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stillers4me
03-07-2015, 08:24 AM
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Teams can begin to talk to the agents of players set to become unrestricted free agents.

NFL free agency begins on Tuesday, March 10, at 4 p.m. (ET), but teams can get an early jump on it.

Beginning today, March 7 at 12 noon (ET) teams are able to begin contacting the agents of players slated to become unrestricted free agents and enter into contract negotiations during the three-day period that ends at the start of free agency.

There are some rules that come with it, though. No contracts can be executed with a new club until the start of free agency on Tuesday, March 10, at 4 p.m.

In addition, players set to become unrestricted free agents are not permitted to visit a team, other than the one they are currently with, at their facility or meet anywhere..............

Read more @ http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/3-day-free-agent-negotiating-period-begins/5dc8ca64-bb9e-489c-abc3-55b98a46c264


The following are the Steelers’ players slated to become unrestricted free agents: linebackers James Harrison (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/james-harrison/f955db12-de79-47a3-9c61-d50c2583d49b/), Arthur Moats (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/arthur-moats/ef1de2d3-89d6-48a7-9371-cbbee6f293a2/) and Jason Worilds (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/jason-worilds/5c613eee-74dc-496d-85ff-b2dfb90b0b14/); cornerbacks Brice McCain (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/brice-mccain/e89bd05e-9eb1-48d9-9151-1f8084c29189/) and Ike Taylor (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/ike-taylor/a3a15eb8-af01-4ce7-8607-07a5e88db59f/); safety Will Allen (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/will-allen/12e7d31e-6126-4194-b4cf-71d15fa45f6b/); wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/darrius-heyward-bey/4b592703-3ae4-4989-bd5b-637077bbdf1f/); tight ends Michael Palmer (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/michael-palmer/1157c7e0-562e-48aa-aa97-bb3268c43170/) and Matt Spaethhttp://www.steelers.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/matt-spaeth/6e953cee-d299-44b8-9896-ca055f8872da/); running back Ben Tate (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/ben-tate/44f484a8-19bb-4e06-a6f0-58ca71011ecf/); and defensive end Clifton Geathers (http://www.steelers.com/team/roster/clifton-geathers/a66a6aec-0a07-4808-bf82-2444877dd8e3/).

katmandu
03-07-2015, 08:41 AM
Beginning today, March 7 at 12 noon (ET) teams are able to begin contacting the agents of players slated to become unrestricted free agents and enter into contract negotiations during the three-day period that ends at the start of free agency.

There are some rules that come with it, though. No contracts can be executed with a new club until the start of free agency on Tuesday, March 10, at 4 p.m.So Players "can" sign a new Contract with their current team starting at Noon today ???

SteelerFanInStl
03-07-2015, 09:37 AM
I'd like to see Harrison, Moats, McCain Allen and Spaeth back.

fansince'76
03-07-2015, 10:03 AM
Beginning today, March 7 at 12 noon (ET) teams are able to begin contacting the agents of players slated to become unrestricted free agents and enter into contract negotiations during the three-day period that ends at the start of free agency.

Twitter accounts everywhere begin blowing up with wild, unsubstantiated speculation which is promptly spread around as gospel in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Turning my BS filter up to "high" for the next 3 days...

stillers4me
03-07-2015, 11:13 AM
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vader29
03-07-2015, 11:34 AM
Twitter accounts everywhere begin blowing up with wild, unsubstantiated speculation which is promptly spread around as gospel in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Turning my BS filter up to "high" for the next 3 days...
http://i60.tinypic.com/2ziqx36.jpg

:chuckle:

salamander
03-07-2015, 01:25 PM
So, is Ndamukong Suh coming here yet? :chuckle:

And yes, I'm joking.

fansince'76
03-07-2015, 01:45 PM
So, is Ndamukong Suh coming here yet? :chuckle:

And yes, I'm joking.

(Suh's agent flies into Pittsburgh to visit a sick relative at UPMC - tweets out to the entire world): The Steelers are getting Suh!!!! :lol:

salamander
03-07-2015, 01:51 PM
(Suh's agent flies into Pittsburgh to visit a sick relative at UPMC - tweets out to the entire world): The Steelers are getting Suh!!!! :lol:

Sounds about right. :lol:

stillers4me
03-07-2015, 03:03 PM
You snooze, you lose! :heh:

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stillers4me
03-09-2015, 04:16 PM
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salamander
03-09-2015, 04:52 PM
I wish/hope Brice McCain is on that list for the Steelers to re-sign.

st33lersguy
03-09-2015, 10:02 PM
How long are they going to wait on Troy to retire?

tube517
03-11-2015, 01:59 PM
575731151597400064

Bye Bye Brice McCain

Psycho Ward 86
03-11-2015, 02:13 PM
Great start....http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/dolphins-sign-cb-brice-mccain/

polamalubeast
03-11-2015, 02:23 PM
The Steelers will probably have the least talented defense that they had since a very long time(with or without Harrison)

st33lersguy
03-11-2015, 03:13 PM
They couldn't afford to lose McCain. Now who are they going to get, all the starting caliber CBs are gone!

salamander
03-11-2015, 03:17 PM
Stupid on the Steelers part letting McCain sign elsewhere.

