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TD's & Beer
08-31-2015, 02:48 PM
Kevin Colbert on Bryant: "We are disappointed in Martavis’ actions that has led to his four-game suspension..."

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/08/nfl-upholds-martavis-bryant-four-game-suspension/

fansince'76
08-31-2015, 03:28 PM
Take it to federal court, then. Seems he has more than a fair-to-middling chance of getting it tossed there.

TD's & Beer
08-31-2015, 03:37 PM
Well at least he'll be healthy when he comes back, there's that.

Maybe i should pick up Wheaton in my draft

86WARD
08-31-2015, 03:39 PM
Damn...

tube517
08-31-2015, 03:40 PM
Well at least he'll be healthy when he comes back, there's that.

Maybe i should pick up Wheaton in my draft

That's what people did at my job.

Craic
08-31-2015, 04:45 PM
It seemed pretty cut and dry, and the response from the Steelers kind of cements it. Bryant screwed up, and got punished right down the line of what the league/PA has agreed to. Not sure why he'd even protest it.

zulater
08-31-2015, 05:04 PM
So talented, but such an idiot. And please don't compare him to LeVeon. Because it's not even close. LeVeon didn't test positive in a league mandated drug test as Martavis has done multiple times in just over a year as an NFL player. This moron has a real drug problem. This is Josh Gibson all over. He will probably test positive again, he will likely smoke himself out of the league within 24 months.Sorry but those who claim weed isn't addictive. Bullshit. Depends on the person obviously. Some people will throw away a lucrative career because reefer is impossible to give up for them

. http://articles.philly.com/2001-04-05/sports/25330303_1_training-camp-eagles-marijuana

86WARD
08-31-2015, 06:06 PM
So talented, but such an idiot. And please don't compare him to LeVeon. Because it's not even close. LeVeon didn't test positive in a league mandated drug test as Martavis has done multiple times in just over a year as an NFL player. This moron has a real drug problem. This is Josh Gibson all over. He will probably test positive again, he will likely smoke himself out of the league within 24 months.Sorry but those who claim weed isn't addictive. Bullshit. Depends on the person obviously. Some people will throw away a lucrative career because reefer is impossible to give up for them

. http://articles.philly.com/2001-04-05/sports/25330303_1_training-camp-eagles-marijuana

Josh Gordon?

zulater
08-31-2015, 06:13 PM
Josh Gordon?

Yeah. A couple beers in. Shooting from the hip. :doh: Anyway you know what I mean. The fear is valid.

86WARD
08-31-2015, 07:34 PM
Very valid and very heading that direction...

Moose
08-31-2015, 08:05 PM
Shame .... wasted talent !

B&GFever
08-31-2015, 08:10 PM
10 meaningful games to date played ..

10 game checks fined and 4 game suspended ..

not exactly the path you hope for .

a lesson Learned would be priceless ( lets hope )

katmandu
08-31-2015, 08:36 PM
Kevin Colbert on Bryant: "We are disappointed in Martavis’ actions that has led to his four-game suspension..."

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/08/nfl-upholds-martavis-bryant-four-game-suspension/I think he should be forced to run a gaunlet of Steeler fans so we can punch him face for doing something so stupid.

katmandu
08-31-2015, 08:47 PM
Sorry but those who claim weed isn't addictive. Bullshit. Depends on the person obviously. Some people will throw away a lucrative career because reefer is impossible to give up for them

. http://articles.philly.com/2001-04-05/sports/25330303_1_training-camp-eagles-marijuanaExactly.

Today's weed is 10x more potent than it was in the 1980s.

Do whatever the hell you want, but if it's illegal in you job.... which BTW....is to play a kid's game and make 10's of millions of dollars doing it, couldn't you at least make a 1/2 ass'd effort to admit and take care of you drug problem...... LIKE A REAL MAN ?

Just flat out SELFISH. Terribly immature. What a shame.

steelreserve
08-31-2015, 09:04 PM
I've never known anyone who was addicted to weed.

