The Manning TD Watch

[Count Steeler]

Currently at 508 and tied with Favre.

Sanders looks good in orange. Better than Black and Gold.

[Count Steeler]

He has 509. Impressive any way you look at it.

[st33lersguy]

Congrats to one of the all-time greats, and he is still going strong at 38 in his 17th season. Even with the game favoring the pass offense, this record will be difficult to break especially when Peyton extends the record

[86WARD]

Nice throw and catch for the record. Roethlisberger up next to break a Favre record!!

[st33lersguy]

Nice throw and catch for the record. Roethlisberger up next to break a Favre record!!

Most sacks given up on one player by 5 traffic cones

[zulater]

Congrats to one of the all-time greats, and he is still going strong at 38 in his 17th season. Even with the game favoring the pass offense, this record will be difficult to break especially when Peyton extends the record

Luck is the one guy playing today I could see that could possibly challenge it. But that's a long way down the road if ever.

[Shoes]

Currently at 508 and tied with Favre.

Sanders looks good in orange. Better than Black and Gold.

He does indeed and he made the right choice moving on.

[st33lersguy]

Currently at 508 and tied with Favre.

Sanders looks good in orange. Better than Black and Gold.

Peyton Manning can make you and I look like decent at WR.

[steelreserve]

Congrats to one of the all-time greats, and he is still going strong at 38 in his 17th season. Even with the game favoring the pass offense, this record will be difficult to break especially when Peyton extends the record

It's in the low 500s right now? I guarantee you in 20 years it'll be closer to 1,000. Anyone of Manning/Elway/Marino talent who comes into the game now on the right team can expect to throw 40+ TDs a year in perpetuity. Real football was starting to get near extinction around the turn of the century, and ceased entirely in the decade that followed. The only thing that will stop that record from being broken is if the "running QB" thing somehow keeps going, but I don't see that happening. Can you imagine, say, John Elway on the present-day/near-recent 49ers or Eagles? It wouldn't even be fair.

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[fansince'76]

It's in the low 500s right now? I guarantee you in 20 years it'll be closer to 1,000. Anyone of Manning/Elway/Marino talent who comes into the game now on the right team can expect to throw 40+ TDs a year in perpetuity. Real football was starting to get near extinction around the turn of the century, and ceased entirely in the decade that followed. The only thing that will stop that record from being broken is if the "running QB" thing somehow keeps going, but I don't see that happening. Can you imagine, say, John Elway on the present-day/near-recent 49ers or Eagles? It wouldn't even be fair.

Exactly. It's simply no big deal anymore. It's the same thing with the 5,000-yards-passing season. Marino was the only one who accomplished that for what, 26, 27 years? And now all of a sudden you have at least 2-3 QBs doing it every season. And it really means less when guys like Matthew Stafford are doing it. It's also the same reason that Unitas' 47-game streak with at least one TD pass from 1956-60 is and will always be far more impressive than Drew Brees finally breaking that mark in 2012.

If he stays healthy, Luck will probably pass Manning in about 5-6 fewer seasons. Book it. Hell, probably even sooner should the Broncos get back to the SB and Manning gets his ass handed to him again and the powers-that-be muck with the rules even more to further handcuff defenses to try and prevent it from happening in the future like this past offseason.

[steelreserve]

Exactly. It's simply no big deal anymore. It's the same thing with the 5,000-yards-passing season. Marino was the only one who accomplished that for what, 26, 27 years? And now all of a sudden you have at least 2-3 QBs doing it every season. And it really means less when guys like Matthew Stafford are doing it. It's also the same reason that Unitas' 47-game streak with at least one TD pass from 1956-60 is and will always be far more impressive than Drew Brees finally breaking that mark in 2012.

If he stays healthy, Luck will probably pass Manning in about 5-6 fewer seasons. Book it.

I don't know if Luck will be the guy to do it; he's good, but I don't see him as that kind of transcendent talent that comes along once in 10 or 20 years. People were super-excited because he was the most polished QB to come out of college in a long time (maybe since Manning), and he has so far lived up to that, but he hasn't blown me away. Oh, he'll definitely be challenging for all kinds of records - anyone who's a good QB will - but I don't know if he'll be "THE" guy in quite the same way. I have no doubt that someone will come along before long, though, and make the current record book look like it was scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin.


Hell, probably even sooner should the Broncos get back to the SB and Manning gets his ass handed to him again and the powers-that-be muck with the rules even more to further handcuff defenses to try and prevent it from happening in the future like this past offseason.

He doesn't even need to get to the Super Bowl. Remember the Peyton Manning/Brett Favre overtime rule?

Maybe if the league didn't have a commissioner that was quite such a joke, the meddling would stop. But it's pretty obvious that now and for the foreseeable future, ESPN and fantasy football essentially run the league.