Psycho Ward 86
03-11-2015, 03:21 PM
They couldn't afford to lose McCain. Now who are they going to get, all the starting caliber CBs are gone!

Perrish Cox, Chris Culliver, Antonio Cromartie. If we dont get any of them, dont even get me started

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Steelers Interested in Saints CB Patrick Robinson: http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-interested-in-saints-free-agent-cb-patrick-robinson/

Would be nice to see them talk with Culliver, Cromartie, or Cox soon

st33lersguy
03-11-2015, 03:25 PM
Steelers Interested in Saints CB Patrick Robinson: http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-interested-in-saints-free-agent-cb-patrick-robinson/

Would be nice to see them talk with Culliver, Cromartie, or Cox soon

Patrick Robinson? Might as well bring back Ike Taylor, and knowing Pittsburgh they will not go after Culliver, Cromartie, or Cox

polamalubeast
03-11-2015, 03:34 PM
They couldn't afford to lose McCain. Now who are they going to get, all the starting caliber CBs are gone!

You forget Gay!!!!!

st33lersguy
03-11-2015, 03:57 PM
You forget Gay!!!!!

I was talking out in the free agent market, and I had forgotten Chris Culliver and Perrish Cox were still on the market. Not like the Steelers will pursue them anyway

LLT
03-11-2015, 04:28 PM
Patrick Robinson? Might as well bring back Ike Taylor,

Well...Robinson IS better than the Ike Taylor of the last 2-3 years. But not as good as Culliver or Cox.

Steelman
03-11-2015, 04:35 PM
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Guess we couldn't or didn't want to compete with those numbers.

I'm a little surprised though. I thought McCain did pretty well filling in last year.

tube517
03-11-2015, 04:49 PM
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still available..... :chuckle:

st33lersguy
03-11-2015, 04:53 PM
Well...Robinson IS better than the Ike Taylor of the last 2-3 years. But not as good as Culliver or Cox.

Patrick Robinson sucks and would not be an upgrade in the secondary. He would be as bad a signing as Cam Thomas

Mojouw
03-11-2015, 05:05 PM
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Guess we couldn't or didn't want to compete with those numbers.

I'm a little surprised though. I thought McCain did pretty well filling in last year.

Those are bonkers numbers for essentially a replacement level player. I would be more upset if the Steelers matched that deal.

Steelman
03-11-2015, 05:50 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/NavajoScout/johnkuhnhof.png

still available..... :chuckle:

Damn! I had forgotten I had created this. Geez, that was years ago! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dwinsgames
03-11-2015, 05:54 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e339/NavajoScout/johnkuhnhof.png

still available..... :chuckle:

shippensburgs finest ... say what ya will but I always liked him , solid as a rock football player if he played in 1950s he probably would have been put in the HoF

SteelerFanInStl
03-11-2015, 06:45 PM
Asleep at the wheel again.

We can't even sign our marginal players. I think that he got paid too much but that's what happens in free agency.

I really don't even want to know what our secondary is going to look like next year.

fansince'76
03-11-2015, 06:57 PM
Damn! I had forgotten I had created this. Geez, that was years ago! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep, I remember when you first "unveiled" it. It still comes in handy. :chuckle:

Not to mention LLT's "Ode to John Kuhn":

500 lbs and 10 feet tall
The greatest sports figure of them all

He can hold 5 footballs in one hand
He had all the Dallas Cheerleaders...in a one night stand

His shadow once won a beauty prize
His McFarland figure...... is life-size

He once threw a touchdown...to himself
He has a steel-rebar reinforced trophy shelf.

He can change the orbit of the Moon
Hes Kuhn...John Kuhn.

A paragon..a record slayer
Admitted to the Hall of Fame while still a player.

Not sure if its true, but it's been told
his tears can cure the common cold.

So cool he sweats in cubes of ice,
He has counted to infinity.........twice.

His eyebrows are registered weapons...I'm sure
that Chuck Norris even calls him "Sir"

This ode is finished much to soon
for Kuhn....John Kuhn.

:lol:

st33lersguy
03-11-2015, 08:11 PM
The Steelers have really f'ed up since re-signing Moats and Spaeth. They let one of their 2 best corners in Brice McCain walk to the Dolphins for less than 3 million a year, they don't seem to be batting an eye while hearing James Harrison is being pursued by Tennessee, and they needed to sign a starter quality CB or OLB in free agency and what do they do, stand pat as all the good ones are coming off the board and going after 1st round draft bust Patrick Suckass Robinson. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. I am not advocating that the Steelers be active in FA like the Dolphins, but just sign at least one CB or OLB to be a quality starter and re-sign some of your better guys so the defense somehow doesn't get worse.

Psycho Ward 86
03-11-2015, 08:29 PM
I like how we went from talking to Darrelle Revis to looking at Patrick Robinson.

Yikes.

Yes, im aware that Revis is a jackass/wants way too much money and in all likelihood would have never happened but thats beside the point.