I have known plenty of people who were so used to smoking it that they could not even imagine why you would go without it.

It's a mentality, a whole "weed culture" mindset. But it's not like quitting cigarettes. I've quit both, and cigarettes were tougher by far. Weed, one day you just go "well, I don't want to be smoking this all the time, this is dumb," and that's pretty much it.

katmandu
08-31-2015, 09:11 PM
It's a mentality, a whole "weed culture" mindset. But it's not like quitting cigarettes. I've quit both, and cigarettes were tougher by far. Weed, one day you just go "well, I don't want to be smoking this all the time, this is dumb," and that's pretty much it.Ok, so Bryant isn't addicted to weed.

That means he's got a very, very serious Narcissitic personality disorder to the degree that he's willing to sacrifice everything to smoke his weed.

Line up the gauntlet so we can all punch this punk in the face !

j-d-s
08-31-2015, 09:47 PM
They should legalize weed already. Don't get why it is illegal anyway, alcohol and tobacco are way more dangerous.

On the other hand, what would happen if a Broncos player (while not in another state) smokes weed? I mean, it's legal there...

B&GFever
08-31-2015, 09:52 PM
They should legalize weed already. Don't get why it is illegal anyway, alcohol and tobacco are way more dangerous.

On the other hand, what would happen if a Broncos player (while not in another state) smokes weed? I mean, it's legal there...


state laws have nothing to do with cba agreements and league policy .. so would be under same rules as someone from any other team ..

steelreserve
08-31-2015, 09:56 PM
:legalweed::business:

I knew those were there for a reason ...

hawaiiansteeler
08-31-2015, 09:57 PM
I think he should be forced to run a gaunlet of Steeler fans so we can punch him face for doing something so stupid.

if the Steelers really wanted to punish Bryant, they would just force him to watch our defensive game tape against the Bills over and over again...

Count Steeler
08-31-2015, 10:07 PM
if the Steelers really wanted to punish Bryant, they would just force him to watch our defensive game tape against the Bills over and over again...

But that might drive him to drink.

j-d-s
08-31-2015, 10:10 PM
if the Steelers really wanted to punish Bryant, they would just force him to watch our defensive game tape against the Bills over and over again...

That would be really cruel.

hawaiiansteeler
08-31-2015, 11:09 PM
But that might drive him to drink.

good point, it certainly drove me to drink...

fansince'76
08-31-2015, 11:12 PM
It's a mentality, a whole "weed culture" mindset. But it's not like quitting cigarettes. I've quit both, and cigarettes were tougher by far. Weed, one day you just go "well, I don't want to be smoking this all the time, this is dumb," and that's pretty much it.

Same experience here. Quitting cigarettes had me climbing the walls at one point. I also failed at it 3 times before I finally kicked them for good. I'll be smoke free 8 years this coming January 7th.

Quitting weed? Nothing to it. Oh, and paying $100+ a pop for a decent quarter towards the end there had a lot to do with it too. Lot better things to do with that money and I just didn't enjoy it enough anymore to justify the expense.

hawaiiansteeler
08-31-2015, 11:35 PM
That would be really cruel.

yeah, I think there's a constitutional amendment against something that cruel...

katmandu
09-01-2015, 12:14 AM
if the Steelers really wanted to punish Bryant, they would just force him to watch our defensive game tape against the Bills over and over again...We want the kid to learn his lesson, not get PTSD for God's sake ! LMAO !

katmandu
09-01-2015, 12:54 AM
I've never known anyone who was addicted to weed. Me neither.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6O-04EZSZdo/TTJgdFg_uAI/AAAAAAAABPQ/5njgBS1dblM/s1600/snoop-dogg-steelers-love.jpg

86WARD
09-01-2015, 05:56 AM
Same experience here. Quitting cigarettes had me climbing the walls at one point. I also failed at it 3 times before I finally kicked them for good. I'll be smoke free 8 years this coming January 7th.