Speaking of which, it's a shame that Goodell's 14th or 15th strategy shift on the Ray Rice situation seems to have gotten him out of hot water in the end. Looks like as soon as whatever high-powered PR firm they hired for damage control came in, the first thing they did was take Goodell aside and say "What the f*** are you doing? Just shut up! Have one more press conference where you announce you're appointing independent experts, smile and nod and say 'yes' to all the questions, then shut up for about a month and stop fucking with things! You just make it worse! Also try not to say much about other stuff in the meantime; it'll make people forget faster."

It says a lot that a bunch of marketing people seem to know more about how to run a football league than the alleged commissioner of it does.

[ALLD]

Nice record, but his brother is more clutch. Prove me wrong this year.

[fansince'76]

I don't know if Luck will be the guy to do it; he's good, but I don't see him as that kind of transcendent talent that comes along once in 10 or 20 years. People were super-excited because he was the most polished QB to come out of college in a long time (maybe since Manning), and he has so far lived up to that, but he hasn't blown me away. Oh, he'll definitely be challenging for all kinds of records - anyone who's a good QB will - but I don't know if he'll be "THE" guy in quite the same way. I have no doubt that someone will come along before long, though, and make the current record book look like it was scribbled on the back of a cocktail napkin.

That's just it, the rules have become so slanted toward the passing game and against defensive football that it doesn't take a transcendent talent to break passing records anymore (see my Matthew Stafford/5,000-yard season comment). And I certainly don't see that trend changing - if anything, it will just continue to get worse.


Speaking of which, it's a shame that Goodell's 14th or 15th strategy shift on the Ray Rice situation seems to have gotten him out of hot water in the end. Looks like as soon as whatever high-powered PR firm they hired for damage control came in, the first thing they did was take Goodell aside and say "What the f*** are you doing? Just shut up! Have one more press conference where you announce you're appointing independent experts, smile and nod and say 'yes' to all the questions, then shut up for about a month and stop fucking with things! You just make it worse! Also try not to say much about other stuff in the meantime; it'll make people forget faster."

It says a lot that a bunch of marketing people seem to know more about how to run a football league than the alleged commissioner of it does.

I think it also speaks to the short attention span of the general public how the Ray Rice scandal has "gone away."

[tube517]

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[zulater]

Nice record, but his brother is more clutch. Prove me wrong this year.

His brother's team's were less reliant on the qb than Peyton's teams.


Judging a qb strictly on SB wins is ridiculous. Terry Bradshaw was a much better qb in the early 80's than he was in 74 and 75, yet the Steelers didn't win a single playoff game his last seasons. Want a more recent example? Tom Brady wasn't half the qb would eventually become in 2001.2005-2013 Tom Brady would lap 2001 Brady. But 2001 Brady won the Super Bowl. Elway's another good example. John Elway while still great was well past his prime when he finally started winning Super Bowls. Just finally had a complete team. And you really think Phil Simms was more clutch than Dan Marino?

[st33lersguy]

His brother's team's were less reliant on the qb than Peyton's teams.


Judging a qb strictly on SB wins is ridiculous. Terry Bradshaw was a much better qb in the early 80's than he was in 74 and 75, yet the Steelers didn't win a single playoff game his last seasons. Want a more recent example? Tom Brady wasn't half the qb would eventually become in 2001.2005-2013 Tom Brady would lap 2001 Brady. But 2001 Brady won the Super Bowl. Elway's another good example. John Elway while still great was well past his prime when he finally started winning Super Bowls. Just finally had a complete team. And you really think Phil Simms was more clutch than Dan Marino?

Agreed. Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson have won more Superbowls than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton, and Warren Moon. Nuff said

[zulater]

Agreed. Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson have won more Superbowls than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Fran Tarkenton, and Warren Moon. Nuff said

Yep. And Eli, while a nice quarterback on his better days, isn't in the same category as Peyton. I saw a New York columnist try to make that claim prior to the start of the 2013 season. We saw how that worked out.

I think Peyton elevates teams above their true overall talent level and that's why they often fall short in the playoffs. I mean think about it, the guy's teams wins 11-14 games every single season! He goes out for a year and they qualify for the number 1 pick in the draft.

[st33lersguy]

Yep. And Eli, while a nice quarterback on his better days, isn't in the same category as Peyton. I saw a New York columnist try to make that claim prior to the start of the 2013 season. We saw how that worked out.

I think Peyton elevates teams above their true overall talent level and that's why they often fall short in the playoffs. I mean think about it, the guy's teams wins 11-14 games every single season! He goes out for a year and they qualify for the number 1 pick in the draft.

Yeah. He hasn't had a true no. 1 since Edgerrin James bolted to the dessert. His defenses overall have been shoddy throughout his career, O-line was an issue late in his tenure in Indy, and we have all seen Peyton artificially make his receivers look better than they really were. Look at all his current receivers. Only one of his Denver receivers were playing at at least an above average level, and that was Welker, who was a non-descript player before Brady

[Texasteel]

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Manning working on his pass rushing skills.

[venom]

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[zulater]

Manning working on his pass rushing skills.

I think he'd be our best pass rusher right now.