Steelers Select CB Senquez Golson With Their 2nd Round Pick (56) In 2015 NFL Draft

[86WARD]

With the 56th overall pick in the 2015 NFL draft the Steelers select Mississippi CB Senquez Golson.

Draft Profile: http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/senquez-golson?id=2552264

[st33lersguy]

Better than nothing

[NCSteeler]

I guy well schooled in zone and off man coverage. But so much for our need for a big db. Got us another midget that can't cover the big bodied receivers. Guess it was the best left after the run on Darby Rowe and collins

[stillers4me]

Well. We never said what size we wanted.

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[Craic]

Impossible! I thought everyone got fired because we didn't draft a CB this year!!

[st33lersguy]

Would have much rather had PJ Williams and Alex Carter. This guy is too small, but at least it is better than nothing

[salamander]

What choice did they really have? The taller guys/guys they wanted were taken. Not much you can do when you're getting screwed over by other teams.

[JayC]

we must kick the cardinals ass this year. f arians

[86WARD]

What choice did they really have? The taller guys/guys they wanted were taken. Not much you can do when you're getting screwed over by other teams.

You could spend a 5th Round pick and ensure you get the TE you are looking for instead of getting schooled by a scorned ex-coach and your arch-rival...lol.

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Would have much rather had PJ Williams and Alex Carter.

Agree...

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Lake said Golson has unusual ball skills. "If he were taller, teams would've jumped on him right away."

Only...he's not taller. He's short...soooooooooo...

[st33lersguy]

You could spend a 5th Round pick and ensure you get the TE you are looking for instead of getting schooled by a scorned ex-coach and your arch-rival...lol.

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Agree...

Look on the bright side, it prevented us from drafting a TE we didn't need before getting a CB

[CaSteel]

meh, this pick is a desperate attempt at solving big time Secondary woes and a 5'8 170lb guy is not near big enough to cover today's NFL receiver

[fansince'76]

I'd rather have the CB at this point, personally, shrimp or no. That position has been WAY more neglected by this front office than TE.

[CaSteel]

Tom Brady is salivating at the chance to pass against the Steelers now more than ever

[86WARD]

AJ Green is 6-4, Marlon Brown is 6-5, Marvin Jones is 6-2 and Breshad Perriman is 6-2.

versus a 5-8 CB.

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Look on the bright side, it prevented us from drafting a TE we didn't need before getting a CB

True...however, I feel like they panicked and drafted on "need" instead of drafting the best available player. They wanted Williams there and got worked by Arians and the Ravens. Typical...

Good thing is, none of us know how he'll turn out...

I feel like they could've gotten him in the 3rd.

[JayC]

we just drafted brice mccain in the 2nd round. hell yeah

[SteelerFanInStl]

Would have much rather had PJ Williams and Alex Carter. This guy is too small, but at least it is better than nothing
Yep. Don't like this pick. I'm done watching for tonight.

[fansince'76]

So he'll play the slot. When William Gay is your best CB, you have to do something besides take a flyer on a 5th rounder...

[stillers4me]

I'm just feeling so underwhelmed. ....




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[86WARD]

Of the four TDs he gave up last year they were against receivers 6'4" or taller

[GBMelBlount]

Cornerback?

Check.

[Bluecoat96]

After reading of the negative posts on here, I'm reminded of these 2 guys.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/01/60211d2642631e114380d5e56cc6d12b.jpg

[teegre]

Impossible! I thought everyone got fired because we didn't draft a CB this year!!

:director: FIRE EVERYONE!!!

[salamander]

He's short, I get it. But I'm with FS'76 on this one. We need CB's and have needed them for years now. I'd rather this then wait until the 5th round on a guy who will probably get cut anyways (see last year).

[JayC]

someone post something good about this guy to make me feel better

[polamalubeast]

someone post something good about this guy to make me feel better

He is a great ball skills

[teegre]

After reading of the negative posts on here, I'm reminded of these 2 guys.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05/01/60211d2642631e114380d5e56cc6d12b.jpg

Spot on.

