Game goats vs Saints.

[zulater]

Ben first and foremost. With good qb play we could have jumped out to a two digit lead. Not only wasn't he good. He stunk like dead fish in a heat wave. All things considered it was the worst game of his career imo.

On defense, the entire secondary. Well the entire defense except for Cam Heyward and Brett Keisel.

And though he wont be, Tomlin should be fired.
To come out of a bye and play this poorly with everything to play for?! :frusty:

[Steeltreal]

This team was never a Contender with the Corners on this Roster. The end.

[ALLD]

Ben owns this one. Honorable mention to the coaching staff that gambled their players would be ready. Best WR and RB in the game and we can't call the right plays to score TDs. Bad execution too.

[zulater]

This team was never a Contender with the Corners on this Roster. The end. Yeah but it was the "franchise qb" that put the steak in their heart.

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How do you stop Leveon Bell? Easy let Ben and Haley keep the ball out of his hands. We'd be better off with a Mark Sanchez type qb handing the ball off to LeVeon 25 times a game and using play action off that. Even as bad as Ben was today, if they had stayed commited to the ground game this one doesn't turn out a route.

[dislocatedday]

Yeah but it was the "franchise qb" that put the steak in their heart.

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How do you stop Leveon Bell? Easy let Ben and Haley keep the ball out of his hands. We'd be better off with a Mark Sanchez type qb handing the ball off to LeVeon 25 times a game and using play action off that. Even as bad as Ben was today, if they had stayed commited to the ground game this one doesn't turn out a route.

Yes, gotta agree with Zu and ALLD's post above his. These are the things that have really made me lose faith in the coaching staff. This team has (although it could be argued) the NFL's top RB and WR.....and the team fails to consistently score points. It's like they are making an effort to fail consistently on offense.

[st33lersguy]

The entire team including coaches and front office

[X-Terminator]

Ben and the offense. No question. This is a game where he needed to play as well as he did against the Colts and Ravens, and he was awful to say the least. I can't blame the defense - they aren't very good and have very little talent. I knew Brees was going to have his way with them.

And with that, I am officially done talking about this game.

Onward to next week.

[ALLD]

QB rating of 59.6 says it all where he gets paid over $600k to show up today. Most players would play for free, the $ is for practice. I don't think BB practiced this week.

Ben needs to donate his game check.

[stillers4me]

I put as much blame on the defense as I do Ben. Ben will bounce back.......this defense won't. And all this nonsense about Ben going to Az.......smh.

[st33lersguy]

Game Ball: The Buffalo Bills (not that it will matter)
Game Goats: The Pittsburgh Steelers

[Drazo85]

Ben. He missed wide open players at least dozen times. Its not like the Saints defense played a heck of a game. Its all on Ben. If we jump 10 or 14 up in first quarter the Saints would be forced to play catch up, we would be able to rode Bell and win this game. Everything else, including the awfull play of the secondary is the product of Bens play in the first few posesions.

[ALLD]

Another Tomlin technical.

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Time to sign some of those looters from Ferguson. This team looks like they are more feminine than Tom Brady.

[steelreserve]

Ben all the way. Passing game was just a mess all day. If we didn't keep stalling on every drive and kicking long field goal attempts, it could've been a different game. But that's what happens when your quarterback stinks it up.

Honorably mention to Ike for his Cortez Allen impression on the long touchdown. Was hoping we were done with that shit.

We didn't get anything resembling pressure on the QB most of the day, which was a whole team effort.

SUCKED!

[tube517]

Goat = Ben

[steelerdude15]

My game goats would go to Ben and the defense. Ben gets it because he kept over throwing his receivers throughout the game and made poor throws which resulted in a couple of interception. The defense wasn't able to stop the Saints.

My game balls go to Antonio, Bell, and Heath for great games.

By the way, the Ravens just lost too!

[stillers4me]

Would have been nice to start that hurry up shit a little sooner....

[st33lersguy]

Another Game ball to the Chargers, loved watching the Ratbirds lose like that

[zulater]

Ben. He missed wide open players at least dozen times. Its not like the Saints defense played a heck of a game. Its all on Ben. If we jump 10 or 14 up in first quarter the Saints would be forced to play catch up, we would be able to rode Bell and win this game. Everything else, including the awfull play of the secondary is the product of]Bens play in the first few posesions.

I wish it were just the first few possessions! More like the first 3 quarters.

[Godfather]

Game goat: Ben. That was a disaster.

