Harrison will play fewer snaps this season

[polamalubeast]

Linebacker coach Joey Porter said Saturday that veteran linebacker James Harrison can expect to play only about 25 snaps per game this season.
It's a surprising number, considering the 36-year-old linebacker could start at right outside linebacker.
“He knows where he is,” Porter said shortly after the Steelers drafted Miami (Fla.) outside linebacker Anthony Chickillo on the final day of the NFL Draft. “I told him already, the James Harrison (of before) is over.
“He's going to play his role, and his role is going to be effective. He knows what we're asking out of him, and he's going to be ready to answer the bell.”
Harrison, who turns 37 on Monday, had 432 snaps in 11 games last season. He had 45 tackles and 5½ sacks, which was third best behind Jason Worilds and Cam Heyward.
“Harrison is going to be a better player for us if I keep his snap count down to 25,” Porter said. “I'll get the best James Harrison I can out of him instead of trying to make him play like he was — 25–60 snaps a game.”


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[stillers4me]

At 37, James is old enough to be Jessie James' father.

[Steelman]

I will say this though, for being 37, James is in incredible shape right now. Wouldn't surprise me if he dominates early on in the season. Joey's gonna have his hands full tying to keep him off the field.

[steelreserve]

They'll say that, but let's see what happens when Harrison actually gets on the field. If he's at all like last year, he'll make it so you'd have to have your head examined to take him out of the game.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Joey Porter can say that now but let's face it, Deebo's snap count is going to depend a lot on how Jarvis Jones plays...

[tube517]

I'm thinking Fred Dean circa 1981-84 for the Niners. Role player but dangerous. Not an every down player but a specialist

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[86WARD]

They say this, but if he's productive...it's going to be hard to keep him away...

[Steeldude]

Joey Porter can say that now but let's face it, Deebo's snap count is going to depend a lot on how Jarvis Jones plays...

This.

Unfortunately, I feel Jones will be a flop. Perhaps Howard Jones or Dupree will show something. They will need Harrison deep into the season.

[cold-hard-steel]

This.

Unfortunately, I feel Jones will be a flop. Perhaps Howard Jones or Dupree will show something. They will need Harrison deep into the season. I can't understand your reasoning that Jones is a flop .He did not prove to me or anyone i converse with that he was anywhere close to not being effective. He got hurt dude .

[ALLD]

Hopefully we will not see Harrison age on the field this season. First thing he will lose is speed. He will keep his power in spurts, that's the reasoning behind the lower snap count. You also lose stamina. So he might be done by Week 12 if he played every snap. It will definitely be his last season and very interesting.

[SteelerFanInStl]

I can't understand your reasoning that Jones is a flop .He did not prove to me or anyone i converse with that he was anywhere close to not being effective. He got hurt dude .

There are a lot of people that have already decided that Jones is a bust despite the fact that he was playing pretty well last year before he injured his wrist.

This year should tell us what we need to know about him.

[TD's & Beer]

Porter said he told Harrison he wasn't going to play an entire game anymore.

I bet they had the same plan last year

Everybody has a plan till they get punched in the mouth

[cold-hard-steel]

Porter said he told Harrison he wasn't going to play an entire game anymore.

I bet they had the same plan last year

Everybody has a plan till they get punched in the mouth

Wow man , where did that one come from . My plan was never to live forever .I have been mad before,but thats cause to pull the string on my ole bomb jacket i;m wearin.

[TD's & Beer]

Wow man , where did that one come from .

just an observation

here's another one

I hope this guy turns into the next Aaron Smith

http://blog.allcanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/achick.jpg

[Steeldude]

I can't understand your reasoning that Jones is a flop .He did not prove to me or anyone i converse with that he was anywhere close to not being effective. He got hurt dude .

Yes, he was became injured. The games he played he didn't show me much of anything. He didn't show much of anything in college either.

Another reason is Jones may be a flop is when he admitted he will not try working out to get better. He stated he might try the gym if everything else fails.

Has he proven to you he is effective? If yes, then how so?

[Shoes]

Hopefully it will go this way, It will be better for everyone.

[stillers4me]

Another reason is Jones may be a flop is when he admitted he will not try working out to get better. He stated he might try the gym if everything else fails.

I don't recall reading that. Link?

[SteelerFanInStl]

Yes, he was became injured. The games he played he didn't show me much of anything. He didn't show much of anything in college either.