Devilsdancefloor
03-11-2015, 08:39 PM
Those are bonkers numbers for essentially a replacement level player. I would be more upset if the Steelers matched that deal.

he is a good nickel back, bu more a dime back, i thank him for his service and wish him the best

Mojouw
03-11-2015, 09:17 PM
Weren't we all complaining about signing sucky McCain and Blake this time last year? Now we lament them leaving for millions of dollars per year? Plug in sucky Patrick Robinson at under 2 million and you get mccain's production.

Psycho Ward 86
03-11-2015, 09:39 PM
Weren't we all complaining about signing sucky McCain and Blake this time last year? Now we lament them leaving for millions of dollars per year? Plug in sucky Patrick Robinson at under 2 million and you get mccain's production.

Eh, I think we ought to give McCain a lot more credit than that but I tend to agree that he is at least replaceable.

If William Gay plays as consistently as he has since he returned from Arizona, if Cortez Allen goes back to playing the way he did the previous couple of years, and if Antwon Blake plays at least as well as he did last season and maybe ascends that level since he's young, we're honestly in decent shape at cornerback as long as we snag CB with an early draft pick.

OLB is looking outright scary and questionable.

Mojouw
03-11-2015, 11:57 PM
Eh, I think we ought to give McCain a lot more credit than that but I tend to agree that he is at least replaceable.

If William Gay plays as consistently as he has since he returned from Arizona, if Cortez Allen goes back to playing the way he did the previous couple of years, and if Antwon Blake plays at least as well as he did last season and maybe ascends that level since he's young, we're honestly in decent shape at cornerback as long as we snag CB with an early draft pick.

OLB is looking outright scary and questionable.

Couldn't agree more.

Dwinsgames
03-12-2015, 12:10 AM
Eh, I think we ought to give McCain a lot more credit than that but I tend to agree that he is at least replaceable.

If William Gay plays as consistently as he has since he returned from Arizona, if Cortez Allen goes back to playing the way he did the previous couple of years, and if Antwon Blake plays at least as well as he did last season and maybe ascends that level since he's young, we're honestly in decent shape at cornerback as long as we snag CB with an early draft pick.

OLB is looking outright scary and questionable.


if is the biggest little word in the English dictionary ... but I will play along because it is possible ....

as for the last part not so sure I am over the top worried to be honest .... say we draft a DE/OLB in round 1 , come back in round 2 and snag a CB and go back to OLB in round 3 ...

then the entire landscape changes , we are pretty much set on Offense other than depth ( it would be nice to address T , G and TE as well as RB but none are critical THIS year but next year is another story ) I prefer to draft a year ahead of need but sometimes that is a luxury you just cant afford .... and a quality RB can be had after round 4 and I am not so sure you wont be able to find a TE then too if you are looking at a middle of the road performer ( aka a eventual good #2 TE but we may already have him from last years draft ? )

Honestly am not sure we do not have some quality depth players at RB already too ( just most fans do not realize it because of lack of exposure )

Our biggest issues are secondary and rush linebackers , we will see some quality cuts made down the road for late acquisitions and we have a draft ahead .... if they play their cards right we can be just fine , what makes me nervous is them actually playing those cards right .....

Psycho Ward 86
03-12-2015, 01:15 AM
if is the biggest little word in the English dictionary ... but I will play along because it is possible ....

as for the last part not so sure I am over the top worried to be honest .... say we draft a DE/OLB in round 1 , come back in round 2 and snag a CB and go back to OLB in round 3 ...

then the entire landscape changes , we are pretty much set on Offense other than depth ( it would be nice to address T , G and TE as well as RB but none are critical THIS year but next year is another story ) I prefer to draft a year ahead of need but sometimes that is a luxury you just cant afford .... and a quality RB can be had after round 4 and I am not so sure you wont be able to find a TE then too if you are looking at a middle of the road performer ( aka a eventual good #2 TE but we may already have him from last years draft ? )

Honestly am not sure we do not have some quality depth players at RB already too ( just most fans do not realize it because of lack of exposure )

Our biggest issues are secondary and rush linebackers , we will see some quality cuts made down the road for late acquisitions and we have a draft ahead .... if they play their cards right we can be just fine , what makes me nervous is them actually playing those cards right .....

I feel that 2 out of my 3 if's regarding our cornerbacks are pretty safe bets. I have been hot and cold on Cortez his entire career but I'm having a really hard time erasing what he did the previous 3 years just because he bombed last season. The more specific problem for us seems to be not necessarily the lack of corners, but the lack of corners who can play outside. I think most people would agree William Gay has been a good slot corner, especially since 2010. Antwon Blake improved down the stretch and got burned less on the outside after some time but seemed quite a bit better in the slot for the most part. Cortez Allen has been killing it in the slot for years. His rookie season he held Gronk to 4 catches 44 yards on 6 targets and no TD's. He continued that trend the following season by only giving up 26 receptions in 43 targets for 237 yards and no TD's, plus an interception, for a QB Rating of 65.7, and I do believe PFF ranked him the top nickelback in the league. The season after that Cortez was either really hot or really cold, but it seemed like he got burned most on the outside + some poor tackling (9 games where he allowed an opposing QBR of under 60, 4 games where he allowed an opposing QBR of over 100). One must account for the fact that he was injured much of the season, and Ike also mentioned that Cortez was playing through injury when he really shouldn't have this past season.