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People were complaining about getting Maxx Williams.

Then, when Williams goes elsewhere, people complain that the Steelers didn't get him.

[st33lersguy]

How do they manage to disappoint me and not get better at CB by selecting a CB in round 2? Really a 5'8 CB that will be a slot at best over Alex Carter? This draft fucking sucks ass!

[tube517]

Well. We never said what size we wanted.

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That's what she said.

[Steel Warrior]

A 5'8" CB in this league? What a joke, what a waste of a draft pick.

[teegre]

someone post something good about this guy to make me feel better

Mel Kiper called him the BEST pick of the ENTIRE draft.

Jason Varrett was arguably the best CB in last year's draft class. He's the same size as Golson.

[stillers4me]

He's supposed to be an interception magnet but I have concerns about him adjusting to NFL speed.

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[GBMelBlount]

Mel Kiper called him the BEST pick of the ENTIRE draft.

Will he get burned because he is short? Yes.

However he could also be a huge game changing / splash player because he is so crazy athletic and instinctive.

I guess we'll see.

[teegre]

He's supposed to be an interception magnet but I have concerns about him adjusting to NFL speed.

He played in the SEC... that's essentially "NFL LITE".

[stillers4me]

He had one less interception than the Steelers had in 2014.

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[teegre]

Will he get burned because he is short? Yes.

However he is also the kind of player that could be a game changer because he is so crazy athletic and instinctive.

I guess we'll see.

Cortez Allen is tall, but can't find the ball.

Paid rather have a short CB with ball awareness.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Mel Kiper called him the BEST pick of the ENTIRE draft.

Jason Varrett was arguably the best CB in last year's draft class. He's the same size as Golson.

I agree, Golson is a ballhawk in the secondary and we certainly need one of those.

plus, Golson will be matched up against the other teams' slot receivers who won't be that much bigger than he is...

[polamalubeast]

Will he get burned because he is short? Yes.

However he could also be a huge splash player because he is so crazy athletic and instinctive.

I guess we'll see.


This is my hope

[st33lersguy]

Mel Kiper called him the BEST pick of the ENTIRE draft.

Jason Varrett was arguably the best CB in last year's draft class. He's the same size as Golson.

Since when the hell does Mel Kiper know what he is talking about. How many times has he been wrong?

[fansince'76]

...Golson will be matched up against the other teams' slot receivers who won't be that much bigger than he is...

Exactly...

[Drazo85]

He is pure zone and off coverage CB. Does that mean Butler will continue to give 10 yard cushion to other teams receivers?

[teegre]

I agree, Golson is a ballhawk in the secondary and we certainly need one of those.

plus, Golson will be matched up against the other teams' slot receivers who won't be that much bigger than he is...

Exactly. He'll line up against the shifty WRs like AB, Manny Sanders, & Victor Cruz.

[Edman]

If size is everything, then Cortez Allen is a Pro Bowler.

He was burned by everyone last year.

[teegre]

Since when the hell does Mel Kiper know what he is talking about. How many times has he been wrong?

Every analyst has misses. Mel has been employed by ESPN for 25 years for a reason.

Mel liked him. Todd McShay liked him. Mayock said he was the best zone CB (albeit, a little short).

[JayC]

in gonna trust the FO and Kiper on this one. no reason not to at this point but it is hard for me to look past the height. im glad we took a CB instead of TE though.

[teegre]

If size is everything, then Cortez Allen is a Pro Bowler.

He was burned by everyone last year.

This.

100 times this!!!

[stillers4me]

I hope he proves us all wrong.

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[katmandu]

AJ Green is 6-4, Marlon Brown is 6-5, Marvin Jones is 6-2 and Breshad Perriman is 6-2.

versus a 5-8 CB.