Another reason is Jones may be a flop is when he admitted he will not try working out to get better. He stated he might try the gym if everything else fails.

Has he proven to you he is effective? If yes, then how so?

Seriously? Two time consensus first-team All-American playing in the SEC. 13.5 sacks his junior year and 14.5 sacks his senior year. In 12 games his senior year he had 85 tackles, 24 tackles for loss, 1 interception, 7 forced fumbles and 2 fumble recoveries to go along with the 14.5 sacks.

Is this what you call not showing much of anything?

[polamalubeast]

This is a make or break years for Jones....

[fansince'76]

This is a make or break years for Jones....

Yep.

[hawaiiansteeler]

He didn't show much of anything in college either.



I guess those 28 sacks Jarvis Jones had his last 2 years against SEC competition didn't count, huh? :noidea:

[zulater]

I guess those 28 sacks Jarvis Jones had his last 2 years against SEC competition didn't count, huh? :noidea:

No more than Tim Tebow's touchdowns as a Gator qb does.

[hawaiiansteeler]

No more than Tim Tebow's touchdowns as a Gator qb does.

if someone stated that Tim Tebow didn't show much of anything in college, would you say that was a true or a false statement?

[zulater]

if someone stated that Tim Tebow didn't show much of anything in college, would you say that was a true or a false statement?

No. But I would say it's irrelevant what a player did in college once he's had 2 or more seasons to show his wares as a pro.

[hawaiiansteeler]

No. But I would say it's irrelevant what a player did in college once he's had 2 or more seasons to show his wares as a pro.

I was responding to a post that stated Jarvis Jones didn't do anything in college.

would you say that is a true or a false statement?

[LLT]

No more than Tim Tebow's touchdowns as a Gator qb does.

Yes...BUT.. Tebow showed us what he "couldn't" do with two full years as a healthy pro. Jones hasn't had that luxury.

And regardless..the question posed was what did Jones do "in college".

[zulater]

Yes...BUT.. Tebow showed us what he "couldn't" do with two full years as a healthy pro. Jones hasn't had that luxury.

And regardless..the question posed was what did Jones do "in college".

I'm aware of all that. But I'm not interested in what he did in college or what excuses he has for his first two years. As Polamalubeast and Fan have said, this is a make or break year for Jarvis. He showed some flashes of competence as a pass rusher. But as far as holding the edge on running plays he's been a failure. And if teams are gashing you for 6+ yards every time they run around the left end it wont matter if you can mount the occasional good edge rush. Jones has been a huge disappointment so far. And his unwillingness to hit the weight room hard makes me feel that he'll remain one. But I hope I'm wrong. :noidea:

[LLT]

I'm aware of all that. But I'm not interested in what he did in college or what excuses he has for his first two years. As Polamalubeast and Fan have said, this is a make or break year for Jarvis. He showed some flashes of competence as a pass rusher. But as far as holding the edge on running plays he's been a failure. And if teams are gashing you for 6+ yards every time they run around the left end it wont matter if you can mount the occasional good edge rush. Jones has been a huge disappointment so far. And his unwillingness to hit the weight room hard makes me feel that he'll remain one. But I hope I'm wrong. :noidea:


I hope you are also...and there is no denying that Jones needs to get stronger at the point of attack. I still think Moats has the ability to hold down one side and if Dupree is everything the FO thinks he is....then we have a pretty NICE problem is Jones finally shows up.

[polamalubeast]

I do not think Jones was good in the first 2 games of the season

The run defense of the Steelers was awful in its 2 games

[Mojouw]

Is there actual evidence that Jones refuses and/or doesn't believe in the weight room?

I think I have made it clear that I think Jones is terrible and has no upside on multiple occasions, but I simply find it hard to believe that he doesn't work out. I mean I'm sure he is no Harrison, but who is?

[zulater]

Is there actual evidence that Jones refuses and/or doesn't believe in the weight room?

I think I have made it clear that I think Jones is terrible and has no upside on multiple occasions, but I simply find it hard to believe that he doesn't work out. I mean I'm sure he is no Harrison, but who is?

Just anecdotal evidence from several Steeler beat reporters who have said as much.

[Mojouw]

Just anecdotal evidence from several Steeler beat reporters who have said as much.

