Contract talks between Wilson, Seahawks to end at start of camp

[polamalubeast]

The lengthy, convoluted contract negotiations between the Seahawks and quarterback Russell Wilson appear to have a finish line. When Wilson steps on the field for his team's 2015 training camp on time and without a holdout, though neither party has come out and said it, talks will be done. The Super Bowl-winning quarterback will concentrate on football, his teammates, his play, but not his contract.

But will the window of opportunity for an extension close for good when camp begins?

According to people who have worked with agent Mark Rodgers, his history with high-profile, big-money deals shows that to be the case. If Rodgers continues to do business the same way he always has while representing baseball players, each day closer to free agency means decreased likelihood of a deal before Wilson is free (after two franchise tags in 2016 and 2017).

The two sides have been talking about an extension since the Super Bowl ended. Wilson surely hopes to be the game's highest-paid player (which will last until Andrew Luck does his deal), while the Seahawks want to reward him for his efforts but also retain their ability to keep their best players.


It's not that Wilson wants to hit free agency, according to a source who has spoken with him. It's that he wants to be paid as if he did. Meanwhile, thoughts of a fully guaranteed contract have not left his mind, especially with an agent who regularly negotiates such deals with baseball players.

As for the negotiations, the two sides are not close. But talks will ramp up as camp gets closer. The Seahawks report to training camp on July 30 and have their first practice on the 31st.



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[fansince'76]

Break that bank! Break that bank!

[86WARD]

Oh they will...lol.

[polamalubeast]

Russell Wilson wants to be paid like a free agent now


The news that talks between the Seahawks and quarterback Russell Wilson will end at training camp raises the stakes for the negotiations, since the inability to get a deal done before then means the Seahawks eventually will face a difficult array of choices in February. But Wilson apparently wants the Seahawks to face those choices now.

During a Friday visit to PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio, Ian Rapoport of NFL Media explained that Wilson wants to be paid as if he were a free agent.

This means that he wants market value for a position where healthy franchise quarterbacks never actually get to the market. It also means that Wilson wants to fast forward through the fourth year of his rookie year, shifting the risk of injury and ineffectiveness to the Seahawks even though he still has 16 regular-season games and possibly multiple postseason games to play.

Most importantly, if Wilson truly wants to be paid now as if he were a free agent, it means that a deal won’t be done before the start of training camp. Which means that a deal won’t be done until next year, at the earliest.

Which means that there remains a very good chance that Wilson won’t be playing for the Seahawks in 2016, with one possible outcome being use of the exclusive version of the franchise tag by the Seahawks, followed by a trade for something more or different than the two first-round picks that would be available under the non-exclusive franchise tag.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/18/russell-wilson-wants-to-be-paid-like-a-free-agent-now/

[polamalubeast]

Holmgren says Russell Wilson should take the offer



The Seahawks head to training camp soon. And if quarterback Russell Wilson doesn’t have a new contract when camp opens, there won’t be one until after the season ends.

Former Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren believes Wilson should get the deal done, swapping out his $1.5 million salary for 2015 with whatever the Seahawks are offering. Because they apparently are offering a lot.

“I know this, without going into the numbers,” Holmgren said on Friday’s edition of The Erik Kuselias Show on NBC Sports Radio. “I know the Seahawks have not lowballed Russell Wilson. I know that. Now, is it an Alex Rodriguez contract, which is twice as much as anybody’s ever made in their life? No. But they have not lowballed him. So I think it’s a fair deal, looking at it from an outsider looking in. I have no skin in the game but I just think — I think he should do this.”


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[86WARD]

Another blowhard.

[BnG_Hevn]

I hope the Hags stick to their guns and he ends up signing a HUGE contract with another team just to be exposed for the hack he is.

[86WARD]

I hope the Hags stick to their guns and he ends up signing a HUGE contract with another team just to be exposed for the hack he is.

I agree. It's really win win in my book. He either gets signed to a HUGE deal and rots in a place like Cleveland, Buffalo or Jacksonville or the Seahawks break the bank and can't re-sign any of their other players. That whole offense is over rated IMO. Led by He over rated Lynch and Wilson.

[fansince'76]

Russell Wilson has set a deadline for later this week to work out a long-term contract with the Seattle Seahawks, and now we have more evidence that Wilson is seeking to become the highest-paid player in the NFL.

Read more: Russell Wilson turned down $21 million a year from the Seahawks, and it suggests he wants a game-changing deal (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russell-wilson-turned-down-21-144655220.html)


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[fansince'76]

Wilson's deal will be worth more than Rodgers. Both in average and bonus dollars.

To the doubters, let's bet on it. If I'm wrong, I'll buy you tickets to the game of your choice. If you're wrong, you buy me tickets. Who's in?

Further, I'm going to enjoy bringing up this topic after the deal is signed and we've won yet another superbowl. I'm going to track down these critics and I'm going to post their words for them. LOL.

You can call me a homer but it doesn't change the fact that Wilson is one of extremely few quarterbacks to be in 2 Superbowls in his first 3 seasons. And he'll get paid accordingly. And will be first ballot hall of fame. I don't doubt it for a second. I'm actually laughing at the clueless noobs acting as if that's no big deal.

http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=111510&start=100#p1656633

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Steelman]

http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=111510&start=100#p1656633

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Tommy Boy's fans must have a found a new crush to get a hard on for. :toofunny:

[86WARD]

Guaranteeing First ballot HOF...lol.