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. Come on man! He's 5' 9" not 5' 8" ! LOL !

Three of his four touchdowns allowed came against receivers 6-foot-4 or taller.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/senquez-golson?id=2552264

[Steeldude]

Well nearly everyone wanted a CB picked no matter what. There you go.

[teegre]

I'll take him giving up 3 (of his 4) TDs to tall WRs... in exchange for 7 INTs.

[SteelerFanInStl]

in gonna trust the FO and Kiper on this one. no reason not to at this point but it is hard for me to look past the height. im glad we took a CB instead of TE though.

I have no reason to trust the FO when it comes to CBs. Most everything that I'm reading says that Golson should've been a 4-5 round pick. This looks like a major reach just because he can catch.

[86WARD]

someone post something good about this guy to make me feel better

@jimwexell: .@fski3 (https://mobile.twitter.com/fski3) what makes you think this was a reach? Some scouts in media called him a Pro Bowler that no one will have the guts to draft early.

@jimwexell: This is such an un-#Steelers (https://mobile.twitter.com/search/?q=%23Steelers&s=hash) like pick. I love it. This guy has charisma and ball magnets for hands. Look up his pick to seal win over Bama.

@PFF: New Steelers CB Senquez Golson allowed a QB Rating of 44.9 on throws into his coverage, 5th best in this class.

[Iron Steeler]

We never want to make a move to get our guys . Troy polamalu and Santonio Holmes were the last time I remembering us moving up to get our guy... Damnit just pull the trigger and do something

[st33lersguy]

Byron Jones and O.O. much better 1st 2 rounds than unpolished Jarvis Jones and the dwarf. smfh

[Iron Steeler]

The Ravens out gmed us with that move . Coulda used the TE

[hawaiiansteeler]

I'll take him giving up 3 (of his 4) TDs to tall WRs... in exchange for 7 INTs.

that's a real possibility, Golson made 10 interceptions in the SEC last season...

[Jaucer]

We never want to make a move to get our guys . Troy polamalu and Santonio Holmes were the last time I remembering us moving up to get our guy... Damnit just pull the trigger and do something

It takes two to tangle. Who said they didn't try?

[teegre]

that's a real possibility, Golson made 10 interceptions in the SEC last season...

10...!?! I thought it it was only 7 (which is still great).

4 TDs and 10 INTs... yep, I'll take that.

[Steel Warrior]

Evidently someone in the brain trust has a hardon for these little guys. How did Archer do? Very few of these undersized guys work out. What a waste of a 2nd round pick, worse than last year when we wasted a 3rd.

[86WARD]

The Ravens out gmed us with that move . Coulda used the TE

Somebody Tweeted out that the Steelers front office was pissed about it too..lol. Serves them right for sitting on their ass.

[stillers4me]

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Ah ha! So he knows he's short!

[Psycho Ward 86]

what i got out of this pick is that the steelers are REALLY counting on Cortez Allen panning out. Blake, Golson, and Gay? Thats CB corp to go with Cortez, who is the lone big boy

[Steelman]

I like this pick. I was hoping we could pair him with a bigger bodied corner, but the market is rapidly dwindling on that so I'm glad to see them take a ballhawk. You want a guy like this in your secondary. Maybe not a lockdown corner but he'll make splash plays which is Tomlin's mantra.

For all the Brice McCain comparisons I'm seeing, I would be happy if Golson played like McCain did last year.

[hawaiiansteeler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV5vaRBT2Gg&feature=youtu.be

[st33lersguy]

Looked up his weight and saw he was only 176 lbs. Geez, that is too light. We could have had Alex Carter too. Epic fail by Pittsburgh

[fansince'76]

Christ, can we see the frigging kid PLAY first?

[Lady Steel]

Welcome to Pittsburgh, Senquez! :tt02:

[Born2Steel]

He's only going to need to cover for about 5 yards and the quick slants/screens because Bud Dupree is going to be putting opposing QBs on their backs. No worries guys!