[Shoes]

Ben. other goats include…. Bryant and Moore each dropped a pass in the end zone, Mike Adams was pushed around like a rag doll again, Taylor needs to be on the bench, he gave up a TD and was the cause of another.

[zulater]

For any Tomlin apologist's still out there. Not blaming him for the loss per say. But after the Steelers scored on the 48 yard fg in the fourth quarter, why the hell does he kick the ball away? What exactly made him think that it would make any difference where the Saints got the ball? I mean kick it away they drive 80 for the TD and you're down 3 scores again. Give it to them at the 40 something, so what? The Saints weren't playing up surprisingly enough, take a shot damn it!

[stillers4me]

Season ending injury for da Beard.

[zulater]

Career ending injury for da Beard. Fixed it for ya.

[Drazo85]

Season ending injury for da Beard.

Activate Josh Mauro. :sarcasm:

[plenewken]

Goat: The whole team with a special mention to Ben who was worse than putrid.

[Edman]

This one is definitely on Ben, Haley and the Offense. Ben for playing like hot shit. Haley for deliberately phasing a red-hot Le'Veon Bell out of the Offense, and the Offense in general being terribad.

Bell and Antonio Brown were barely targeted, is it no surprise the Offense was so bad today?

Give Bell the ball, the Steelers not only not lose this game, but win it running away, but nope, that made too much sense. Our two best playmakers on the field, and we don't even get the ball to them.

Completely owning the Saints early on, but only managed 6 points. All it took was a New Orleans touchdown and they had the lead and the momentum, and it snowballed from there.

Add on top of a bad Defense on their heels all game, and you have today's game.

[Dwinsgames]

as I posted on twitter ... no Saints player had more than 17 yards receiving today EXCEPT Kenny Stills ( 162 )

[zulater]

as I posted on twitter ... no Saints player had more than 17 yards receiving today EXCEPT Kenny Stills ( 162 )

With 25 hurt and probably out might as well go back to Cortez Allen anbd see if he's salvageable or not? You can't even think of bringing Ike back.

[Buckinnuts]

taylor came back nough said # 1....burnt enough..cant blame ben too bad..435 yrds almost pulled it of f..defense...totally bombed

[HollywoodSteel]

I'm no Haley or Tomlin apologist, but with these plays called the Steelers should have won easy. Those "too many" passing throws that everyone is mad about were there for the taking. And Ben missed, time and time again. Bad QBs do that. Supposed future Hall of Famers should be trusted to make those throws. This low-talent defense handed Ben the ball back time after time in the first half only to see him stink up the joint when it mattered most. That has to be disheartening and it takes the crowd out of a home game.

This game was Ben's to win or lose and he lost. Put Brady, Rogers, P. Manning, Brees (and usually Luck) in the exact same situation and we win, no matter what plays are called. This is why Ben is not mentioned with the absolute greats. It's even worse because he has the talent to be as good as any of them. Greatness means greatness week in and week out. And right now that is not what we have in a QB. If he had an '08 type defense it might be enough. But he doesn't, so he won't be. And our hearts will be broken once again because we know how many points we should be scoring per game.

What if we do make the playoffs? Could you see the Steelers winning in Denver or New England with anything less than an act of God? And I don't believe in God.

If we draft perfectly and make the perfect FA moves in the offseason to greatly improve our defense then maybe we'll have a chance. But we can't win the way those other great QBs win: by simply outscoring everyone else.

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taylor came back nough said # 1....burnt enough..cant blame ben too bad..435 yrds almost pulled it of f..defense...totally bombed

Garbage yards. Ben left enough points out there to win this game, not to mention throwing a pick in the red zone. He could have won this game with the defense he has. And he ain't getting a better one anytime soon. So unless he starts taking advantage of the weapons he has, especially in the red zone, we have no chance. The defense isn't winning any games for us this year. And with our talent on offense, they shouldn't have to.

[86WARD]

Whole team but Bell and receivers. Wasn't really their fault Ben couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with a banjo. And the defense...lol...terrible for years to come.