I dont feel all that desperate at cornerback as long as we take at least one early. More specifically we desperately need a cornerback that can play outside. If cortez figures out how to use his frame again, that will do wonders for the pass defense. Regardless of how our future CB draftee plays

It doesnt matter how many OLB's we draft. Injuries at that position could downright decimate us. Hell, our current starting lineup at OLB could get us fucked in itself. I'm not sure what your ambiguous 'sure we do, sure we dont' comment about RB depth is supposed to mean but we'd be a little nuts to think were ok there imo.

Dwinsgames
03-12-2015, 09:03 AM
I feel that 2 out of my 3 if's regarding our cornerbacks are pretty safe bets. I have been hot and cold on Cortez his entire career but I'm having a really hard time erasing what he did the previous 3 years just because he bombed last season. The more specific problem for us seems to be not necessarily the lack of corners, but the lack of corners who can play outside. I think most people would agree William Gay has been a good slot corner, especially since 2010. Antwon Blake improved down the stretch and got burned less on the outside after some time but seemed quite a bit better in the slot for the most part. Cortez Allen has been killing it in the slot for years. His rookie season he held Gronk to 4 catches 44 yards on 6 targets and no TD's. He continued that trend the following season by only giving up 26 receptions in 43 targets for 237 yards and no TD's, plus an interception, for a QB Rating of 65.7, and I do believe PFF ranked him the top nickelback in the league. The season after that Cortez was either really hot or really cold, but it seemed like he got burned most on the outside + some poor tackling (9 games where he allowed an opposing QBR of under 60, 4 games where he allowed an opposing QBR of over 100). One must account for the fact that he was injured much of the season, and Ike also mentioned that Cortez was playing through injury when he really shouldn't have this past season.

I dont feel all that desperate at cornerback as long as we take at least one early. More specifically we desperately need a cornerback that can play outside. If cortez figures out how to use his frame again, that will do wonders for the pass defense. Regardless of how our future CB draftee plays

It doesnt matter how many OLB's we draft. Injuries at that position could downright decimate us. Hell, our current starting lineup at OLB could get us fucked in itself. I'm not sure what your ambiguous 'sure we do, sure we dont' comment about RB depth is supposed to mean but we'd be a little nuts to think were ok there imo.

I am right with you on Tez ... your skills simply do not vanish at his age and I said it here somewhere before Ike publicly mentioned injury that there had to be something wrong with him , then he went on IR with no play time to put him there and little explanation ...

as for the RBs I meant that the guys we have may be better than realized , they just have not had the time with the team to show it , but this is from watching College tape on them because clearly there is not much of anything else ..

now I am not saying they are the kind of RBs that can make the yardage on their own , but they can and will give you what the line provides and once to the second level they have enough speed and wiggle to get you some more ... sure we could upgrade but its not mandatory provided the line does its job

steelreserve
03-12-2015, 12:25 PM
McCain was OK, but let's not kid ourselves, this was a case of looking better by comparison after watching Taylor and Allen stink the joint out. It was no picnic with him in there either.

Our cap situation and contract structures basically make it mandatory that our plan for this year is to hope that Allen improves. Then possibly draft someone as a backup or to eventually take over the Gay side. I don't think free agency was where we were going to find the answer anyway.

What I would like to see us do is find a decent DT, if for no other reason than to finally replace Cam Thomas. Whether or not we think McCullers is "the answer" at NT long-term, it's a position where we can definitely improve, and I don't want to settle for McLendon. There are several guys still out there who may not be the biggest names, but could probably be effective for a year or two and would not be a $10M splurge. I don't know how much, for example, Terrance Knighton is asking for, but even at $4-$5M, a guy like that could make a huge difference. Mosley from the Lions, and laugh if you want, but even Vince Wilfork could potentially fill a need too. Yes, the knock on those guys is that they're getting up there in years, but getting a Flozell Adams-type effort from someone like that is not a stretch.

Unfortunately, our front office apparently lives in a world where McLendon and Thomas are 10 times better than they actually are in real life, so I doubt we make any moves there.

Psycho Ward 86
03-12-2015, 01:38 PM
anyone know if Red Bryant can play in a 3-4? The jags released him

Psycho Ward 86
03-12-2015, 01:45 PM
brandon browner to the saints, because of course he is

Steelman
03-12-2015, 03:35 PM
Is Sterling Moore still available? I seem to recall he played pretty well for the Cowboys last season.

86WARD
03-12-2015, 04:49 PM
Eh, I think we ought to give McCain a lot more credit than that but I tend to agree that he is at least replaceable.

If William Gay plays as consistently as he has since he returned from Arizona, if Cortez Allen goes back to playing the way he did the previous couple of years, and if Antwon Blake plays at least as well as he did last season and maybe ascends that level since he's young, we're honestly in decent shape at cornerback as long as we snag CB with an early draft pick.