[Mojouw]

The Steelers play their corners in zone and off coverages basically all the time. What does Golson, even as an midget elf dwarf, excel at? Off coverage!

It's almost like they picked three players that were great matches of prospect physical traits with the scheme they plan on using them in.

Weird. That would mean that someone in the FO had two brain cells to rub together. That can't possibly be the case.

Also, this is the same fan base that was LAMENTING the loss of Brice McCain - a guy off the FA scrap heap. Golson is already better than that dude and he hasn't played a down.

The Steelers have a scheme. They draft guys that fit the scheme. This isn't the Cleveland Browns. They don't lurch from random idea to random idea.

[hawaiiansteeler]

Christ, can we see the frigging kid PLAY first?



why would we need to do something silly that before passing judgement? :noidea:

Golson is obviously a bust, he hasn't made a single interception for us yet...

[Lady Steel]

Transcript: Carnell Lake on Senquez Golson

Steelers defensive backs coach Carnell Lake spoke after the team made its Second Round Draft Pick, cornerback Senquez Golson




http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Transcript-Carnell-Lake-on-Senquez-Golson-/42f3802f-445f-4fc1-9672-478510ef9eba

[NCSteeler]

That's what she said.
WIN

[TD's & Beer]

He played in the SEC... that's essentially "NFL LITE".


that the fact jack!

he beat Alabama, ya know



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kFDIlKloi4

I jumped up and thanked Baltimore when they took that TE - that we might've thrown to twice a month - we need playmakers on D!


not sure how to act - a CB that can catch the ball - we're in unfamiliar territory here

[teegre]

If you can, watch tape of Jason Varrett in San Diego. He may have been the best CB drafted last year. He is able to run stride for stride, in & out of breaks, right there with ANY receiver. Sure, on a jump ball, Varrett is at a disadvantage... but, for the other 95% of the plays, he is in position to break up the pass.

Conversely, I've seen big CBs get juked, and end up several strides behind the receiver. In turn, those tall CBs are yards away from the play... negating their size. Whereas, Varrett is almost always right there. And, yes, again, sometimes Varrett's height (or lack thereof) is a disadvantage... but, it a matter of a few inches (as opposed to a few yards away).

My point:
Varrett is almost exactly the same size as Senquez Golson.

[cold-hard-steel]

He's only going to need to cover for about 5 yards and the quick slants/screens because Bud Dupree is going to be putting opposing QBs on their backs. No worries guys!

I see how it's gonna be .I'm right though and you know it .Cool !

[tube517]

Christ, can we see the frigging kid PLAY first?

No. I have my pitchfork being sharpened and shined up.

[Iron Steeler]

I hope we just didn't draft the dri archer of defense

[Psycho Ward 86]

for all the brent grimes comparisons with golson, here's another comparison (size wise):

Antoine Winfield (5'9'' 180lb)

[TD's & Beer]

http://media.sunherald.com/smedia/2015/05/01/20/26/2ot5N.AuSt.77.jpg


Senquez Golson’s visit to Pittsburgh must have gone well.

With the 56th overall selection in the NFL Draft, the Steelers selected the former Pascagoula standout and Ole Miss All-American.

ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper couldn’t say enough about the Steelers’ pick.

“If you’re a Ravens fan you hate the pick and if you’re a Steelers fan you love it. That’s one of the best picks of the second round,” he said of Golson, who visited Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and worked out for Tampa Bay and Cleveland. “Golson is an interceptor supreme. Sixteen career picks — 16.”

Kiper went on to call the 5-foot-8, 176-pound Golson “pound for pound one of the best football players in this draft” with “wide receiver hands.”

Fellow ESPN analyst Todd McShay didn’t knock Golson for his size.

“For a smaller corner, he will support the run,” he said. “I think he’s tough, physical, aggressive. He’s everything you look for.