[zulater]

Just heard some things on the radio that put Ben's interception into the end zone in a different perspective. According to Ben DHB was the only receiver in the route. Max protect. "No check down available".(that's a direct quote from 7) Either take the sack or chuck the ball down the field and hope for a better result. So here's the situation. 1st and 10 at the Saints 42. Score is 7-6 Saints. And you call a play where DHB is not only the intended receiver, he's the only effing receiver in the pattern! :frusty: Then later I hear Charlie Batch say on the post game show that DHB rounded off his pattern. (not sure how he knew this, but he seemed pretty sure) That if he runs the pattern properly he would have at least been in a position to make a play on the ball if not catch it. This is your brilliant play calling folks! :frusty: A guy that shouldn't even be in the league, let alone the game is your intended and only receiver on a 1st and 10 play from your opponents 42 yard line in a game you only trail by one freaking point! Heath Miller?, LeVeon Bell?. Antonio Brown? Nope. Nope, and nope! :doh: I wonder if Dri Archer would have been the intended receiver on the next play if the ball isn't intercepted? :sarcasm:

[86WARD]

DHB ... Another guy that has no business being on this team. Let alone the only receiver on the field. I tend to believe Batch over what I saw when it comes to that play.

[Butch]

The offensive line gets my vote they stunk and could pass block worth a crap. I personally blame them for Ben's bad play. Every carry for Le Veon was mostly all him. Defense had quite a game going early on, but the Offense couldn't come through.

[fansince'76]

Just heard some things on the radio that put Ben's interception into the end zone in a different perspective. According to Ben DHB was the only receiver in the route. Max protect. "No check down available".(that's a direct quote from 7) Either take the sack or chuck the ball down the field and hope for a better result. So here's the situation. 1st and 10 at the Saints 42. Score is 7-6 Saints. And you call a play where DHB is not only the intended receiver, he's the only effing receiver in the pattern! :frusty: Then later I hear Charlie Batch say on the post game show that DHB rounded off his pattern. (not sure how he knew this, but he seemed pretty sure) That if he runs the pattern properly he would have at least been in a position to make a play on the ball if not catch it. This is your brilliant play calling folks! :frusty: A guy that shouldn't even be in the league, let alone the game is your intended and only receiver on a 1st and 10 play from your opponents 42 yard line in a game you only trail by one freaking point! Heath Miller?, Le'Veon Bell?. Antonio Brown? Nope. Nope, and nope! :doh: I wonder if Dri Archer would have been the intended receiver on the next play if the ball isn't intercepted? :sarcasm:

Nope, sorry - Ben just ain't elite. Gotta be able to overcome full retard playcalling if you're gonna be one of the great ones. :rolleyes:

A part of me hopes he gets traded and comes back and sticks it up this team's ass every time he plays against it. :coffee:

[SteelerFanInStl]

Just heard some things on the radio that put Ben's interception into the end zone in a different perspective. According to Ben DHB was the only receiver in the route. Max protect. "No check down available".(that's a direct quote from 7) Either take the sack or chuck the ball down the field and hope for a better result. So here's the situation. 1st and 10 at the Saints 42. Score is 7-6 Saints. And you call a play where DHB is not only the intended receiver, he's the only effing receiver in the pattern! :frusty: Then later I hear Charlie Batch say on the post game show that DHB rounded off his pattern. (not sure how he knew this, but he seemed pretty sure) That if he runs the pattern properly he would have at least been in a position to make a play on the ball if not catch it. This is your brilliant play calling folks! :frusty: A guy that shouldn't even be in the league, let alone the game is your intended and only receiver on a 1st and 10 play from your opponents 42 yard line in a game you only trail by one freaking point! Heath Miller?, LeVeon Bell?. Antonio Brown? Nope. Nope, and nope! :doh: I wonder if Dri Archer would have been the intended receiver on the next play if the ball isn't intercepted? :sarcasm:

I didn't see the game but watching the replay of that play, DHB didn't have a clue where the ball was either.

I also heard that Bryant dropped a pass in the end zone that should have been a TD.

[zulater]

I didn't see the game but watching the replay of that play, DHB didn't have a clue where the ball was either.

I also heard that Bryant dropped a pass in the end zone that should have been a TD.


Yep. Sure did. Would have put the Steelers up 10-0.

[Lady Steel]

Ben, but mostly Todd Haley. I hate Todd Haley and want him gone! ASAP! He is detrimental to this team.