OLB is looking outright scary and questionable.

William Gay, other than most of last season, has been a nightmare at the starting CB position. What if he returns to what we've all known him for? what if Allen is what he is and what if Antwon Blake doesn't play like he did last year, what if teams know him better now with more tape and time to look at him? Then they are in possibly the worst shape they have ever been...even with the number one corner in the draft...

steelreserve
03-12-2015, 05:12 PM
William Gay, other than most of last season, has been a nightmare at the starting CB position. What if he returns to what we've all known him for? what if Allen is what he is and what if Antwon Blake doesn't play like he did last year, what if teams know him better now with more tape and time to look at him? Then they are in possibly the worst shape they have ever been...even with the number one corner in the draft...


We need to do something. Last year was comparable to the Lee Flowers-Dewayne Washington-Chad Scott shitshow, and it is hard to forget how bad that was. But we're pretty much locked in to giving Allen one more year to turn it around, and the best FAs are spoken for, so the draft is it as far as improving talent in the short or medium term. If we wait until the 4th or 5th round again, I will be PISSED. And if our existing guys play any worse than they did last year, I'm afraid there's not much answer besides eat the shit sandwich and smile.

stillers4me
03-12-2015, 05:26 PM
Wow. Free agency week has been a blast.

Psycho Ward 86
03-12-2015, 05:30 PM
William Gay, other than most of last season, has been a nightmare at the starting CB position. What if he returns to what we've all known him for? what if Allen is what he is and what if Antwon Blake doesn't play like he did last year, what if teams know him better now with more tape and time to look at him? Then they are in possibly the worst shape they have ever been...even with the number one corner in the draft...

What on earth are you talking about? This reminds me of people who thought Matt Spaeth magically became good last season. Gay has been playing fine beyond his awful 2009 campaign, and better than fine on the inside.

What do you mean if Allen "is what he is?" See my post above.

LLT
03-12-2015, 06:33 PM
What on earth are you talking about? This reminds me of people who thought Matt Spaeth magically became good last season. Gay has been playing fine beyond his awful 2009 campaign, and better than fine on the inside.

What do you mean if Allen "is what he is?" See my post above.

Gay is a roller coaster ride on the outside.....but he has become very strong as a nickel.

Psycho Ward 86
03-12-2015, 10:40 PM
apparently jordan cameron spurned the browns and is actually with the dolphins now.

Terrance Knighton to the redskins, 1 year for $4 million...

salamander
03-12-2015, 10:50 PM
Meanwhile, the Steelers front office continues to sit there with their thumbs up their collective asses. :heh:

Psycho Ward 86
03-12-2015, 11:12 PM
I say that we sign the guitarist from Slipknot that got stabbed in the head the other day just so we can feel like the front office is being productive.

WHO'S WITH ME

Count Steeler
03-13-2015, 05:08 AM
Why did they restructure all those contracts if they are going to sit silent?

GET BEN SIGNED!

Release Mr. Dirty Dick. NOW.

st33lersguy
03-13-2015, 10:43 AM
Chris Culliver to the Redskins, Akeem Ayers to the Rams. Unless they hit some home runs in the draft, the defense will be worse without a doubt

Dwinsgames
03-13-2015, 11:07 AM
Chris Culliver to the Redskins, Akeem Ayers to the Rams. Unless they hit some home runs in the draft, the defense will be worse without a doubt


unless they plan on taking a chance on Greg Hardy ( doubtful ) but possible I suppose ....

they still could potentially have a verbal agreement with Harrison and with Morgan and Orakpo signing with the titans seemingly will be 1 less suitor for James's services

katmandu
03-13-2015, 12:25 PM
Yep, I remember when you first "unveiled" it. It still comes in handy. :chuckle:

Not to mention LLT's "Ode to John Kuhn":

500 lbs and 10 feet tall
The greatest sports figure of them all

He can hold 5 footballs in one hand
He had all the Dallas Cheerleaders...in a one night stand

His shadow once won a beauty prize
His McFarland figure...... is life-size

He once threw a touchdown...to himself
He has a steel-rebar reinforced trophy shelf.

He can change the orbit of the Moon
Hes Kuhn...John Kuhn.

A paragon..a record slayer
Admitted to the Hall of Fame while still a player.

Not sure if its true, but it's been told
his tears can cure the common cold.

So cool he sweats in cubes of ice,
He has counted to infinity.........twice.

His eyebrows are registered weapons...I'm sure
that Chuck Norris even calls him "Sir"

This ode is finished much to soon
for Kuhn....John Kuhn.

:lol:Yea, be he ain't no Chuck Norris! Lol!

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I say that we sign the guitarist from Slipknot that got stabbed in the head the other day just so we can feel like the front office is being productive.

WHO'S WITH MESounds like a plan!

I'm dying sitting (like you) here waiting to see what the Tomlin/Colbert plan is.

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Why did they restructure all those contracts if they are going to sit silent?

GET BEN SIGNED!

Release Mr. Dirty Dick. NOW.x2. Seriously already. Just freaking do it.

What's the point in dragging it out any longer ?

