Cut Scooby

[smokin3000gt]

This guy is absolutely terrible.

[lipps83]

Yes, but who do you bring in?

[Craic]

Yes, but who do you bring in?

An extra wide receiver. It'd help the team more than Scooby

[dislocatedday]

You will get no argument from me. I'm guessing he has no confidence in himself, his teammates have no confidence in him, and the coaches also probably have no confidence in him.

[zoneblitzerII]

I would cut his leg off. He's fucking putrid and done.

[JayC]

he must be cut. bring in some kickers over the weekend.

[Steelman]

What's the return policy in Jacksonville? Dri Archer had a nice run back, maybe they'll take him and Scooby?

[86WARD]

+1

[polamalubeast]

Too late....

[SteelMayhem72]

Since we dont play for another week and a half id say at least bring some kickers in...hell if ben didnt have a bum knee id let him kick...lol

[SteelMayhem72]

Ben=qb/k, bet he could do it

[teegre]

Go for 2 after every TD.

4th down outside of the 35: punt.
4th down inside of the 35: go for it.

[fansince'76]

Go for 2 after every TD.

4th down outside of the 35: punt.
4th down inside of the 35: go for it.

With Vick? Uh-uh. The rest is spot-on, however.

Unfortunately, along with giving up a draft pick for the schlub, they're also giving him something like $3.5 million this season. Not sure they really can cut him.

[teegre]

With Vick? Uh-uh. The rest is spot-on, however.

Unfortunately, along with giving up a draft pick for the schlub, they're also giving him something like $3.5 million this season. Not sure they really can cut him.

Bell on every 2-point conversion. :wink02:

Ugh :doh:

[steelreserve]

I didn't get to watch the game until about 2 hours late, but if they didn't cut this guy during the post-game press conference, they're seriously fucked up.

Of all the things that could've happened against the Ravens, we don't get burned by a 40-yard moonball pass interference, we don't get killed by the lumbering white tight end, but we lose the game because of the fucking kicker. That guy can go straight to hell.

[ALLD]

Peg leg needs a kick in the butt. He is burnt toast.

[j-d-s]

I thought after week one we had to cut Scobee. Would've liked to sign Dustin Hopkins in the first place. Now we can bring about everyone in as kicker, Kai Forbath, Connor Barth, Jay Feely, Randy Bullock are out there and they can't possibly be worse than Mr. Scooby.

[86WARD]

With Vick? Uh-uh. The rest is spot-on, however.

Unfortunately, along with giving up a draft pick for the schlub, they're also giving him something like $3.5 million this season. Not sure they really can cut him.

Jacksonville really got it over on the Steelers...lol.

[Steelermania]

We might be 4-0 with a decent kicker.

[Drazo85]

Is this guy still on the roster???

[katmandu]

Look what SnoopDog has to say to Scooby.

https://instagram.com/p/8UeP5WP9Gq/

[zulater]

I don't know if they can afford to cut him? They're responsible for paying 3 kickers as it is. They have five million already tied up in a position most teams don't invest a million in. Plus not much out there. Maybe someone is out there that's better than Scobbee has been. But there's still a chance this guy can turn things around. If he does he has aproven pedigree as a top kicker. Plus the depth of his kickoffs have really helped turn a weakness into a strength.

So this is what I do if possible. I audition kickers and put the winner on the practice squad. Then I tell Scobee he's week to week. He has to start making fg's or else it's over. But I don't pull the plug just yet.

[Steelman]

Josh Scobee, Shaun Suisham and Garrett Hartley cost the Steelers a shade over $5M against the cap in 2015, the highest cap hit for kickers of any team this season. The team's converted just 65 percent of possible kicking points this season, ranking 30th in the NFL.

Just crazy.

[Rotorhead]

I don't know if they can afford to cut him? They're responsible for paying 3 kickers as it is. They have five million already tied up in a position most teams don't invest a million in. Plus not much out there. Maybe someone is out there that's better than Scobbee has been. But there's still a chance this guy can turn things around. If he does he has aproven pedigree as a top kicker. Plus the depth of his kickoffs have really helped turn a weakness into a strength.

So this is what I do if possible. I audition kickers and put the winner on the practice squad. Then I tell Scobee he's week to week. He has to start making fg's or else it's over. But I don't pull the plug just yet.

You are joking right? You want to cut Vick (who did exactly what he needed to do for us, not lose the game) but keep the guy responsible for both our losses? Unbelievable! Look, Vick is not a starting QB in the league, we needed him to take care of the ball and be efficient to win this game (which he did), we needed everyone else step up their game and help our BACKUP QB win. What happens? Scobee misses 2 FG's (50% would have won the game). Brown drops a TD that hits him in his hands (again would have won the game). The coaches lose their minds and run Vick to the SHORT side of the field on 4th and 2 (which a 1st down would have won the game). Cut Scobee and let the rest of the team know they lost this game along with the coaching in the last 2m + OT. I don't care what it will cost to sign another kicker, Scobee is absolutely worthless and if he is still on this team after today I have lost total confidence in the management of this team.