[fansince'76]

Guaranteeing First ballot HOF...lol.

Yeah, that's the part that cracked me up too. "Call me a homer, but Wilson's going to be a first ballot HoFer! Guaranteed!" :lol:

[steelreserve]

Russell Wilson has set a deadline for later this week to work out a long-term contract with the Seattle Seahawks, and now we have more evidence that Wilson is seeking to become the highest-paid player in the NFL.

Russell Wilson turned down $21 million a year from the Seahawks, and it suggests he wants a game-changing deal (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russell-wilson-turned-down-21-144655220.html)



LOL ... if there is any deal worth $21 million a year in front of him, he is a fool not to sign it before the start of the season, because even if he eventually gets a better deal, no matter what is in it, there is no way it makes up for the $20 million he loses by playing this year on his rookie contract.

Regardless, this looks like it's shaping up to break the bank so that Seattle's team is Wilson, Richard Sherman and nobody else, so maybe another year or two of contention. When they lose all their players and go 9-7 ... couldn't happen to a nicer fan base.

[86WARD]

When they lose all their players and go 9-7 ... What fan base?

[polamalubeast]

His agent is a Baseball Agent

In baseball, the agents want their client to be free agent!

[fansince'76]

His agent is a Baseball Agent

In baseball, the agents want their client to be free agent!

No salary cap in MLB either. :chuckle:

[86WARD]

He should just sign with the Texas Rangers..

[Steelman]

He should just sign with the Texas Rangers..

All of our second basemen are crap anyway, (yeah, I'm a Rangers fan....) so I'd be all for that.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I'm really hoping that he does leave so that everyone can see just how overrated he is as an NFL QB. #22 in the top 100 while Ben is #26????? F that!!!

[polamalubeast]

Pessimism Wilson, Seahawks strike deal before camp


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[polamalubeast]

Russell Wilson fully deserves mega deal from Seattle Seahawks


It's time for the Seattle Seahawks to break the bank and pay Russell Wilson like a franchise quarterback.

The team has been talking to Wilson's reps about a long-term deal, but as NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported earlier this month, these negotiations have a deadline of Friday, when Wilson and his teammates are set to hit the field for training camp. And as Rapoport reported Thursday, there's pessimism that the two sides will get a deal done within that time frame. This is unfortunate, because a long-term deal makes sense for all parties involved.

I'm sure the Wilson skeptics will take me to task for emphatically stating that the fourth-year pro deserves to be paid like a top-five quarterback, but he is a spectacular playmaker with a stellar résumé that is unrivaled in NFL history. Wilson is the first quarterback to appear in two Super Bowls in his first three seasons. At the moment, Wilson holds the second-best career passer rating in NFL history (98.6, behind only Aaron Rodgers' absurd 106.0) among those with 1,000 or more pass attempts.

Given some time to dig into the All-22 Coaches Film ahead of Wilson's self-imposed deadline on contract negotiations, I've come up with three reasons for the Seahawks to open up the checkbook for the 26-year-old signal caller:

1) Wilson is a franchise quarterback.

For all of the conversation regarding Wilson's game and potential, there is no disputing his value to the Seahawks. Wilson is a franchise quarterback, and he deserves to be paid handsomely. Granted, he has been supported by one of the most dominant defenses in NFL history and plays with arguably the top running back in the game. Still, Wilson has been largely responsible for pushing the Seahawks from good to great over the past three seasons.

Since Wilson stepped into the starting lineup in 2012, the Seahawks have posted a 36-12 regular-season record, including an impressive 22-2 mark at home. Seattle has earned three straight playoff berths and made back-to-back Super Bowl appearances. Considering Wilson came up 1 yard short of capturing a second straight Lombardi Trophy, the diminutive playmaker deserves to be considered one of the top players at the position -- and his compensation should match his production.

Now, I know traditionalists have defined franchise quarterbacks as polished pocket passers capable of carrying the offense in conventional aerial attacks, but the NFL coaches I've been around (Marv Levy, Mike Holmgren, Marty Schottenheimer, Tom Coughlin, Jon Gruden and John Fox) have coveted QBs with "winning" characteristics (intelligence, leadership, grit, competitiveness and clutch factor) and impressive résumés -- as opposed to gaudy, fantasy-friendly passing numbers. Yes, it is important for the franchise quarterback to show he can move the team on the strength of his arm, but there is something to be said for a guy who understands how to simply lead his team to the winner's circle.

Franchise quarterbacks should be judged on their ability to win games, and that's all Wilson has done in Seattle. Remember, this was a sub-.500 team (14-18 regular-season record) in the first two years of coach Pete Carroll's tenure, when Matt Hasselbeck, Tarvaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehurst were under center.

While I don't agree with the negative connotation of the "game manager" label some place on Wilson, I believe it is important to note that several of today's top quarterbacks -- including Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger -- started their careers as caretakers. In fact, I believe Brady and Roethlisberger perfectly illustrate how so-called game managers can grow into primary playmakers. Check out how Wilson's first three seasons as an NFL starter compare:

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