SteelMember
03-13-2015, 12:38 PM
Remember that time when the Steelers made that big Free Agent signing... Me neither.

steelreserve
03-13-2015, 01:17 PM
Terrance Knighton to the redskins, 1 year for $4 million...


Now THAT pisses me off. For an extra $2 million, we could've had the best DT on the market instead of Cam fucking Thomas. It wasn't even difficult or expensive to fix. We just decided not to.

What a complete joke. Between this and the CB fiasco, people need to start losing their jobs, like - right away.

st33lersguy
03-13-2015, 03:31 PM
Big Ben extended, DeAngelo Williams signs

Psycho Ward 86
03-13-2015, 03:39 PM
Remember that time when the Steelers made that big Free Agent signing... Me neither.

Pepperidge farm remembers.

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Chris Culliver to the Redskins, Akeem Ayers to the Rams. Unless they hit some home runs in the draft, the defense will be worse without a doubt

Wow. And just like that Perrish Cox is the only viable starting free agent CB left on the market.

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unless they plan on taking a chance on Greg Hardy ( doubtful ) but possible I suppose ....

they still could potentially have a verbal agreement with Harrison and with Morgan and Orakpo signing with the titans seemingly will be 1 less suitor for James's services

That doesn't seem like a good idea. a 4-3 DE joining us to play what? And a guy who made awful off field decisions right on the heels of Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson's shenanigans. And don't even get me started about the price tag

steelreserve
03-13-2015, 03:48 PM
That doesn't seem like a good idea. a 4-3 DE joining us to play what? And a guy who made awful off field decisions right on the heels of Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson's shenanigans. And don't even get me started about the price tag


Yeah, and the position incompatibility and cost aside, he's suspended for at least the first 6 games of the season, isn't he?

Wouldn't want him in any case, and not because of some overblown moral stance. Guys like that just tend to be unreliable and always getting into nightclub gunfights, etc. More trouble than they're worth at any price.

Steelerette
03-13-2015, 08:10 PM
Patrick Robinson visiting the Steelers.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-to-visit-with-saints-cb-patrick-robinson-over-weekend/

Steelman
03-13-2015, 08:37 PM
Patrick Robinson visiting the Steelers.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-to-visit-with-saints-cb-patrick-robinson-over-weekend/

Nooooo....

SteelerFanInStl
03-13-2015, 09:04 PM
Patrick Robinson visiting the Steelers.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-to-visit-with-saints-cb-patrick-robinson-over-weekend/

Our FO seems to have no idea of what a good CB is. Don't sign this guy. I'd rather take my chances in the draft than sign him.

one side only
03-13-2015, 09:07 PM
This year's Brice McCain.

86WARD
03-13-2015, 10:37 PM
What on earth are you talking about? This reminds me of people who thought Matt Spaeth magically became good last season. Gay has been playing fine beyond his awful 2009 campaign, and better than fine on the inside.

What do you mean if Allen "is what he is?" See my post above.

In other words, all of your "ifs and ifs and ifs" could go the total opposite way of what you are "banking on."

Psycho Ward 86
03-13-2015, 11:23 PM
In other words, all of your "ifs and ifs and ifs" could go the total opposite way of what you are "banking on."

uh, i dont know if you know this but nothing is a given in the NFL. You can create a hypothetical "if" about anything.

Big Ben could destroy his elbow next season, get Tommy John surgery and never play well ever again.

Ryan Shazier could have a random religious epiphany and retire.

Leveon Bell could Darrelle Revis his way into the biggest contract ever given to a RB.

We could burn our 1st 5 picks on neither OLB or CB.

Are you implying Antwon Blake and William Gay are highly unlikely to produce at their serviceable 2014 levels? I did say 2 of my 3 assumptions stood a good chance of happening and provided many reasons for optimism that MAYBE Cortez Allen could go back to playing as well as he did for the 1st 3 years of his career.

st33lersguy
03-14-2015, 12:06 AM
Patrick Robinson is comparable to Ike Taylor in his current state

Psycho Ward 86
03-14-2015, 01:58 AM
i tend to agree with the negative thoughts on patrick robinson. however i saw somewhere that he has been steadily improving and had his best season last year and allowed a QBR of 75.4

if he can maintain that level of play if he comes here ill take it

Steelerette
03-14-2015, 06:07 AM
Equivalent to McCain with more upside I feel. He seems to have been developing nicely before his patellar injury so we'll see.

Dwinsgames
03-14-2015, 08:36 PM
Stefen Wisniewski is still out there , I realize we do not need a center but he would be an amazing guard and built in backup center in 1 roster spot ( upgrade over Foster ) and up grade as backup Center as well ... for the right money would be a heck of a pickup and still young at just 25 years old

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i tend to agree with the negative thoughts on patrick robinson. however i saw somewhere that he has been steadily improving and had his best season last year and allowed a QBR of 75.4

if he can maintain that level of play if he comes here ill take it

it was his best year as a pro , but also one marred with injury ..... I still think I would just as soon go after Tramon Williams or Kyle Wilson or maybe even both and let them fight for a job

Mojouw
03-14-2015, 09:56 PM
I think Robinson has been hurt almost every year since his rookie year.