[zulater]

You are joking right? You want to cut Vick (who did exactly what he needed to do for us, not lose the game) but keep the guy responsible for both our losses? Unbelievable! Look, Vick is not a starting QB in the league, we needed him to take care of the ball and be efficient to win this game (which he did), we needed everyone else step up their game and help our BACKUP QB win. What happens? Scobee misses 2 FG's (50% would have won the game). Brown drops a TD that hits him in his hands (again would have won the game). The coaches lose their minds and run Vick to the SHORT side of the field on 4th and 2 (which a 1st down would have won the game). Cut Scobee and let the rest of the team know they lost this game along with the coaching in the last 2m + OT. I don't care what it will cost to sign another kicker, Scobee is absolutely worthless and if he is still on this team after today I have lost total confidence in the management of this team.

So then you'll be paying 4 placekickers for the season with no guarantee you improved the position. And if it turns out you sign a guy who can't get a kickoff into the end zone you could also take a major step back in that area.

So am I happy with Scobee? Hell no. I want to throw him in the Allegheny with bowling balls tied to his kicking leg. But the fact of the matter is they might end up being forced to keep him and hope for the best. Because the option of paying 4 kickers for the season and the position still being in a state of flux doesn't exactly appeal to me either.

Therefore I wont be surprised nor will I be upset if they keep Josh and give him one last chance to turn his season around. Now of course if they do cut him I can't afgue with that either.

I think at the moment it's more likely they keep him than cut him. But if so it will be on a very short leash.

In the end neither of our opinions matter though. They're the ones that have to figure it out. And right now there is no great answer. Keeping him or cutting him both come with great risk.

[katmandu]

https://youtu.be/1f1v66jr3Lw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f1v66jr3Lw&feature=youtu.be

[steelreserve]

Simple. Just cut him and refuse to pay him. Or put him on the Inactive/Killed list.

[Merchant]

I don't know, I'm very conflicted on this situation.

Remember when we all wanted to cut Suisham? And he was solid for us the next season and going forward.

Remember when Mason Crosby had that one atrocious season? And he was solid for the Packers the next season and going forward.

This could be Scobee's one stinker year.

[86WARD]

There's plenty of cap space.

[ALLD]

He should not receive his game check. We said it here that the Steelers should have picked up the K from Denver who wasn't signed.

[steelerdude15]

He needs to go.

[Shoes]

With Vick? Uh-uh. The rest is spot-on, however.

Unfortunately, along with giving up a draft pick for the schlub, they're also giving him something like $3.5 million this season. Not sure they really can cut him.

And I don't think they will. If I remember correctly, Suisham had a rough going at it in the beginning and many called for his head also.

[86WARD]

And I don't think they will. If I remember correctly, Suisham had a rough going at it in the beginning and many called for his head also.

$uisham definitely had a rough start...not sure it was this rough though...

[tube517]

Suisham was 14 of 15 in his first year in Pittsburgh.

Scooby sux

[Count Steeler]

This is the least of my concerns. We did not lose because of Scobee. We lost because we did not play to win.

The game plan was atrocious. Again, not taking advantage of another team's weaknesses. Folks, we were up 20-7, early in the 3rd quarter. This was not a field goal game. This was a rout in the making. Predictably, the defense played prevent on the very next series and gave up an easy TD. The offense absolutely turtled and went backwards. Baltimore was not playing that good, we were piss poor.

To put Scobee in the crosshairs of our anger is a mistake. Turn the sights to the sidelines. Vick is not a rookie QB. That was a disgusting display by the no. 1 offense in the league, even without Ben.

I am not a football genius by any means, but it was obvious that Brown should have been on the right side of Vick all night. That is Vick's strong side. Something that simple should have been in the game plan.

[steelreserve]

As far as I know, players cut mid-season only count against the salary cap for the portion of games they have already played, unless their contracts are guaranteed. It depends on how much we "restructured" (don't you love that?) when we re-did his contract as he first got here.

I don't really care how much money he's making. Do we want a guy on the field who will cost us games? No, we don't, whether he's making $10 million or the league minimum. A position player would go to the bench (see Allen, C.) but since there is no bench for the kicker, get rid of his sorry ass.

[SteelMayhem72]

Forbath is scheduled to come him

[StillCurtains]

This is just TERRIBLE!

At this point, I feel that there is no other option than to let him go! I know the problem is that we lose a draft pick because of it, but this guy potentially cost us 2 games! We truly can't afford for him to cost us more, especially with Ben out!

The other problem is that who do we pick up? The front office TRULY is not to blame for this one! We lose Suisham, pick up Hartley then lose him, and give up a draft pick for Scobee who was actually a decent kicker! Talk about bad luck! I thought what the front office did was a good move. What else were they supposed to do?