Quitting weed? Nothing to it. Oh, and paying $100+ a pop for a decent quarter towards the end there had a lot to do with it too. Lot better things to do with that money and I just didn't enjoy it enough anymore to justify the expense.

Congratulations.

Steeldude
09-01-2015, 06:20 AM
So Bryant has failed multiple tests? I thought this was the first time he failed.

KillerBs
09-01-2015, 07:49 AM
I tell people... "I smoked cigarettes for 2 years... It took 14 years after that to quit."

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zulater
09-01-2015, 08:30 AM
Let me put it this way. If marijuana isn't addictive then all these guys who test positive must be really stupid. Because when the minimum wage in your career field is damn near 500k annually, and that's not enough incentive to put down the pipe for a month leading into the one and only time you'll get tested all year( if you pass), then these guys are all extremely stupid. Think about it. Most of us need at least 3 or 4 years to make that kind of cash. And you're telling me a person who has been forewarned about the approximate date of his one and only drug test (recreational) all year can't find the resolve to abstain is somehow not addicted?

I guess you can call me the idiot then. Because I really don't think these guys are that stupid. All addicts are masters of self deception. These guys fool themselves into believing they can smoke that one extra week, or that they have something that will clean their system up enough that they can smoke virtually right up until the test. The fact that smoking weed is that important to them that they'll jeopardize that lucrative of a payday tells me that weed is indeed addictive.

Just because it's not as addictive as tobacco or possibly alcohol doesn't mean it's not addictive to some people. Cause and effect here tells me these guys have a substance abuse problem. Period.

Steeldude
09-01-2015, 08:56 AM
Let me put it this way. If marijuana isn't addictive then all these guys who test positive must be really stupid. Because when the minimum wage in your career field is damn near 500k annually, and that's not enough incentive to put down the pipe for a month leading into the one and only time you'll get tested all year( if you pass), then these guys are all extremely stupid. Think about it. Most of us need at least 3 or 4 years to make that kind of cash. And you're telling me a person who has been forewarned about the approximate date of his one and only drug test (recreational) all year can't find the resolve to abstain is somehow not addicted?

I guess you can call me the idiot then. Because I really don't think these guys are that stupid. All addicts are masters of self deception. These guys fool themselves into believing they can smoke that one extra week, or that they have something that will clean their system up enough that they can smoke virtually right up until the test. The fact that smoking weed is that important to them that they'll jeopardize that lucrative of a payday tells me that weed is indeed addictive.

Just because it's not as addictive as tobacco or possibly alcohol doesn't mean it's not addictive to some people. Cause and effect here tells me these guys have a substance abuse problem. Period.

They are extreme morons. I can't be 100% sure, but each player who has tested positive for marijuana has been a complete imbecile. That being said, I do think marijuana is addictive, at least on some level.

tube517
09-01-2015, 09:55 AM
I am pissed about Bongtavious but is this really a surprise? Ryan Clark talked about it last year.

Make no mistake. Addictive or not, these knuckleheads who keep smoking pot/getting caught are dumb or just plain weak and have no will to quit and stay focused. For the Steelers, Marvel Smith is the only one who I can recall who made a pot smoking mistake and never got caught again.

katmandu
09-01-2015, 10:24 AM
Let me put it this way. If marijuana isn't addictive then all these guys who test positive must be really stupid. Because when the minimum wage in your career field is damn near 500k annually, and that's not enough incentive to put down the pipe for a month leading into the one and only time you'll get tested all year( if you pass), then these guys are all extremely stupid. Think about it. Most of us need at least 3 or 4 years to make that kind of cash. And you're telling me a person who has been forewarned about the approximate date of his one and only drug test (recreational) all year can't find the resolve to abstain is somehow not addicted? That's why I said they have a severe personality disorder such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

If marijuana is "supposedly" not addictive and these clowns have an IQ over 100 (to be able to understand and play at the NFL level) that leaves one and only one other choice. The have a mental health condition. Some type of severe personality Disorder like Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568


Symptoms

By Mayo Clinic Staff (http://www.mayoclinic.org/about-this-site/welcome)

Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders. Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and other areas of their life, such as work or school.