He once had great speed and agility to stay with deep routes, but kinda stunk on the short stuff.

High end athlete with bad technique. I have no idea if the injuries have robbed him of any of his physical upside or not.

86WARD
03-14-2015, 10:01 PM
uh, i dont know if you know this but nothing is a given in the NFL.

This was the point. You need go no further than this.

Steelman
03-16-2015, 11:01 AM
577493058201235456

Sterling Moore flying in tonight. I saw more than a few Cowboys games last season since I live here and recall Moore playing pretty well. Not all-world or anything, but serviceable. The fans wanted him to re-sign.

one side only
03-16-2015, 11:24 AM
According to the Steelers Depot report (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-to-bring-in-cowboys-cb-sterling-moore-for-visit/), Moore is a "physical corner that is probably best suited to play in the slot." They already have Gay and Blake; how many slot corners do the Steelers need?

Mojouw
03-16-2015, 12:34 PM
According to the Steelers Depot report (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-to-bring-in-cowboys-cb-sterling-moore-for-visit/), Moore is a "physical corner that is probably best suited to play in the slot." They already have Gay and Blake; how many slot corners do the Steelers need?

I think their plan is to sign all of them. Then assemble them into a super DB that can shut down one side of the field. Kind of like Voltron.

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/10/Toynami-Voltron-License-Announcement-2.jpg

I think Sterling Moore is the yellow one, Blake is the green one. Gay is blue one. So they still need a black and blue one. Figure that means about 2-3 more slot corners to compete for the last pieces of the Steelers cornerback Voltron.

st33lersguy
03-16-2015, 01:08 PM
I'd certainly take him over Patrick Robinson

Psycho Ward 86
03-16-2015, 01:14 PM
According to the Steelers Depot report (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/03/report-steelers-to-bring-in-cowboys-cb-sterling-moore-for-visit/), Moore is a "physical corner that is probably best suited to play in the slot." They already have Gay and Blake; how many slot corners do the Steelers need?

my thoughts exactly. i remember a couple people throwing his name around as a good option but i never knew until now that he was more a slot guy.

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I think their plan is to sign all of them. Then assemble them into a super DB that can shut down one side of the field. Kind of like Voltron.

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/10/Toynami-Voltron-License-Announcement-2.jpg

I think Sterling Moore is the yellow one, Blake is the green one. Gay is blue one. So they still need a black and blue one. Figure that means about 2-3 more slot corners to compete for the last pieces of the Steelers cornerback Voltron.

haha. the nostalgia from that image

Steelerette
03-16-2015, 03:34 PM
Santonio really, really wants to come back.

http://www.si.com/nfl/video/2015/03/16/santonio-holmes-pittsburgh-steelers?xid=si_topstories

Brown
Bryant
Wheaton

With Moore gone, and can we please forget about Justin Brown and Derek Moye, to be honest with you if it's cheap enough I would make sure Holmes understands his role as WR4, and sign him cheap, and just have Goodwin compete with late draft pick / udfa / camp bodies for that last WR spot.

86WARD
03-16-2015, 03:36 PM
I would do it...who knows...maybe he plays well enough to take the #3 spot...

Psycho Ward 86
03-16-2015, 03:46 PM
that lisfranc injury from his time with the jets was BAD. it sapped all of his speed. id say he's pretty done and not worth the risk

st33lersguy
03-16-2015, 03:54 PM
Santonio really, really wants to come back.

http://www.si.com/nfl/video/2015/03/16/santonio-holmes-pittsburgh-steelers?xid=si_topstories

Brown
Bryant
Wheaton

With Moore gone, and can we please forget about Justin Brown and Derek Moye, to be honest with you if it's cheap enough I would make sure Holmes understands his role as WR4, and sign him cheap, and just have Goodwin compete with late draft pick / udfa / camp bodies for that last WR spot.

Well if Smokey the Wide Receiver wanted to come back, he should have thought about that before he smoked weed and got his ass traded

Lady Steel
03-16-2015, 04:19 PM
He was becoming a mini Terrell Owens when we got rid of him. I don't want him back, and we most certainly don't him need.

Steelerette
03-16-2015, 06:02 PM
He "got his ass traded" as a distraction from the issues around Ben's accusations. He's also matured since then - and it's not like we don't have other players who have lit one up. It's the least of my concerns... the lis franc is a far more legitimate concern, but that will shake out if we bring him in for a workout and physical.

X-Terminator
03-16-2015, 06:56 PM
If he has no problem being the #4 WR, and he's reasonably healthy, I say do it. He already knows a little bit of the offense and he knows Ben. His lack of speed isn't much of a concern if he can still get open. They already have Bryant who can stretch the field.

86WARD
03-16-2015, 06:57 PM
I think their plan is to sign all of them. Then assemble them into a super DB that can shut down one side of the field. Kind of like Voltron.

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/10/Toynami-Voltron-License-Announcement-2.jpg

I think Sterling Moore is the yellow one, Blake is the green one. Gay is blue one. So they still need a black and blue one. Figure that means about 2-3 more slot corners to compete for the last pieces of the Steelers cornerback Voltron.