“You wish he was a little bit bigger and longer and all of those things, but he plays to his potential and his ability and he’s not afraid at all to mix it up.”

http://www.sunherald.com/2015/05/01/6205771_two-mississippi-state-standouts.html?rh=1

[GBMelBlount]

Mojouw

The Steelers play their corners in zone and off coverages basically all the time. What does Golson, even as an midget elf dwarf, excel at? Off coverage!

Great point.

On a side note, Tattoo was small. Yet he was an amazing plane hawk.

https://i2.wp.com/i34.photobucket.com/albums/d149/LewP/islafantasia.jpg

[ETL]

Personally - I love this pick.

I have been a William Gay advocate for years on SF despite people blaming him for everything that ever goes wrong with the Steelers.

golson will be my new champion. All you naysayer will regret hatin on Golson.

[teegre]

Personally - I love this pick.

I have been a William Gay advocate for years on SF despite people blaming him for everything that ever goes wrong with the Steelers.

golson will be my new champion. All you naysayer will regret hatin on Golson.

When will you unveil the Golson Meter???

[stillers4me]

“You wish he was a little bit bigger and longer and all of those things, but he plays to his potential and his ability and he’s not afraid at all to mix it up.”

Can't wait till he starts picking off balls and all the naysayers go apeshit. #that'smyplanandI'mstickingtoit

[TD's & Beer]

We've had our share of "tall" 5'10 CBs with no ball skills...frankly, I'm relieved we went for a ball hawk in our zone coverage..




http://imgick.nola.com/home/nola-media/width620/img/lsu_impact/photo/17677169-mmmain.jpg


Undersized cornerback who's extremely feisty and competitive. Unanimous first-team All-American and first-team All-SEC selection. Tied school record for interceptions with 10. Great twitch, outstanding breaks on balls thrown his way. Loose hips, good eye discipline, doesn't get fooled. Outstanding against the run. Played mostly in zone.


http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/05/ole_miss_db_senquez_golson_pic.html

[TD's & Beer]

Personally - I love this pick. .

he has lots of fans

Unanimous first-team All-American and first-team All-SEC selection.

[ALLD]

176 lbs how is he going to stop the run or tackle a big receiver or RB?

[TD's & Beer]

176 lbs how is he going to stop the run or tackle a big receiver or RB?

he'll spear them in the balls with his helmet

you've never seen him play

[teegre]

176 lbs how is he going to stop the run or tackle a big receiver or RB?

Surprisingly, he does.

How? He goes low.

[Edman]

Personally - I love this pick.

I have been a William Gay advocate for years on SF despite people blaming him for everything that ever goes wrong with the Steelers.

golson will be my new champion. All you naysayer will regret hatin on Golson.

To be frank, Willie Gay was actually terrible in 2009 and 2010.

He turned the corner in 2011, and he's become our new best corner.

[Psycho Ward 86]

176 lbs how is he going to stop the run or tackle a big receiver or RB?

saw a stat somewhere that says Golson never missed a tackle last season. so there's that

[fansince'76]

176 lbs how is he going to stop the run or tackle a big receiver or RB?

If we have to depend on a CB to tackle RBs on a regular basis, we're kinda fucked anyway...

[stillers4me]

And then there's this......594565926487461888

[hawaiiansteeler]

by Jim Wexell

At the end of the draft, Colbert summed up the picks this way:

* Dupree -- "I'm still excited about that pick."

* Golson -- "Senquez was targeted to be picked in the second round, without a doubt. We were going to come out of that round with a corner and that was never a discussion. In fact we tried to trade up to secure Senquez Golson. Just to set the record straight."

http://pit.scout.com/story/1543401-steelers-complete-defensive-minded-draft?s=68

[st33lersguy]

And then there's this......594565926487461888

It looks like he has the jumping ability necessary to win some battles against taller receivers. That makes his height less of an issue

[vrabinec]

Tom Brady is salivating at the chance to pass against the Steelers now more than ever

Actually, Golson would help against the Pats because he's ideal to cover the Edelman types. But we're screwed against teams with big receivers unless 'Tez Allen pulls his head out of his ass.