If you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may feel a sense of entitlement — and when you don't receive special treatment, you may become impatient or angry. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — for instance, the best car, athletic club or medical care.

At the same time, you have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation. To feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make yourself appear superior. Or you may feel depressed and moody because you fall short of perfection.

Many experts use the criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association, to diagnose mental conditions. This manual is also used by insurance companies to reimburse for treatment.
DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:



Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance (ie SELFISH)
Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
Exaggerating your achievements and talents
Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
Requiring constant admiration
Having a sense of entitlement
Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
Taking advantage of others to get what you want
Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
Being envious of others and believing others envy you
Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner

Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal and value yourself more than you value others.

steelreserve
09-01-2015, 10:53 AM
Let me put it this way. If marijuana isn't addictive then all these guys who test positive must be really stupid. Because when the minimum wage in your career field is damn near 500k annually, and that's not enough incentive to put down the pipe for a month leading into the one and only time you'll get tested all year( if you pass), then these guys are all extremely stupid. Think about it. Most of us need at least 3 or 4 years to make that kind of cash. And you're telling me a person who has been forewarned about the approximate date of his one and only drug test (recreational) all year can't find the resolve to abstain is somehow not addicted?

I guess you can call me the idiot then. Because I really don't think these guys are that stupid. All addicts are masters of self deception. These guys fool themselves into believing they can smoke that one extra week, or that they have something that will clean their system up enough that they can smoke virtually right up until the test. The fact that smoking weed is that important to them that they'll jeopardize that lucrative of a payday tells me that weed is indeed addictive.

Just because it's not as addictive as tobacco or possibly alcohol doesn't mean it's not addictive to some people. Cause and effect here tells me these guys have a substance abuse problem. Period.


I still don't think it's addictive. These guys really ARE that stupid about it.

With people who smoke weed that much, it's almost like a game - lol, I'm going to get high for ____ and they won't even notice. lol, I'm going to smoke before ____ and they can't even tell. It doesn't help that these guys all want to be like some rapper whose persona revolves around getting high whenever they want and doing whatever the fuck they want, like the 2000s version of Cheech and Chong with more cursing and guns.

The fact that it's illegal adds this us-against-them factor to it, like you're in this secret club and you're going to show everyone else you don't give a fuck by being stoned and getting away with it. The more brazen you are, the more weed cred you get. I know a guy who got a job in Honolulu with all living expenses paid and a free rental car, and he lost it within a month because lol, wouldn't it be funny if we hotboxed the rental car right before we took it back. They'll never know! I can picture clear as day the circle of weed friends: "Aw shit, lookit 'Tavis! He failed 3 drug tests and he hittin' it again! N*gga don't give a FUCK!" "Yeeaaaaa!"

... and THAT is weed culture in a nutshell for you.

TD's & Beer
09-01-2015, 10:59 AM
So Bryant has failed multiple tests? I thought this was the first time he failed.

The next hit is 10 games


NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Martavis Bryant's four-game suspension is for "multiple failed marijuana tests."

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/637038086917128192

Steeldude
09-01-2015, 03:38 PM
If marijuana is "supposedly" not addictive and these clowns have an IQ over 100 (to be able to understand and play at the NFL level) that leaves one and only one other choice.

It doesn't take an IQ of 100 to play in the NFL. The problem is players are really that dumb. I remember listening to a sports show interviewing a tutor for ex-NBA player Mugsy Bogues. The tutor stated Bogues didn't even know the alphabet.

86WARD
09-01-2015, 05:06 PM
So Bryant has failed multiple tests? I thought this was the first time he failed.

I think I read it was 4 tests.