LMAO

X-Terminator
03-16-2015, 06:59 PM
I think their plan is to sign all of them. Then assemble them into a super DB that can shut down one side of the field. Kind of like Voltron.

http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/10/Toynami-Voltron-License-Announcement-2.jpg

I think Sterling Moore is the yellow one, Blake is the green one. Gay is blue one. So they still need a black and blue one. Figure that means about 2-3 more slot corners to compete for the last pieces of the Steelers cornerback Voltron.

How the hell did I miss this one??? You win 1 Internet for the day.

fansince'76
03-16-2015, 07:46 PM
http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2013/10/Toynami-Voltron-License-Announcement-2.jpg


haha. the nostalgia from that image

Voltron? Looks like a rip-off of the old Shogun Warrior "Gaiking":

http://www.penmachine.com/images/gaiking.jpg

Now THAT'S nostalgia, for you. And yes, I had all of them (the plastic 2-ft tall ones, the miniature die-cast metal 7-inch tall ones which could be reconfigured into other things before anyone knew what a Transformer was, the vehicles, etc.) when I was a kid in the late '70s - blew most of my paper route money on them. :chuckle:

Japan really cranked out bad-ass action figures back in the day...

Lady Steel
03-17-2015, 02:49 AM
Steelers expecting visit from former Cowboys CB

The Steelers continue to scour the free-agent market for an experienced cornerback.

After hosting Patrick Robinson on Monday, Cowboys cornerback Sterling Moore will visit the Steelers on Tuesday, according to a pair of industry sources.

Moore, a restricted free agent, was not given a qualifying offer by the Cowboys, allowing him to sign elsewhere. A qualifying offer would've cost the Cowboys $1.5 million.

Moore played all 16 games (started seven) for the Cowboys last year as a corner and nickel back. He didn't have an interception, but broke up 12 passes and played 72 percent of the team's snaps.

Moore, 25, originally was signed by the Raiders as an undrafted free agent out of SMU in 2011, but moved on to play 1 1⁄2 seasons with the Patriots and the past 1 1⁄2 with the Cowboys.

The Steelers are in the market for an experienced cornerback since deciding not re-sign veteran Ike Taylor and losing Brice McCain to the Dolphins via free agency last week.




http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/7985887-74/cowboys-free-moore#axzz3UcvGbTAa

Steelerette
03-17-2015, 05:46 AM
We have enough of those. Why not a guy who can play outside? The steelers' secondary is like a nickelback concert.

Butch
03-17-2015, 06:51 AM
Santonio really, really wants to come back.

http://www.si.com/nfl/video/2015/03/16/santonio-holmes-pittsburgh-steelers?xid=si_topstories

Brown
Bryant
Wheaton

With Moore gone, and can we please forget about Justin Brown and Derek Moye, to be honest with you if it's cheap enough I would make sure Holmes understands his role as WR4, and sign him cheap, and just have Goodwin compete with late draft pick / udfa / camp bodies for that last WR spot.

I would have no problem with us bringing him back, I always liked what he and Ben did playing street ball. He was clutch for us at one time.

Bluecoat96
03-17-2015, 07:06 AM
If he has no problem being the #4 WR, and he's reasonably healthy, I say do it. He already knows a little bit of the offense and he knows Ben. His lack of speed isn't much of a concern if he can still get open. They already have Bryant who can stretch the field.

If he's recovered some of that speed, he could also function as a possible returner. I don't think it would hurt to see what he has left. Honestly....I don't even think he has to be "fast" to be a returner.

LLT
03-17-2015, 09:46 AM
I have always been of the mindset that the #4 receiver position should be a young prospect, learning the playbook and preparing to move up.
I hate wasting that slot on a player who is on the decline.

Steelerette
03-17-2015, 10:56 AM
I have always been of the mindset that the #4 receiver position should be a young prospect, learning the playbook and preparing to move up.
I hate wasting that slot on a player who is on the decline.Between Brown, Wheaton, Bryant, and whoever gets WR5, that's four young players already. If the choice for WR4, considering the load of young WRs we have already, is between Santonio, DHB, and some late rounder or roster cut... easy choice IMO. Not saying Santonio will happen but it's not like the position is aching for young potential, we can afford, and probably would benefit from, staffing with a vet.

Psycho Ward 86
03-17-2015, 11:39 AM
what makes any of you figure that Santonio still has any speed worth a damn after that lisfranc injury?

st33lersguy
03-17-2015, 11:55 AM
Linsfranc injury that has pretty much ruined him + locker room cancer + has done very little since being traded to the Jets= no thank you. It will be very sad if Tomlin lets Sansmokio back to the locker room after he got himself kicked out in the 1st place, especially since he hasn't done anything to warrant returning to the Steelers since he got himself kicked out

SteelerFanInStl
03-17-2015, 12:00 PM
#4 WR needs to play STs and I don't see Santonio doing that.

Lady Steel
03-17-2015, 12:31 PM
How did Le'Veon smokin' the dope work out for us?

Yeah, moving right along...