[SteelerFanInStl]

It looks like he has the jumping ability necessary to win some battles against taller receivers. That makes his height less of an issue

His vertical at the combine was 33 1/2", which isn't very good. Maybe they needed to put a ball up at the top of the measuring sticks? :D

For comparison, Coates has a 41" vertical and Dupree has a 42" vertical. For CB, Byron Jones, Kevin Johnson, Ronald Darby, P.J. Williams & Alex Carter all have at least a 40" vertical.

[fansince'76]

Actually, Golson would help against the Pats because he's ideal to cover the Edelman types. But we're screwed against teams with big receivers unless 'Tez Allen pulls his head out of his ass.

Actually, it was Gronkowski who absolutely killed us when we played the Pats last time - it was almost like LeBeau threw his hands up in the air and wasn't even bothering cover him with anybody. Hopefully, Shazier can help with that.

[vrabinec]

Actually, it was Gronkowski who absolutely killed us when we played the Pats last time - it was almost like LeBeau threw his hands in the air and wasn't even bothering to have him covered. Hopefully, Shazier can help with that.

Shazier and Mitchell on Gronk, eh? Why does that not put my mind at ease?

[stillers4me]

Shazier and Mitchell on Gronk, eh? Why does that not put my mind at ease?

Both of them were hurt last year. Shazier had injury on top of rookieness and Mitchell had not one but TWO groin tears.

This is new year. I'm looking forward to seeing last year's draft theme of "speed" come to maturity. Can't wait to see this year's "turnover" theme catch up and marry last year's "speed" theme. #thatsmyplanandimstickingtoit

[Texasteel]

His vertical at the combine was 33 1/2", which isn't very good. Maybe they needed to put a ball up at the top of the measuring sticks? :D

For comparison, Coates has a 41" vertical and Dupree has a 42" vertical. For CB, Byron Jones, Kevin Johnson, Ronald Darby, P.J. Williams & Alex Carter all have at least a 40" vertical.

There is a lot of truth to that statement. On the field timing is often more important than height, along with knowing where the ball is. This young man looks to be very good at both.

[vrabinec]

Both of them were hurt last year. Shazier had injury on top of rookieness and Mitchell had not one but TWO groin tears.

This is new year. I'm looking forward to seeing last year's draft theme of "speed" come to maturity. Can't wait to see this year's "turnover" theme catch up and marry last year's "speed" theme. #thatsmyplanandimstickingtoit

Yeah, well, I guess we'll see about Mitchell. Shazier's gonna line up on the opposite side, so you're probably more likely to see Dupree or Moats try to cover Gronk, which is where Mitchell comes in. The thing about groin tears, they have a tendency to recur. Shark's too short to cover him, and so are our corners except 'Tez. It's incredible how much of our season next year hinges on Mitchell's groin and 'Tez's head.

[SteelerFanInStl]

There is a lot of truth to that statement. On the field timing is often more important than height, along with knowing where the ball is. This young man looks to be very good at both.

Definitely. It was said only half way in jest. Some players just flat out play their measurables when they're on the field.

[cold-hard-steel]

If we have to depend on a CB to tackle RBs on a regular basis, we're kinda fucked anyway...

Good one hoss. Blame it then on the MACH V . LOL::wink02:

[cold-hard-steel]

I think we should have all linebackers on our defense 11 linebackers .What a concept . Just kiddin man 11 cornerbacks that play linebacker that play the defensive line and can DROP THE QB ON HIS BACK .

[hawaiiansteeler]

James C Wexell @jimwexell -

I liked this Steelers draft because I really like Senquez Golson.

https://twitter.com/jimwexell