While I could totally believe it, I also have to consider the source. I don't think any of the regular Steelers reports could tell his ass from a hole in the ground most days.

Even, DK's latest column on the draft is illogical at best, and a poorly thought out random rant at worst. See the response from Steelers Depot:

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/todd-a-look-at-the-steelers-early-picks-and-a-response-to-some-criticism/

[hawaiiansteeler]

Is there actual evidence that Jones refuses and/or doesn't believe in the weight room?

I simply find it hard to believe that he doesn't work out. I mean I'm sure he is no Harrison, but who is?

James Harrison mentoring Jarvis Jones, Sean Spence, Vince Williams, and Ryan Shazier

http://steelcurtainrising.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Vince-Williams-Jarvis-Jones-Sean-Spence-James-Harrison-Ryan-Shazier-1024x768.jpg

http://steelcurtainrising.com/2015/03/coolong-usa-today-steelers-wire-btsc-jarvis-jones-james-harrison.html/

[LLT]

James Harrison mentoring Jarvis Jones, Sean Spence, Vince Williams, and Ryan Shazier

http://steelcurtainrising.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Vince-Williams-Jarvis-Jones-Sean-Spence-James-Harrison-Ryan-Shazier-1024x768.jpg

http://steelcurtainrising.com/2015/03/coolong-usa-today-steelers-wire-btsc-jarvis-jones-james-harrison.html/


Is there actual evidence that Shazier has eyebrows?

[hawaiiansteeler]

Another reason is Jones may be a flop is when he admitted he will not try working out to get better.

Vince Williams, left, posted this on his Twitter feed this week. It's a photo of himself, Jarvis Jones, Sean Spence, Harrison and Ryan Shazier in Arizona, where they are working out as a group.

It's good that the young linebackers are working out with Harrison, whose workouts are legendary. That can only help them in the long run.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-k5cuzL6F8Eo/VQ3wcud4w6I/AAAAAAAAAEs/wCfFPTm09GE/s1600/Linebackers.jpg

http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com.ar/2015/03/harrison-still-deciding-between.html

[stillers4me]

The same media that says Ben doesn't study enough, that all the players hate Ben, that Ben wants traded, and that AB is going to hold out until after training camp. That media? :coffee:

[zulater]

The same media that says Ben doesn't study enough, that all the players hate Ben, that Ben wants traded, and that AB is going to hold out until after training camp. That media? :coffee:

No just the guys who saw him shirtless and noticed that his upper body development from his first training camp to his second was relatively unchanged, and when asked about it Jarvis said something to the effect that he doesn't want to "bulk up". Jarvis's aversion to heavy lifting is no state secret.

[stillers4me]

No just the guys who saw him shirtless and noticed that his upper body development from his first training camp to his second was relatively unchanged, and when asked about it Jarvis said something to the effect that he doesn't want to "bulk up". Jarvis's aversion to heavy lifting is no state secret.

Troy never believed in bulking up, either. The media seemed ok with that.

In other words, there is no confirmed quote or even confirmed facts, just media conjecture that the reason he doesn't want to get too bulky is because he's obviously lazy.

[zulater]

Troy never believed in bulking up, either. The media seemed ok with that.

In other words, there is no confirmed quote or even confirmed facts, just media conjecture as to why he doesn't want to get too bulky.

When combined with his play against the run looked fairly accurate.

[stillers4me]

When combined with his play against the run looked fairly accurate.

But still an assumption.

[86WARD]

Is there actual evidence that Shazier has eyebrows?

He suffers from alopecia and an autoimmune disease which causes the inability to grow hair

[Steelman]

I've been wondering: is Jarvis' seeming reluctance/inability to bulk up actually a product of his medical issues? Just been curious, since I've been following the linebackers training in Arizona with Harrison and it seems like everyone bulked up except Jarvis.

...sidebar, Vince Williams looks like Harrison Part II right now...dude's getting torqued out. Hard worker.

Anyways. Pure conjecture. All of this could be a moot point if Jarvis has a productive season.

[cold-hard-steel]

This is a make or break years for Jones....

i do agree with this. You injure your wrist you lossed one of your most important tools .To heal it is another reason to lay off the weights .