Kickers are hard to come by, and now I feel somehow some way, we are going to have to find another one because we just can't afford to watch this guy jeopardize games for us.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I don't know. Scobee has a very strong leg and he's been a very good kicker for a decade for the Jags. He did only connect on 77% of his kicks last year though.

It just seems to me that his is some type of mental thing that we should be able to straighten out.

I'm definitely torn on this one.

[hawaiiansteeler]

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[86WARD]

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[hawaiiansteeler]

guess we wasted that 6th round draft choice for next year.

but hey, it's not like 6th round selections ever work out anyway...

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[Mojouw]

Our long national nightmare is over.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Our long national nightmare is over.

it may have just started.

there's a reason Boswell was available...

[tube517]

[QUOTE=hawaiiansteeler;508513]guess we wasted that 6th round draft choice for next year.

but hey, it's not like 6th round selections ever work out anyway...


Eh....you're overreacting....


http://www.kevinsavagecards.com/ItemImages/000054/171_54604a_lg.jpeg :heh:

[stillers4me]

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[fansince'76]

He should not receive his game check. We said it here that the Steelers should have picked up the K from Denver who wasn't signed.

Tampa Bay signed Barth almost as soon as Denver released him.

[ALLD]

Tampa Bay signed Barth almost as soon as Denver released him.
Given the choice I am sure he would have went to the Steelers instead.

[zulater]

Obviously the possibility exists that we went from bad to worse. Also our kickoffs could suffer significantly. Scobee, as bad as he was on fg's was pretty damn strong on kickoffs. Nothing's worse than kicking a fg then having a crappy kick off result in your opponent starting possession within a couple first downs of scoring territory.

Me personally I would have given Scobee another game to get out of it. But I can also understand why the move was made and I can't really condemn them.There were no sure answers on this one. You just got to hope this one works out.

[hawaiiansteeler]

guess we wasted that 6th round draft choice for next year.

but hey, it's not like 6th round selections ever work out anyway...

Eh....you're overreacting....

http://www.kevinsavagecards.com/ItemImages/000054/171_54604a_lg.jpeg :heh:

Tunch Ilkin and Chris Fuamatu-Maafala are other 6th rounders that come to mind, and Matt Bahr if we're sticking to the kickers theme...

[86WARD]

I would've kept Scobee and just taken his inaccuracies into consideration...

[Moose]

Missed tackles were a BIG problem ! Pathetic.

[86WARD]

http://www.totalprosports.com/2015/10/02/josh-scobee-just-got-an-update-on-madden-video/

[Bluecoat96]

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/03/04778f2e43084197f2d7cb18e12d0cf5.jpg

[Steeldude]

I would have kept Scobee.

Why not score TDs instead of relying on 40+ yard FGs into the wind? Or least get a little closer.

[86WARD]

I would have kept Scobee.

Why not score TDs instead of relying on 40+ yard FGs into the wind? Or least get a little closer.

Yes.

[Count Steeler]

I didn't come away from the game thinking Scobee should be cut. 2 tough FGs into the wind into the bad end of Heinz. Scapegoat.

[86WARD]

I didn't come away from the game thinking Scobee should be cut. 2 tough FGs into the wind into the bad end of Heinz. Scapegoat.

Feel the same...deflect the poor coaching decisions to Scobee.

[polamalubeast]

I didn't come away from the game thinking Scobee should be cut. 2 tough FGs into the wind into the bad end of Heinz. Scapegoat.


I disagree

Justin Tucker had no problem and Scobee missed 5 kick in 4 games since the beginning of the season.It was time for a change.

For me, the kick lower of 50 yards must be automatic in the NFL today.

[Count Steeler]

I disagree

Justin Tucker had no problem and Scobee missed 5 kick in 4 games since the beginning of the season.It was time for a change.

For me, the kick lower of 50 yards must be automatic in the NFL today.

Tucker kicked to the opposite end. With the wind. Big difference in Heinz.

[86WARD]

VERY big difference. I feel like this will come back to haunt them.

[SteelerFanInStl]

Tucker is also one of the best kickers in the NFL and has experience kicking at Heinz.

[Shoes]

I disagree

Justin Tucker had no problem and Scobee missed 5 kick in 4 games since the beginning of the season.It was time for a change.

For me, the kick lower of 50 yards must be automatic in the NFL today.

The change is you lose 2.5 mil and a draft pick and now have a kicker with a weaker leg and some rare heart condition.

[katmandu]

I didn't come away from the game thinking Scobee should be cut. 2 tough FGs into the wind into the bad end of Heinz. Scapegoat.Perhaps the Steeler's should have spent $2.5 Million on a glass wall on the open end of Heinz to make kicking field goals not such a damn challenge.