[Dwinsgames]

Ben, but mostly Todd Haley. I hate Todd Haley and want him gone! ASAP! He is detrimental to this team.

that is exactly how I feel ...............about COLBERT

[Dwinsgames]

Just heard some things on the radio that put Ben's interception into the end zone in a different perspective. According to Ben DHB was the only receiver in the route. Max protect. "No check down available".(that's a direct quote from 7) Either take the sack or chuck the ball down the field and hope for a better result. So here's the situation. 1st and 10 at the Saints 42. Score is 7-6 Saints. And you call a play where DHB is not only the intended receiver, he's the only effing receiver in the pattern! :frusty: Then later I hear Charlie Batch say on the post game show that DHB rounded off his pattern. (not sure how he knew this, but he seemed pretty sure) That if he runs the pattern properly he would have at least been in a position to make a play on the ball if not catch it. This is your brilliant play calling folks! :frusty: A guy that shouldn't even be in the league, let alone the game is your intended and only receiver on a 1st and 10 play from your opponents 42 yard line in a game you only trail by one freaking point! Heath Miller?, LeVeon Bell?. Antonio Brown? Nope. Nope, and nope! :doh: I wonder if Dri Archer would have been the intended receiver on the next play if the ball isn't intercepted? :sarcasm:


I won't pretend to make claims I am not qualified to make so I will not say how many where in the pattern as on TV I can not see the entire field , nor will I pretend to know the patterns intricate details I will however defer to Charlie Batch who does know and Ben who was involved in the play on the field as it unfolded ....

what I will say is not only was DHB in poor position but he NEVER looked to locate the football ....

my question would be this if I had the chance to sit down with Haley and Tomlin is why in God green earth is DHB on the field with just 1 potential receiver and furthermore why is he ever on the field considering every time we have seen him he has been involved in a sour play ...

[Dwinsgames]

I also heard that Bryant dropped a pass in the end zone that should have been a TD.


yes he dropped one , however it wasn't the best thrown ball of the day either , was it catchable yes .... ( would say 60-40 his fault but Ben has some amount of culpability on it as well )

[Godfather]

Funny thing was that all last week I was engaged in reverse smack talk.

"Steelers? Y'all are gonna kill us"

"Nah, we'll find a way to screw it up"

I'd laugh if it didn't make such a big difference in the playoff picture.

[zulater]

yes he dropped one , however it wasn't the best thrown ball of the day either , was it catchable yes .... ( would say 60-40 his fault but Ben has some amount of culpability on it as well )

Disagree. That was a ball an NFL receive has to come down with 100 times out of 100. Nothing wrong with that pass.

Ben threw a lot of bad passes yesterday.That wasn't one of them.

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I won't pretend to make claims I am not qualified to make so I will not say how many where in the pattern as on TV I can not see the entire field , nor will I pretend to know the patterns intricate details I will however defer to Charlie Batch who does know and Ben who was involved in the play on the field as it unfolded ....

what I will say is not only was DHB in poor position but he NEVER looked to locate the football ....

my question would be this if I had the chance to sit down with Haley and Tomlin is why in God green earth is DHB on the field with just 1 potential receiver and furthermore why is he ever on the field considering every time we have seen him he has been involved in a sour play ...

And we could also ask him why he's handing off to Dri Archer in a one back set on 2nd and 1 and running the ball inside the tackle box?

[Dwinsgames]

Disagree. That was a ball an NFL receive has to come down with 100 times out of 100. Nothing wrong with that pass.

Ben threw a lot of bad passes yesterday.That wasn't one of them.

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And we could also ask him why he's handing off to Dri Archer in a one back set on 2nd and 1 and running the ball inside the tackle box?


looked for that play to rewatch , cant find it and I deleted the game already could not bare to rewatch that hot mess ...

seems to me that pass should have been a few feet out and away from Bryant but instead was in tight close to the defender , or am I thinking of another play ? ( wish I didn't delete the damn thing now )

[zulater]

looked for that play to rewatch , cant find it and I deleted the game already could not bare to rewatch that hot mess ...

seems to me that pass should have been a few feet out and away from Bryant but instead was in tight close to the defender , or am I thinking of another play ? ( wish I didn't delete the damn thing now )

Just watched it again on NFL rewind. That's a catch that has to be made. The ball hit Bryant in both hands. He had the defender shielded with his body. While it wasn't a perfect throw it was more than good enough to get the job done. I would wager a guess the coaches pin that drop entirely on Martavis.

[Godfather]

The signature play of DHB's career was a few years ago in Oakland when he was running a deep sideline route. He fell on his face and the defender just played centerfield as a result.

I posted in the game thread that I wouldn't throw to a wide open DHB, much less a double covered one. Ben also should have audibled out of that run call--you don't send the smallest RB in the league up the middle.