[tube517]

He suffers from alopecia and an autoimmune disease which causes the inability to grow hair

I thought it was because he was actually Charlie Villanueva of the Dallas Mavericks :noidea:

[Steeldude]

I guess those 28 sacks Jarvis Jones had his last 2 years against SEC competition didn't count, huh? :noidea:

Not when you look at how he got the sacks. Think Gildong : )

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Is there actual evidence that Jones refuses and/or doesn't believe in the weight room?

I think I have made it clear that I think Jones is terrible and has no upside on multiple occasions, but I simply find it hard to believe that he doesn't work out. I mean I'm sure he is no Harrison, but who is?

I am sure he works out to a point, but not in such a way that it will make a difference in his game.

I will see if I can find the video interview. It was posted on here a few times. He stated something like "If it helps maybe I should try. I don't know". To me that shows he has no interest. I was reported before that Jones isn't a gym-guy. That's all fine and dandy if you are producing on the field or at least showing something which leads people to believe you will do something. From what I have seen is Jones pretty much getting pushed around. It's just my opinion on the guy. Maybe he will tear it up in 2015. Hopefully that will be the case.

[hawaiiansteeler]

James Harrison Looks To Break #Steelers All-Time Sacks Record In 2015

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/james-harrison-looks-to-break-steelers-all-time-sacks-record-in-2015/ …

[fansince'76]

I will see if I can find the video interview. It was posted on here a few times. He stated something like "If it helps maybe I should try. I don't know". To me that shows he has no interest. I was reported before that Jones isn't a gym-guy. That's all fine and dandy if you are producing on the field or at least showing something which leads people to believe you will do something. From what I have seen is Jones pretty much getting pushed around. It's just my opinion on the guy. Maybe he will tear it up in 2015. Hopefully that will be the case.

On the flip side of that you can have a gym rat like Ziggy Hood who was reputedly even stronger than Harrison and still pretty much sucked. I mean, I remember at least 2 offseasons there reading and seeing videos posted right here regarding how "beastly strong" the guy was and how he was supposedly the strongest guy on the team, yet it never came close to materializing on the field. Which is why I think the whole "workout warrior" thing may be a bit overemphasized.

And I agree, I hope Jones turns it around in a big way in 2015.

[Lady Steel]

James Harrison Looks To Break #Steelers All-Time Sacks Record In 2015

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/james-harrison-looks-to-break-steelers-all-time-sacks-record-in-2015/ …

Deebo is gonna chew 'em up and spit 'em out! :tt02:

[hawaiiansteeler]

Deebo is gonna chew 'em up and spit 'em out! :tt02:

Deebo needs 8 more sacks to break the record.

even with limited playing time, I wouldn't bet against him getting it...

http://c10184100.r0.cf2.rackcdn.com/03-29-39_james-harrison_original.jpg

[86WARD]

I would love to see him get that sack record. I liked Gildon and all, but Harrison is more fitting IMO...he'd probably only need a couple/few if they didn't let him leave for Cincinnati for that short period...

[tube517]

Deebo needs 8 more sacks to break the record.

even with limited playing time, I wouldn't bet against him getting it...

http://c10184100.r0.cf2.rackcdn.com/03-29-39_james-harrison_original.jpg

:nono: That's a $200k fine in that picture. Oh wait, the NFL will frame it and sell it on the front page of their internet site. But, that's not hypocritical or anything like that :chuckle:


But, yes, please, Deebo break the record.

[Steeler_Dynasty]

I'll certainly be looking forward to seeing what happens in training camp. And I can see Deebo getting some extra snaps, just because he's Deebo; but for him and the rest of the team, the most important thing is I want is for them to stay healthy.

[Iron Steeler]

Jones looked ready to turn the corner figuratively and literally . An injury stopped his coming out party . It has kinda been the way for all of our young LB Sean spence , Ryan Shazier, and Jones all battled with injuries and haven't had the chance to get into a rhythm or groove of the game . Once all of these young guys are collectively healthy as a unit, they will feed off eachother and Jones will be a big part of that. Especially with Dupree on the other side . I think we are going to hear "pick your poison " a lot this year . Prediction (healthy) Jarvis Jones 8 sacks

[hawaiiansteeler]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFYP2kaUIAAxJhr.jpg:large

https://instagram.com/p/23RJuFnh_O/

[TeeTee]

just an observation

here's another one

I hope this guy turns into the next Aaron Smith

http://blog.allcanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/achick.jpg

I thought they were gonna ask him to drop weight and play OLB?