/18/mike-mccarthy-tells-eddie-lacy-to-shape-up-or-ship-out/

[fansince'76]

Considering McCarthy's uh, "ample" physique, kind of a hard directive to take seriously from a player's perspective...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/632/106/90333141_display_image.jpg?1294877259

[Hawkman]

Considering McCarthy's uh, "ample" physique, kind of a hard directive to take seriously from a player's perspective...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/632/106/90333141_display_image.jpg?1294877259

:rofl2:

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Maybe they should train together.

[smokin3000gt]

Considering McCarthy's uh, "ample" physique, kind of a hard directive to take seriously from a player's perspective...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/632/106/90333141_display_image.jpg?1294877259

He doesn't get paid to look good.. :grin:

[EzraTank]

Bell needs to stay healthy though. This makes two straight playoff years when we had a great shot to go deep only to lose him.

[fansince'76]

Bell needs to stay healthy though. This makes two straight playoff years when we had a great shot to go deep only to lose him.

Would help if the members of a certain team would stop hitting him in the knees...

[Count Steeler]

Would help if the members of a certain team would stop hitting him in the knees...

Sit him against Cincy. Put in the next guys.

[silver & black]

Giovanni Bernard, Theo RIddick, Spencer Ware CJ Anderson and Latavius Murray>>>> Le'Veon Bell and Eddie Lacy!!

In all seriousness though, that 2013 RB Class was pretty solid and has the potential to be one of the greatest RB classes of all-time.

I'm not all that happy with him. He runs scared.

[vader29]

http://i65.tinypic.com/15nvic3.jpg

[smokin3000gt]

http://i65.tinypic.com/15nvic3.jpg

Wow... I hadn't paid him much attention but I had no idea he was/is that out of shape!!

[zulater]

Considering McCarthy's uh, "ample" physique, kind of a hard directive to take seriously from a player's perspective...

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/632/106/90333141_display_image.jpg?1294877259

If he were a "life coach" your point would be valid. But coaches are paid to coach and players are well payed to play. McCarthy's state of fitness doesn't preclude him in any way from performing his duties. Lacey's lack of fitness is absolutely detrimental in him playing to his capabilities.

If we were to apply this to ourselves, it's like when you tell your 15 year old they aren't allowed to drink as you down your beer. ( or glass of wine of cocktail) You're at a different station of life than they are.

[Hawkman]

If he were a "life coach" your point would be valid. But coaches are paid to coach and players are well payed to play. McCarthy's state of fitness doesn't preclude him in any way from performing his duties. Lacey's lack of fitness is absolutely detrimental in him playing to his capabilities.

If we were to apply this to ourselves, it's like when you tell your 15 year old they aren't allowed to drink as you down your beer. ( or glass of wine of cocktail) You're at a different station of life than they are.

So......how freaking long are you two going to pick at each other? Seriously? I thought the MaCarthy thing was in fun, because he has grown a bit recently, but here we go again, another thread to jump on each other. Get a beer together and solve the world's problems and maybe stop being pissy.

[zulater]

So......how freaking long are you two going to pick at each other? Seriously? I thought the MaCarthy thing was in fun, because he has grown a bit recently, but here we go again, another thread to jump on each other. Get a beer together and solve the world's problems and maybe stop being pissy.

Gary and I have no ongoing issues. I was just making a point in regards to a particular post. Id tell you to butt out, but there's nothing to butt out of. :coffee:

[Hawkman]

Gary and I have no ongoing issues. I was just making a point in regards to a particular post. Id tell you to butt out, but there's nothing to butt out of. :coffee:
Couple of pages of the Tomlin/Haley issue.... But I will butt out, but this is an open forum. You two got a little nasty the other day.

[zulater]

Couple of pages of the Tomlin/Haley issue.... But I will butt out, but this is an open forum. You two got a little nasty the other day.

We agree on more things than we disagree on.

[fansince'76]

If he were a "life coach" your point would be valid. But coaches are paid to coach and players are well payed to play. McCarthy's state of fitness doesn't preclude him in any way from performing his duties. Lacey's lack of fitness is absolutely detrimental in him playing to his capabilities.

If we were to apply this to ourselves, it's like when you tell your 15 year old they aren't allowed to drink as you down your beer. ( or glass of wine of cocktail) You're at a different station of life than they are.

I meant it as more of a joke than anything. :chuckle:

[zulater]

I meant it as more of a joke than anything. :chuckle:

Yeah that probably shouldn't have evaded me. :lol:

But you know when I thought about it a bit more it occurred to me that I couldn't think of a single great fat coach off the top of my head? :heh:

So maybe even joking you were right? In order to instill discipline it might not be a bad idea to have some of your own.

[Hawkman]

Yeah that probably shouldn't have evaded me. :lol:

But you know when I thought about it a bit more it occurred to me that I couldn't think of a single great fat coach off the top of my head? :heh:

So maybe even joking you were right? In order to instill discipline it might not be a bad idea to have some of your own.

Love has been restored!!:chuckle:

[Mojouw]

Whole thing goes to show how much the NFL has changed in the past 10-15 years. There was a time where Eddie Lacy's new "physique" would not have looked out of place among the top RBs in the league. Now, not so much.

[zulater]

Whole thing goes to show how much the NFL has changed in the past 10-15 years. There was a time where Eddie Lacy's new "physique" would not have looked out of place among the top RBs in the league. Now, not so much.

It depends on the player. I think an in his prime Bettis would still be a great back as big as he was in his prime. Ironhead Heyward, Christian Okoye(spelling?) same thing. Lacy just wasn't meant to carry that weight.

[Mojouw]

It depends on the player. I think an in his prime Bettis would still be a great back as big as he was in his prime. Ironhead Heyward, Christian Okoye(spelling?) same thing. Lacy just wasn't meant to carry that weight.

I don't know about that. Bettis, maybe - dude is a HOF'er. But the others, I doubt it. I just don't think that in the current warp speed ahead NFL, there really is a place for a 265 pound back. Watching Lacy play this year, he was just a step slow to the hole and had no "burst" in the open field. But he could really move the pile and it often took more than one defender to take him down. But it still looked like he was stuck in mud most of the time.

I guess what I am trying to say is that 20 years ago, this year's Lacy (whether he is meant to carry the weight or not) would have had a place. Now, not so much. Even Bell slimmed down after his rookie year. Speed and elusiveness is the name of the game these days.

[tube517]

http://i65.tinypic.com/15nvic3.jpg
Feastmode

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